Instant Unhooking & Tunneling
I'm curious is anyone else noticing a massive uptick in survivors instantly unhooking, and the killers just turning around and tunneling the unhooked to death?
Like what is going on?
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I'm curious is anyone else noticing a massive uptick in survivors instantly unhooking, and the killers just turning around and tunneling the unhooked to death?
Like what is going on?
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I did something like that last night. Chased an Ash, hooked him and left. Heard the boom, while not in a chase, and went back. Found him bleeding in a locker, so hook again. Went back to patrolling gens, boom again. The poor guy hid in the same locker and I had to hook him again. Not to excuse tunneling, but I'm a simple player, I go where the sound is and if its the same person, I'm sorry but I got to play the game.
I have done something where I had a survivor unhook and escaped. I swear I kept running into them, even on the opposite end of the map and no one else, so for that moment I had sympathy, I picked them up and let them wiggle free for extra points and let them leave. I know how it feels to keep running into the killer and being the only one hurt or downed and everyone else just "gets by".
I don't play by the survivor rule book.
I mean, you don't have to think of it as the survivor rulebook, you can just do it because you want to
Play how you want ig
I actually have noticed that, from the killer perspective- not sure why the sudden uptick in survivors deciding to get their teammates killed, it's kind of a problem.
Granted, it's not too bad if the unhooker is still there to try and body block and take aggro, then it's more of a regular ballsy play instead of just a terrible decision.
Who cares? That wasn't even my question.
I have. While it's nice when the killer goes for the unhooker rather than me since I have no control over the situation, I understand why the killer would go after me instead. It sucks but I'm irked way more at my fellow survivor than I am at the killer
As killer, as long as the unhooked doesn't choose to get in my way, I'll go after the unhooker instead (though if you actively try to stop me with body blocking, I'm waiting out bt and putting you back up on that hook).
Exactly! Usually you see survs doing it a lot when they have Deli, but now it's just almost in every game...
Not sure if it's entirely related but we've noticed more killers hanging really close to the hooks lately as well. Might be the reason survivors are bumb rushing unhooks....or the other way around.
Well instantly unhooking means someone in the Killers face (not waiting for the Killer to leave after unhooking) just unhook right after hooking happend. In this case it is Unhookers fault and Killer can decide to punish the team (tunneling) for risky/stupid play that he can take advantage from. People shouldn't be suprised when this happends.
It's usually a function of survs descending on the hook. If you're a killer and a team has demonstrated that one or more of them will come to the hook almost immediately, you'd be an idiot to go far.
Rule #1 of avoiding camping/tunneling: give the killer a reason to leave the vicinity of the hook. It's the surv's responsibility to do this, not the killer's responsibility to run away from the hook just because.
If the killer refuses to leave regardless, that's scummy, and there's nothing you can do about it. But you have to at least give them the opportunity to leave.
Now I will almost always go for the unhooker rather than the unhooked (unless the uhooked body blocks with their BT, in which case they are getting an express ticket out of the game), but make no mistake: 9 times out of 10 going for quick unhooks is a survivor throw, simple as.
Survivors love to unhook their teammates right behind my back and then start vaulting repeatedly as I tunnel their wounded teammate.
Killers love to pretend they actually leave the hook when the reality is most of them just go far enough to entice people to go for the unhook and immediately rush /teleport back for the easy downs. Sadly this pathetic tactic results in majority of my actual hooks.
We're aware but we're just saying we think its a chicken and egg scenario. One did something and the other responded which caused the other too respond and so on.
Good job throwing some more shade on killers and making your overall stands on the bias scale clear.
But i think the topic is about unhooks with killer still in eyesight aka way too early and most probably some new player thinking that the baseline 10 sec but would be a freebie at a save unhook which it isn't.
public forum mate. You don't want people talking to you then don't post anything. Thats how forums work.
Killer taking advantage of a mistake a survivor made? how dare they?!!?
i mean if you expect your opponent to make it especcially easy for you pvp maybe is not your thing.
Woosh
seems like someone has an issiue with diffrent opinions dont you, buddy?
No, you just missed the point of my meme.
With basekit BT some survivors are getting very greedy as they pretty much get a guaranteed safe unhook if the survivor attempts to get away.
I personally prefer the punish the unhooker as the poor sod on the hook doesn't have much say in the situation and being tunnelled is not a nice experience
nah i didnt miss the point. I just disagree with it entirely.
It was supposed to be funny.
wow great... really funny.
Idk why survivors are instant unhooking. It just makes sense to punish the bad play by going after the unhooked.
Thank you, I spent approximately 3 minutes on it.
You need to stop wasting your time like that buddy.
No thank you. I quite like my meme and it seems other people do too :)
It's also common knowledge and forum rule to respond to the topic of discussion :) MATE.
This ^ to so many of the responds here....lmao, people are once again reading what they want to read instead of what's actually stated.
I don't know, I haven't played in a bit. Just sounds like how the killer should play though.Punish a bad unhook if they can.
Can hardly be called tunneling
its because everyone wants kindred basekit yet nobody bothers to actually run it. the lack of information excuse only goes so far compared to the allure of basekit BT, especially to newer players. Safe unhooking is extremely unintuitive by design, it has to be learned in a way the game doesn't naturally teach.
This was predicted the moment bhvr announced base kit buffed BT. Which is why i was against the idea, b/c survivors would just start rushing in for unsafe unhooks right near the killer.
Survivor's need to stop pretending people tunnel and camp as much as they do. I have been hard tunneled once in all of my survivor games since 6.1.0. It may happen to some people more frequently, but most of the time it happen I bet it's some terrible killer player who is just trying to squeeze out a kill.
In my experience, the amount of matches since 6.1.0 where the Killer hasn't tunneled or camped could be counted on my fingers.
So you are saying that every game you play the killer either camps for a good amount of time or tunnels someone from first hook until dead? That's just hard to believe. Maybe killers from 8pm to 4am are just built different.
how did you guess the times i exclusively play at lmao
I'm in your walls of course. Nah that's when I play.
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I'll give you a few reasons.
Like every other game as killer is either a sweaty TTV SWF or people stacking BNP with gen rush builds & popping 2 gens as you get your first hook.
If you try and play a non meta killer with average pressure and chase potential or run perk builds that are non meta then you get spam tbagged and survivors will wait at the gate to spam tbag you regardless if there only 2 of them left.
Survivors see a non meta build or killer as something to taunt opposed to something different they might have a fun game with.
This constant cycle basically causes a lot of killers to play dirty in every match with complete disregard to the survivors enjoyment or feelings.
It's so common now to play these types of games over and over that when a bunch of solo players that aren't toxic want to play for fun they basically get treated as if they're going to be one of the above mentioned type of team/player.
so edgy.
Is this what you think you sound like?
You unhook right after the killer walks away, they're gonna start coming back.
Yes
I think I can recall a very obnoxious Feng Min unhooking me right on top of the killer (we were at 4 gens not even late game) like the killer was standing 1m away.
Most of the times though they just wait for the killer to leave or maybe they cannot see the killer is close by still. Probably have also made the same mistake.
The most obnoxious tunneling I've witness has been a Nemy on Lerys. I was on death hook so I was careful to got for the save, so I made sure he was chasing Jane first which he was cause she got injured and went for the unhook, but what do you know. 5 seconds later he's already back, he was really determined I guess.
I don't play by any rulebook but BHVRs....but If I do run into the hooked survivor that just got unhooked I give them a free pass to escape....ONCE. but if I find them again then let's just say I love a pinata
I'm the same when I play killer, I try to go after the unhooker. But if I keep running across the same survivor because the others are ninjas, then I'm going to have a pang of regret but hook them because that's the game.
@ Mods Can this discussion be closed s.v.p.?
Why?
for the most part the meta today for killer is tunneling someone out, sadly thats the meta right now.