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@Rexis said:
The Clown has to refill his bottles
The Hag has to bend down and place a Trap
The Trapper has to bend down and place a Trap
Spirit has a cool down for phasing
Belly has a Cool down to chain saw
Bubba has a cool down to chain saw
Huntress has to refill hatchets
Doctor has to swap between Shock and Hit moods
Then comes our lovely Freddie, where he can place a hundred dream snares during a chase without slowing down, without having to refill, without having to aim "like clown" with absolutely no penalty!
So he can create illusions like Doctor or Slow you down with snares like clown, Teleport to any Gen worse than Nurse and he's got the biggest lunge attack than any other killer!
so instead of making survivors becoming oblivious, shouldnt you put a reason for him not to place a hundred snare during the chase other than to close down a loop!
Tier 3 myers has the longest lunge
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@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/781530#Comment_781530
Yes. I'm on console, so nurse is not really an issue there. So it's hard for me to say how big the impact is on her. Hopefully they don't mess with Spirits power as well.
Same and agreed
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@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/781489#Comment_781489
I've yet to have time to test the tells people say exist. So I can't speak to that. Yes, some people have called for flat out nerfs. But they are a small minority from what I've seen.
Remember when nurse was just addon changes?
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/781485#Comment_781485
People don't complain about spirit just because nurse got nerfed. Anyone can complain about anything. Survivors will complain about spirit just like killers complain about keys,ds etc.
Also, stop assuming every survivor is the same.
I'm referring to the most common reasoning I hear for why she should be. Not all survivors believe that's why she should be nerfed but that's a big reason I hear.
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@twistedmonkey said:
It happens with both sides. What they deem as strongest gets complained about and once that is changed they move onto the next thing that they blame for making them lose.
When I lose I just deem it as bad day or game, everyone has those games. But some people
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@thefallenloser said:
Well... there are some things about her that are pretty busted.
- Prayer Beads
- Mother-Daughter Ring
- she can bump into survivors which give her a free hit
That's all I've seen being complained about, which is actually pretty fair.
In my comment I said an addon rework was pretty reasonable not an overall "slight change"
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/781485#Comment_781485
Well, sounds like you just don't want the killer you play nerfed. reasonable enough. But everyone has to deal with all sorts of nerfs that severely affect their playstyles.
Why are you allowed to dictate what gets nerfed and what doesn't?
We can ask for nerfs for whatever we want. You can say this is entitlement, but your request to not nerf spirit is entitlement as well.
When did I dictate when nerfs happen? I said because nurse was nerfed doesnt mean spirit deserves one, I made the post because I'm tired of only seeing nerf spirit and never why, there multiple ways to know if Shes phasing, and survivors that just dc and say nerf are the people I was mainly targeting in that, In so many posts i see ideas for nerfs but they arent really thought through, if spirit had no collision during phase bodyblocking against her would be non existent because a survivor stayed too close in a loop a few times.
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Stream sniping because a person that just got off hook runs up to me and let's me down them so I dont pick them up, I only knew they had ds because I'm a sniper.
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@KillermainBTWm8 said:
Addon-change is all she needs in my opinion. She has plenty of signs of phasing if you know what to look for. Her add-ons just make her have no "counter play" that's my whole opinion on it. I may be a little bias'd due to maining her though who knows?
Her very rares should be upped in rarity or do less, the amulet and prayer beads specifically
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@thrawn3054 said:
Um pretty much the only thing that people have asked for is a look at her addons. The only other thing I've seen is a better tell tale that she's phasing. Personally I don't care if they touch her or not. At least be accurate in your complaint.
She has many tell tales when she's phasing btw, and as if late of seen alot of post asking for a flat nerf not an addon change, I support the addon change especially regarding her very rares.
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@Mochan said:
So you are saying Survivors don't have a right to complain about things. Fair enough.
Do note that Killers also do not have a right to complain about things. Please do not complain about keys, instaheals, Decisive Strike, Borrowed Time, Adrenaline, toolkits, palettes, windows, vaults, P3 Claudette, running the killer around, and doing gens.
I said quit complaining about spirit, never once did I say dont complain about anything, my point was to all the people that say "nurse got nerfed so spirit needs to as well" and personally I dont mind the meta perks themselves, I mind when survivors use them and call me unoriginal and lame for playing her. And as for keys, I think keys and moris should be changed as to not give easy kills or escapes with no skill or effort other than doing your objective and getting rewarded heavily because you put on an item.
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Same with me reading "Nerf spirit" "Spirit unbeatable"
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
Sooo Ya'll are bitching about people being able to leave..and you not getting the 4k?
Oh dear 3 people escaped through the hatch..Chances are they were probably gonna leave anyway..
The keys are fine..YOU as a KILLER arent DISCOURAGED to use moris but you can't just hook someone 1 time and still get a ######### ton of blood points.. You have to hook someone x amount of times then do the Mori to be able to get your blood points..but then again if you don't really care much about bloodpoints or pips but just tryin to end the game quick well there you go..With the new pipping system they did a bit a ago they made it so that the games had to last longer had to get so many hooks ect ect as killer..Not survivors fault that everyone bitched that the game was too easy to pip..
Secondly..LOL here we go with the KEYS ARE OP..well guess what sweetie..THERES A COUNTER TO ITEMS.. yeah I was mind blown as well..Its called Frankies Demise..Try it out sometime..When you M1 a survivor and they have an Item in their hand..it makes them drop it Gasps And I do it like this..Because of how killers have been in the passed about survivors saying anything..."Get Good" but I won't say that..Ill just actually tell you..theres a perk for it..THERE IS A COUNTER FOR EVERYTHING ...and if not everything then ALMOST everything..
They aren't gonna use Keys..They just "nerfed" insta heals..gotta give them some time there speed racer..LMFAO
Counter to spirit? Use iron will lmao
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/768979#Comment_768979
@xrem so if you don’t want perks to help with gen regression what do you expect perks to do? Help you chase and hook someone faster?
Some killers don’t even bring Ruin or Pop what does that say about them? They’re just lucky I guess?
I dont want to have to run perks to make the game playable, the people that use no ruin also tend to play top tiers
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I think her addons are what make her take no skill, try no addons spirit in rank 1 and tell me it's 2 ex no skill
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/768622#Comment_768622
@xRem All those killers who bring Ruin, PGTW, Thana,Dying Light say hi 👋.
You can’t base numbers purely on what’s written on paper. You have to take into consideration how many times you kicked that gen, how many times you slugged, how many times you regressed that gen, while also using other tools to accomplish a down and a hook.
I shouldn't have to use perks to fix broken gen speed #1 and number 2 your also forgetting to account for toolboxes and great skill checks, sure if I have 3 people slugged its going to be slow but the thing is that smart swfs split pressure so that I can't do that.
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This is what I would love to see more of, kind discussions and information sharing not just "GIT GUD"
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Rebalancing nurse took how long?
@GennyFromTheBlock said:
There's lots of killers that need buffs.
But there is one killer that has an obviously glaring issue that requires re-balance.
Stop asking for things that require more time than a simple rebalance to an OP killer.
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@arslaN said:
How about we do them both? Being broken isn't really any better than being weak imo.
I'd love to see both but spirit is one killer while I'd prefer to see more balance for everyone not just her.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
“Broken gen speed” lmao
It takes me 12-11 hooks to "win", each survivor can be left on hook for 45-50 seconds before it counts as 2. Gens bass take 80 seconds with no greats, if I get 6 hooks in 3 minutes I'm only half way done you could be almost 80 percent out if your being efficient, if that isn't broken than idk what it.
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Polar bear, I would agree but gen speeds need to be toned down, and swfs should have something done to be more fair to the killer. Unless your spirit or nurse it's not a good time.
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While I understand the argument for noed, saying adrenaline is a similar perk, I just don't think it is. you keep talking as if survival is solo like killer, as survivor you have to work as a team everyone is doing something. When you talk about what a survivor did you have to also take into account this is a team game, you can only see what one did. Even if a survivor did no gens, unless he was afk he was getting chased or saving and there are multiple objectives, but not at the start you as a killer need to give survivors the objective. Things like healing, saving are both things a killer can make survivors do, let's say you hook one person then chase another, 2 people aren't doing generators and a third has to save and probably heal the unhooked *im not talking about special situations im talking in a normal game* if you have ended the chase by the time they heal you have even more pressure. My point is killers have multiple forms to apply pressure, noed completely screwed this up, it gives the killer an instant down with potentially no chase because they didn't apply said pressure. Adrenaline is not a fair comparison as it rewards you with lightbringer points for generator completion while getting chased. The killer loses gate keeper points meaning they aren't doing their objective and noed rewards them for that failure, so it does need to change in some way. This is also a team game for survivor not the one on one you seem to believe it is.
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No swfs
No toolboxes
No keys
No unbreakable
No adrenaline
No doing gens until I have at least 4 hooks
No cleansing ruin
And dont complain when I use anything because your the toxic #########
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Spirit could due with some addon reworks, because some of them are ######### not prayer beads. I mean liem the amulet doing everything and only being purple, I'd like to see low tiers buffed rather than all high tiers nerfed Into oblivion.
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It was the feeling of my first 4 man, I played survivor and escaped and felt good about it, but that first 4 man was different sure I was in rank 20 but it meant something to me. I felt like I had outplayed 4 people rather than 1 and it was nice from then on I became a killer sided player and has since realized the imbalance when your not spirit or nurse and I love and hate it.
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Me and my friends tested this recently on xbox as of Oct 9th, I used the demogorgon new ultra rare in a custom game and teleported and me and me and him were starring at eachother and spine chilled wasn't lighting up.