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Ruin only ever gave issues to bad survivors I've seen ruin up and gens pop just the same with great or good survivors.
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@ProfessorDunwich said:
Wow, that is absolutely bogus. No wonder they want to conceal ranks. This game is headed down the same road as Deathgarden.
I honestly don't think they can fix matchmaking that's why they wanna hide it I think. But man I've had friends who play complain about this but seeing it is something else.
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This new player pandering with ruin won't mean anything with matchmaking like this lol
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@ChainsawCharlie said:
It's true actually. I've never seen a game consider "new players" this intensely when it comes to balance. Usually games are like "Yeah you're a noob, you're gonna have to learn and get better." League of Legends actually advertises this way. They state outright in their ads that as a noob you'll get your face stomped in.
Of course new players are gonna struggle with simple concepts. They're new! That's doesn't mean you need to dumb everything down for them and then leave red rank killers out to dry.
Also, the way Ruin is currently before the change, allows me to play a little nicer. Now at Rank 1 I'm gonna have to tunnel or proxy camp a lot more than before and maybe even bring more moris before they nerf those too. Which is something I'm sure they didn't even consider. This new Ruin does absolutely nothing for killers that require set-up time like Trapper and Myers. This Ruin nerf is an indirect nerf to half the killer roster because most killers have bad mobility.
Games like dota its literally git gud they don't cater and that game has a huge obviously not the same genre but still. Or even a from software game like Sekiro or Bloodborne you get destroyed in those games but the dev respects player skill enough to not dumb down their game. Honestly with the ruin nerf reasoning its clear bhvr doesn't like the term git gud or even any kind of remotely challenging gameplay. The Last Year devs actually say git gud but bhvr nope we will dumd down those silly skill checks less hard than a Bloodborne boss :P
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No thats what makes the ruin nerf/change overall very bad but ruin was a band aid for a fix as the issue of gen times won't be addressed.
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@johnmwarner said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/988935#Comment_988935
You aren’t wrong, I haven’t played killer much in a while and I’ve been testing out new killers, weaker killers and weird builds so I’m hovering near 10-12.
When I get matched up against Ranks 4-6 it’s actually a pretty fair game... but when I get matched the other way against 11-15 woe I feel bad like meerkat every game is 4K five gen even without ruin.
Ruins nerf was ment to help new players but this matchmaking will punish new players worse than old ruin. It won’t matter if you don’t have to hit skill checks if you are getting destroyed by capable killers.
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Is this why they are hiding ranks?
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Ruins nerf might not kill dbd all the way but this matchmaking might.
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The ruin nerf wouldn’t be so devastating if maps were smaller and better designed.
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Wow thats amongst the worst matchmaking I've seen.
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@Liruliniel said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/988861#Comment_988861
Spirit, Billy, Huntress, Feddy, Hag, Trapper, Plague, and Pig are the biggest ones I can see still being viable.
Plague and Pig may seem questionable, but it's because there ability helps to a degree. Plague effectively cuts every chase in half after a little bit. While Pig has some form of slow down. While its not the greatest having it at base does help.
If map design wasn't so garbage and rng I would agree.
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@Liruliniel said:
It's because they no longer need Killers. The Killer Bot AI is finally finished. It explains why they wanted the 50/50 Change too.
They should just as well have AI after this nerf lol the changes will destroy killers without map pressure limiting viability even more.
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@YaiPa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/988094#Comment_988094
The fact is that in order to have success, last year is doing everything dbd stated won't do. In fact we have monstrous killers, gory kills and they're planning to add a new priest-like killer, some religious related killer we probably won't have in dbd.
The spider has the best kills one she rips the head off a student.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2X_mS148gA -
@ggezbaby said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/986321#Comment_986321
Never said it’s bad to slug. I slug in early game all the time. We’re addressing a situation of having 3 survivors slugged at the beginning of the game. Which yes, is pretty ridiculous.
The survivors allowed themselves to get slugged by being bad
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Get ready for long wait times and sweaty killers because that is what is gonna happen.
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If a survivor can loop well I'm generally impressed however bhvr isn't pandering to skilled survivors but the bad ones.
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We are truly in the beginning of DBD's end days if slugging early is a bad thing. Slugging is bad,ruin is being nerfed and Mathieu Cote can't hit those darn skill checks.
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@ggezbaby said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/986258#Comment_986258
Slugging is fine. Especially with new ruin, I understand. But slugging 3 people? In first minute? Literally no reason to do that.
killers job is killing its not being the survivors friend but the devs wanna baby survivors.
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@ggezbaby said:
Coming from a killer main, maybe try not slugging the whole team in the first minute. I don’t blame them for disconnecting.
Slugging will become a very common occurrence once this ruin change goes through
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@Xerge said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/985875#Comment_985875
Okay. It would've been better if he took a break for a week and play led something else instead of screwing over 80% of the red ranks.
Ruin was clearly op lol
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@12powak said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/985875#Comment_985875
just look, everyone surfing with urban evasion + toolbox + addons and anyone finding hex ruin?? and more... nobody practices for the skill checks?
Skill checks are op clearly as Mathieu can't hit one for anything and complains about it.
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So ruin is getting nerfed because potatoes and bhvr's rank changes will destroy new players. Also A friend sent me this....https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/emdlp8/why_is_ruin_getting_nerfed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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@Colton147 said:
I don't use Ruin on Clown and I frequently tend to get 3-4ks.
Given matchmaking not exactly shocking
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How is making killers play even more sweaty good for new players? That's why this ruin nerf makes no sense they try and fix a issue with player retention but causing killers to drop all sense of being fun will drive away new players.
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Again the post would make sense if matchmaking wasn't complete trash right now and rank ment something.
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@oxygen said:
All that post says is that if someone consistently depips in any given rank, they'll do so until they end up in a rank where they black pip/pip enough to stay there. That's sort of the entire point of a ranking system, it's not supposed to just be a climb to the top ranks and then staying there.
But ranking is busted it would make logical sense if ranking wasn’t complete trash and matching wasn’t busted.
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I made it because they say derank if you aren’t good enough. Survivor is pretty easy yet they say derank if you can’t do good enough. But ranking is busted so it makes no sense at all to derank if you will just get matched with low and high rank killers.
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Honestly I thought the patch notes were insulting but even the devs forum posts are degrading.
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I figure if the devs are going this route we will just play very dirty and unfun.
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You know I might reinstall DBD just so I can use all my iridescent hatchets and mori’s😃 Im sure new survivors would love that intro into the game 😃
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@DeadArsenal said:
There will be no enjoyment now, only ruthless meta.
We should just say DBD is going into end times because the ruthless tactics will drive away new players. But again bhvrs own doing for causing the catalyst of killers being ruthless.
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Well after reading their comments it’s clear they are biased. And are detached from the DBD community at large.
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New ruin is a wasted perk slot then if gens are popping extremely fast.
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I would say yes sure the player base is small but it’s fun. And it has a giant spider which bhvr will never do
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The bomb has gone off already they have made their choices already.
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@DeadArsenal said:
There are plenty of people offering input that understand both sides quite well. By the sound of things you're ignoring them in favor of a strawman you constructed. The new meta will be merciless and the only possible good this change could do is show BHVR exactly how busted the early game is.
No mercy and no quarter will be given for survivors I think this will kill the game but it will be in a flood of op add on's and mori's.
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@Zagrid said:
All the people complaining about the changes have already left the game.
That and the ruin nerf will drive away even more killers and even new players because brutal tactics will be common place.
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/977547#Comment_977547
I guess to look for bugs/game breaking issues?
I mean it will break the game its just not a bug which they will miss anyway because bhvr.
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PTB is pointless and they decided they should just make it live if that's how it is gonna be.
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No they had their minds made up already
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Whats the point of the PTB then?
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@Xerge said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/977458#Comment_977458
it also requires little effort from the killer and it's frustrating for survirors who want to do the gens as fast as possible. It will need to get nerfed to make the game more fun and less frustrating.
Ironically bhvr insulted survivors with the ruin patch notes and it looks like they have their mind made up already.
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@ProfessorDunwich said:
Hmmm. I don't see any direct mention of survivors having fun. Irrelevant post.
I expect both sides to bring out their most toxic stuff honestly
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No the nerfing of ruin will drive many,many killers away because it shows how out of touch the devs are.
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Enjoy 30-40 minute survivor ques and eventually long killer ques then and eventually hour plus wait times. This will kill the game which wasn't growing already
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No its not the best but it slowed the game down if only for a very brief time.
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I believe DBD had low player counts when it started
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@Mc_Harty said:
I'm not playing a multiplayer game that barely has 300 players, stop advertising it on the forums.
You think DBD had 20k players when it started out lol. Also that number is active profiles not all hidden profiles
