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@Deathstroke said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708958#Comment_3708958
Improvements to survivor should be done to help better coordination it would especially help soloQ. We should see other survivors perks in match and I think all survivor should see the basekit antimechanic progress. Many has suggested basekit kindred with only seeing the other survivors aura as well. Swf already can communicate all that information so it would be very minor buff for them. Maybe even killers could get buffs then if kill rates would go bit down and that would nerf mostly swf.
Great ideas. These have my full support.
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Game looks so spooky. I love it!
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Nurse and Blights powers at the basekit are not healthy for the overall game balance and should be changed.
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@Firellius said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708955#Comment_3708955
Haven't played yet. I'm on vacation.
Enjoy it. The game is on fire right now.
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@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708988#Comment_3708988
not about bring stronger stuff, it is about not having any counter-play towards the perk. you have to play less efficiently as killer or get punished by 4th hook-states. Playing a strong killer is legit only counter-play towards decisive strike because your factoring in the 4th chase as a given. With other killer where their chase is terrible, it is a lose/lose.
Im doing fine on Pig and Sadako. Isnt that bad for me.
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@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708909#Comment_3708909
that's barely a counter. I am wasting time vs decisive strike survivor while the survivor is acquiring generator progression. The second chance meta for survivor is borderline oppressive due to this decisive strike change.
Then the slowdown-meta and this one have something in common.
Who wins in DBD right now is mostly up to who brings the stronger stuff. Its sad to see.
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@IHSGames said:
Now this might seem like a crazy post to say. "SURVIVOR MAIN!" you shout. And yes I am. (Sadly because survivor is the only role where I have 75% of the perks but anyways) I mean it when I say that killers are too strong. RECENT killers are too strong. Now they might have some decent counterplay but when it comes to their arsenal, especially compared to earlier killers, they are just too strong compared to what survivors have in theirs. Power creep essentially.
Let's take a look at one of the most loved killers in the game, Huntress. Her power? Throw Hatchet. That's it. But the versatility of her power (throw hatchet) is what makes her even viable in today's games despite her releasing YEARS ago. Let's look the most recent killer, unknown. He's a pretty decent and fair killer…sometimes. But nonetheless, fair.
It can shoot essentially a pink glorp bomb like a grenade launcher that can shoot over loops and explode with AOE splash damage. This glorp bomb can also bounce off walls. It also leaves random versions of itself it can teleport too. It has Anti-loop so it'll be hard to loop. It can deal splash damage so even if you loop you can't hug walls. If you try to evade it's bomb it can shoot it towards a wall to bounce off and get you regardless. It can also teleport so it has map traversal. You see my point? Compared to Huntress, who is comparison a pistol, Unknown is like a grenade launcher, and many of them scattered randomly in the battlefield that it can fly to on a helicopter at fast speeds anytime. Now Unknown is more fair than the other I shall name to further my point.
Let's take a look at Xeno. She has a tunnel system, 2 modes, one giving her a tail with little to no windup time, which she can also fake her tailwhip and not be severely punished if she misses and even then, she can ALSO instantly M1 too, which the very same mode can only be stopped by flamethrowers which also do little to nothing as she can swat them away with her tail in no time. Those very same Flamethrowers can only be received near those same tunnels. Once you get those flamethrowers, it slows you down. And even then, they only are useful if near a loop, which takes even more time to set. So, Xeno has map traversal via tunnels, anti-loop via her tail which you cann't outplay due to little wind-up time to dodge which she can also just M1 instantly and slowdown via the flamethrowers which is kinda the only counterplay.
You see what I mean? With older killers their powers were mode simple but effective, meaning most killers will have to make up for what they lack in skill, knowledge and/or perks meaning there's room for many strategies and gameplay styles. But now killers have anti-loop, slowdown, map traversal, stealth or any sort of combination all in 1 kit, no add-ons. I understand that being a killer is hard having to make up for what you lack, but thats what made killers fair but also really skillful. Now killers have everything in their kit that as a survivor, theres no room for error when facing them besides their won knowledge and skill which is a gamble of in itself.
Survivors have also been receiving lackluster perks and horrible map/pallet/loop designs to even run these killers. It's like being in an empty battlefield with nothing but a knife but your enemy has cover along with loads of weapons. What can I do besides lose?
If the game is becoming alot more hard for killers, they should make up for it in base game changes, not making killers strong in every aspect to make up for the lack of strength they have. Power Creep is never good…
Not a bad take. Survivor definitely is in need of some improvements.
Newer killers propably have complex and sometimes overloaded powers due to the game having evolved so much and the devs trying new stuff. They also recieve feedback, that a good killer has to have:
- good map mobility
- chase power
- some form of gimmick
Look at all the recently released killers. Almost all of them follow this trend.
Where I disagree however is, that older killer designs where a lot more simple. Freddy, Pig and Doctor have very complex and confusing powers when they released.
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@Firellius how is your experience? Did the DS buff change your survivor games?
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@devoutartist said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708702#Comment_3708702
ouch you got your fair share, altough floating trapper trap making survivors jump when the try to dissarm is a funny one. if you even go on gideon meat plant you have my condolences lmfao. the giant vault tube you can get stuck on the far side of it when the vaults decide to get weird when fast vaulting
Nice…
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@devoutartist said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708637#Comment_3708637
yeah this patch is so rough T.T how about you did you experience anything game breaking so far ?
Floating trapper traps. That was fun…
Otherwise…
- Twins
- Potential energy
- rubberbanding
- weird vaults
- Sadakos purple addon vcr effecting turned off tv´s
These are just some… There are a lot more.
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@devoutartist said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707798#Comment_3707798
i got a new one for you skull merchant has a bug where you can't unhook the hooked surv sometimes(seems to be on 2nd stage hook) add it to the list just was on the receive end of it 2 games in a row
My condolences.
Honestly, what isnt broken right now?
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@Nun_So_Vile said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708549#Comment_3708549
I appreciate the kind words lol.
"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts." - Shakespeare
T🐽T🤘
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@Nun_So_Vile said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707985#Comment_3707985
Ayeee congratz.
I'm hoping to retire by the time I hit 3k. I consider that longer than I ever imagined i'd be around for on the forums.
And it's not even a year.
Dbd is like a film (while we are at the topics of film right now). I'm curious how the the final act will play out. Until then, I'm here for lil Piggy. She needs all the support she can get in this BOOP-less society.
You can't stop at 3k. We need you!
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@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708274#Comment_3708274
It doesn't.
All it does is give players a terrible experience where they get no points and don't get to play the game at all.
It's unbalanced, unpleasant and teaches some bad Killer habits that will usually bite them in the ass later.
Agree! Hard tunneling creates a very stale experience for all players involved. 3 survivors will just do gens, therefore will not interact with the killer and dont take part in the chase apsect of the game. One survivor will only get chased, therefore having no dwontime on gens, doing totems or doing cooperative actions. They also miss out on a huge part of the experience. The killer will loose gens at a fast pace due to them not caring one bit about their macro-gameplay.
Dont get me wrong, tunneling is SOMETIMES a necessary evil if survivors become too efficient. See my previous post about hitting the limitations of a character. But tunneling at 5-3 gens remaining is just completely unnecessary.
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@ember__lol said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3708257#Comment_3708257
Elaborate on why please.
If forces players get better. May it be annoying rn? Yes, in a month or two players will be good enough to where it won't be a problem, then next time we get a huge influx of players it'll happen again.
Tunneling has been in the game since it release. In your logic, the players should get better very fast, then a new wave of new players joins and gets the tunneling-training. This is not how it works and doesnt even take the amssive inconsistencies between killers into account. A Wesker that is hard tunneling will undeniably just get the down at some point because the survivor will get hindered. A skull merchant will eventually get a down due to her power giving haste and hindered. A Nurse has next to no conterplay if she hits her blinks on point.
Sometimes there is no getting good.
This is something that I get to see a lot when playing Pig. People just tell me to get good after some games that didnt go too well. Then im analyzing my games and I see that I simply hit the limitations of the killer. Survivors pre dropped pallets and delayed my first down for so long that I wasnt able to dish out traps. This often results in a loss for the Pig.
DBD is a massively unbalanced game due to the vairety of maps, killers, addons, items, offerings and now sadly skins as well (looking at you Huntress). Just telling people to get good, when they literally could not have done any better is not right.
Sure, against many killers on many maps, a survivor will be able to delay a down a lot more and hard tunneling will make that survivor be more accustom to being in chase but dont you think that there should be a similar amount of chase time for all survivors in a trial? Tunneling one survivor in an attempt to make them "better at chasing" results in all other survivors having the time of their lifes sitting on gens for several minutes straight. This results in a boring matchj for 3 out of 5 people. Games are supposed to be fun. This is not it.
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@ChaosWam said:
At this point I say fair game
Decisive buff, no change to OTR, no change to BU+FTP, no change to Background Player and Flashbang going through walls. And survivors expect killers to adhere to a rulebook. I play both sides and I don't even care if I get tunneled as survivor, I completely understand it.
I think there are extremes that are not tolerable. One of them being a nurse with quad slowdown that has the fun idea to get someone out at 5 gens because "they could have still genrushed her", despite the team taking 2 minutes to get the first gen done. One could say, that the survivors where not good and deserved to loose there. Sure. Thats one viewpoint. On the other end, one has to see that this is a game. Games are consumer products. If a game sint fun for the players anymore, they will just go and play something else. This is obviously not good for the game overall.
(Luckily) Not every team is running these perks, therefore not every team should get the whip. I usually play according to the team im facing. If i see, that they want to go hardcore, Im going hardcore. If i see that they are chill or not as good, I try to play really chill and create a fun experience for everyone.
I think this is a healthy way to approach the game.
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I would not outright remove her lullaby. I would create addons that can change the lullaby in many ways.
- Purple addon: reverses the lullaby radius. The closer Sadako gets, the quieter the lullaby gets. Otherwise the lullaby is map wide.
- Yellow addon: massively reduces the lullaby to 6m.
The lullaby is alright, its just not really thought through. You CAN sneak up on survivors. Even on good ones.
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Im a simple man:
- Saw 2
- Ringu
- Alien
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Its not that important, but this is my 3.000th post. Just wanted to say that its an honour to be here with you guys.
#Pigrules
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@HexHuntressThighs said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707980#Comment_3707980
No, if I remember right in a video they said the deep rift will stay exclusive. I’m not sure where the video is but that’s why at the bottom it says stay tuned for more info.
Then this part is 100% fomo… Just like many of the charms, banners and badges.
Just recently there was this Huntress voxel charm that still has my blood boiling.
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@HexHuntressThighs said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707954#Comment_3707954
Right here in the FAQ it says most cosmetics from the rift will come to the store after a period of 6 months.
Does this include the deep rift though?
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@HexHuntressThighs said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707935#Comment_3707935
The devs said that but I’m not sure that’s true anymore. They said they would come to the store a year after being in the rift and yet it’s been a year and a half since Huntress’s night owl skin has been in the rift and it’s still not in the shop. And I think it’s been two years since her Apex Ursine skin has been in the rift and it’s not in the shop either. So I wouldn’t be getting your hopes up lol.
In tome 4, there was a "seifuku (red)" cosmetic for the spirit. Still in limbo as of right now. I would love to get this skin. Its now been almost 4 years since this rift released and im losing hope for it ever making it into the shop.
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@Nazzzak said:
They're aware. I saw a post on social media from the devs acknowledging it and saying its being looked into. I havent checked the Bugs section but it'll probably be marked in there as being under investigation
I cannot for the life of me understand how RPD is disabled but potential energy isn't. What I mean by that is: why aren't both killswitched. Both are a problem. Is it that hard to killswitch something?
I know this is not related to the lag issues, but with that many things broken right now, the best solution is probably to disable it.
This update should have gone through multiple hoops before going live.
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@Pulsar said:
Pretty sure Jill's thumbs are broken too
It looks horrible. Try giving her a med kit in the lobby. Her fingers bend like playdough.
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Well….
According to some players, the ds buff was the saviour the game needed. Just pay for the perk like good little sheep and stun the killer for 5 seconds.
Shouldnt everything be fine now?
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@devoutartist said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707236#Comment_3707236
ah but young apprentice you've only seen what pouring outside the box just you wait when you see "THE INSIDE"
👁️🐽👁️
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Another problem to add to the list…
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@devoutartist said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707073#Comment_3707073
knight has ben broken for 7 month there a verry underground glitch that only a handful of players know not gonna say how to do it but umm he can teleport at will around the map i've reported that ######### he never got killed switch lmfao it's a major gamebreaking bug he still has it btw
wesker also has a teleporting bug but his is more restrictive anyways there why more bugs that most players don't even know because there's verry few players that knows them
the only reason i know them is because i got farmed by them and had a friend in custom lobby trying to recreate it and i found how to do a couple of em
@Batusalen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707073#Comment_3707073
Vaulting as killer from high places. I don't know if it is because all the rubberbanding or what, but the times I vaulted from high distances the killer stop in the air for half a second after vaulting and then graciously falls to the floor, making it to at least feel slow.
@Marioneo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707073#Comment_3707073
balanced landing, Twins, Servers in general
@supersonic853 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707073#Comment_3707073
The basement has a epilepsy issue. Lol. Twins exist.
I feel like I opened pandora´s box…
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Thats what the change to a new engine does to mankind.
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Let's make a list of all things that need to be killswitched.
- Potential energy
- Rpd
What else is broken?
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@Mooks said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3681958#Comment_3681958
I wouldn’t uninstall over something like this as it’s completely optional and not gameplay related
BUT it certainly does leave a bitter taste behind and it’s not the first time..
Could we just stop with all the fomo stuff?!?
I find it hilarious, that things like this are acceptable but a P100 reward is too much to ask for.
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@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3706783#Comment_3706783
Engine fix? 😅
Gotta check this out.
EDIT: You're right, it isn't sticking to her thighs anymore, kinda flysheet around in the wind 😅
Is kinda fluttery now... 🤣
I love it ♥️🐽♥️
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GUYS!!! They fixed something with Mandy!!!
Please take a look at the body piece of the Amandas rebirth outfit. I heavily disliked the outfit before because the robe kind of clinged to her legs if you know what i mean. This made the robe look all wrong to me. But somehow they fixed the physics and now the robe works like, well, a normal robe!
If only the breatrap in her hand would return now…
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Its beyond me why potential energy isnt killswitched yet. This is not acceptable in the slightest.
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@sukre1 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3706568#Comment_3706568
I have and that's why I haven't been missing it. I have near all killers prestige and there is no value in DBD for it to be different. If you like it more power to you. Tekken 8, ff7 rebirth, days gone and soon stellarblade have my attention. I have no intentions for generators ever again .
Sound like a great selection. I think dbd can be a lot of fun if:
- your new.
- your not burned out.
- you do not care one bit about the other human beings that play this game (jerk-version of dbd).
- you care about the human beings that play this game and ignore the bad apples.
Good luck with the games. Maybe stop by and tell us how they are :)
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@katoptris said:
Im still running it on the pig lol.
Leave this room. NOW!
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@Mandy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3706496#Comment_3706496
To combat the most egregious cases of facecamping where it was next to impossible to get an unhook, that's why the meter has a distance requirement to it, as unhooks can be made if the killer is camping at a distance, if killer is hitting a survivor on the hook for example, they're clearly too close and will trigger the antifacecamp meter.
I actually don't think the wording is that vague on our communications, but thank you for the feedback on it - our intention is of course to be as clear as possible and given the name of the feature includes the word facecamp in it and a distance requirement, it does appear, to me at least, to be very clear in intention.
Thank you very much.
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@Halloulle said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3706455#Comment_3706455
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3706442#Comment_3706442
There is no amount of reading between the lines needed… you just need to find the premise the devs outline and then the intention. The premise is this one:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/BDJ1PFS14LHH/grafik.png
This includes all instances of camping where the killer is "nearby". Whatever exactly "nearby" means. - But fret not, we don't just have the premise - we also have the explicitly stated intention:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/8COGQ1KFBCMW/grafik.png
Again, we don't know what exactly "egregious" or "too close" in this context means - but given how the same sentence (!) continues, we don't need to, since the intended outcome is stated clearly: survivors - remember the premise: survivors that are not the most coordinated of teams - are supposed to have an actual chance to rescue a fellow survivor. - Which is simply not the case with the mechanic as it is in place. It doesn't matter for a Bubba or a Billy or a Huntress - or any other killer who really makes it their mission to camp out that hook - if they are 1m away from the hook or 10m.
That being said: I don't think it's possible to design a mechanic that achieves what they intend it to achieve without either being very abusable by survs or fundamentally redesigning how hooking/unhooking works.Which is why I say they should just've called it "anti BM on hook"-mechanic, boot the premise and the intention and that's that.
Edit: tbh, what bugs me the most about this is not how the mechanic turned out - but how bhvr really has a knack for messing up their communication and expectation management. It happens so often that via the way the word things or the statements they make and without giving any actual details/say what exactly they mean/how exactly they define things, there's too much room for interpretation - interpretations that are not reigned in, even if they get widely popular. This makes it effectively impossible to avoid disappointing, and eventually alienating at least a chunk of the playerbase. And it is so avoidable by just thinking a lil bit longer about what you want to say. #rant end. Sorry.
Anyway, that being said: if in doubt agree to disagree. Didn't really intend to derail the topic and make it about rhetoric and semantics.You stated your point really well. I have no other choice but to agree. The wording is really vague. Due to how the mechanic got implemented, I always seen it as a means to tackle real face camping, at which the mechanic does succeed.
I also agree, that combating camping as a whole has often no real solution without being heavily abusable.
I would love to have a statement from the devs here. What was the specific intention of the mechanic. To combat FACE-camping or camping in general?
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3rd party sofware, not intended because not in the game. Easy. Cheating.
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@Aberemand said:
im really hoping charms like the blood moon and nectar vial charms will be available for purchase at some point
Im also really curious about this one. Are charms for the bundle selected at random, random out of a selected bunch or selected without being random at all?
Are event charms eventually showing up as well?
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@drsoontm said:
That's expected?
Seriously, that's a bad surprise when you enter a match and you can't move.
True. I wanted to use my flashlight, just for me to start crouching in front of the killer. Led to a hilarious moment of silence though.
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@Halloulle said:
I always find it funny how people get hung up on the "face" part and repeat that part like a broken record - and even cite some of the relevant dev posts… just not all relevant passages.
Let me ask you this: What was the devs' reason to implement that mechanic? What is its stated purpose?
It was to deal with frustrations and feeling powerless on the survivor side; make survivors have agency in a situation where they don't have it.
Question: Does this mechanic achieve this?
Answer: No. Just being able to take an action isn't the same as having agency. - If it was all about "being able to take some action while hanging around" nothing was needed: there's 4% and there are skill checks. Between getting camped at 0.5 meters distance and at 5-12 meters distance and getting downed ten seconds after the unhook is no effective difference.
As it is now it's an anti-BM-on-hook-mechanic. Which would be perfectly fine… if they actually said that this was the intended purpose.
The intention was simple. To stop the "most egregious cases of camping" called face-camping. You are reading too much into it.
It is supposed to help a survivor when the killer does literally just standing next to the hook.
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@Venusa said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3705959#Comment_3705959
I vaulted the same window 3 times and I still didn't make it to the other side.😭
Schrödinger´s vault is back.
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@Peanits said:
If you're okay with it, please let us know which platform you play on and (if on PC) what the specs of your system are. This update shouldn't have an impact on performance, but we'd be happy to take a closer look.
Vaulting as killer leads to what I can only describe as rubberbanding (you propably know what im talking about).
Im on a completely new PC that I just built in January.
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Actually agree. Survivors usually let go of gens after you hook, so bbq never works to do this quest. You have to use maybe discordance and then try to crow them mid chase when they dont expect to get crow´d on.
This however leads to no power in chase…
6 times is a bit much.
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/411630/so-much-for-anti-camp-system
I'm going to post the same thing i do every time someone makes one of these threads.
The mechanic is not called "Anti Camp" It is "Anti FACE camp" It is designed specifically to stop face camping. I.E. this:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/SN5A21RSIHLP/image.png
For "Proof" of this, simply read the patch notes of that patch:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/413-7-3-0-mid-chapter
Specifically THIS section here that is literally titled Anti FACE-CAMP Feature:
Thank god your here.
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@ad19970 said:
I feel like the argument that solo q always gets hit harder is being used for any change nowadays that is bad for survivor.
However, I do agree that the nerf to Adrenaline was very unnecessary.
It is sad, that soloq is the unwanted victim in all nerfs to survivor. Killer has a ton of different characters, so nerfing one isnt that bad to the overall role. Survivor is one character with different skins. The only difference is how many people join a lobby together.
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@kare said:
I have 200 hours, which is nothing compared to others, I'm aware, and that's the source of my question 😅
I'm too good to go against new players, so it's a mind numbing 4k into a mind numbing 4k when matchmaking puts me against them.
And I'm nowhere near good enough for often toxic swf's so by the time I get 1 or 2 hooks they'll have all the gens done.
How do you have fun playing this game? There's never a fair match and it always feels extremely one sided, and I don't see a way for me to actually get the hundreds of hours I need to become intermediate at the game without developing high blood pressure…
Stop caring about kills. Care about the match.
Play a killer that you enjoy. Try learning new techniques and tricks. Find cool perks synergies and not just what your local content creator uses 24/7.
And best of all: play both roles to get a better grasp of the game overall.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3706244#Comment_3706244
That little rainbow bird has been a mainstay ever since it dropped lol
Im addicted to Gnome Chompski