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@Bonquiqui414 said:
Considering how good wraith is right now and this add on gives no negatives like scratched mirror Myers and Amanda’s letter piggy, I don’t think it should be this strong with zero drawbacks. You can’t even play immersed if you’re bad at looping when he can just walk around the map at Mach speed and easily find survivors trying to hide. You can use it at a survivor camping a pallet and you’ll be at a huge advantage since you can read their every move. Anyone else feel the same?
Wraith is still weak against good survivors my guy..
It's hands down only to help Wraith to counter the Immersed survivors that blend perfectly in the Grass.
All it boils down to is to just keep practicing looping and you'll see how bad Wraith is,
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@Boss said:
Wow, i'm glad to see you enjoy facing my boi this much.
Hope that i can grant you a nice and very thrilling match one day! 😉
Your boi rings his bell too much.
I can't shake the Bing and thre Bong out of my head now,
It's stuck in my mind like the Huntress's lullaby...
Curse you >=I
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@Mandy said:
I might be a tad too excited for today!
Let me know what you'd love to see in the Anniversary Stream that's in 6hrs 25 minutes. And what has been your best memory from DbD over the last 5 years.
My Best Memory?
MMMMMMMMMM.....
Discovering alot of places slinger can shoot through and use those against people. Still the best feeling
But it's 100%. Hitting a Hatchet Across the Map with Bbq or Bitter, Best memory ever, =D
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Nice
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@Nathan13 said:
I switch it out sometimes but here's what I run mostly.
BBQ,discordance,ruin,NOED
And I know a lot of y'all hate noed so please don't make fun of me for running it lol I just want some ideas. thanks!!
Distressing, Ruin. Sloppy. bbq is a good build,
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2188839#Comment_2188839
its impossible to turn beyond 90 degrees btw
Not with how that blight in the vid was shown.
He did a full 360 in a rush which is also possible now apparently..
Even im shocked as to how this was found,
https://streamable.com/q6j0d1 is your proof btw,
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
sure
https://twitter.com/spk1337/status/1392940186737250305?s=20
completely dead
(this is not my twitter account)
That's due to a Script.
Not a mouse dpi..
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@PassarinoT said:
Now I'm not saying the use of these perks is bad, but why do the devs think that putting a perk in a game that doubles the gain of points seem okay. It's almost like they know the grind is horrible and want to alleviate it with a perk.
While I don't mind running them, I wish that it was less necessary in my head? The main reason I play anymore is to level characters, so of course I run it. But it seems so odd that if you don't run these perks, you could be getting 50% the amount of bloodpoints in a match.
It just seems oddly drastic and like a bad band-aid for a grindy progression system.
Personally, I think that either the grind should be reduced or bloodpoint gain should be higher, and that BBQ/WGLF's BP bonus should be reduced to ~25%.
I know this sounds ridiculous but think about it, if High BP by default/Lower BP boost was the norm, you would be gaining a lot more when not running those perks and gaining a similar amount when running those perks by comparison to now.
I wouldn't consider running neither then
why would i get punished for running a perk that gives Bonus BP,
that's just bad game design all round
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@Zayn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2185872#Comment_2185872
This and you can play Wraith with the pallet breaking addon.
The Ultimate Battle Born Wraith, =D
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@miketheratguy said:
I understand that the policy here is not to "name and shame" and I understand why. I also understand that claiming that a person did something wrong is sometimes subjective and abused. But if we have actual, irrefutable video evidence of a survivor working with the killer (in my opinion the most pathetic, wretched type of player in the DBD community), is it still bad to name them? I mean if we had a thread to post the videos in, would that not help to embarrass and possibly curb their antics?
I was just in a game with someone who made 1 survivor DC within the first couple of minutes but I couldn't see why. Then it came down to me and 1 other survivor. The survivor led the killer to me, the killer strangely favored me even though he could have hit the other guy (who seemed to be bodyblocking my attempt to run away) and then, lo and behold, once I was downed the survivor ran up and teabagged all over me. I was hooked, more teabagging, pointing, etc. I was then "rescued", down again, rinse wash repeat, and the killer at one point downed the other guy (obviously just point farming) then sat there spinning around with him on his shoulder waiting for me to die. EDIT: Nice, lots of "ha"s in the end game chat as well.
If I still can't name these people or show the video, so be it. I just think that in cases like this a simple "report" isn't enough.
Just like how we can't Name and Shame Hackers.
Nor witchhunt their accounts so we can just Mass Report em..
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@Mister_xD said:
SWF mode was not designed to play on discord with your friends and talk all the time with a BIG advantage on the Killer. But that's strange how another UNINTENTIONAL feature is allowed for survivors but not for KIllers.
we literally have an official discord server with an SWF section in it.
And not, SWF was NOT designed for talk on discord with your friends.
you are literally playing with your friends. what do you expect, everyone sitting silently in their room, never saying a word?
also you cant just not let people have fun with their friends.
deal with Key abusing
keys are getting nerfed.
BT and DS spam
both got nerfed multiple times.
People really think Blight's J-flick are like "Let me change my dpi and magically I willl get a beatiful and perfectly predicted hit" are so dumb and probably never tried to achieved that skill. And most probably never played Killer or Blight.
in my 4500 ingame hours i have almost exclusively been playing killer. and trust me, i did not need to rely on exploits to do well.
That was a beatiful feature and not hard to dodge at all
not a feature in the slightest. it was an exploit and Blight was never intended to be played like that. and exploits have zero say in balance discussions.
Spirit with Stridor + Sound equalizer is allowed
Stridor is an ingame perk...... also what exactly do you want the Devs to do about a third party programm that makes your sound louder (e.g. Headphones)? thats like saying the Devs need to fix people drawing a crosshair on their computer screen and playing Deathslinger / Huntress...
please just let this stupid topic die already.
it was an exploit, exploits are getting fixed - end of discussion.
So why isn't Stretch Res Patched out yet?
=D
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@Kate_Main_01 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2186027#Comment_2186027
Thank you for your response! That's a shame about Trickster!
- So his power is mostly charging then, yes? Are you hugging the wall to stay out of the open space of the center? How comparable are his charges to Billy's?
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2186029#Comment_2186029
I appreciate you responding! That's good to know that playing against him is about the same as every other Killer. Loop your loops, try to outlast.
What made Survivors stop using Decisive Strike? Is there a Killer counter now or is there just a new meta Survivor perk to counter camping/tunneling?
He's faster than hillbilly.
your best bet is to fake alot of windows and hope to god he mindgames himself,
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@Kate_Main_01 said:
Hey everyone! I've been away since about September of '20 and returned to find so much new content! I'm super excited! That being said I've got a few (probably obvious/basic) questions that I'd super appreciate anyone taking the time to answer.
- What's the best way to counter Blight? In playing today he was the most challenging of the new killers that I encountered (and admittedly the most frequent). Is his playstyle mostly centered around speed/charging?
- Killers - how do you play Trickster? I've only gone against two of him and he seemed to be played a lot like Huntress but slightly speedier. What tricks does Trickster have?
- Graphics upgrades - I've seen some news about those rolling out (Coldwind Farms looks beautiful now, great job, devs!) but I've not been able to find anything about frequency or a schedule. I'm dying to see new Kate!
- I've got cross-platform on, are console gamers going against PC gamers now? The wait times were non-existent today which was so nice to return to!
Thank you anyone who takes the time to read/respond to these questions. I've a sea of new things to go through so having some of these answered will be such a big help. Happy gaming! <3
1 Blight is countered by gen rushing and being unpredictable... usually you have to hug the wall / flare out just to avoid his power.
2 Nobody plays Depipster..
3 It's every 3 months i do believe,
4 every console goes against pc =D
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@DemoFrog said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2181329#Comment_2181329
so i'm... scary?
A Scary Best Boi, =D
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still rank 1 both sides.
Rank reset is great btw =D
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2185861#Comment_2185861
So you want to go against lower skilled survivors who you can stomp on?
I don't think those lower skilled survivors want to go against higher skilled killers.
80% of red ranks survivors are boosted.
the other 20% are decent / actual good survivors that don't go down within 5 seconds of being hit,
Just make it harder for survivor to rank up so it MEANS something,
Not this bs SBMM,
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The Ultimate Pallet Destroyer.
Fire up / Brutal Strength / Enduring / Spirit Fury
Screw them pallets up,
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SBMM will kill this game
Sorry but i don't wanna verse good survivors 24/7 that can instantly read all my mindgames,
it'll make 50 wins ina row Impossible, for Otz even,
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@MrDardon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2185762#Comment_2185762
Doctor is countered by holding W and predropping pallets once he is gets even the slightest chance of using shock therapy against Survivors. You probably have to have a giga brain to get the shocks going. And even if you do, shocking Survivors around loops for 1 simple M1 takes so much time, time in which the other Survivors can rush the gens.
Oni has to M1 to get this Power, do you think that you can get those M1's fast against Tournament Survivors? I can't, because Survivors will just loop me around stuff and drop pallets early when they see me coming. He is strong in his power, but he needs to get this power.
Billy has good mobility. He maybe has some potential with Bamboozle against Tournament Survivors, but once they realize Billy has Bamboozle, they will adjust to it and play safe. Billy even with Bamboozle will become an M1 Killer when Survivors know how to loop.
Twins? They are good and certainly not bad, but not good enough to deal with Tournament Survivors.
Slinger has to low mobility. Great chase potential, but Survivors who rush gens will crush Slinger.
Demo is a good
boiKiller and underrated by pretty much the whole community but he will struggle against tight loopers just like the rest of the other 20 Killers.Doc has Restraint. making shocks instant and reliable..
Oni won't get his power easily.
Billy with Lopros + Engravings. + bamboozle. hard to counter..
Twins? Just keep healing
Slinger just gotta block LoS and hope he has good internet to not pokos you.
Demo is a best boi. better rephrase that,
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...Hm
I usually see entitled survivors.. but this?
I see a Entitled Killer, =D no offense..
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@MrDardon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2185717#Comment_2185717
Public yeah, because tournament level Tier lists are unrealistic. You don't go against Tournament Level Survivors every game. But yeah, my list was intended to include public games.
But sure. If we include tournament play then we can add Nurse, Spirit and J-flick Blight to S and every other Killer to D because every other Killer will lose against Tournament Survivors.
Not every killer loses..
Doctors do well when they get 3 survivors left.
Onis and billies aswel do good.
Twins do somewhat well before the nerf,
Slinger is alright against them
Demo is great against em..
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@MrDardon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2185671#Comment_2185671
It isn't messed up, it's my opinion and my own exeprience with all the Killers. You have your opinion, I have mine. The last few times I played Hag, I demolished teams with her 3 gen strat. She is defensive, I find her boring because of that but I can defnitely see her strength. I wouldn't say that she is to low.
That's public lobbies though,
I'm referring towards Tournament level in which this is how it would play out
they would just by on the edge of her traps. not even in lunging distance since hag has that slowdown,
not even Scrollwheel would win that. due to said issue
I'm not saying you're wrong since hag is a strong defensive killer. but she gets outshined against good survivors that play / vs hag alot..
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@MrDardon said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/UPAJDZG57YWF/image.png
That would probably be my opinion.
- S: We can probably all agree on. Those 3 rule DbD.
- A+: Has the potential to be S but her weaknesses drop her down a bit. (trap flashlighting, disturbing her while setting up etc.)
- A: Good Killers who can punish mistakes pretty heavily.
- B+: Decent Killers who can also punish Survivors mistakes but where good teamplay will probably destroy them.
- B: Alright Killers but against competent Survivors, they will struggle a bit.
- C: Easily beaten by good Survivors
- D: #########?
I would say that regular Add-ons and regular Perks would be taken into account. Actually, I play most Killers without Add-ons so this list is probably biased more towards Killers without Add-ons
Doc beats twins. aswel with billy.
Clown puts michael to shame. aswel with GF and Wraith. + piggy,
Billy is severely better than half that list..
Slinger is worse than Demo,
Huntress is waaaaaay down there she's a public killer
Freddy should be put Lower on the list aswel with hag..
It's not a bad one though...but it's just too messed up,
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@BigBall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2183563#Comment_2183563
Ok I'm sorry I should have specified, I think wraith's addons are better than clowns, not bubba, but once Oni gets his power however he's way to powerful to be able to compare to Billy. Getting his power is not as hard as you say, It really does not take long to get his power and once you do it's at least almost 2 free downs. Look man, I'm a Billy/Oni main, Oni just feels a lot more powerful. Billy is required to get right behind a survivor to use his chainsaw for an almost guaranteed down. Oni can get people on the move, which alone separates the two. although Billy's curving is very useful in loops, Oni has demon strike which is an instant one shot and an instant pallet break, and because Oni can literally hold m1 for a split second and still get an instadown, just proves he's stronger.
You gotta take into consideration,
Wraith would struggle against teams that will pre-throw after you uncloak or pre-vault before you get close,
Like i'm not saying hes bad or anything, just that in a tournament level style. Wraith will get severely out-played hardcore.
Whereas clown can atleast get a few downs. maybe a kill or two at best,
And Oni. he's good and all but Oni's issue is getting the first hit, which isn't the easiest if you're versing Four good loopers..
Hell. Pre-throwing against him is 100% taking his power away,
I was an OG billy back then and i can say that he was balanced non-addons why
(i still don't know why they touched his basekit..)
But since Billy has Access to Lopros + Engravings. makes him hellova danger to pre-throw even..
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@BigBall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2182948#Comment_2182948
clown does not have better addons tf
@BigBall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2182948#Comment_2182948
you actually think billy is better than oni? cuz no
1, Clown does have better Addons than Bubba.
2. Billy is Far Superior Compared to Oni
3. Oni has to WORK for his power. Billy doesn't. Billy already has access to said power. whereas oni can be denied by just pre-throwing and holding W to another loop,
4. Billy has Access to Lopros + Engravings. already boosting himself up there as it stands. Oni involves his power. BUT CAN STILL BE DENIED IT BTW.
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@whycantIwin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2183351#Comment_2183351
if trickster falls for it it works, that's it, if ut doesn't he goes away looking for someone else, trickster can't afford to waste 1 minute for 1 health state
Or just go to a long wall and do a mixed pathing to confuse him
Generally works everytime since he's only 110%
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Just gotta abuse that shack + Hold W strat against Trickster.. lol
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2182994#Comment_2182994
Trickster isn't even that bad. Don't be rediculous
@whycantIwin said:
trickster is C
Against good survivors? He wouldn't stand a chance..
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@WishIcouldmain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2183327#Comment_2183327
So doing something to the gameplay outside of what the devs intended is not an exploit? And Blight would still have that spot without J-Flick
Stretch res makes a few loops unmindgameable by killers whereas survivors can just hold corners and just look over loops.
Whereas Blight has to rush acouple times to get said Flick into play, Which can't be performed on Every loop no matter what people say..
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@WishIcouldmain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2182948#Comment_2182948
Blight doesn't need J flick to be where he is. And it's still odd that an exploit counts while an in game add-on does. And what tournament would allow an exploit to be in play?
Every tournament allows blight and J-flicks.
They allow it since it has Counterplay aswel,
And it's still not an exploit if it's not counterable...
Stretch res is consider an Exploit however.
Uncounterable to say the least,
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@danielmaster87 said:
Think about it. In a 1 versus (however many) horror game, the killer should feel in control, unless the players on the other team on average are good at the game. Obviously if you're going solo survivor, and so are all your teammates, you probably won't be coordinated enough and the killer will beat you in the end. But a team of people on mics, though it's probably a little bit overkill, will probably be enough to beat the killer.
In essence, SWF is what we killers have asked for: we should only get beat by a strong team, and that's what SWF usually is. This equation can be seen in other games of this genre as well. There's still a lot of balance problems to work out beyond that, like for this game some maps are too big/small and some objectives are too hard/easy to complete, but I think that once those are sorted out, this game is going to be a fine one.
Ah yes. the Filthy Swf..
in which one swf could be causal peeps.
Or the Ultimate tryhards with 4 ds / unbreaks 2 bts 2 dhs 2 adrens 2 Sbs..
I'll choose the ladder,
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@BigBall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/249204/a-proper-killer-tier-list
this is so terrible, how can clown be above wraith, plague and legion, also on the same tier as bubba and huntress? this is one of the worst lists i've possibly ever seen. And why tf is billy over oni, I can't even. Slinger A tier, #########.
Billy Has access to his power at the start. Oni doesn't. He has to work it for AND can be countered easily by pre-dropping,
No addons can save him from survivors pre-dropping against an oni. denying him not only a hit BUT wasting time aswel.
Clown has Better Anti-loop + Better addons than Wraith. plague and legion, Hell even better than Bubba.
Slinger has faster down potential and can instantly injure without trying. plus it's hard to counter a quickscoping slinger,
@Alice_pbg said:
hag... b tier...
yeah...no.
she's literally one of the few killers that doesn't even need add-ons to be amazing.
Hag is easily countered my guy...
Not even scrollwheel saves her from good Coordinated teams that hugs the edge of the map + activates all of her traps mid-chase or mid-animation
@[Deleted User] said:
Plague is way too low but otherwise the list fine.
Hag is going to be controversial because she's great until you get into the 99th percentile of comms and coordination and then she's kind of a joke. We both play comp so we've seen it/done it, but it's hard for people to grasp, as snobby as that may sound. Hag has nothing for teams that are patient, tank hits and W up the edges of the maps, and constantly reset.
I meant to put plague higher than legion before i saved the tier list. Since she can run Oil + the very rare addon which i forgot what it was called.
People are stubborn as hell to believe Hag is better than Blight.. in which case she isn't...
@Laluzi said:
Wraith isn't really countered by predropping pallets unless you're on The Game and you have enough strong pallets to do this until the end of the game. He breaks the pallet, catches up to you in 10 seconds, and you either do the same or go down. Pallets are a finite resource and creating dead zones just makes him that much more lethal later on. His real counter is a good window that he can't quickly switch to the other side of - but a smart Wraith will just zoom to someone else. Guy is not bottom tier.
I'm a little baffled you put him in D and Demo in A when they have many of the same strengths - fiddly undetectable that doesn't really make you undetectable but can get you close to survivors, high map mobility, and a very powerful lunge. Demo can cover more distance faster if he sets up and survivors don't interfere, but Wraith is better on every other count.
Hag requires a team to coordinate and have somebody break her web of traps while she's occupied in chase/bringing someone else to the hook. This never happens in solo, and even SWFs struggle with her, because they still need to know where she placed traps in order to break them. Her ability to immediately be at unhooks, her hexes, and the other side of key pallets/windows is devastating, she can immediately force survivors to leave a loop she doesn't like, and I'd think she belongs in A.
Once she voms on a few people, Plague either has permanent instadown plus anti-stealth, or she has toggleable 60 seconds of being able to damage people at range. Pallets and windows are both death sentences; the best you can do against a Plague with Corrupt Purge who knows what she's doing is to run in circles around a high wall structure and force her to M1 you after waiting out a significant chunk of the timer. Corrupt Purge is particularly devastating at unhooks, group gens, and exit gate parties. Even without her power, Plague is above-average dangerous to healthy players because sickness damage doesn't grant a speed boost like any other hit would be, so if you're in a bad position, she can injure you and then down you without giving you the ability to run to a loop.
Wraith will still be countered by good survivors my guy. there is no Denying it, no matter how quickly he can even catch up to you.
He does not have Enough map pressure to make up for that loss of distance. Especially good pathing by survivors.
@WishIcouldmain said:
Well I'm torn if you decide to include the Blight J flick an exploit and not add-ons in game like scalped top knot.
They do have addons. But Blight J-flick carries him. and topknot is waaaay too op,
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@Laluzi said:
You're seriously underestimating Wraith, Plague, and Hag - especially Wraith post-buff, someone who can zoom around the map at 150% as a baseline is not bottom tier - and I feel like Billy is overplaced as #4; he's largely outperformed by similar killers these days, mainly Oni/Blight for mobility and Bubba for ease of chainsaw. There is a reason virtually nobody plays him anymore; his difficulty/reward is way off. Like, Billy's still great if he's being played by somebody who's worked him down to a science, but if you're using the supermax skill ceiling as your baseline for a killer's performance, Huntress should be way higher than middle-of-the-road.
Clown may be a bit overplaced as well, but he performs great in 1v1s, so I'm less bothered by that. Demo definitely does not belong above the likes of Hag, Pyramid Head, Freddy, and Huntress.
Other than that, this feels pretty right to me.
Also. Clown can technically Force early pallet drops and can get pallets out Waaay faster than bubba can, Demo is placed higher due to his shred potential, It's just too good to not Spam every pallet, He's severely is Underrated by the community, A good Demo is a Very Scary Demo...
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@Laluzi said:
You're seriously underestimating Wraith, Plague, and Hag - especially Wraith post-buff, someone who can zoom around the map at 150% as a baseline is not bottom tier - and I feel like Billy is overplaced as #4; he's largely outperformed by similar killers these days, mainly Oni/Blight for mobility and Bubba for ease of chainsaw. There is a reason virtually nobody plays him anymore; his difficulty/reward is way off. Like, Billy's still great if he's being played by somebody who's worked him down to a science, but if you're using the supermax skill ceiling as your baseline for a killer's performance, Huntress should be way higher than middle-of-the-road.
Clown may be a bit overplaced as well, but he performs great in 1v1s, so I'm less bothered by that. Demo definitely does not belong above the likes of Hag, Pyramid Head, Freddy, and Huntress.
Other than that, this feels pretty right to me.
Wraith is still a basic 115% killer with nothing to help In chase. Will get out-played by just pre-dropping against Good Survivors. Same with Hag and Plague, Billy still out-performs bubba in many ways than what people don't realize.
@DawnMad said:
I think you didn't do justice to a lot of killers. The ones that bugs me most are: Blight isn't S tier, you have to be map independent to be S tier which Blight definitely isn't, especially with his many collision bugs. Billy is definitely not as good as you give him credit, he can rarely use his chainsaw against good loopers who know how to play around his power and even in an open area his chainsaw is not too hard to dodge.
Blight is still S tier. His bad maps are Lerys and Hawkins, Swamp is 50/50 but still performs well, Billy can still curve and move at (I believe 170%) M/S kinda hard to counter that on a good Curve
@ohheyitsbobcat said:
I'd argue Ghostface, Plague, and Hag are too low and Demo is too high. A few others seem out of place as well but I think they're a little more debatable.
All in all though not a bad tier list IMO.
Hag can be countered insanely by good survivors. Stepping on the edge makes her power useless. Not even Scroll-wheel can save her. GF is just a basic 115% aswel with just hidden stain mechanics. pre-drop and he's useless. Plague has to work for her power already which is bad as all hell, She'll get countered instantly by just Blocking LoS,
Edit: Fixed Spelling Errors.
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@Sup3rCatTree said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2181028#Comment_2181028
If it was a meme I would put pig and trickster in S teir
This list..
Is just too wrong my guy
that's why i said this is a meme list..
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@DemoFrog said:
Sorry for spamming these out, but I enjoy it so eh. Took some feedback, changed some spots, this should work. Also this takes into consideration their very best addons, and left = high tier and right = low tier.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/PEL315EQPFHA/e0e186dc-8375-41be-a959-7eba0f125c04.jpeg
Wraith better than bubba?
Bubba better than Doctor?
....Wot
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This list is a meme,
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Spirit is still better than blight my guy..
Blight will still be 3rd from spirit.
The j-flicking made him closer to spirit in terms of power vs power..
But now he just barely comes close.
even the Z Flick barely saves em =D
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@SMitchell8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2175182#Comment_2175182
I see your point, but having a killer with no terror radius causes chaos on the indoor matches. For me he's bang in the middle. Great against noobs and weaker teams, but abused easily by good teams.
good killer for indoors.
But worse on outdoor maps.
Even no terror radius. he gets out-classed by Spine Chill.
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Sorry to say but. Imho
He's the 2nd weakest killer in the game.. (Aside from Trickster)
He's just a Basic 115% killer that relies on survivors mistakes alot more than other killers..
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I still think it's one of the Baker's..
I can't imagine being chased by a Crazed Turned Old Man who has a Modified Rake as a weapon...
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@gibblywibblywoo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2173735#Comment_2173735
Not exactly, his early game is much worse than Trickster who can immediately jump into a chase, micheal is at the mercy of 3rd person cameras and high walls until he gets his T2. And then he's just trapless trapper.
You'll be very surprised how many people don't pay attention..
You can see games where you can't see michael's head because of what the background is.
(Which is very surprising despite how bland the background can be) from a mile away..
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@gibblywibblywoo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2170061#Comment_2170061
115 would help with a lot of tiles just destroying his power, but it wouldn't fix his low map pressure.
I think this match shows that no matter how good a player you are, certain killers just have skill ceilings that limit your skill. If he played Micheal or Trapper this match would have played out the same. But with Nurse or Spirit or maybe Huntress/Oni it'd be a different story. Too many killers have a low skill ceiling/room to use their power compared to survivor utility.
I love Shape, for example. But if I see 4 survivors that I know are amazing loopers I already know I have zero chance of winning, because Shape can't deal with loops, and there's no aspect to his power that will help with that.
Technically.
You can't beat Michael's T3 lunge or his fast vault..
Makes any filler pallet unsafe against him due to the fact he can just lunge halfway on one side and finish his lunge on the pallet.
It's still strong. that would've changed the pace of the match if he was Michael so to say,
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@EvilJoshy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2170061#Comment_2170061
Either way. These 2 did more research on trickster than the entire design, balance and testing teams combined. Who gave the green light to ship this killer in their current condition? I'm starting to wonder if trickster was pushed out prematurely so they could pave the way for the RE chapter.
Bhvr released a April Fools gone wrong killer.. that's what happened =D
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This was the opposite of what i had in mind..
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If trickster was 115% none of these issues would happen..
Otz is not the best. But just Good reguardless..
Same with tru3..
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I swear...
ima hug you all.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/248140/how-to-make-survivors-mad-post
Step four. Is defending camping, tunneling, slugging as viable strategies
I knew i shoulda added that..