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@sleepylibra said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586729#Comment_3586729
Yup! The lore that goes into everything whether it's backstory, tomes, or cosmetic descriptions/appearances is the only reason I still play Dead by Daylight after all these years. Not like I've been playing this game for 7 years because I'm passionate about fixing gens and getting tunneled and left on first hook to die from my solo queue teammates every other match.
Period! 👏👏👏👏
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@bobateo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586602#Comment_3586602
But that isn't what a cooldown is and adding a condition of 'if I get all the value a perk can give over 30 seconds in the first .05 second' does not suddenly make UW cooldown universally 60 seconds. The perk has a set 'value' that can be gained over the course of its 30 second activation. Whether or not all the value is gained right at beginning or all at the end does not change its actual cooldown of 30 seconds.
While there might be instances that UW feels like it has a longer cooldown, at the end of the day it doesn't because you could find all 4 survs at the 29.5 second mark and still get the full 'value' that the perk can give right before it goes on its actual cooldown.
A 30 second activation window comes close to guaranteeing that you will find a surv with it and the 30 sec cooldown means that more than likely by the time you've chased, downed, hooked that surv, you are at or very near being able to activate it again. Saying that UW does have a 60 cooldown without adding the huge qualifier of 'in very specific situations where you get all the perk value right at the beginning' is pretty misleading. I am not saying you're doing that, but other people claiming the 60 second cooldown have.
Finally someone with common sense that was able to explain what I've been trying to say elaborately and articulately. Thank you!🤠
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There are so many useless or niche perks...
I can list some off the top of my head for survivors: Premonition, Red Herring, Poised, Solidarity, Calm Spirit, This is not Happening, Power of Two, Collective Stealth, Corrective Action, Rookie Spirit, Better than New, Blood Pact, Cut Loose, Dark Sense, Inner Focus, Low Profile, Pharmacy, Quick Gambit, Up the Ante...
No surprise why perks like MFT or WoO rise to top when a big portion of perks are garbage or situational at best.🤷♂️
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@Ayodam said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3587250#Comment_3587250
People absolutely complain about every one of those perks. It’s strange you’d state (after saying you didn’t see complaints about it 🤔) that complaints about WoO aren’t “really worthwhile.” So which is it? Have you seen complaints or not?
"It’s strange you’d state (after saying you didn’t see complaints about it 🤔) that complaints about WoO aren’t “really worthwhile.” So which is it? Have you seen complaints or not?"
Yeah... That's strange... It's almost as if those two statements completely contradict eachother...😂 Btw IDK what happened but everything they said disappeared all of a sudden and now it looks like I've been talking to myself.😭
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3587237#Comment_3587237
I have seen WoO complaints, sure, but WoO complaints aren’t really worthwhile.
i’d love to see these Resilience and Adrenaline nerf threads. Last one I saw was one complaining about Adren screwing over Freddy in particular, which is less of a complaint about Adren being too strong and more asking for Adren to work like all other Perks and not screw over particular Killers like old Small Game.
i might’ve “joined” the forum a couple of days ago, doesn’t mean I haven’t been here longer
Just a couple of them I found after a few simple scrolls... :) All recent. You can see them too if you take a look. It's unrealistic for me to copy every single "survivor nerf" thread here. You can find a nerf suggestion about any perk.
The point is that both sides have an ongoing "nerf witch-hunt" just for the sake of nerfing the other side (you should be able to see this unless you have a bias) and blaiming only one side for this like the comment I replied to is nothing more than hypocrisy.
(PS. I'm not saying the users in screenshots shared don't have valid arguments, it was just to prove that these discussions exist since you claim you "haven't seen anyone asking for nerfs for any of these perks")
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3587201#Comment_3587201
I haven't seen anyone asking for nerfs for any of these Perks, neither here nor on the Subreddit
It's very common especially on the Feedbacks section. There's always one circling. Just replied to one a couple of days ago. You'll see them if you choose to.
Btw what do you mean you "haven't seen anyone asking for nerfs for ANY of these perks"? Haven't you seen ANYTHING related to WoO AT ALL? That's very unlikely...
Edit: Just saw you joined forums just a couple of days ago so that might be the reason you haven't seen anything.
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@BlueRose said:
I think just UW will be nerfed. I'm sure it has a huge pick rate and survivors can't stop talking about it. I dont think STBL will be touched tho. The real question is what perk will survivors complain about after UW is nerfed? You know they attack the next perk that is too powerful on the s tier killers but ok on the other killers. It's an endless cycle...
Just like how Killers have already started demanding Adrenaline, Resilience, WoO etc. nerfs after MFT nerf was announced? To paint "survivors" in that light is unfair and hypocritical and doesn't accomplish anything but inserting your one-sided us vs. them mentality into an argument.
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@BlueRose said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586694#Comment_3586694
It was still nerf bc of the nurse and that was the main point in my post. The person I was replying to rather see every killer perk nerf if it to strong on the S-tier killers. Something I dont agree with at all. I know AA was nerf bc of Starstruck Nurse but let's be honest ppl would still think it be too powerful on Nurse even today if it had its 2-second aura reading after you hook/drop a survivor even if she can't use Starstruck anymore. In fact, Otz as of late has been saying all Aura reading perks on Nurse are too strong but his solution to this is to nerf Nurse not nerf the perks themselves.
"The person I was replying to rather see every killer perk nerf if it to strong on the S-tier killers."
Love how you put a bunch of words into my mouth.😍 All I said was there shouldn't be a huge gap between the value Killers can get from a perk. I said devs should consider this when designing a perk. I didn't speak of nerfs or buffs.
You're going to assume all perks should be nerfed now because Nurse/Blight can get more use of them. That's why I'm mentioning a gap. The last problematic perk before UW was Starstruck in my opinion. The gap between that perks usefulness was so big that it triggered BHVR to rework Nurse's attacks. Now since Nurse can just blink and show up in a location I think they recreated that gap with UW which can be problematic.
Besides couple of perks I mentioned like Starstruck or UW, most perks are still in an acceptable state even though they're more powerful on stronger Killers. So what I said doesn't translate to "let's nerf everything because Nurse". Powerful doesn't always equal problematic.
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586622#Comment_3586622
Your chosen definition states that a cooldown is the minimal amount of time between 2 activations of the same ability.
You need to wait 60 seconds to activate UW after activating it once, so therefore UW has a cooldown of 60 seconds
You were saying the cooldown is 45-50 seconds in your earlier comment and now you're claiming the cooldown is 60 seconds...
I'm guessing we're just going to disagree on this one, thanks for the discussion!
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586615#Comment_3586615
Except for the fact that your chosen definition goes against what you’re arguing since you can’t reactive UW until the activation window and the “cooldown” expire, so it is a 60 second cooldown
That's clearly not what I'm talking about though?! If someone asks me what the cooldown of UW is I'm going to answer "30 seconds". I'm not going to go down a rabbit hole like you.
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@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586595#Comment_3586595
If everyone screams as soon as you open the locker, because they're all already within your terror radius, Ultimate Weapon unambiguously has a cooldown of sixty seconds. The minimum time you have to wait before you can use it again includes both the active duration, as it cannot be activated again during that period, and the cooldown afterwards.
Ultimate Weapon has a variable cooldown that is at least thirty seconds, but can be longer, depending on how early the survivors scream. This is kind of immaterial when it comes to how strong the perk is, but it is just how the perk works. I'm not sure why you're contesting this when it's pretty obvious.
But that variable factor doesn't mean someone can come up with a random number like 45/50/60 and claim that's the cooldown and it doesn't mean they're entitled to call me "wrong" if I don't agree with that random number... I've only said UW's cooldown is 30 seconds which even by definition, is correct.
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586593#Comment_3586593
The only amazing thing here is how you’re wrong from 2 different POVs lol
Enjoy your personal cooldown.👍
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586580#Comment_3586580
By your definition of a cooldown, UW has a cooldown of 60 seconds since you can’t reactivate it once you open a Locker until both the activation window and “cooldown” expire
@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586580#Comment_3586580
If UW kept causing survivors to scream while they remain in the killer's TR, then it would be a 30 second CD.
But as it stands, UW triggers each survivor to scream once during that 30 second period and since the killer can't use the perk again until both the 30 second duration and 30 second CD occurs, the perk is effectively a 60 second CD for the killer.
It's just basic math of 30 + 30.
So according to Huxy UW has a 45-50 second cooldown and according to Crowman it's a 60 second cooldown and the perk description says 30 second.
Cooldowns are subjective now? Everybody got their own cooldown? Anybody else who would like to share their personal cooldown?
Forums never stop amazing me.😂
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586557#Comment_3586557
i’m not assuming anything, that is literally how the Perk works. Once every Survivor screams once, it does nothing for the remained of the activation window and only then does it go cooldown. If the Perk reveals all Survivors it can before the activation window finishes, it does nothing and then goes on cooldown, therefore the Perk has (on average) a longer cooldown than 30 seconds, more like 45-50 seconds. And then you have to factor in the amount of time that passes after the cooldown until the Killer opens another Locker.
I still don’t get how this is hard to understand (unless you’ve never actually used the Perk).
the only misinformation here is that the Perk has a 30 second cooldown flat when it doesn’t. The minimum cooldown is 30 seconds, the maximum could be infinite since you don’t always have time to waste your time opening a Locker depending on the Killer/Map/Survivors
Me: "UW has a 30 second cooldown."🙂
You: "Wrong!"😠🤬😤
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586541#Comment_3586541
Except for the fact that UW does nothing once it reveals the Survivors’ locations, and if it does that before the 30 second activation window expires (which happens more often than not), it has a longer cooldown.
UW is not even a popular enough Perk for it to make you this butt-hurt about it not being a super niche info Perk like almost all other info Perks
The thing is you're inserting a value narrative and your own assumption of an imaginary match to the definition of cooldown even though it's so clear what the word cooldown is referring to. If you tell someone that UW has a 60 second cooldown you're misinforming them. It's factually incorrect. Your feelings don't change that, unfortunately.
Also me correcting your misinformation doesn't make me "butthurt". You don't have to get that hectic and personal over a perk debate. Calm down.
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586535#Comment_3586535
The Perk has a 30 second activation window. You will usually reveal every Survivor in about 10-15 second, after which the Perk does nothing and then goes on cooldown.
Just because it isn’t called a cooldown doesn’t mean that it isn’t one. The Perk has a period where you can’t activate it again that’s longer than 30 seconds
Perk has a cooldown of 30 seconds once the active window ends. There isn't much to interpret there. Cooldown. 30 seconds.
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@Huxy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586528#Comment_3586528
UW is active until each Survivor screams once.
It does nothing for the remainder of its duration after that and then goes on a 30 second CD.
60 seconds is stretching it, but it's more like 45-50 second CD
That's not a cooldown though? That's "how often can you activate it on each survivor". The definition of a cooldown is really clear and it's not that. So it just looks like a play of words to make UW look worse than it actually is LOL.
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586309#Comment_3586309
The perk only triggers once per a survivor while active and the cooldown doesn't start till the active period is over.
It is a 60 second cooldown per a use.
No, it's a 30 second cooldown just like how the perk description says. Idk where you get 60 seconds from?
You open a locker. UW is ACTIVE for 30 seconds which means it continues to work for that duration and keep applying to survivors as you travel. Once the active 30 seconds is over, it doesn't work anymore and a 30 second cooldown starts until you can open a locker and activate it for 30 seconds again. So the cooldown is 30 seconds and not 60 seconds.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3586487#Comment_3586487
Almost like the problem isn't perks, it's Nurse/Blight.
The thing is they have to take into account the type of Killers available in the game before designing a perk and make sure there's a fair amount of value they can get from them without huge gaps like Trapper with UW vs. Nurse with UW. Which they obviously failed to do with this perk.
Balancing perks with this in mind is more doable and realistic than rewriting Nurse or Blight from scratch. So these specific Killers being busted doesn't invalidate anything related to perk design and it's a part of it.
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Because UW is a perk that outclasses other info perks, has no counterplay except for Calm Spirit (LOL) and it's just another perk that only overpowers already high-tier mobility killers. Nobody cares if Trapper is running UW but Nurse and Blight mains are turning their brains off, zooming across map with it, ending games in a couple of minutes. It does too much for least amount of effort. Just open a locker and that's it, you don't have to accomplish anything like downing or hooking a survivor etc. like most info perks require you to do.
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Anonymous mode doesn't make you invincible to bans.
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OMG I thought it was a bug that they weren't showing as time-limited! YIPPE! BHVR on right path again.
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Gabriel mains before showing up in a trial:
"Hmm... Which orange jacket should I wear this time?"
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To be honest... I know debates on this forum get heated sometimes and there can be a lot of "us vs them" or toxicity but I feel like most people here would get along fine in real life and just vibe LOL...🤠
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Yup... It's horrendous. For some time now pings have been very hit-or-miss. I get 400ms~ in one lobby or I skip that one and find a lobby where I get my usual ping which is 60ms~ and it stays consistent throughout the game. I just have to lobbyshop a couple of times. Zero issues when it comes to other games or my internet. It's a DBD problem.
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Y'all are throwing the word "abuse" around so lightly...
I know Buckle Up + FTP can be annoying but "the most abused SWF perk combo in history" is so delusional.
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It's only a cosmetic collaboration and not a chapter.
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@TSQuint said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3581639#Comment_3581639
Deal with what? People playing the game with a perk? Man, some of you...
"I'm so sorry you have to deal with survivors using perks... You're going through such hard times...Wishing you the best.😞"
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@Annso_x said:
Even better:
SoloQ: Normal game
2 SWF: Start with one hook state
3 SWF: Start with two hook states
4 SWF: Start with two hook states but three survivors are already on hook
Even better:
SoloQ: Normal game
2 SWF: You can't.
3 SWF: You can't.
4 SWF: You can't.
Yes! You can't play an online game with your friends! Period!
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👁️👄👁️
How to kill your playerbase tutorial...
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@CatnipLove said:
Seeing as BHVR will accidently nerf fast vaults again at some point, I say we buff resilience to compensate.
I still find it funny that a 9% increase to vault speeds is so controversial.
Complaining about 0.045 second difference is CRAAAZZZYYYY...😭😭
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@Archol123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3582250#Comment_3582250
The difference is UW gets completely negated by calm spirit, a perk that can be brought on every character and works all the time. MFT however gives you a bonus that can basically only be ignored by insta down killers/powers/perks, and then leave you injuured with perk value, or you need to have a killer that has an exhaustion addon or one of the very few (good) perks that make the survivor exhausted, and none of those work all the time... So your comparison lacks severely.
There are a ton of anti-exhaustion perks and almost every killer has an anti-exhaustion add-on but nobody cared enough to use them to combat MFT because they prefer stacking gen regression perks instead and demand a MFT nerf which we're getting soon.
Now why would anyone want to bring Calm Spirit, waste a perk slot and be a detriment to their team in case they go against a potential UW Nurse/Blight/Oni? Asking people to use CS in 2023 is crazy.
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It's the same perk since release. No, thanks.
Sounds like a witchhunt to nerf anything just for the sake of nerfing it because it's a survivor perk. Try playing survivor a few times with Resilience and prove to me %9 percent on a vault was significant enought to save your behind.
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On this Forum "MFT is a frustrating perk because it's very strong with no good counterplay and punishes M1 killers" is an okay opinion to have but "UW is a frustrating perk with no good counterplay and it only overpowers already S-tier killers" will get you crucified and called a bad player.😍
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Expecting forum people to put their bias aside is cray cray and requires divine power!🤠
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Oh nvm it's back y'all LOL
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You mean all the stuff you purchased for %50 off?🤨
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Yeah, it seems inconsistent... Also wth is going on in that game?😭
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
What I want to see now:
My name has been Scoops Robin for DBD since the day it was removed. I had given up all hope, and now.... I am absolutely ecstatic and my hope is renewed!
I hope so!! and since ST left the cosmetics team improved so much so they would EAT!
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I woke up the next day and this still wasn't a dream?! Omfg😭😭😭
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@CatnipLove said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3578286#Comment_3578286
I think I misread this: "Yes, the map will also be coming back to Dead by Daylight. Our team has been hard at work in ensuring that all recent Killer Powers that have been added to the game since Stranger Things left the store, will work as expected on the map".
Thanks for the correction. Here, have a boop 👉️🐽
Yes, they wrote it in future tense for some reason LOL! Thank you for the BOOP. 💋
hold my purse 3genning on hawkins real quick.........
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@CatnipLove said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3578277#Comment_3578277
I thought BHVR said that it wasn't ready yet. Is it playable now?
Yes, it's enabled!
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Guys, I asked Demo if he was back and this was his response! :
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@CatnipLove said:
So Hawkins isn't back yet, as it needs to be tested for the new killer powers that released after it was kill-switched? Does that mean BHVR wasn't prepared for the return of ST? Were they as surprised as we were? 😂
It's back!
screenshot by @dvveet on twt
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@Marc_123 said:
Yeeeeeessss!!!!!!!!!!!
After the disapointment last year i didn´t trust these leaks....
I am really happy ST and Hawkins is back.
Yes! I was at a point where I didn't even trust anything related to ST coming back! I can't believe it's real!
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3578251#Comment_3578251
There are new ones?
Nope, they're all the pre-existing ones that were hidden after ST left but I hope we get newer cosmetics in the future!
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https://twitter.com/MCote_BHVR/status/1721626368750813693
well yes mathieu cote thank you!
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GTHO "SELF-AWARE"! FIXATED IS BACK!
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GUYS LOOK!
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https://twitter.com/Stranger_Things/status/1721626003787915431
some more crying