UlvenDagoth
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Nope. She's too strong! She is the Entity after all.
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Lower Tier Killers and Perks (On both sides) need love.
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@GennyFromTheBlock said:
This is a perfect example of how Killers are single handedly ruining this game with knee-jerk reactions.
It's clear that the OP does not know anything about this game other than what they perceive to be real.
Oh, brother.
Wow. You are rude literally every time I see you.
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@MongByeolBuddies said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764745#Comment_764745
Ah, the important thing is to make Legion and DbD better; however, that's accomplished is not nearly as big a deal.
Also, I noticed I made one typo in my post. Could you fix it in your post please?
I left out -- "the penalty to" in the Filthy Blade description.
Filthy Blade -- Moderately increases the penalty to Repair, Healing and Sabotage speeds (10 percent) to survivors suffering from the Deep Wound status effect.
I got ya man. And yes, I agree with the important thing
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/95908/what-is-really-the-objective
You can't escape without gens being done, so that is the survivor objective. And you cant kill if the survivors leave after doing gens, so you need to prevent gen completion. Hope i made everything clear.
But you CAN kill them after gens are done. Just to clarify
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They need to test them. The end.
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Exactly! I hope no one minds me ever taking the idea or hoping you post it in my thread too. I kinda want a "One Stop Shop" for Legion ideas for the Devs! But i'm so happy we could help you!
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764620#Comment_764620
No, you are doing an awesome job. Keep chasing them, keep wasting time. At least you are a nice example of what you aren't supposed to do
Alright, i'll keep an eye out. But it's not good you chose to belittle them, and not debate my valid points.
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Edit: Updated to match @MongByeolBuddies 's new idea. Keeping the one stop shop up to date!
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@MongByeolBuddies Imma update this on my thread!
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Wait... I see what you did. Sneaky. Good way to use DW too
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764620#Comment_764620
No, you are doing an awesome job. Keep chasing them, keep wasting time. At least you are a nice example of what you aren't supposed to do
But no reply to me?
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764643#Comment_764643
1. I agree
2. Yep.
3. He had 4 matches. Guess I put the wrong thing on the 1st graph... dammit...
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764664#Comment_764664
I feel you mate...I like legion too
But if it makes you feel any better, a Michael was using legion addons once. (He used a shard and the addons probably just bugged out, but it was kinda fun... XD)
That.... had to be interesting
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764573#Comment_764573
Given the amount of time it took them to fix some very bad issues, and the amount of issues that still have not been fixed, i say we have plenty of reason to bash at them. But i do agree that is an awesome idea
I will tend to go on the side of "They are doing the best with what they have." I will admit I could be wrong there. But I don't know what is going on at there headquarters, but I know they don't want the game to die. SO i tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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*cries in Legion main*
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@Tensor said:
What I find the most amusing from the killer mains is that the Killers themselves are the one that complain the most and the loudest. If a survivor complains about something, the killer mains jump all over them, almost insult them and tell them to Git Gud or cleanse totems etc etc etc.
DS, Mettle, Adrenaline, insta heals, I could go on. But I guess those posts are ok.
Weird. I've seen the exact opposite thing.
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If i see an OoO.... that' is honestly one of the 2 situations I'll leave.
I like Legion, Ghostface (who thank God has an easier time but still gets messed up), Freddy, Trapper...
You can prolly see where my hate comes from.
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@Frosty said:
Other killers need attention first. If more were viable at high ranks, then maybe there would be some diversity. Instead of "this one killer is really good at shutting down A+ survivors and I'm tired of it so make her worse" we could nurf survivors into the ground so even clown and Legion are wrecking balls. Then maybe you'd see less spirit ;)
Buffing up lower Killers is what we need!
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Honestly, this place has always been mostly Whining.
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*cries in Legion Main*
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@Oshirigami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/698652#Comment_698652
See that'd be fair, yes.
I don't know why people are comparing instaheals and brand new part to mori. They're there to give survivors power growth against the power growth of things like prayer beats, instasaw, etc. Though I'd still say instasaw, prayer beads, and omega blink are too strong against the best survivor add-ons... those add-ons are still too strong compared to the weaker or average killer add-ons.
And are and ultrarare mori are A LOT stronger than instaheal. If someone is having a huge problem with survivors having a single instaheal that saves them from a single hit when they can take off 2 of their 3 hook lives with mori, they're just a terrible killer and terrible analyst.
Also, quick question. Have you played Killer?
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Is this still going?
Moris have alot of work put into them. They will not be removed. They wont just toss all of someone's animation work for EVERY KILLER.
Though, perhaps Ebony should be dialed down? Let's be real for a moment here. I'm a Killer main. 98% of my game play is Killer. Over the whole of my 400 something hours, i've used.... 5? 5 Ebony Moris. Why? Bad day or something similar. Would I use them otherwise? Nope, I want my points.
So honestly, I have no input for Mori changes. I don't use them. I'd rather use a BP offering.
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Honestly, the twist in that movie was what got me.
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Personal chase music for each Killer? YES PLEASE!
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I, frankly, Despise OoO. So anything that would make it less horrid I'm for.
A perk to let one guy see the Killer at all times. Who thought this was a good idea?
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@thekate said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764564#Comment_764564
Wrong, just wanna know if they have somethings in their mind, before a new Legion incident pops.
*cries in Legion main*
But I don't think Spirit is THAT bad.
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764521#Comment_764521
The ideas are great, but BHVR is BHVR
Well, no need to bash the Devs. All I want to do is make a one stop shop for ideas for Legion. If they use them, I would love it and i'd be really happy for whoever made the idea they pick. If they don't at least they can see that there are alot of Legion mains out there that really want to see the changes, and what they would WANT to see.
It's not even so much "DO THIS BVHR" it's "This is what we'd love to see."
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I think this post was a vague attempt at being snarky.
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@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/764528#Comment_764528
You don't really negate the effects though. The point of Ruin is to make the generator slower. You instead made the generator slower. It's the same thing in the end.
I am curious about the survivors being able to "Boop" a gen to stop regressing but a Killer has to channel a kick to start it regressing. I've had people do it in chase and literally just a frame of repair and they are off again.
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763817#Comment_763817
Not listening to YOU doesnt mean he wont listen to anyone
Also no, this has nothing to do with you. I've seen them in other places, talking to other people. It's literally pointless. Go look at there posts if you don't believe me.
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763781#Comment_763781
You are the one that is always saying "listen to people". Did i say anything but facts on that post?
Okay at least you are being more civil.
Now then, your post looks okay ON THE SURFACE. But lets dive a bit deeper. Yes, 80 seconds is by yourself.... with NO toolboxes, Perks, or Great Skill checks. You got the numbers off the Wiki, i assume, and that's how I know the rest. In fact the direct quote is " Fully repairing a Generator without the help of a Toolbox, Perks and other Survivors takes 80 seconds, assuming that no Great Skill Checks are succeeded and none failed" and you can find that on the Wiki.
Now, I don't even know where you got "Multiple hooks" outta that, or the idea that in that time you can "Kill" one Survivor. Maybe hook, so I get it if you mean that. But some Survivors are VERY VERY Good at chases. Or perhaps you have a low mobility Killer, or a map against you. You can't just assume that in that time you will hook one or more survivors.
You are also mot taking into the account that you will have to patrol MORE than one gen and on some maps they are WAY outta the way from each other. I've never, not even ONCE seen someone at the first gen I went too.
Now Corrupt i'll give you, I love that perk I use it on Legion ALL the time. But Pop REQUIRES you to hook someone and then get to the gen BEFORE it goes away to do ANYTHING. When it works it's amazing, but you can't always get that Pop across the map before the timer end or the gen pops. Like even The Game map would mess you up if you didn't get to that right gen at the right level at the right time.
Tinkerer, yay, I can see that gen way over there about to pop and have no TR. Will I got there? Sure. Will I be able to do anything about it? maybe. What if i see Multiple gens activate Tinkerer at once? What if they have toolboxes? Once again, you can't just assume it will help. Heck many people I know think Tinkerer sucks.
And lastly, Surveillance. Looks good on paper. It will help you IF you regress the gen in the first place and can GET to the gen when you see the color change. I'd pair it with Surge and perhaps Thrilling myself.
Now, if you can reply to that in a civil manner, i'll have no issues with you, seeing as you were civil on my own thread. But I hope you can see it's not as easy as "APPLY MORE PRESSSURE" cause about half the roster has a HARD time doing it unless the person playing it is a God at said character.
Thank you for reading all of this, if you did. Have fun in the Fog
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@Raccoon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763817#Comment_763817
You have access to their entire post histories.
Never feel bad about drawing your own conclusions based on what you see ;3
I've not only seen there history but i've seen them in action. They want attention. I refuse to give it.
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/740597#Comment_740597
I think devs wouldn't chase his power in any of rhe ways above. If they ever buff him, it would be a tweak to numbers, and not a complete ability rework
I do hope they will at least look at the ideas above. I hope it will be more than just numbers, but if it is numbers at least the Rushdown will still be there.
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@Watery said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763795#Comment_763795
Straw man means to construct a false argument attributing to the opposing persons side. Major logical fallacy.
I feel like we both have good intentions— but we’re approaching the topic with a sense of hostility that clouds our judgement.
What I was thinking was, is that killers need a map pressure buff, so others could be played. Most of the killers are like “survivors do gens to fast!!” And blatantly ignore what the other side is experiencing.
I just think an alternative objective would be one way to fix this, but there’s so many ways to go about it, it’s difficult to understand without miscommunication.
Thank you. I've never heard the term before. Interesting, Makes me think of the giant straw men that olden time people would burn to ward off spirits or celebrate certain things.
That is the curse of text. Context is up to the reader, and here... well alot of people are used to hostile replies.
Map reworking would help with map pressure I think, but alot.... at least half the roster (if not more) of Killers have bad map pressure. It's a big issue, and one that is.... made worse by Survivors that bring things to focus utterly on the gens, cause they know they can get away with focusing on them.
The weaker Killers need a buff to help them deal with this kinda thing. I'm sure MOST survivors would be happy to see a Clown or a Wraith at higher ranks, or Legion (who i'm most fond of). Trapper could even come out to play seriously for once.
If the buff was not enough (cause as far as i can see it, the buff NEEDS to happen. I could be wrong but bleh) then the Devs could look into a second objective for Survivors, or even implement them at the same time. Perhaps gas cans?
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@jeyers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763654#Comment_763654
Now you're being dishonest, and trying to argue using logical fallacies by moving the goalpost.
Nothing in his post said anything about it being the 1st hook, you just made that up.
Very dishonest and not a good way of discussing.
Like your post. Like all of your posts. Like LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU SAY till some one proves you wrong.
Don't bother talking to me either. You bash killers till you are proven wrong then slink off to make a new post about Killers being bad or OP. Whatever man. I'm smart enough to know you will legit NEVER listen to anyone. So, brick wall that gives survivors a bad name, Don't bother talking to me, as I will now ignore you.
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Anything for Legion? Then I can credit you in my "Rework Legion" thread if it keeps the Rush Down Playstyle.
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@Watery said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763776#Comment_763776
It’s not always the players fault, though. Some killers like clown don’t have good map pressure.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763778#Comment_763778
Don’t straw man what I’m saying. There’s plenty of ways this problem could be gone about but you can’t punish survivors for doing their objective, you can’t. You CAN however buff killer map pressure. Extending gen times would make survivor feel like more of a chore than it could be, especially with the aggressive play style being pushed for.
I think gen rush is a symptom of a more major survivor side issue, the lack of alternative objectives. If we had something else to do other than generators we wouldn’t have this issue.
What does "Straw man" mean? I'm just literally telling you how I feel.
If it's the second thing, then sorry if i've been told by every survivor ever (okay just most, there are decent and nice survivors) to "JUST USSSEEEE MORE MAP PREUSSSSUREEE" so I assumed you were doing the same.
I wouldn't punish survivors for doing what they are supposed to. Where is the bloody sense in that?
I want them to buff up lower tier Killers so there is more Survivors have to deal with other that Miss WAAAHHHH and Miss BLINK. (like Legion for example. It's why i have a 6 page long "Rework Legion" Thread)
I feel we both assumed what the other meant there. We should stop that. A secondary objective would be rather neat. Just not sure what it could be.
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Woo, this turned into a crap shoot.
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@WickedKatz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763432#Comment_763432
I takes 80 seconds to complete a gen on your own, and that is without ruin. In that scenario you would patrol one gen, chase one survivor and kill him, and if the survivor stayed on the gen you would have multiple hooks, which is a pretty favorable situation to the killer, so you would sacrifice a gen to win the match, or else no gens would pop and the survivors would be busy healing. Also, perks like Corrupt, Pop goes the weasel, surveillance and tinkerer help you apply pressure on the correct spots of the map, so the only thing holding you back is skill
Don't bother talking to me. You are a brick wall with an attitude and I value my sanity enough not to bother.
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@Watery said:
There’s a difference between doing an objective and not enjoying playing against a certain killer. Also, if you get gen rushed, that’s usually the product of bad map pressure. Plus, holding M1 for 80 or so seconds is super boring.
Yes, cause I can be in four places at once and protect every gen always. /s
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I honestly am bored to tears if I get Gen rushed as Killer. I'll go open the gate for them an everything. Get outta my match so I can have a fun one without people that just want to "GO GO GO GO GO GEN GEN GEN GEN"
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@Jb94 said:
Not a legion main, but I do miss going fast as ######### boyyyy. As a killer, leigon should excel in mobility at the expense of lethality. As things stand they're not quite mobile enough to justify how very very non-lethal they are.
Around half the addons need to be reworked--ie. The idea of inflicting status effects on a second hit isn't bad, they just chose some of the leat useful ones possible. Mangled and broken are baffling choices given the context of leigons power. Inflicting exhaustion on the other hand would counter dead hard/balanced which would actually validate the time taken to land a second hit and actually be a scary thing to face (though also very avoidable).
Good add on ideas
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@QuentinxJake said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/93454/a-simple-idea-for-legion-rework-buff-you-decide
This is just a stupid idea i got from this don't know how but what if you could chose to play the members as a survivor and killer how funny would that be xD
Um, I'm not sure that would make sense... as the Legion is a Killer group.
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@Raptorrotas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/762658#Comment_762658
I dont know which side you're regularily playing, nor is it important for the topic of this discussion, but honest to the entity,
Have you ever met a survivor caring if the killer has/had fun?
I play Killer. Also I don't know, but i've met nice survivors.
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@jeyers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763454#Comment_763454
So you don't think or agree that walking far away, all the way to the other side of a map from where the gens are should lose you that gen ?
This is why its pointless discussing with killer mains. They just want an easy win no matter what they do.
No, I want to have a good, back and forth match and not a stomp either way. It's about pointless talking to you cause it's like talking to a brick wall.
What he meant was First hook of the game or any hook, you look over and see them WAY OVER THERE, so What are you gonna do? You are just screwed. He didn't say "willingly leaving the gens" or anything. Why are you putting words in people's mouth?
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OHhhh i thought they meant that survivors could just "Boop" a gen back to being not regressing anymore.... welp never mind.
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763486#Comment_763486
railgun doc is only useful at defending totems longrange. Using the green range addon pretty much kills your antiloop potential with your shock.
I just use it for giggles
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@Wubsyy__ said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/762268#Comment_762268
As a survivor main, you should get over yourself. It really shouldn't be the killer's concern if me and my swf has fun, it should be on us to try and play against the killer to the best of our ability. Why you think it's a bad thing for the killer to want to kill survivors is beyond me, honestly
This.
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@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763352#Comment_763352
The duration addons are so good for him. Duration + Full map TR is my favourite combo on them. But yeah most addons are useless. xD
Duration and recovery speed. Only two worth it! Rulers and sketch books for DAYS!
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@Oshirigami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/763403#Comment_763403
Do you think posting that changes that thousands of people ARE having severe issues?
https://www.twitch.tv/kittychipz/clip/UgliestTacitCrabsWutFace?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time This sort of crap happens on p2p, but at least you get warned of the killer having red ping. On dedicated servers it shows you p ing to the server as green, yet this happens anyway.
Why did you single them out? No need to be rude