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@The_Manlet said:
Survivors absolutely need some form of buff to their bloodpoint gains. Killers get lots of BP, especially with BBQ and Chili which half of them would run even without the BP bonus, so running it is a no brainer. Meanwhile survivors get very little BP unless it's a perfect game, WGLF gives no advantage and is a wasted slot used to reduce grind, and on top of that getting 4 WGLF tokens practically requires you spend all game unhooking, getting your team killed and generally not contributing. Killers will get 4 BBQ tokens most matches so long as they are trying to do so.

It isn't true that WGLF encourages altruism. What is encourages is for everyone to divebomb the hook and make suicidal saves that will likely get their teammate killed or at the very least nobody is working on generators because they know the only way to make decent BP gains (or pip) is to do unhooks.

There is a difference in the survivor and killer BP gain. Because survivors can get a new match, when they die quickly, while the killer is stuck with the survivors until they all die or leave.
It´s way easier to get WGLF tokens than BBQ tokens. And not a single killer would use BBQ if they remove the bonus BPs.
Catching 4 loopers is way harder than standing in front of a hook, when someone is about to get hooked.

in We're gonna live forever needs buffs Comment by Tsulan June 19, 2018

They really need more mods.

in Lots of spam Comment by Tsulan June 18, 2018

@Runiver said:

@Tsulan said:

@Runiver said:
Gatekeeper : why not.
Malicious : I believe we already talked about that, but what you lose in malicious, you gain in chase.
Chaser : not a real problem except for MM

Lightbringer : I heavily disagree. Points should being split up. Grouping up shouldn't generator more points, as a solo survivor actually doing more work than 2 people would actually get penalized with less points even tho he spent more time repairing, which is stupid.
Unbroken : Fine as it is considering most rounds are super short anyway
Evader : Fine as it is considering the genrush meta going on. It makes people to want to take risks and evaluate, which is a good thing. Unless you want even more gen rushing that is.

Malicious: Switching one emblem for another makes no sense. Since a perfect play requires 3 emblems to be iridiscent and the last one gold. All emblems should be equally easy or hard to obtain.
Right now the easiest way to pip is to tunnel and to camp. Both things are considered unfun.

Lightbringer: right now working together on a gen gives bonus BPs but fewer Emblem points. That´s not intuitive at all. Since the additional points suggest that the players are doing the right thing to get the emblem, while they do the exact opposite

Evader: what has being rewarded for playing stealthy to do with gen rush?
The only way to have even more gen rushing, would be to bring 4 toolboxes + BNP.
But the time it takes right now to do all 5 gens is simply to short.

Malicious : Hard to tell, some killers are better at chasing than others, so that statement is weird to begin with.

Lightbringer : I don't mind if it's not intuitive. You shouldn't penalize people that repair solo over ppl that repair as a group.

Evader : it's pretty simple, it will allow super quick rounds (aka BNPs, and strong toolboxes) to borderline double pip with 0 efforts, which is the opposite of what devs actually wanted doing this emblem, since they want to reward interactions with the killer, where the actual skill matters (and you can stealth while interacting with the killer, and that's why it rewards points to be in the TR), not to give Iri emblems to that guy that did stand at the opposite of the map the whole round because one guy of his team is able to loop for 5mins, and will very likely depip from that, which would make 0 sense.

Chaser: With the current system. A chase is considered over, even if the killer sees the survivor and is running in the direction of the survivor. Slower killers, or those that rely on traps or stalk are penalized. A survivor who steps into a beartrap doesn´t get the killer chase points.

Lightbringer: it´s not penalizing. Right now, survivors which work together on a gen are penalized. This makes no sense. Working as a team is penalized. It shouldn´t be like this.

Evader: but that´s exactly what the name implies. The survivor avoided all contact with the killer. He evaded him. Right now the emblem should be renamed to "looper" because that playstyle gets the most points in this emblem. The guy who looped the killer for 5 minutes gets way more points than the guy who evaded the killer. Maybe increase the radius to make it count, or increase the numbers. But i don´t want to run behind the killer, in the hope to get some evader points. Because then i´m searching the confrontation instead of evading.

in Emblems Comment by Tsulan June 16, 2018

@Runiver said:
Gatekeeper : why not.
Malicious : I believe we already talked about that, but what you lose in malicious, you gain in chase.
Chaser : not a real problem except for MM

Lightbringer : I heavily disagree. Points should being split up. Grouping up shouldn't generator more points, as a solo survivor actually doing more work than 2 people would actually get penalized with less points even tho he spent more time repairing, which is stupid.
Unbroken : Fine as it is considering most rounds are super short anyway
Evader : Fine as it is considering the genrush meta going on. It makes people to want to take risks and evaluate, which is a good thing. Unless you want even more gen rushing that is.

Malicious: Switching one emblem for another makes no sense. Since a perfect play requires 3 emblems to be iridiscent and the last one gold. All emblems should be equally easy or hard to obtain.
Right now the easiest way to pip is to tunnel and to camp. Both things are considered unfun.

Lightbringer: right now working together on a gen gives bonus BPs but fewer Emblem points. That´s not intuitive at all. Since the additional points suggest that the players are doing the right thing to get the emblem, while they do the exact opposite

Evader: what has being rewarded for playing stealthy to do with gen rush?
The only way to have even more gen rushing, would be to bring 4 toolboxes + BNP.
But the time it takes right now to do all 5 gens is simply to short.

in Emblems Comment by Tsulan June 16, 2018

@aufovsky said:
Lightbringer : main issue is that points are splitted.

Unbroken is okay

Benevolent : its bad for me cus u dont get points when u unhook someone near killer.

Evader : ur right in this one

I dont want to talk about killer ones cus i barerly play as a killer

BTW. You should try playing killer. If you only play survivor, you miss half of the game.

in Emblems Comment by Tsulan June 16, 2018

So you complain on one thread about a camping Freddy and then show this one?

in "so...you like tea-bagging?" Comment by Tsulan June 16, 2018

You had Self Care. Why not use it? Freddy can´t even camp properly. You gave up and stopped right under the hook. A few seconds later, the gate were powered. You could have tried to loop him. Which is especially easy on that map, because of all the windows.

You failed, because you didn´t fight.

in so...how'd you get to level 15, freddy? Comment by Tsulan June 16, 2018

@foxofthestars said:

@Piri said:
Sounds pretty neat. Would love to see people die because they fail their skillchecks

LMAO! There would be a lot of dead survivors for sure. I have played with several ppl today that consistently failed their skill checks.

in Struggling Comment by Tsulan June 16, 2018

@rezmax said:

@Broccoli_Jaeger said:
I agree. They should change it. This button spamming can't be healthy for the keyboard/controller

Then buy a keyboard with macro and problem solved.

What if you play on a laptop?

in Struggling Comment by Tsulan June 15, 2018

@McJesusBurger said:
The point behind this is, that mathieu once said the player has to know the feeling to be on the verge of dying. for some it might be annoying, for others it is to mash the space button until the last second hoping someone will get you

@rezmax said:
Yeah and the killer standing next to a survivor with Unnerving Presence to help hit the skillchecks...

I think that survivor would know the feeling of being on the verge of dying.

in Struggling Comment by Tsulan June 15, 2018

@aufovsky said:
Lightbringer : main issue is that points are splitted.

Unbroken is okay

Benevolent : its bad for me cus u dont get points when u unhook someone near killer.

Evader : ur right in this one

I dont want to talk about killer ones cus i barerly play as a killer

You still get points for Benevolent if you unhook with BT.

in Emblems Comment by Tsulan June 15, 2018

@Shadoureon said:
I main survivor and I simply think the perk is too strong. But at the same time I do think killers need this perk at the moment. Its just simply that the perk isnt beeing used for what the devs had in mind I think. They wanted killers to see survivors and go to them to avoid quickly completion of generators but instead killers use it to see how many are far away and if they can use it as an excuse to camp.

I started to level Leatherface yesterday so I only played 3 matched with BBQ and Chilli and today I got called a camper because I only saw 1 aura after hooking the first survivor so I stayed close knowing there were 2 survivors nearby. I think I was justified to stay but at the same time I understand its annoying for the person on the hook.

I dont think the perk needs changing but id rather see Were Gonna Live Forever get the same type of treatment but reversed. That the person who unhooks and the person who got unhooked sees the killer aura within 16/24/32m for 4 seconds.

I think both perks will be roughly the same providing aura reading and bonus experience and gives the the unhooked survivor more chance to get away while giving the killer more intetentive to actually go for those who he could read.

The logical buff for WGLF would be that survivors can see the killer if he´s at least 52/46/40 meters away.

Killers using BBQ only camp, because they can´t see the auras. Basically survivors do everything to sabotage the only reason the killer has to leave the hook.

in BBQ and Chilli Comment by Tsulan June 14, 2018

Yeah it´s ridiculous. No point in playing good.

in Emblem bonus lol Comment by Tsulan June 13, 2018

@steezo_de said:

@Tsulan said:
How many BP are awarded? Trying to figure out if its worth my time.

25k for survivor. 25k for killer. Takes about 5 minutes.

good to know

in About the Tutorial Comment by Tsulan June 13, 2018

How many BP are awarded? Trying to figure out if its worth my time.

in About the Tutorial Comment by Tsulan June 13, 2018

Ranks don´t matter. If you make disconnecters lose a complete rank per disconnect, you´ll even do them a favor. Since they prefer to be low rank to bully newbie killers.

Introduce a disconnect fee for people who do it regularly. Make them not only lose the BPs they won during the match, but also Points they saved up. Make them lose Iridiscent shards aswell. They´ll think twice before disconnecting.

in Please have Rage Quitting Survivors De-Pip TWICE MINIMUM Comment by Tsulan June 13, 2018

@Boss said:
Nothing has changed about enjoyability in one small but oh so important area: Disconnects.
They are rampant, they are common, they are frequent & they do not go unpunished cause...well, just that, they don't get punished.

This is the average of what happened to me today...

Lobbies get filled with Survivors who either have blood, are in SWF or both, and a few Survivors without either.
Guess who don't disconnect? The Survivors without either blood or SWF.

Players are supposed to have fun, no? Where's the fun that i'm supposed to have in this? "Oops, i failed. Better DC from that Hook/Mori."

Oh yeah, side-note: Remove the ability for Survivors to quit out during Mori animations while also making it impossible to interrupt the Mori animation as Killer. It's only a few seconds, they can spare those. And yes, i realize they can still pull the plug, but that's kinda unsolvable, so at least do that. Then make it so the Killer can't stop the Mori so they can't spam the beginning animation.

I remember the developers saying they mostly want the game to be fun.
That's great and all, but what's not enjoyable about the game will stand out. And this stands out greatly to me, and for longer than just today.

They need to address a lot of things to make the game enjoyable for killers. 6 weeks to go, until the mid season patch that´s supposed to make things right.
But honestly, when i look at the way the devs solve problems... i wouldn´t bet on it.
Disconnecting doesn´t get punished. Check
Cheaters can´t be reported: Check
Game is unbalanced towards survivors: Check
Pretty good job: Check

PS: i don´t understand why you got flagged as spam. People don´t even understand what the flags mean.

in Yay, Version 2.0! But... Comment by Tsulan June 13, 2018

@EpicFailTryHard said:
quit camping/tunneling

Freddy can camp?

in Yay, Version 2.0! But... Comment by Tsulan June 13, 2018

@mintchapstick said:

@Tsulan said:

@mintchapstick said:

@Tsulan said:
The problem is not only the hook. Once the gates are open, the survivors block the killer, so het can´t down the injured survivor. Since they get a speed burst, they can easily take rounds at protecting the injured.

There´s not really much the killer can do.

Yeah, damn those people working as a team in a 4 vs 1 game.

Hold on...

When the team sucks = "give me my free escape, because it´s not fair that i get punished because my team sucks"
When the team wins = "yeah we are supposed to work as a team, that´s why we win"

Find the error.

It's funny that you bring that up, because my original reply to you was:

You think survivors should work as a team and should be held accountable as a team, and then you whine when they do. Is there literally any winning with you? Should all survivors just stand still & die for you?

You think only in extremes. If the loops get nerfed "killers want us to run in straight lines", if i point out that survivors want to have free escapes despite losing as a team: " should all survivors just stand still and die?"

DbD is a asymmetrical game, where 4 people should be weaker than 1 killer. With the current perk and item meta, survivors are able to 1vs1 the killer. Which is broken.
Devs struggle to balance the game and give in to survivor complains.
Camping was a planned feature (!) for the killer gameplay. Survivors didn´t like it, so the devs introduced BT. Which created unfair situations. They did the same at addressing slugging by introducing Unbreakable. Survivors get more and more tools which ignore or bypass the killers abillities or strengths.
Then killers complain about this unfair situation and they get told to play survivor or civ by a dev. Or in your case, that survivors should just stand still and die.

Killers want to have fun in a game (damn people who want to have fun, huh?).
But for a long time, devs only cared for the survivors fun, because they are the majority of the playerbase.
Many killer mains stopped playing. BHVR counters this trend by having a sale once a month. Attracting new players to compensate for the loss of old killers. The new players don´t know what they get into and are told to gid gud. They believe it and keep playing the clown for the entertainment of the survivors.
On top of that, devs introduced a clown as their last killer. Completing the cliche.

Every time a survivor main starts playing killer seriously, he´s shocked at how unfair the game for the killer is. How hard killers have it. There are tons of threads about this on the steam forum.
There´s not a single thread of a killer main who started playing survivor and suddenly realized how hard survivors have it.

Just this morning survivors started to call out an "exploit". Where a killer who is locked in the pickup animation, can avoid being blinded by pressing R.
A pickup animation lock, where the killer is supposed to stand still and not being able to counter a flashlight.
That´s the killers version of standing still and die.

in Hook Blocking Comment by Tsulan June 12, 2018

@Jack11803 said:

@Tsulan said:

@mintchapstick said:

@Tsulan said:
The problem is not only the hook. Once the gates are open, the survivors block the killer, so het can´t down the injured survivor. Since they get a speed burst, they can easily take rounds at protecting the injured.

There´s not really much the killer can do.

Yeah, damn those people working as a team in a 4 vs 1 game.

Hold on...

When the team sucks = "give me my free escape, because it´s not fair that i get punished because my team sucks"
When the team wins = "yeah we are supposed to work as a team, that´s why we win"

Find the error.

The difference COULD BE that one is a solo player, other is SWF, and says what they think (differently) about it. SWF is gonna want to use team to justify, as it defends SWF. Solo says team shouldn’t destroy them individually, which is correct, devs have even said so. SWF is just OP

But the situation doesn´t has to be SWF.

in Hook Blocking Comment by Tsulan June 10, 2018

@Shadowchao121 said:
In every single discussion regarding The Nurse there are plenty of people on both sides of the matter.

I understand that she takes the most skill to use but it really gets old when people say

"Her skill cap is unfathomably and inconceivably high she's so hard to play very few people can even play her right/Etc"

I genuinely want to know if everyone truly believes this or if it's more subjective. We all know she isn't easier than anyone else but it's not that difficult. Anyone who plays her for like 2 hours can do just fine.

2 Hours? 2 HOURS?!
I´ll juke every 50 hour nurse for 5 gens without looping, without breaking a sweat.
Try to play her on mid ranks against decent survivors which won´t run in a straight line. You´re in for some bullying. Newbie nurses get bullied a lot.

in The pedestal that people place The Nurse on Comment by Tsulan June 10, 2018

Well you gave the answer yourself.
Survivors use SWF to get to higher ranks than they belong.
Killers tunnel and camp those survivors to get a chance to win, since SWF is overly altruistic.

in the truth about rank. Comment by Tsulan June 10, 2018

@mintchapstick said:

@Tsulan said:
The problem is not only the hook. Once the gates are open, the survivors block the killer, so het can´t down the injured survivor. Since they get a speed burst, they can easily take rounds at protecting the injured.

There´s not really much the killer can do.

Yeah, damn those people working as a team in a 4 vs 1 game.

Hold on...

When the team sucks = "give me my free escape, because it´s not fair that i get punished because my team sucks"
When the team wins = "yeah we are supposed to work as a team, that´s why we win"

Find the error.

in Hook Blocking Comment by Tsulan June 10, 2018

Every time someone complains about camping, i´m tempted to link them to a thread where they complain about BBQ and vice versa.

in tydetyme june 9th, 2018 Comment by Tsulan June 9, 2018

@Master said:

@Tsulan said:
I wonder how many survivors complained about the camper, while they were sitting in the grass, next to the hook. Waiting for the killer to leave.

Usually its the SWF toxic boys who click at me and force me to stand within 1 meter radius from my victum. I hate these games and I really dont know why the killer has nothing he can do in such situations (besides from giving a free unhook and earning nothing)

This represents the situation perfectly:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=arEkqdiMKNI

in Is it okay to report campers? Comment by Tsulan June 9, 2018

@Tsulan said:
That button was miss used anyway.

I just love how that message got 3 times flagged.
Irony at it´s best.

in Thx for removing the down vote button! Comment by Tsulan June 9, 2018

I wonder how many survivors complained about the camper, while they were sitting in the grass, next to the hook. Waiting for the killer to leave.

in Is it okay to report campers? Comment by Tsulan June 9, 2018

@RemoveSWF said:

@Tsulan said:
Also, tunnel is a made up word for the killer going for the easiest prey.

Aren't all words technically "made up words"?

According to the Urban Dictionary:

Tunnel
to inhale a lit roach clip through the anus
"Is he tunneling that joint?" "No, it's a cigarette."

"I''ll tunnel it if you tunnel it." "BUT WE ONLY HAVE ONE CLIP!!" "So, i'll tunnel it, pop it out after like a minute, then you tunnel it." "Every time we do this, your ######### goes everywhere, and I'm the one who has to tunnel the mess!"

"Dude, i havent stopped shitting blood since I tunneled that blunt."" "Yeah, that was awesome."