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@fcc2014 said:
@Tsulan said:
So... all the people complaining and overreacting that it will come out late...
Do they feel dumb, relieved, sorry, happy or a mix of all?I don't give a [BAD WORD] about the chapter. I think it is weak and i'm not buying ######### out of the store. I just wanted the shard cap removed and the ability to find a lobby. So know i don't feel dumb because if pc was the last to get it and was stuck in limbo for 3 weeks you cry babies would need counseling.
Then why did you guys rage so hard?!
We had threats, insults, some guy stalking Not_Queen on her private stream, calls for money compensations, etc. All while the devs still were within their deadline. -
So... all the people complaining and overreacting that it will come out late...
Do they feel dumb, relieved, sorry, happy or a mix of all? -
Told you so.
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@JammyJewels said:
Tsulan said:@JammyJewels said:
So if it does not come out today or tomorrow (everyone's been prophesizing today to be the day) will you then allow us to complain? Because then our complaints will be justified.
F.Y.I I think what others are doing is horrible and I'd hate seeing this kind of negative behaviour lead @not_Queen leave. She, for all that I can discern, has no part in the implementation of balance/new features and merely manages the community and plays the game herself. None of the developers deserve hate. Hell, I saw one thread asking if they "deserve Canada day". Like, are you for real?! I hope it calms down. This could all be damaging to the staff's mental state...
Of course i will. I´ll even join you and support you.
Because THEN it´s actually justified.
I'm glad to hear a PC player who hasn't acted entitled and is actually understanding of the situation. Please. Spread whatever this lovely illness you have so that all of us can actually speak together about important problems.
It´s called Empathy. And no, i cant see injured survivors through walls.
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@fcc2014 said:
Tsulan said:When I look at all the hate threads from the console players, which insult, harass, stalk staff on their free time, and ask for compensations for a slightly delighted patch. I really feel sorry for behavior.
They clearly have improved over the last month's. They don't deserve all the hate.Console patches go through extra instances. Microsoft and Sony have their own quality control. Which makes the patches come out later.
But somehow people feel like this was the end of the world, and act accordingly.Guys, just be patient.
Created a topic to ######### about people bitching.
And you ######### about bitching because people #########.
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@JammyJewels said:
@Tsulan
So if it does not come out today or tomorrow (everyone's been prophesizing today to be the day) will you then allow us to complain? Because then our complaints will be justified.F.Y.I I think what others are doing is horrible and I'd hate seeing this kind of negative behaviour lead @not_Queen leave. She, for all that I can discern, has no part in the implementation of balance/new features and merely manages the community and plays the game herself. None of the developers deserve hate. Hell, I saw one thread asking if they "deserve Canada day". Like, are you for real?! I hope it calms down. This could all be damaging to the staff's mental state...
Of course i will. I´ll even join you and support you.
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Pc players complain about balance issues.Might_Oakk said:Lol like pc player don't complain for no reason non stop also.
Quit being a douche trying to bait arguments. Steam is pc forum, go there. Or you could get a life.
Which should worry console players as well.
Why are you telling me, where I should post? Have I told you to go to a console forum?
You are the one baiting now. -
You are right. But some people are just going to far. This is why i opened this thread.
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@Runiver said:
@Tsulan said:
@Runiver said:
The unified forums lead to what was to expect from a company's failure when it comes to Balance, Fairness, Lack of competence and Communication.Full on Toxicity, similarly to all other forums. The Positivity attempt was good at its release, now we're back to the usual state of deception for the game considering it fails to meet the requirements of decency.
But it´s sad how far people are going because of this.
That's what happens when people are really commited and passionate about a game. That's also what you have to expect when you make a game with the sole purpose of becoming addicted, and then cuck people on a daily basis about pretty much everything due to pure incompetence and lack of planning/prediction.
At the moment for example, we hosted a not_Queen giveway (official BHVR) on our discord. We asked her to have some kind of announcement so we don't look like a shady discord trying to look for "attention" using her name. She went full MIA. We did the giveaway nonetheless, got heavily criticized.
Now, the giveway is over for 3-4 days. We're still waiting for a response from her, and we look like jackasses. People are (obviously) going on her stream to ask for what is going to happen, and she just answers that she's not talking about work on stream.
It's understandable, in a sense, but nothing stops her from taking 20 seconds to make an announcement, coming around on discord, saying she'll take care of it when she'll be able to.Mhhh i know about the giveaway, but wasn´t aware of the issue with it.
This seems really bad. Maybe she had orders to not comment on anything.
We´ll see in a few days. -
Leatherface = Läderlappen
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@Runiver said:
The unified forums lead to what was to expect from a company's failure when it comes to Balance, Fairness, Lack of competence and Communication.Full on Toxicity, similarly to all other forums. The Positivity attempt was good at its release, now we're back to the usual state of deception for the game considering it fails to meet the requirements of decency.
But it´s sad how far people are going because of this.
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@ThePloopz said:
Tsulan said:@ThePloopz said:
Tsulan said:
@ThePloopz said: Tsulan said:
@ThePloopz said: Tsulan said:
ThePloopz said: Tsulan said: Tizzle said: Shards on console have been capped at 1k since early June with the same perks in the shrine. PS4 players will not get the double bloodpoint event without an update. I'd say the complaints are justified. Has a dev confirmed that you won't get the double BPs weekend? I heard they can’t do it without a patch idk how true that is though So the uncle of the neighbor of the brother of your coworkers aunt has confirmed that you won't get the bp weekend.
That's a trustworthy source. Did you even read what I said because your comment makes 0 sense Yeah, you heard from SOMEONE not official that they won´t do it. Unless you get an official statement, that confirms or denies the event, there is nothing final.
No that’s not what I said learn to read You said you heard they need a patch. But you don´t know if its true. Thats basically hearsay.
Yes that’s what I said but you couldn’t understand that at first apparently because someone who can’t do something is much different than someone who won’t do it. Also if someone adds “idk how true that is” then obviously it’s meant to be taken with a grain of salt but you probably couldn’t understand that either.
That´s like a coworker who claims that he heard that the new coworker is a [BAD WORD], but doesn´t know if it´s true.
It´s hearsay, it´s not reliant. There is no proof. But it will ruin the reputation of the new coworker.
No if a take it with a grain of salt situation happens, whoever believes it that’s on them. You just came in with the mindset of trying to disprove whatever I was going to say, you started to make no sense and I called you out on it and now you’re trying to cover it up. That’s all this is
People are raging because their free update is arriving within the expected date (2-3 weeks).
There is no reason to rage at the devs because of this.
The forum is full of threads where people ask for money compensation. Do you think people should be payed for waiting until the announced date?
Or where one got so far to stalk and insult Not_Queen on her PRIVATE stream, and then complain about it.
Do you think that´s a normal behavior?Would you like it, if people ask you in your spare time, why your company isn´t doing this and that, and even insult you?
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@popoles said:
Tsulan said:@popoles said:
Tsulan said:
@popoles said: @Tsulan And the purpose of this thread? You want to start another salty thread, don't you? Naah, i was just expressing how sad i find it, how the devs get a lot of toxic comments. For something they have no control over. Also, the devs said between 2 and 3 weeks. Today ends the deadline. Once the deadline passed, people can start to complain. But complain before the announced deadline passed? That´s just childish.
I agree, but it's not like this situation is completely out of their hands. They got rejected because there was a bug or something.
Well, the bug was not intentional. Those might slip through the quality control.
That´s also why they explained from the start. That the release of the patch could be somewhere in the next 2-3 weeks. So far they didn´t lie. Unexpected things happen.
People are used to get everything they want, whenever they want. But unexpected things happen and can delay deadlines. We are all human beings, and there is no one who never made a mistake. But people act like it.
But understanding the frustration won't hurt anyone though. The clown is available for playing for about a month now, but they've got no chance. When I consider this, I can see why they are not satisfied with the current situation.
To be honest. They don´t miss much. People barely play the clown. I had a clown as killer in 1 of 30 matches.
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@popoles said:
Tsulan said:@popoles said:
And the purpose of this thread?
You want to start another salty thread, don't you?
Naah, i was just expressing how sad i find it, how the devs get a lot of toxic comments. For something they have no control over.
Also, the devs said between 2 and 3 weeks. Today ends the deadline. Once the deadline passed, people can start to complain. But complain before the announced deadline passed?
That´s just childish.
I agree, but it's not like this situation is completely out of their hands. They got rejected because there was a bug or something.
Well, the bug was not intentional. Those might slip through the quality control.
That´s also why they explained from the start. That the release of the patch could be somewhere in the next 2-3 weeks. So far they didn´t lie. Unexpected things happen.
People are used to get everything they want, whenever they want. But unexpected things happen and can delay deadlines. We are all human beings, and there is no one who never made a mistake. But people act like it. -
@ThePloopz said:
Tsulan said:@ThePloopz said:
Tsulan said:
@ThePloopz said: Tsulan said:
ThePloopz said: Tsulan said: Tizzle said: Shards on console have been capped at 1k since early June with the same perks in the shrine. PS4 players will not get the double bloodpoint event without an update. I'd say the complaints are justified. Has a dev confirmed that you won't get the double BPs weekend? I heard they can’t do it without a patch idk how true that is though So the uncle of the neighbor of the brother of your coworkers aunt has confirmed that you won't get the bp weekend.
That's a trustworthy source. Did you even read what I said because your comment makes 0 sense Yeah, you heard from SOMEONE not official that they won´t do it. Unless you get an official statement, that confirms or denies the event, there is nothing final.
No that’s not what I said learn to read
You said you heard they need a patch. But you don´t know if its true.
Thats basically hearsay.
Yes that’s what I said but you couldn’t understand that at first apparently because someone who can’t do something is much different than someone who won’t do it. Also if someone adds “idk how true that is” then obviously it’s meant to be taken with a grain of salt but you probably couldn’t understand that either.
That´s like a coworker who claims that he heard that the new coworker is a #########, but doesn´t know if it´s true.
It´s hearsay, it´s not reliant. There is no proof. But it will ruin the reputation of the new coworker. -
Naah, i was just expressing how sad i find it, how the devs get a lot of toxic comments. For something they have no control over.
Also, the devs said between 2 and 3 weeks. Today ends the deadline. Once the deadline passed, people can start to complain. But complain before the announced deadline passed?
That´s just childish. -
Ask mom what's for dinnerLowbei said:Mom said to stop fighting. -
@ThePloopz said:
Tsulan said:@ThePloopz said:
Tsulan said:
ThePloopz said: Tsulan said: Tizzle said: Shards on console have been capped at 1k since early June with the same perks in the shrine. PS4 players will not get the double bloodpoint event without an update. I'd say the complaints are justified. Has a dev confirmed that you won't get the double BPs weekend? I heard they can’t do it without a patch idk how true that is though So the uncle of the neighbor of the brother of your coworkers aunt has confirmed that you won't get the bp weekend.
That's a trustworthy source.
Did you even read what I said because your comment makes 0 sense
Yeah, you heard from SOMEONE not official that they won´t do it.
Unless you get an official statement, that confirms or denies the event, there is nothing final.
No that’s not what I said learn to read
You said you heard they need a patch. But you don´t know if its true.
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@ThePloopz said:
Tsulan said:
ThePloopz said:
Tsulan said:
Tizzle said:Shards on console have been capped at 1k since early June with the same perks in the shrine.
PS4 players will not get the double bloodpoint event without an update.
I'd say the complaints are justified.
Has a dev confirmed that you won't get the double BPs weekend?
I heard they can’t do it without a patch idk how true that is though
So the uncle of the neighbor of the brother of your coworkers aunt has confirmed that you won't get the bp weekend.
That's a trustworthy source.Did you even read what I said because your comment makes 0 sense
Yeah, you heard from SOMEONE not official that they won´t do it.
Unless you get an official statement, that confirms or denies the event, there is nothing final. -
So the uncle of the neighbor of the brother of your coworkers aunt has confirmed that you won't get the bp weekend.ThePloopz said:
I heard they can’t do it without a patch idk how true that is thoughTsulan said:
Has a dev confirmed that you won't get the double BPs weekend?Tizzle said:Shards on console have been capped at 1k since early June with the same perks in the shrine.
PS4 players will not get the double bloodpoint event without an update.
I'd say the complaints are justified.
That's a trustworthy source. -
Has a dev confirmed that you won't get the double BPs weekend?Tizzle said:Shards on console have been capped at 1k since early June with the same perks in the shrine.
PS4 players will not get the double bloodpoint event without an update.
I'd say the complaints are justified.
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Balance issues =/= a later release date.Dr_doom_j2 said:This has become such a toxic topic. As ps4 players, not only do we typically get the short end when it comes to balance, not only are we the last to get these patches when they come, but we aren't ever allowed to VOICE OUR OPINIONS AND UPSETS in regards to all this.
@Tsulan kindly stfu sir. I hate to directly call BS on you, but I have been reading many of your messages from here and back on the steam forums for the greater part of a year. Most of what you have to say is ######### talking BHVR and their bad balance decisions, ######### talking others for their support of Bruce's balance decisions, Etc.for someone who has so many complaints against bhvr, now you come into a thread that doesn't even kind of concern you, and tell everyone they're entitled for wanting balance to an unfair situation?
Also I never asked money compensations like you guys did.
So asking for 1000 auric cells or 12000 iridescent shards seems normal for a slightly later release date? Where the worst bugs have been eliminated after pc users suffered them.
You guys never cease to amaze me. -
The problem with the Pig was, that during the dev stream, which wasn't even a full week before the release on Xbox, they didn't explain details about the upcoming chapter.lasombra1979 said:@Tsulan said:
I can't believe the entitlement of some people.
You are getting the patch a little later. So what?!
You're not going to die if you get to farm a little later.You mean how the PC crowd went insane when the Pig was released a day early on Xbox. I highly remember the demands of compensation from the PC crowd when that happened. Personally, I dont care if they offer us something. I want them to fix their bugged patch so it can pass certification.
People shouldn't demand auric cells or iridescent shards for waiting a few days.
They didn't pay for anything in advance. -
Well you get to play God of War. And all those other exclusive games that come to ps4 only.KING_DEDE said:
I won't see those on PC. -
I can't believe the entitlement of some people.
You are getting the patch a little later. So what?!
You're not going to die if you get to farm a little later.
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I had 3 speedhackers in the last 2 days.
This is getting out of hand.Killers and survivors speedhacking
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But why? People should be able to save points.ceridwen309 said:If the limit was removed....I believe the blood web should be expanded with new items/add-on/offerings with higher values.
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No, it's not.Demonsouls1993 said:@Dabrownman1812 said:
Any thoughts on removing the cap for blood points? This would give players an incentive to play similar to the new shard system so they can stock up for future content. What if peeps want to get the 6 new teachable asap?the BP system is fine
It's antiquated.
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They don't decide when a console patch goes through.fcc2014 said:They can't get patches pushed through and we don't even have a real reporting system. You are asking for a lot.
Report system was probably removed due to countless false reports like: camping, tunnelling, farming, 3 gen strategy, using certain killers or perks, etc.
They are probably working on something. But should share their progress or at least a approximate timetable with the community.
So people know when they can expect something. -
What a surprise that spam bots don't answer...Thatbrownmonster said:@Esheon said:
Maybe they're waiting for the past few winners to respond to the email saying they won?/runs off to check email...
Damnprobably, and guess what
not one of them answered! -
Ups... didn't notice.Jack11803 said:@Tsulan said:
What you experience is called latency. Also every killer has the same hit range, but it can look longer because of the height.Face camping doesn't exist anymore. It was removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
What you describe is hard camping.Funny how you got forum latency when you said that
But this proves my point
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What you experience is called latency. Also every killer has the same hit range, but it can look longer because of the height.
Face camping doesn't exist anymore. It was removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
What you describe is hard camping. -
What you experience is called latency. Also every killer has the same hit range, but it can look longer because of the height.
Face camping doesn't exist anymore. It was removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
What you describe is hard camping. -
How about an option to select the level of the daily. We've all seen the level 3 dailies, which took a lot of time, but payed off well enough.
Now we have level 1 dailies, which can be completed in 1 match.
A slider to choose the level of the daily would adapt them to everyone's play style.
If a casual player wants easy and short dailies, he can choose so.
If a experienced player wants a hardcore daily (like kill 5 survivors with your own hands, open 10 exit gates, etc) than he should be able to choose so and get rewarded accordingly. -
@Shadoureon said:
@Tsulan said:
@Shadoureon said:
@Tsulan said:
I´ll never understand why survivors complain about BBQ.
A perk made to reduce camping. It really seems like survivors enjoy being camped.
Sorry, i can´t take anyone serious who complains about BBQ.It shouldnt be a perks job to give truesight and make you not camp. If you let BBQ and Chilli be the only reason to not camp you just suck as a killer.
It shouldn´t be a perks job to get off the killers shoulder. If you let DS be the only reason to escape, then you just suck as survivor.
Maybe would be a valid argument if it wasnt for you using it against someone who doesnt use DS
Good! At least 1 decent person.
But BBQ isn´t really a problem. There are many ways to avoid it.
It was introduced, because survivors complained about campers.
Now those very same survivors complain about BBQ.
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@Thaznar said:
I am not a fan of aura reading perks. Job of the killer is to track survivors, killers already have enough abilities to do so even without any perks. I am fine with auditory ques also Whispers. This new emphasis on aura reading makes little to no sense to me.@Tsulan said:
@Shadoureon said:
@Tsulan said:
I´ll never understand why survivors complain about BBQ.
A perk made to reduce camping. It really seems like survivors enjoy being camped.
Sorry, i can´t take anyone serious who complains about BBQ.It shouldnt be a perks job to give truesight and make you not camp. If you let BBQ and Chilli be the only reason to not camp you just suck as a killer.
It shouldn´t be a perks job to get off the killers shoulder. If you let DS be the only reason to escape, then you just suck as survivor.
You do realize that DS will be nerfed into the ground soon? So your reasoning is not valid anymore, everyone knows DS had to go at one point,
Until the changes are live, my argument still stands.
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@Shadoureon said:
@Tsulan said:
I´ll never understand why survivors complain about BBQ.
A perk made to reduce camping. It really seems like survivors enjoy being camped.
Sorry, i can´t take anyone serious who complains about BBQ.It shouldnt be a perks job to give truesight and make you not camp. If you let BBQ and Chilli be the only reason to not camp you just suck as a killer.
It shouldn´t be a perks job to get off the killers shoulder. If you let DS be the only reason to escape, then you just suck as survivor.
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I´ll never understand why survivors complain about BBQ.
A perk made to reduce camping. It really seems like survivors enjoy being camped.
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They probably took the old form down, because people abused it to report camping, tunneling, playing Freddy, using Insidious or BBQ.
When the new form comes out, it needs to specify in big red letters what can be reported and what not.
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I always say gg. But I know what you mean. Unless the survivors could teabag at the exit gate, they rarely say gg.
They don't like to be outplayed.
Had a match as Leatherface against 2 swf with flashlights. They would blind me when there was even the slightest bit of my fov exposed.
I slowly took them down. They flashlight saved 4 times. I didn't camp or hit them on the hook.
End game chat: gg team, bg killer. Noob killer. -
Of course! Survivors would teabag him, loop him, body block him, etc.
Since that's exactly what people do in horror movies! -
@DrHermanCarter said:
@Th3Nightmare said:
I think it would be a good idea that the doctor's hallucinations instead of being "immobilized" to be more afraid, that they make a movement towards the survivor without DOING DAMAGE.It would be more incredible!
What do you think?
Great idea, but i think it would be to strong
The illusions are made to indicate the position of the Survivor. So there you can see where they are.
Thats ok.Hallucinations don´t hit you. They are not to strong. Would be the equivalent of the hags traps. Or are they to strong too?
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@Th3Nightmare said:
I think it would be a good idea that the doctor's hallucinations instead of being "immobilized" to be more afraid, that they make a movement towards the survivor without DOING DAMAGE.It would be more incredible!
What do you think?
Great idea
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@Shadoureon said:
Is the actual aura reading. You can hide from the killer all you want only to get punished by teammates that get caught. I never liked aura reading in this game. Its like using a cheat to find survivors you otherwise cant find. Specially the Wraith addons. Cant hide from that no matter what you try.Right now, survivors can hide perfectly behind gens. This shouldn´t be possible. Since it defeats the purpose of the perk. That´s why killers camp. Since they can´t see auras and have to assume that the survivors are close by.
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@brokedownpalace said:
4 seconds**3 seconds
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@Someissues said:
@TheWorldconsumer said:
I must disagree with the statement that it will "do good for killers in the long run." Because: in which way does it help the killer community to actually HAVE to play against a team of known toxic surv players?I also repeat in here my last statement: as long as you leave the lobby BEFORE the round even started- why should you be punished for it? As of now, you claimed much but proofed nothing to me to underline this aspect of your main topic.
The moment you dodge the lobby, you can pick easier opponents, as a result, getting easier games = 3/4 man wipes. = more win rate for killers. Do you think increasing the win rate for killers is a good thing? if anything it will bring Killers nerf like they did before
Dodging lobbies means the games you are meant to lose turns into a win, as a result, the balance is screwed. Do you want SWF to get balance? If so stop dodging lobbies, because at the current rate the devs show dying rate for survivors is 50% so there's no change cuz people kept dodging lobbies
The long run would kill the killer community. It is well known, that survivors are way OP. That they can bully killers with flashlights. I rarely dodge a game as killer. I get rewarded with survivors that bully me.
So
Much
Fun!I just disconnected (esc, leave match) my first game in 6 months. I never do that, but i had a fully equipped deathsquad with DS, SC, SB, purple flashlights and odd bulbs
I usually don´t dodge or disconnect. But that was simply to much. When the gates were powered, i didnt had a single hook. Not because i foolishly tried to catch the looper, but because there was always someone with a flashlight or a DS.Now when killers get punished for dodging those deathsquads, i guarantee you, that every single survivor will equip a flashlight to bully the killer. It has been like this, every time a flashlight was bugged (halloween, lunar event, etc.). Survivors are bored to death, when they play the gen repair simulator. So they start bullying the killer, to have so fun.
By the time the devs have gathered conclusive data, survivors will have a lobby que of 45+ minutes. Because no killer wants to be bullied.
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@Mringasa said:
@Tsulan said:
I have a 6mb connection. Pings are between 70 and 150 normally. Sometimes i get red pings from people from the other end of the world. Not my problem, when they click ready when they have a 500+ ping.I rarely get complaints about my connection. DbD is very forgiving when it´s about the internet speed. A ping of 200 can still play almost normal. I don´t know any other game that allows this.
You can play quite normally at 200 ping as long as it's steady. That's generally my limit for ping, and as long as it hovers from 198-202, I'm good with it. It's the ping that bounces like crazy, even after letting it settle down for load-in, that I'll generally dodge if it's over 170. I haven't played anything past 205, but I'm tempted to see what a steady ping around 250 is like.
The ping can spike in the lobby when the killer checks the profiles of the survivors.
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I have a 6mb connection. Pings are between 70 and 150 normally. Sometimes i get red pings from people from the other end of the world. Not my problem, when they click ready when they have a 500+ ping.
I rarely get complaints about my connection. DbD is very forgiving when it´s about the internet speed. A ping of 200 can still play almost normal. I don´t know any other game that allows this.
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If killers are forced to play games they don´t want to, then i hope you enjoy your 45+ minute queues as survivor. Since no one is going to play killer anymore.