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As killer it's so easy to 2 pip. Even having a poor game you can still safety pip. It's really hard to depip as killer.Damon22441 said:@The_Crusader said:
Lol what?Its already harder to pip as survivor than killer, and killers complain about queues in red ranks so.....
No, no it is not.
- In 9 minutes: Repair 2 gens, unhook 2 players— +1. (G,S,G,B)
- In 9 minutes: Repair 1 gen, unhook 3 players + heal one— +1. (S,S,I,B)
- In 9 minutes: Repair no generators, get no unhooks, but get chased for 60 seconds— -0. (-,S,B,G)
[Bronze, Silver, etc.]
I'm convinced it is impossible to depip without getting Tombstone/pieced or Mori'd in the very beginning if you so much as try an ounce, or your team throws your rank for you and lets you hang as the first hooked player or because the killer is throwing their rank with yours and face-camps.
If they had a -2 penalty (-3 to leavers), and bump the +1 requirement to 10 Emblem points while lowering the +2 from 14 to 13, I think it'd better reflect. As follows:
- 0-4 = -2
- 5-7 = -1
- 8-9 = -0 (S,S,S,S/G — what I'd consider a decently-bad game)
- 10-12 = +1
- 13+ = +2 (G,I,I,S — because Evader Stealth is a wonky category)
This way, game leavers/derankers will work their way back to 15 rapidly as they want (less thrown matches for people who actually want to play), bad players will derank until at-rank with bad killers, average players may slowly rank up until their killers are keeping at-rank, and good players won't find it difficult to get +2's against killers they are superior to and +1 for normal gameplay.
As survivor you depip if you get camped out.
You depip if the killer gets looped all game by someone else and then camps you out with Noed at the end.
Doube pipping is much harder as survivor. You need unhooks but that depends on how many hooks the killer can get, and you're competing with 3 other people for those hooks.
You need good chases. What if you get chased late though and all the pallets are gone? Or the killer is laggy and you take some bs hits?
I find I can just play the game as killer and do well. As survivor a safety or single pip can normally be managed but I feel you sometimes need to force yourself to play in a certain way to win. You cant just have your goal of doing gens and going out of the exit, you have to force yourself to rush unhooks befote the other survivors get them or purposefully get the killer to chase you. -
Some tips...
Ready up asap. I dodge people who don't ready up fast enough because too many idiots make a last second switch to a toxic loadout.
Don't have toxic in your name. I'll gladly send you back to the waiting queue.
Don't be a Squadette. -
How can you say that when people here cry to have exhaustion perks recharge while running, 16 second self-care, bloodlust gone, pallet vac back, and think free escapes like DS are perfectly balanced?Arsoul said::'( How about we nerf survivors so much that they all die in the space of 2 minutes? Though, you would probably want that nerfed to 1 min
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I have to agree. Tonight has really taken the piss. I'm fed up of being shafted by Decisive Strike.
2 survivors left, 1 gen, 1 hits a DS which gives the other time to finish the last gen then they both get Adrenaline. Don't reccomend Enduring because its not so easy to get on all killers due to the grind, plus if they use it in a strong area even Enduring isn't enough.
Its amazing just how powerful this perk can be and it feels like everyone has it. Plus the devs purposefully buffed it with this new ######### hook system so their whole talk of nerfing it was one great big lie. -
I'm not normally that fussed but yeah it's not nice when survivor queues can take minutes. Especially if there is seemingly no reason to dodge.
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Yeah it's really getting annoying.
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Wraith is meant to get the drop on survivors. He uncloaks, then zoom off. Kind of beats his power right?terrortil said:@The_Crusader said:
Maybe Sprint Burst as wellBecause man is that lame when so many people have it. Plus it really hurts any kind of killer who gets surprise attacks on survivors like Wraith or Pig.
If your surprise attack gets countered by sprint burst, it was not a surprise attack.
Also completely crioples Legion. Also defeats the purpose of Pig sneaking up on them.
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But killers don't like losing because of how toxic survivors are.Yamaoka said:You realize the developers are aiming for an average kill/escape ratio of 2 which is totally manageable especially with solid killers like Myers, don't you? You don't need to 4k every game.
If they just left that would be ok, but they don't. They'll force you to run around wasting time chasing them out while they tbag the hell out of you, or they'll have the gates open but decide they want the hatch instead because of some stupid decision where it gives you more points so you got to sit there for 5 minutes while they look for it. -
Just "the scoring is a lttle off?"Peanits said:I remember long killer queues, people farming and intentionally dying to grind out the event as fast as possible, other people just trying to play the game normally while the teammates spent the first few minutes of the match not doing the objective and instead just farming the event objective, incredibly easy 4ks, and even just trying to play killer to have people juicin' plants right in my face, expecting me to let them when I just wanted to play the game.
That's compared to: The scoring is a little off.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder, I guess. I definitely don't remember it being universally loved, and in comparison I think the problems with this event are much smaller than the ones with the old event.
Have you played solo survivor? Pretty much everyone is complaining about being left on hooks to die or being sandbagged by fellow survivors or just not managing to win any games because nobody is doing gens. -
Maybe Sprint Burst as well
Because man is that lame when so many people have it. Plus it really hurts any kind of killer who gets surprise attacks on survivors like Wraith or Pig. -
Decisive Strike - The dumbest perk in any videogame ever. It's just a toxic perk that feels extrenely frustrating for the person on the receiving end and is such bad game design it makes the entire gane look very amateur.
NOED - Like above
Adrenaline - Would be unfair to remove NOED and not Adrenaline.
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I wish they would end it early. Survivor is awful right now.
Killer barely feels any different. -
Most of the Legiond I play at least dish out the damage. They injure a few and commit to oje. Games last a while and aren't too bad.Freudentrauma said:@The_Crusader said:
doggieman said:@The_Crusader said:
@Freudentrauma said:
@Orion said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
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@MegChicken said:
Just played a match with a Legion that attacked you twice and would walk around you until you were downed. You can’t counter it, because then they hit you.
Never understood the hate, but after multiple franks mixtapes and this? 0 counterplay, and require 0 skill.
absolutely, legion should be erased, and customers that spent real money on it, compensated
Will you be the one to refund them? There are people who enjoy the Legion.
one thing is enjoying the legion as a killer, other is the ontopic thingy, extremelly un-enjoyable to play against as surv
You still haven't answered my question.
offtopic answer: obviously behaviour snould be the one to refund
i seen tons of matches with survs DCing when see killer is Susie
But why, if you're the one who wants to deny people the thing they paid for and enjoy? I'm just trying to understand your logic here. You want people to be denied access to content they paid for because you don't want them to have it, but you don't think you should bear any responsibility for it?
It wouldn't be his call to do so. It would be BHVR's. Of course it would never happen and we will most likely see a huge rework of Legion instead, which will be the best way forward.
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I'd still take a Legion over an expert Nurse any day.
I wouldn't Nurse is always more fun to face and a truely game changer in chases compared to Legion. The only thing which might be annoying are certain AddOn combos, but well they will be reworked anyway one day.
I disagree. Legion has to respect pallets and walls, unless he uses Frenzy in which case you can take a few hits while he messes about activating it and de-activating it.
Nurse just teleports through and hits you. She can down 100 times faster than Legion can. Plus nothing in the game sucks as much as a Nurse who just blinks across the map to tunnel on every unhook, it's so lame.
You can counter nurse by breaking line of sight and going somewhere the nurse doesn't expect. Legion you can't because as soon as you think you're far enough he just runs and catches up.
And yet Nurse has topped every tier list for years, while Legion normally rates pretty low.
So it's not as sinple as you make it sound.
Tier list have nothing about fun/frustration. There is a reason why people dislike Legion more than Nurse and that's because there is difference in gameplay experience.
Legion chases are feel completely pretedetermed. You kinda know when a survivor will fall and there is a lack of choices for both sides. Nurse on the other hand feels different. Decisions made by both sides matter. That's the difference between the two.
Nurses will just tunnel people off hooks or try to slug everyone, or if they're bad they'll get one person down and then camp them out.
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Why do people use it on Billy and Nurse? Easy, because they want to win. They want to ensure their victory.
I don't think anyone would argue that NOED isn't a noob perk. Kind of fitting on Billy though since he's a noob killer. -
And yet Nurse has topped every tier list for years, while Legion normally rates pretty low.doggieman said:@The_Crusader said:
@Freudentrauma said:
@Orion said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
@Orion said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
@Orion said:
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@MegChicken said:
Just played a match with a Legion that attacked you twice and would walk around you until you were downed. You can’t counter it, because then they hit you.Never understood the hate, but after multiple franks mixtapes and this? 0 counterplay, and require 0 skill.
absolutely, legion should be erased, and customers that spent real money on it, compensated
Will you be the one to refund them? There are people who enjoy the Legion.
one thing is enjoying the legion as a killer, other is the ontopic thingy, extremelly un-enjoyable to play against as surv
You still haven't answered my question.
offtopic answer: obviously behaviour snould be the one to refund
i seen tons of matches with survs DCing when see killer is Susie
But why, if you're the one who wants to deny people the thing they paid for and enjoy? I'm just trying to understand your logic here. You want people to be denied access to content they paid for because you don't want them to have it, but you don't think you should bear any responsibility for it?
It wouldn't be his call to do so. It would be BHVR's. Of course it would never happen and we will most likely see a huge rework of Legion instead, which will be the best way forward.
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I'd still take a Legion over an expert Nurse any day.I wouldn't Nurse is always more fun to face and a truely game changer in chases compared to Legion. The only thing which might be annoying are certain AddOn combos, but well they will be reworked anyway one day.
I disagree. Legion has to respect pallets and walls, unless he uses Frenzy in which case you can take a few hits while he messes about activating it and de-activating it.
Nurse just teleports through and hits you. She can down 100 times faster than Legion can. Plus nothing in the game sucks as much as a Nurse who just blinks across the map to tunnel on every unhook, it's so lame.
You can counter nurse by breaking line of sight and going somewhere the nurse doesn't expect. Legion you can't because as soon as you think you're far enough he just runs and catches up.
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I cant believe people still think Billy is the most balanced killer.Crosses the map in 5 seconds, instadowns a survivor 10 seconds into the game before other survivors have even got to touch a gen
Balanced.
use your ears and eyes. They really help, yea i know you don't believe me but open your eyes and listen more carefully. if you get hit in first 10s of the game by billy chainsaw (or if you get hit next to a gen you're working on) that's 100% on you, not that billy is that good, you are that bad.
It's not me that gets hit that early luckily it's teammates.
The thing with Billy is he can land on top of survivors before they have a chance to make it to a pallet. Everybody knows this, Then it's instachainsaw and down.
No other killer can just fly across the map and instadown people like he can. No way he is the most balanced killer.
You can dodge the chainsaw, while he recovers from stopping you can go to the next pallet and loop him. Thats how you play vs billy.
You dont think billy is balanced, so what is the most balanced killer in your opinion? Nurse?
The chainsaw has a mile wide hitbox. You try to make Billy sound so easy to beat, yet he's widely known as a strong killer and the second best so something doesn't add up.
Not sure who is balanced. It varies. I would say an example of a strong but more balanced killer would be Spirit. She's strong but she can't instadown someone, cross the map in seconds and then instadown another survivor.
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Hallowed Blight was broken af but what matters is that it was fun.
Survivors were happy as long as they got their nectar, killers were happy because only 2 gens max got done.
This event....it's just bleh.
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Those perks as well. I mean normally survivors have that, but at that rank sometimes not everyone has level 3 of every perk.
I didn't play killer much this month since I hate what they did with the hooks, so I came into this event fairly low level. I've seen names that I've seen before but at much higher ranks, and in general the survivors seem more advanced than their rank would suggest. I'm going to assume a lot are deranking for the event?
Or maybe it's just all the rage quits.
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There's 2 types of games during this event..
1) Gens don't get done
2) Complete genrush
It feels like there's no inbetween.
Its hard to get points as survivor because the others are off looking for lanterns of hatch camping and so you get no points through gens.
Its hard to get points as killer because they either d/c before hook or let themself die on first hook.
I think once again 3-4 man swf gain a huge advantage from this event because they can genrush, unhook each other and not compete.
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The problem is that you're not just against other killers anymore, survivors are your enemy now too.
Left to die on the hook, sandbagged, or they just generally go straight to hatchcamp mode.
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Because killer mains would cry endless rivers of salt if he was nerfed. These are the people who will consider the game balanced when they get a 4k every game.
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@Freudentrauma said:
@Orion said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
@Orion said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
@Orion said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
@MegChicken said:
Just played a match with a Legion that attacked you twice and would walk around you until you were downed. You can’t counter it, because then they hit you.Never understood the hate, but after multiple franks mixtapes and this? 0 counterplay, and require 0 skill.
absolutely, legion should be erased, and customers that spent real money on it, compensated
Will you be the one to refund them? There are people who enjoy the Legion.
one thing is enjoying the legion as a killer, other is the ontopic thingy, extremelly un-enjoyable to play against as surv
You still haven't answered my question.
offtopic answer: obviously behaviour snould be the one to refund
i seen tons of matches with survs DCing when see killer is Susie
But why, if you're the one who wants to deny people the thing they paid for and enjoy? I'm just trying to understand your logic here. You want people to be denied access to content they paid for because you don't want them to have it, but you don't think you should bear any responsibility for it?
It wouldn't be his call to do so. It would be BHVR's. Of course it would never happen and we will most likely see a huge rework of Legion instead, which will be the best way forward.
@The_Crusader said:
I'd still take a Legion over an expert Nurse any day.I wouldn't Nurse is always more fun to face and a truely game changer in chases compared to Legion. The only thing which might be annoying are certain AddOn combos, but well they will be reworked anyway one day.
I disagree. Legion has to respect pallets and walls, unless he uses Frenzy in which case you can take a few hits while he messes about activating it and de-activating it.
Nurse just teleports through and hits you. She can down 100 times faster than Legion can. Plus nothing in the game sucks as much as a Nurse who just blinks across the map to tunnel on every unhook, it's so lame.
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edit: double posted. Delete please.
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@MaxiferPriest said:
@The_Crusader said:
I cant believe people still think Billy is the most balanced killer.Crosses the map in 5 seconds, instadowns a survivor 10 seconds into the game before other survivors have even got to touch a gen
Balanced.
use your ears and eyes. They really help, yea i know you don't believe me but open your eyes and listen more carefully. if you get hit in first 10s of the game by billy chainsaw (or if you get hit next to a gen you're working on) that's 100% on you, not that billy is that good, you are that bad.
It's not me that gets hit that early luckily it's teammates.
The thing with Billy is he can land on top of survivors before they have a chance to make it to a pallet. Everybody knows this, Then it's instachainsaw and down.
No other killer can just fly across the map and instadown people like he can. No way he is the most balanced killer.
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
I love Pharmacy with Botany Knowledge. The efficiency at tier 3 along with the increased efficiency of the green medkit gets you two full heals at crazy speed.This. Pharmacy + botany ftw
Then when you've farmed enough medkits, I use green medkit + self-care for the 20% efficiency boost and We'll Make It.
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Any of the games I've had?Tsulan said:@The_Crusader said:
I cant believe people still think Billy is the most balanced killer.Crosses the map in 5 seconds, instadowns a survivor 10 seconds into the game before other survivors have even got to touch a gen
Balanced.
I really miss that lol button.
Could you show me a video where Billy crosses a map in 5 seconds? Hell, i feel generous today! Lets double the time!
Are you really going to argue this? Obviously I was being generous with what I said but that in no way takes away the point that in under 10 seconds from the player getting control of their character he can be on too of a survivor and less than 10 seconds away from getting an instadown.
Not even Nurse can have someone down as early in the game as Billy can.
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I cant believe people still think Billy is the most balanced killer.
*Crosses the map in 5 seconds, instadowns a survivor 10 seconds into the game before other survivors have even got to touch a gen*
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I'd still take a Legion over an expert Nurse any day.
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Number 2 is so true.Zarathos said:Is this bait?
So where to start
1. gg ez is the term used by every egocentric players its never one side if your telling me you never met a survivor who also went gg ez then i want your survivours.Ds kinda promotes killers to hunt other targets that arent carrying it. Which often results in a killer targeting the person off the hook instead of going after the obssesion. If you take a ds regardless of whether or not your behind i question your legitimacy as a killer player. Slugging ds and dribbling is the best solution right now.
Console players are still new to the advanced mechanics a survivour can use to survive. So mechanics like camping and tunneling will not be as important. Camping and tunneling mind you are tools in a killers kit. You dont need em for every game but if players are trying to rush hooks or are making bad saves you need to punish that misplay by downing the unhooked or force them to bodyblock.
My advice dont ever listen to a killer main or survivour main listen to the players who play both. They will give you the fairest assesment of the game and its problems.
If I see someone rush an unhook and the person unhooking has DS then sorry but I'm going for the injured guy. I'm all for giving people a chance when unhooked but I'm not going to screw myself over by wasting time chasing someone to get no hook out of it.
Other survivors have to suffer because baby wants his crutch perk. Reason #342 why it's an awful, toxic perk. -
Welcome to the club. 40 seconds heal are too much. I'd rather take my chances with pharmacy and half that time.
I use Bond as well so if I always have a back-up way of being healed. -
"but its the killers who are toxic!!1"
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He struggles with pressure but he's still far better in chases than the bottom half of the roster.Claudette_Baguette said:@The_Crusader said:
Claudette_Baguette said:@OGlilSPOOK20 said:
Lmao is this a joke? Have we been jebaited! I can't believe what I read! 😂😂😂 Clown weak??? Dude he's in the same category as Huntress, Spirit, Hag & Myers... He's a anti loop killer. You must be complete garbage with him or you just do not know how to use him at all.
Clown can't stop loops or has an ability that really helps you catch people. People can still use millions of pallets against clown if they just don't get too greedy. He can't stop that like spirit, hag or huntress for example.
They drop pallets early against Clown which saves a lot of time.
Plus if you use the extra hindered penalty or the one that makes toxin effects last moderately longer than you can hit them befote they get to the next pallet.
Doesn't matter. Survivors can still waste enormous amounts of time because of the great amount of pallets on a map. Clown can't down survivors quickly enough to put out enough pressure. He doesn't have a mobility tool either.
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Claudette_Baguette said:@OGlilSPOOK20 said:
Lmao is this a joke? Have we been jebaited! I can't believe what I read! 😂😂😂 Clown weak??? Dude he's in the same category as Huntress, Spirit, Hag & Myers... He's a anti loop killer. You must be complete garbage with him or you just do not know how to use him at all.
Clown can't stop loops or has an ability that really helps you catch people. People can still use millions of pallets against clown if they just don't get too greedy. He can't stop that like spirit, hag or huntress for example.
They drop pallets early against Clown which saves a lot of time.
Plus if you use the extra hindered penalty or the one that makes toxin effects last moderately longer than you can hit them befote they get to the next pallet.
Doesn't matter. Survivors can still waste enormous amounts of time because of the great amount of pallets on a map. Clown can't down survivors quickly enough to put out enough pressure. He doesn't have a mobility tool either.
I'd say Nurse, Billy, Spirit, Hag and Huntress are stronger.
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Lol what?
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I really think they need to remove map offerings. Having survivors burn 10 coldwind offerings in one night is too much.
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This.TragicSolitude said:Playing survivor, teammates keep DCing before any gens are done. I've ended a lot of matches with 0 event points.
I can't get crap for points as killer. Survivors keep DCing the first time I down them, or if I'm lucky on their first hook. Then I can either wait forever for the ones left to do the gens, or I can do what killers have done to me and kill them quickly so I can move to the next match, leaving them with no event points. Neither option is enjoyable.
No matter which side I play or how I handle it, I'm getting very few event points and having no fun. That's a terrible combination for an event. It shouldn't be like this.
As survivor I spend more time trying to get into a game than I do playing that game.
Once in the game I do most of the work because other survivors just hatch camp and then I get 1 hooked because peiple aren't saving each other.
As killer they disconnect before you can even hook them.
This event is awful. Just end it please lol lets go back to normal games. You had a nice try devs but it just isn't working, everyonr is at their most toxic. -
They need to fix the ######### crashing.
Whenever I'm actually enjoying a game it's guarented to crash. When you're getting camped out with some idiot killer staring at you though oh no the game runs perfectly then. It's so ######### frustrating. -
I liked Hallowed Blight but yeah this one is awful as survivor and doesn't feel much fun as killer. It's just one bad game after another. The last game was kind of fun and then boom fatal errorr game crashed. So now I'm back to sitting through 10 mins of lobby dodges and red pings. Why does the game keep crashing? Why isn't it fixed?
Ever since the update in December I haven't really enjoyed the game as there have been too many technical issues or bad changes (such as hooks). -
Hallowed Blight by far.
I mean it was really stupid seeing survivors suicide for nectar but it was fun lol you run around hoping to fill your vial and dgaf about anything else. Whatever happens after that you couldn't care less, not even if you got facecamped because you already had points from the plants. -
You have to remember this was added in the pack that gave us Decisive Strike.
That's all you need to know. The designers clearly had no idea what they were doing back then. -
They drop pallets early against Clown which saves a lot of time.Claudette_Baguette said:@OGlilSPOOK20 said:
Lmao is this a joke? Have we been jebaited! I can't believe what I read! 😂😂😂 Clown weak??? Dude he's in the same category as Huntress, Spirit, Hag & Myers... He's a anti loop killer. You must be complete garbage with him or you just do not know how to use him at all.Clown can't stop loops or has an ability that really helps you catch people. People can still use millions of pallets against clown if they just don't get too greedy. He can't stop that like spirit, hag or huntress for example.
Plus if you use the extra hindered penalty or the one that makes toxin effects last moderately longer than you can hit them befote they get to the next pallet.
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He's weak to genrush but he's definitely not the worst killer.
He can slow survivors down well. Sure base is a bit weak but so are most killers without add ons.
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It's happening to everyone.
Pretty good event so far....
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A Nurse with a mori, that explains it. These are the most entitled people in the entire game.
They get salty as hell if you don't come out to serve yourself on a plate to them. They tunnel people right off the hook too.
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Ok ans that's fine.weirdkid5 said:
If they don't like it they can get over it or play another game. I'm a solo survivor so dont sit here and act like this negatively affects me, it doesn't. I could care less about my team and they are irrelevant to my survival, unless I get hooked, but if I don't get hooked in the first place it's not an issue.The_Crusader said:
Ok and judging by this event most people don't like this.weirdkid5 said:
Because they clarified this in a Stream once before. You're being opportunistic and finding a chance to escape, you DON'T have to work with your team, the store description straight up says "work with your team, or don't." Body blocking teammates so they die and YOU can get away is also a valid strategy.The_Crusader said:
Yet under the report section one part says "working with the killer".weirdkid5 said:
It isnt bannable, did you even read the thread? Pointing out teammates isn't working with the Killer, it's throwing them under the bus so you can escape.The_Crusader said:So working with the killer and sandbagging other survivors are bannable....yet the devs keep pushing ways for survivors to play against each other.
Its almost like that is a bad idea? Who would have guessed. Encourage cooperation please.
Now if you die and add the Killer to tell him where your team is, or load into the game with a Killer planning to ruin the game for everyone else, then yes that is bannable.
How is that not working with the killer?
You aren't actively working with the Killer if he's also trying to Kill you. It's quite obvious when someone is working with the Killer and when they are trying to escape, mostly because teamers don't tend to harm each other and the Killer usually let's his buddy survive.
If I see you go into a locker and the Killer is trying to kill me, if I point at the locker to give you away, that isn't "working with the Killer." It's the same concept if we were running away from a group of Zombies, and then I trip you so they eat you instead and allow me to get away.
Scummy? Yes. Bannable? No.
In fact survivors playing like this puts you at a massive disadvantage as a solo survivor so you might as well just stick to SWF.....then killer mains cry because SWF are far more powerful due to voice comms and strategy.
I still think they need to drop this playing against each other idea and encourage more teanwork.
I bought this game when it came out for the solo experience. If they make this game more team oriented I'll permanently leave and never come back honestly.
I'm on the opposite end if it ever becomes more like this event then I'll stop playing. There's nothing more boring than waiting for your team to die so you can get the hatch. Theres no point doing gens if nobody else is doing them. -
Lol when he gets sucked through windows as his chainsaw hits people....Blueberry said:Legion for both. Either he has Franks tape and you get downed with no counter play or he doesn't and just follows your blood. Both requiring no skill on either side and both having no counter play.
Other than Legion I hate playing against Billy's. He isn't punished enough for chainsaw miss plays and the chainsaws reach/maneuverability feels VERY forgiving. When you go down it just feels..cheap.
But remember according to some people Billy is "ThE mOsT bAlAnCeD kIlLeR!" -
Ok and judging by this event most people don't like this.weirdkid5 said:
Because they clarified this in a Stream once before. You're being opportunistic and finding a chance to escape, you DON'T have to work with your team, the store description straight up says "work with your team, or don't." Body blocking teammates so they die and YOU can get away is also a valid strategy.The_Crusader said:
Yet under the report section one part says "working with the killer".weirdkid5 said:
It isnt bannable, did you even read the thread? Pointing out teammates isn't working with the Killer, it's throwing them under the bus so you can escape.The_Crusader said:So working with the killer and sandbagging other survivors are bannable....yet the devs keep pushing ways for survivors to play against each other.
Its almost like that is a bad idea? Who would have guessed. Encourage cooperation please.
Now if you die and add the Killer to tell him where your team is, or load into the game with a Killer planning to ruin the game for everyone else, then yes that is bannable.
How is that not working with the killer?
You aren't actively working with the Killer if he's also trying to Kill you. It's quite obvious when someone is working with the Killer and when they are trying to escape, mostly because teamers don't tend to harm each other and the Killer usually let's his buddy survive.
If I see you go into a locker and the Killer is trying to kill me, if I point at the locker to give you away, that isn't "working with the Killer." It's the same concept if we were running away from a group of Zombies, and then I trip you so they eat you instead and allow me to get away.
Scummy? Yes. Bannable? No.
In fact survivors playing like this puts you at a massive disadvantage as a solo survivor so you might as well just stick to SWF.....then killer mains cry because SWF are far more powerful due to voice comms and strategy.
I still think they need to drop this playing against each other idea and encourage more teanwork. -
Yet under the report section one part says "working with the killer".weirdkid5 said:
It isnt bannable, did you even read the thread? Pointing out teammates isn't working with the Killer, it's throwing them under the bus so you can escape.The_Crusader said:So working with the killer and sandbagging other survivors are bannable....yet the devs keep pushing ways for survivors to play against each other.
Its almost like that is a bad idea? Who would have guessed. Encourage cooperation please.
Now if you die and add the Killer to tell him where your team is, or load into the game with a Killer planning to ruin the game for everyone else, then yes that is bannable.
How is that not working with the killer? -
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So working with the killer and sandbagging other survivors are bannable....yet the devs keep pushing ways for survivors to play against each other.
Its almost like that is a bad idea? Who would have guessed. Encourage cooperation please.
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50k per offering.
Then there's the fact that I can do 3 gens solo and either get left on my first hook to die, or other survivors purposefully sandbag me to get me killed.
Why am I wasting points for that? I'll just save the offerings for SWF.
Great event though really. Completely ruined the game or the next 2 weeks.