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@Shadoureon said:
OP is wrong anyway. He thinks you can farm 210 vials. You cant. You can only grind for 2 outfits the rest is bought. so 60 vials is all you need.oh so they made it even worse by not letting you get all the rewards and forcing you to buy them if you want them all. gg devs gg you have officially ruined the game and become EA
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@RSB said:
All day everyday? I have 30/30 on survivor and 21/30 on killer lolim sorry that you are able to play this game almost all day and still get enough for them but for people like me who play by myself always get ignored when trying to get the nectar and end up dying when the killer finds me and i lost progress
It's been two days. If he has almost completed everything, then your claim that you need to play all day every day for the entire event is false, and the problem lies with you.
theres a defrence between xbox and pc. also screw off orion
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@RSB said:
All day everyday? I have 30/30 on survivor and 21/30 on killer lolim sorry that you are able to play this game almost all day and still get enough for them but for people like me who play by myself always get ignored when trying to get the nectar and end up dying when the killer finds me and i lost progress
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i agree that the non sabotaging event hooks was right but they should make it where killers get more nectar from hooks and more vials, make it to where survivors share all nectar collected and have multiple vials.
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a guy in america had something taken from him for no reason by the law and he asked for it back and they ignored him so he got ti back himself and got punished for getting his property back
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i agree that the non sabotageable hooks was needed but they nerfed the survivors by them not sharing the stuff, making it a seperate objective, and you lose some if you die.
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i agree that the non sabotageable hooks was needed but they nerfed the survivors by them not sharing the stuff, making it a seperate objective, and you lose some if you die.
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no i want the event cosmetics to be event obtainable only like the ones before and for them to be easier to get because this event is just BS compaired to the ones what came before. yes they didnt have as many cosmetics but they did have a way to contain them that didnt take so much to get.
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
name good examples of movies with LGBTQ+ LEADS THAT ARENT LGBTQ based movies because their isnt alot from the USA thats in english.Wasn't there one that was literally nominated for an Oscar or something?
if there is name it other than Love, Simon since it is the first really good american LGBTQ+ movie that was in theatrers
Can't remember the name. I don't really care for those films, but I know there was one released very recently that got a lot of media attention.
yeah its called Love, Simon and its the first small step to adding another LGBTQ+ movie to the very small pool of them then campaired to the many strait ones
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
"However, I will point out, again, that whenever homosexuals say "LGBT", or some variation of it, they're only concerned with representation for the first two letters. You may ask yourself why this is relevant. Well, since you claim to be interested in representation for the sake of acceptance, look up bi-erasure."i said i was leaving but ######### dude i am gay, i have a transgender (MTF) sister, i also fight for all rights of all genders and sexual orientations i care about everyone who is LGBTQ+ and by saying we only care about the first two letters just means you dont know all the facts
You don't know all the facts either, sweetheart. Tell me, where in this thread was there a demand for a non-homosexual Survivor or even a non-homosexual character?
Every single thread I've seen asking for an LGBT character, be it for a TV series, a movie, a book, or a game, was always about a gay (usually male) character, and nothing more.let me post my original post
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
i asked this in the questions for the Q and A but it was one of the non-picked ones (i wonder why). like are any of the survivors in the game now LGBTQ and if not are you planning on there being any? any one have any ideas or seen things that sugest there is? i would say Nea is a lesbian but you never know cause she could be MTF (male to female trans) and Dwight could be Gay. Anyone think of people they want to be LGBTQ in this game's lore?what do you see maybe NEA IS A LESBIAN OR MTF and i do say dwight could be gay but i clearly stated ANY LGBTQ+ CHARACTER not just a gay male. and i said i only wanted like one or two LGBTQ+ characters implying all the rest would be strait.
And afterward, it (d)evolved into the main subject - gay characters. Because the rest of LGBT don't really matter.
no people like you guys who are against it did. because the rest of LGBTQ+ do matter and what you said is proof of why it does and it needs more recognition
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
"However, I will point out, again, that whenever homosexuals say "LGBT", or some variation of it, they're only concerned with representation for the first two letters. You may ask yourself why this is relevant. Well, since you claim to be interested in representation for the sake of acceptance, look up bi-erasure."i said i was leaving but ######### dude i am gay, i have a transgender (MTF) sister, i also fight for all rights of all genders and sexual orientations i care about everyone who is LGBTQ+ and by saying we only care about the first two letters just means you dont know all the facts
You don't know all the facts either, sweetheart. Tell me, where in this thread was there a demand for a non-homosexual Survivor or even a non-homosexual character?
Every single thread I've seen asking for an LGBT character, be it for a TV series, a movie, a book, or a game, was always about a gay (usually male) character, and nothing more.let me post my original post
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
i asked this in the questions for the Q and A but it was one of the non-picked ones (i wonder why). like are any of the survivors in the game now LGBTQ and if not are you planning on there being any? any one have any ideas or seen things that sugest there is? i would say Nea is a lesbian but you never know cause she could be MTF (male to female trans) and Dwight could be Gay. Anyone think of people they want to be LGBTQ in this game's lore?what do you see maybe NEA IS A LESBIAN OR MTF and i do say dwight could be gay but i clearly stated ANY LGBTQ+ CHARACTER not just a gay male. and i said i only wanted like one or two LGBTQ+ characters implying all the rest would be strait.
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
name good examples of movies with LGBTQ+ LEADS THAT ARENT LGBTQ based movies because their isnt alot from the USA thats in english.Wasn't there one that was literally nominated for an Oscar or something?
if there is name it other than Love, Simon since it is the first really good american LGBTQ+ movie that was in theatrers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TIc-KFzxfY here it is -
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Orion said:
Why should someone who was banned for hacking be invited to join a program like this?Jendenise who freely admits on deranking by DCing and using MLGA (forbidden 3rd party software) is a fog streamer too.
ikr its like they said "Oh look guys she has more followers and a bigger fanbase so we should add her!" then they said "what about No0b3 we have plenty of DBD male streamers and he doesnt even have that big of a fanbase lets just ignore him"
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@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
I guess I'm still hung up on this "for the sake of it" line people keep bringing up. For one, how would you reasonably determine whether a character is added for the sake of it or not? By the looks of it, it seems like people are saying any minority character who happens to be poorly written ended up that way because they were created for the sake of it. Maybe, they're just a character who is a minority who happens to be poorly written.No one has said anything about forcing anything, either. Why is my side of the argument being characterized as forcing something, or demanding something, when in reality I am simply asking for something and articulating why I think it's logically consistent and a good idea.
You can determine if they were a character added for the sake of it by noting their character traits. If the emphasis is on their orientation, race, or sex, then they were added because of their orientation, race, or sex. See my examples of good films and bad films.
Often, characters who were added for the sake of having characters with certain traits will also be stereotypical. Homosexuals will be flamboyant, bisexuals will be promiscuous, and so on.Your idea (I think it was yours, correct me if I'm wrong) of having their orientation be a catalyst for whatever went wrong in their lives is good. That's something I think we can all accept, similarly to how we accept that Rin's family was ######### over by the way Japanese companies work.
Alternatively, having their orientation be presented as what it is - an irrelevant factoid - is also good. A casual reference to a same-sex partner, for example, as you also mentioned.However, I will point out, again, that whenever homosexuals say "LGBT", or some variation of it, they're only concerned with representation for the first two letters. You may ask yourself why this is relevant. Well, since you claim to be interested in representation for the sake of acceptance, look up bi-erasure.
"However, I will point out, again, that whenever homosexuals say "LGBT", or some variation of it, they're only concerned with representation for the first two letters. You may ask yourself why this is relevant. Well, since you claim to be interested in representation for the sake of acceptance, look up bi-erasure."
i said i was leaving but ######### dude i am gay, i have a transgender (MTF) sister, i also fight for all rights of all genders and sexual orientations i care about everyone who is LGBTQ+ and by saying we only care about the first two letters just means you dont know all the facts
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@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
guys i really dont want to argue i just want to discuss who could be LGBTQ, why they could be, and have fun in another discussion. when people come into these discussions and say stuff like why does it matter or that its irrelevant to the game.
when you do this is saddens me because all i wanted to do was start another post about something i believe in why cant you just let me ask what i want and not campaign against it if you dont believe in it.
i want a confirmed LGBTQ character in this horror game that i have many hours into because i want to be able to relate to a character for real not just say oh this persons gay and i believe that.
so when i ask for them to confirm if in any characters lore, they believed they were LGBTQ so that i can personally relate to them for real, not just in my head its something thats reasonable.
if you dont want to talk about who you think is LGBTQ and try and find reasons why they are by looking in the current lore or coming up with lore yourself for if they were LGBTQ then leave
so, again if you dont agree with any of LGBTQ, you want to constantly go against anything any of us put, or just come up with reason after reason why this question i ask cant be added to the game's lore as a small part of it thats only one sentence long if that.
so, if you qualify as anything i said before then just go, leave, get out of this thread because no one needs you negativity in a thread thats asking for a small thing to be added that will not effect your quality of life unless you are a homophobe or transphobe or anything against LGBTQ and if you are then give good, solid reasons why its wrong to be LGBTQ (LGBTQ stands for everyone that is not strait just because there is not a letter there does not mean it is not represented) and if you can do that then go ahead and try.i am gay, i am also a Baptist Christian going to a Christian Baptist School who believes in God. so if your argument is that it is a sin against God then your argument is invalid because we are all sinners in Gods eyes and every sin is equal.
so, if your going to be negative then just go and let me and other people who want to participate in this thread participate peacefully.
(side note if your color blind and cant read this post tell me and i will post a different version that has no color)
let me post again since people think i want to argue. if your here because your against it then why are you here? i literally said in the post we would discuss who would be LGBTQ+ and if anyone had proof of them being it before it but you didn't read the post did you? you just say add a LGBTQ+ character and that was enough for you guys arguing right? i am going to let @Wahara take this for now on since obviously no one listens to me and i dont have enough time to deal with this. also going to add i posted this reply on page 3 and look where we are now
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@Orion said:
@Mc_Harty said:
Having a gay character into a video game simply because they fill a checklist is what everyone is against.The fact you can't see the difference between pandering and respectful characters shows your desperation.
^This.
Good examples of movies with a female lead: Terminator 2, the first four Alien films, Gravity. Their characters were not created to fit a checklist; they were created with all the important details in mind (badassery, intelligence, vulnerability, etc.), while paying no attention to irrelevant ones (skin color, sex, orientation).
Bad example of a movie with a female lead: the Ghostbusters remake. The movie was made just to have an all-women remake of the original, with no concern for what made the original any good.Good examples of movies with a black lead: the Blade trilogy, Black Panther, Django (so I hear; haven't actually watched that one). In the first case, the situation is analogous to what I described above. In the other two cases, the race of the characters fits the situation - one film is set primarily in Africa, the other is about a slave in the USA.
name good examples of movies with LGBTQ+ LEADS THAT ARENT LGBTQ based movies because their isnt alot from the USA thats in english.
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@Mc_Harty said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
if no one gives a ######### then why do i?Because you're a very shallow individual that needs neon signs to relate to something.
but i still give a ######### and so do others
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@MichaelAMyers said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@MichaelAMyers said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
its not just about a video game its all LGBTQ+ people in general that arent accepted for being who they are and by adding LGBTQ+ people to videogames it would be another step to normalizing LGBTQ+ which is one very small step by adding one to this gameWHAT? JUST WHAT? literally, people been telling you it's not important because this is a video game! a HORROR VIDEO GAME! Being Gay or Lesbian or Transgender is openly free right now in 2018 ACCEPTABLE and been ACCEPTABLE for a long time! but who cares over a VIDEO GAME!
its not fully acceptaed if you would of refered to my whole post then you would of saw that in places like Florida people fire others for being LGBTQ+ and that although we are tollerated we arent acceptated since their are still people who beat up LGBTQ+ in public at nightime in alleys or other places we arent accepted and we dont have every right of a strait person. and yes this is a videogame and most other videogames dont contain LGBTQ+ people. in Overwatch the character tracer is gay but you dont see them announcing that in the game except in a few sprays. it just that i would like to relate to a gay character and just because this is a videogame does not mean it cant be added.
Overwatch=/=Dead by Daylight
im saying that OVERWATCH HAS A GAY CHARACTER not that the two games are equal and this gay character tracer it is not announced she is gay but just sprays and lore about her being with a girl
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hacking a cosmetic in the game files by changing the code in thier because the game reset and the devs didnt care enough to give him his Nea legacy skin back and in order to give him the one legacy skin he had to give himself all of them and he only used the Nea one. he constatly for a month tried to get help from the devs but they didnt listen
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i would run this, WGLF, Sprint Burst, and urban evasion and just be sneaky and do gens and save people from hooks and hide. im pretty good at looping soooooo........
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@Mc_Harty said:
@Wahara said:
"when you almost militantly march forward forcing your ideas on everyone and injecting them into every single medium you can get your hands on my tolerance for the whole group drops."Is Claudette throwing her blackness in your face? Is Feng Min throwing her Asianness in your face?
All of you are being cowards about this very basic and [BAD WORD] simple question. Please justify why the representation of race and sex is permissible but the representation of sexuality is not.
I'll wait.
Simple. No one gives a #########. Not about race, sex, or who ever you want to [BAD WORD].
Stop acting so offended.
if no one gives a ######### then why do i?
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@Wahara said:
"when you almost militantly march forward forcing your ideas on everyone and injecting them into every single medium you can get your hands on my tolerance for the whole group drops."Is Claudette throwing her blackness in your face? Is Feng Min throwing her Asianness in your face?
All of you are being obtuse cowards about this very basic and [BAD WORD] simple question. Why is the representation of race and sex permissible but the representation of sexuality is not? If you cannot answer, you must accept the possibility of having an irrational double standard and take some time for a bit of self examination. Seriously.
I'll be waiting while you ignore me to regurgitate your tired points at Legend over and over again.
what i was going to say thank you
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@Peasant said:
@Thatbrownmonster said:
ochidoo should also be a fog whisper right?Be careful when you post stuff like that! I almost hurt myself laughing when I reached for my phone to call Chris Hansen.
well comparing Ochido to No0b3 is like Comparing a Convicted Felon who commited murder to a Prison Guard
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@MichaelAMyers said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
its not just about a video game its all LGBTQ+ people in general that arent accepted for being who they are and by adding LGBTQ+ people to videogames it would be another step to normalizing LGBTQ+ which is one very small step by adding one to this gameWHAT? JUST WHAT? literally, people been telling you it's not important because this is a video game! a HORROR VIDEO GAME! Being Gay or Lesbian or Transgender is openly free right now in 2018 ACCEPTABLE and been ACCEPTABLE for a long time! but who cares over a VIDEO GAME!
its not fully acceptaed if you would of refered to my whole post then you would of saw that in places like Florida people fire others for being LGBTQ+ and that although we are tollerated we arent acceptated since their are still people who beat up LGBTQ+ in public at nightime in alleys or other places we arent accepted and we dont have every right of a strait person. and yes this is a videogame and most other videogames dont contain LGBTQ+ people. in Overwatch the character tracer is gay but you dont see them announcing that in the game except in a few sprays. it just that i would like to relate to a gay character and just because this is a videogame does not mean it cant be added.
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@Peasant said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 I'm all for supporting LGBTQ people for who they are, there is just a time and a place for it. During the time in history at which Dead by Daylight occurs (the 1950s) there was little to no open homosexuality. Knowing this I cannot in good faith recommend that the developers and designers focus time and effort on a character that has little business being there. Dead by Daylight has two priorities:meeting the horror genre trends
andmeeting the asymmetrical genre trends
To suggest that the developers and designers should change their objectives and focus all of their efforts on two LGBTQ characters is delusional, to say the least.
It is the duty of the developers to produce a product for a market. Dead by Daylight is an asymmetrical horror game. While I have no issues with a LGBTQ chapter coming out, the focus shouldn't be on supporting the LGBTQ movement as that's not what I and over tens of thousands other customers bought Dead by Daylight for. We bought Dead by Daylight for an asymmetrical horror game. That day that the focus of the developers shifts from horror and asymmetrical gameplay is the day that a very large group of players will become very angry.
I'm not against LGBTQ characters being released, there just needs to be a reason for them to be here that is based on the main game itself. We do not need LGBTQ characters in Dead by Daylight just to help LGBTQ people accept themselves, that is not Dead by Daylight's purpose and it would be an insult to Dead by Daylight and the LGBTQ acceptance movement.
this game doesnt only take place in 1950's they said that the entity is everwhere and that it takes people from any time
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guys when i campared womens sufferage, and the freeing of the slaves i meant to the LGBTQ+ community and that we LGBTQ+ had to fight to get married and be accpeted and we still are fighting for all the rights of a strait person that obvisouly is not a felon. by adding a LGBTQ+ person to this game its not checking off a list its adding something people are asking for. LGBTQ+ people go threw hell everyday with some jobs like in Florida being allowed to fire someone with no reason at all and you cant go to court about it. i play characters based on backstory not powers or apperance so when i picked what survivor i would main it was based on Nea's story. so like i said earlier this would be a small step in normalizing being something other than Strait. if your LGBTQ+ and dont like labels then your most afraid to say it unlike me who make my label of "Gay" a strength not a weakness.
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well back in the day didnt they increase the time to repair i thought i read that somewhere
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bump
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@RWoodrow said:
Global said:He most likely wont be as he used to be extremely toxic and pulled the victim card when he was caught for tampering save files.
He actually played that card twice. Once per ban. The second time claiming he didn't know why he was banned. His fans bugged the devs about it so badly, they addressed it in a stream simply saying "he knows why".
TheLegendDyl4n1 said:@George_Soros said:
RuneStarr said:
At least he's trying to be less toxic/######### towards other players. Yeah he still plays aggressively with flashlights, looping and all that,BUT he doesn't sit there teabagging every pallet and spamming hate in the chat while talking ######### about the other players. Well from what I've seen. ngl I don't watch his stream very often, just the occasional YT video, and it's miles less toxic that someone like Pug, ochido, anyone that publicly encourages DCing to derank (or DCing in general). I could be way off and he could actually be a mega-twat while streaming though lol. Umm... except he hacked. Plus, he's the slimiest, cringiest SOB out there. God, the half hour long video where he tries to explain away his ban (because of hacking), with the most cheesy melodramatic music playing in the background... "I've been unjustly wronged!"
Honestly there is no bigger twat in dbd than him, including Ochido.
he hacked his legacy skin back and he really didnt even hack he went into the game files and gave it to himself because his account was reset and the devs did nothing to help him he literally has video proof of him getting the legacy. this was also a while ago
So, he hacked it. He tampered with the game files to do something the devs told everyone not to do. I get what you're saying, he earned it first...he still hacked it at the end of the day.
I used to be a Noob fan too. He doesn't deserve to be in the program.
it doesnt matter they should of helped him. he got banned for it and he waited his time. he came back, became less toxic, and still has a large fan-base. i mean come on he did everything right and was ignored by the devs because he wasnt one of the more famous youtubers back when it happened unlike others who got thier legacys back because they were more famous
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
I want to be able to play as a gay character. Why the hell not?And you are playing as a gay character, as far as you know. Just because the devs haven't said they're LGBT doesn't mean they're not LGBT. I said it in my first comment in this thread: just assume they're whatever orientation you are and be done with it.
I understood what you said the first time, but you haven't articulated what threat the explicit inclusion of a sexual orientation would present to the game.
I have previously argued that it has the capability of adding depth and intrigue to characters, whereas you seem to be under the impression that it would do harm, or take away from the game some how. Okay, I'll bite, but you gotta give me something to work with.
I think it's irrelevant to the lore and the characters, the same way it's irrelevant in real life unless you want to know if you can date and/or have sex with someone. I also think it's usually done as a token inclusion, and those always suck.
so when the men said women didnt need the right to vote did they just say yeah its irrelvant yes they did until they fought for it. when african americans wanted freedom from being slaves did they just sit down, no they fought and got thier freedom in the civil war. so if there was no black person in this game it would be weird right? yes it would. if there was no women in this game it would be weird right? yes. my arguement is that they should add a LGBTQ+ character not to check off a list but because people are requesting it.
In this thread, there are more people against it than there are for it, and a large portion of the ones against it are LGBT themselves. Stop trying to frame your position as the morally correct one or even the popular one, because it's simply not true. Having LGBT characters in a game isn't going to help LGBT teenagers who become homeless due to their homophobic parents kicking them out. It's not going to help the high suicide rate due to bullying. It's not going to change anything.
"a large portion" where i see a few but most have just said stuff about the subject not about thier sexuality i said i am gay and another said they were gay but other than that there arent any other claims.
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@Peasant said:
Since we're in the LORE subforum I'll be frank with everyone. If there were going to be a homosexual character added to Dead by Daylight it would likely be a killer. The reason for this is that a majority of the cast and aesthetic themes come from the 1950's. During this specific time in history, folks weren't too keen on the idea of same-sex couples (to the best of my VERY limited knowledge on this subject). So if a homosexual character were to appear in Dead by Daylight they would likely be a killer who was furious after losing their partner. I don't see why they would have a homosexual survivor as the developers never bother to disclose that information in survivor character lore.Above all though, there is no current need for homosexual characters in video games. Games are meant to entertain an audience. Dead by Daylight is a horror game above everything else. So unless you want to exploit homophobia there is no direct need for homosexual representation in a horror game.
if they were to add a LGBTQ+ killer it would still add a little something to this game. although it isnt a survivor i have slowly started playing killer so i could main that one since i go off of story and not appearance or powers
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@Mc_Harty said:
Is this snowflake still complaining about the fact there's no bright neon sign above the survivors head that state 'LBGT' ?Nobody wants forced diversity. Nobody wants a gay character to exist simply because they're gay. They would much rather the character be part of the world rather then the world adjusting to the character.
We don't even know if the majority of the survivors are straight. Because in the end it doesn't matter, they're still ######### by a malevolent god that tortures them for food.
Quit being so god damn shallow because you see minorities as a checkbox for your socjus agenda.
please enlighten us to how every character in this game was added to be apart of the world. every character or at least every chapter (a killer, a map, and a survivor) has its own DIFFERENT backstorys none of them were added as apart of the world to make a whole single story to come together. also just because they are being eaten by a god that tortures them doesnt matter since if your LGBTQ+ is apart of a characters lore and we are in the lore section
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@SoylentPixie said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
so when the men said women didnt need the right to vote did they just say yeah its irrelvant yes they did until they fought for it. when african americans wanted freedom from being slaves did they just sit down, no they fought and got thier freedom in the civil war. so if there was no black person in this game it would be weird right? yes it would. if there was no women in this game it would be weird right? yes. my arguement is that they should add a LGBTQ+ character not to check off a list but because people are requesting it.Did you.....did you just compare your demand for an LGBTQ character in a VIDEO GAME, as the same as fighting for womens rights and the end to slavery?
Dear gods.....i don't even......i really do not have words for this. At least not very polite ones. I really do hope that was just a badly worded post that was easy to misread, i really do.
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@MichaelAMyers said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
I want to be able to play as a gay character. Why the hell not?And you are playing as a gay character, as far as you know. Just because the devs haven't said they're LGBT doesn't mean they're not LGBT. I said it in my first comment in this thread: just assume they're whatever orientation you are and be done with it.
I understood what you said the first time, but you haven't articulated what threat the explicit inclusion of a sexual orientation would present to the game.
I have previously argued that it has the capability of adding depth and intrigue to characters, whereas you seem to be under the impression that it would do harm, or take away from the game some how. Okay, I'll bite, but you gotta give me something to work with.
I think it's irrelevant to the lore and the characters, the same way it's irrelevant in real life unless you want to know if you can date and/or have sex with someone. I also think it's usually done as a token inclusion, and those always suck.
so when the men said women didnt need the right to vote did they just say yeah its irrelvant yes they did until they fought for it. when african americans wanted freedom from being slaves did they just sit down, no they fought and got thier freedom in the civil war. so if there was no black person in this game it would be weird right? yes it would. if there was no women in this game it would be weird right? yes. my arguement is that they should add a LGBTQ+ character not to check off a list but because people are requesting it.
Slavery=/=A Video Game
Women Rights=/=A Video GameThose are some horrible anologies to your "argument" don't compare REAL events for FICTIONAL ones.
Dude! READ WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING! There isn't a ARGUMENT BECAUSE THIS ISNT A DEBATE as there no need for a LGBTQ type concept for characters! Again WRITE FANFIC about it don't try to tell everyone they are "Bullying" you or we are derailing because we are sharing objective opinions.
My mom just got married to her long time girlfriend and she would not care about this trivial concept you want "enforced" because people "demand" for it.
its not just about a video game its all LGBTQ+ people in general that arent accepted for being who they are and by adding LGBTQ+ people to videogames it would be another step to normalizing LGBTQ+ which is one very small step by adding one to this game
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@MichaelAMyers said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
I want to be able to play as a gay character. Why the hell not?And you are playing as a gay character, as far as you know. Just because the devs haven't said they're LGBT doesn't mean they're not LGBT. I said it in my first comment in this thread: just assume they're whatever orientation you are and be done with it.
I understood what you said the first time, but you haven't articulated what threat the explicit inclusion of a sexual orientation would present to the game.
I have previously argued that it has the capability of adding depth and intrigue to characters, whereas you seem to be under the impression that it would do harm, or take away from the game some how. Okay, I'll bite, but you gotta give me something to work with.
I think it's irrelevant to the lore and the characters, the same way it's irrelevant in real life unless you want to know if you can date and/or have sex with someone. I also think it's usually done as a token inclusion, and those always suck.
so when the men said women didnt need the right to vote did they just say yeah its irrelvant yes they did until they fought for it. when african americans wanted freedom from being slaves did they just sit down, no they fought and got thier freedom in the civil war. so if there was no black person in this game it would be weird right? yes it would. if there was no women in this game it would be weird right? yes. my arguement is that they should add a LGBTQ+ character not to check off a list but because people are requesting it.
Slavery=/=A Video Game
Women Rights=/=A Video GameThose are some horrible anologies to your "argument" don't compare REAL events for FICTIONAL ones.
Dude! READ WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING! There isn't a ARGUMENT BECAUSE THIS ISNT A DEBATE as there no need for a LGBTQ type concept for characters! Again WRITE FANFIC about it don't try to tell everyone they are "Bullying" you or we are derailing because we are sharing objective opinions.
My mom just got married to her long time girlfriend and she would not care about this trivial concept you want "enforced" because people "demand" for it.
its not just about a video game its all LGBTQ+ people in general that arent accepted for being who they are and by adding LGBTQ+ people to videogames it would be another step to normalizing LGBTQ+ which is one very small step by adding one to this game
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@PolarBear said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
guys i really dont want to argue i just want to discuss who could be LGBTQ, why they could be, and have fun in another discussion. when people come into these discussions and say stuff like why does it matter or that its irrelevant to the game.
when you do this is saddens me because all i wanted to do was start another post about something i believe in why cant you just let me ask what i want and not campaign against it if you dont believe in it.
i want a confirmed LGBTQ character in this horror game that i have many hours into because i want to be able to relate to a character for real not just say oh this persons gay and i believe that.
so when i ask for them to confirm if in any characters lore, they believed they were LGBTQ so that i can personally relate to them for real, not just in my head its something thats reasonable.
if you dont want to talk about who you think is LGBTQ and try and find reasons why they are by looking in the current lore or coming up with lore yourself for if they were LGBTQ then leave
so, again if you dont agree with any of LGBTQ, you want to constantly go against anything any of us put, or just come up with reason after reason why this question i ask cant be added to the game's lore as a small part of it thats only one sentence long if that.
so, if you qualify as anything i said before then just go, leave, get out of this thread because no one needs you negativity in a thread thats asking for a small thing to be added that will not effect your quality of life unless you are a homophobe or transphobe or anything against LGBTQ and if you are then give good, solid reasons why its wrong to be LGBTQ (LGBTQ stands for everyone that is not strait just because there is not a letter there does not mean it is not represented) and if you can do that then go ahead and try.i am gay, i am also a Baptist Christian going to a Christian Baptist School who believes in God. so if your argument is that it is a sin against God then your argument is invalid because we are all sinners in Gods eyes and every sin is equal.
so, if your going to be negative then just go and let me and other people who want to participate in this thread participate peacefully.
(side note if your color blind and cant read this post tell me and i will post a different version that has no color)
You want to relate to a character by them being gay. How can I then relate to that character if I'm straight? If they can't implement the sexual orientation of a character in a meaningful way then why should they?
if your strait then your already accepted for your sexual orientation so you dont go what most LGBTQ+ people do
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@ShyN3ko said:
Hey i have a plan.
Dont use Self Care.
Just find a teammate.
Rly. Its a TEAMGAME.TEAMGAME!
hahaha if only this were true
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@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
@Orion said:
@Wahara said:
I want to be able to play as a gay character. Why the hell not?And you are playing as a gay character, as far as you know. Just because the devs haven't said they're LGBT doesn't mean they're not LGBT. I said it in my first comment in this thread: just assume they're whatever orientation you are and be done with it.
I understood what you said the first time, but you haven't articulated what threat the explicit inclusion of a sexual orientation would present to the game.
I have previously argued that it has the capability of adding depth and intrigue to characters, whereas you seem to be under the impression that it would do harm, or take away from the game some how. Okay, I'll bite, but you gotta give me something to work with.
I think it's irrelevant to the lore and the characters, the same way it's irrelevant in real life unless you want to know if you can date and/or have sex with someone. I also think it's usually done as a token inclusion, and those always suck.
so when the men said women didnt need the right to vote did they just say yeah its irrelvant yes they did until they fought for it. when african americans wanted freedom from being slaves did they just sit down, no they fought and got thier freedom in the civil war. so if there was no black person in this game it would be weird right? yes it would. if there was no women in this game it would be weird right? yes. my arguement is that they should add a LGBTQ+ character not to check off a list but because people are requesting it.
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@George_Soros said:
RuneStarr said:At least he's trying to be less toxic/######### towards other players. Yeah he still plays aggressively with flashlights, looping and all that,BUT he doesn't sit there teabagging every pallet and spamming hate in the chat while talking ######### about the other players.
Well from what I've seen. ngl I don't watch his stream very often, just the occasional YT video, and it's miles less toxic that someone like Pug, ochido, anyone that publicly encourages DCing to derank (or DCing in general).
I could be way off and he could actually be a mega-twat while streaming though lol.
Umm... except he hacked. Plus, he's the slimiest, cringiest SOB out there. God, the half hour long video where he tries to explain away his ban (because of hacking), with the most cheesy melodramatic music playing in the background... "I've been unjustly wronged!"
Honestly there is no bigger twat in dbd than him, including Ochido.he hacked his legacy skin back and he really didnt even hack he went into the game files and gave it to himself because his account was reset and the devs did nothing to help him he literally has video proof of him getting the legacy. this was also a while ago
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@RuneStarr said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@RuneStarr said:
At least he's trying to be less toxic/######### towards other players. Yeah he still plays aggressively with flashlights, looping and all that,BUT he doesn't sit there teabagging every pallet and spamming hate in the chat while talking ######### about the other players.
Well from what I've seen. ngl I don't watch his stream very often, just the occasional YT video, and it's miles less toxic that someone like Pug, ochido, anyone that publicly encourages DCing to derank (or DCing in general).I could be way off and he could actually be a mega-twat while streaming though lol.
flashlight clicking and looping is not toxic. flahslight clicking is a way of communicating with other survivors and killers and looping is how you survive. he has gotten alot less toxic and i watch his streams he is less toxic and doesnt allways bring flashlights in game.
Oh I 100% agree. I don't see flashlights or looping as toxic, but many do and that's why I assume people ######### on this noob kid as "toxic" when he really doesn't seem that bad compared to some streamers out there.
he is my favorite streamer to watch since he streams 75% of the time in a week usually
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@White_Owl said:
In yesterday's stream it's been said that the Huntress is the killer who comes from further in the past, being from the WWI years, but I thought the Nurse was from the late 1800s from the appearance of her nurse outfit. She does have a WWII skin, but usually skins are not canon.
So what's the deal? How old is the Nurse really?they said that the entity takes killers and survivors from diffrent times and places so he can take someone from the year 1997 and then go back and take someone from 1967 so he basically is all throughout time
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@Wahara said:
A few things, since the forum ate my last post. If a moderator can find and approve the last post that I made which randomly went into the queue, that would be appreciated.A) I feel like the people claiming that it "isn't necessary" are being somewhat disingenuous. If the roster of dead by daylight survivors were only black women, I am highly skeptical the majority of you claiming this would be as encouraged to play the game versus if you had the ability to choose a character that looked like or was more similar to you. The exact same arguments repeated here could be used against the inclusion of anyone else.
In response to Soylent and the point that sexuality, paraphrasing, "isn't something that should come up or something that people should care about." - visibility is a part of that normalization process. Familiarity breeds fondness. People who come into contact with diverse groups through the media that they consume become more accustomed to them. Will & Grace, for example, was one of the really large turning points in altering the average American's perception of gay people.C) Many things aren't necessary or don't matter. It isn't necessary for me to play dead by daylight, drink coffee, go for long walks, or sleep with five pillows. I do them anyways because they make me happy. Our desires and wants aren't usually determined by necessity but by emotional appreciation. If the inclusion of LGBTQ characters would be emotionally appreciated by a decent amount of the player base, why would you deny them, if not simply to be a dick?
D) You can't argue "No" because "It doesn't matter" That's arguing a negative and neutral stance at the same time.
thank you
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@RuneStarr said:
At least he's trying to be less toxic/######### towards other players. Yeah he still plays aggressively with flashlights, looping and all that,BUT he doesn't sit there teabagging every pallet and spamming hate in the chat while talking ######### about the other players.
Well from what I've seen. ngl I don't watch his stream very often, just the occasional YT video, and it's miles less toxic that someone like Pug, ochido, anyone that publicly encourages DCing to derank (or DCing in general).I could be way off and he could actually be a mega-twat while streaming though lol.
flashlight clicking and looping is not toxic. flahslight clicking is a way of communicating with other survivors and killers and looping is how you survive. he has gotten alot less toxic and i watch his streams he is less toxic and doesnt allways bring flashlights in game.
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@SoylentPixie said:
I really don't understand this need to have something like this defined i really don't, and before we go any further, yes i am a bisexual female, so i don't consider my view to be biased in any way shape or form. The LGBTQ society have been pushing for acceptance for a long time, its slowly been happening and gained great momentum over the years which is awesome. But guess what, with acceptance eventually comes the mundane, the normal. Aside from the hardcore objectors that scream 'Nope!' it's become a normal enough part of society that nobody cares if you are gay, bi, trans and so on.Personally i think that is a way healthier state of mind than applying some stigma to it. As for asking for 'someone' in this games roster to be labelled as LGBTQ, i just don't agree, it is not an important piece of information and it certainly has no bearing on the game itself, especially when the characters are pretty much interchangeable with everybody being able to learn everyone else's perks.
Lastly, and I'm going to try and say this as nicely as possible because i try to be a decent person and i do not know you enough to dislike you.....You are not a mod, you do not get to decide who is and isn't allowed to reply to a post you put up on a public forum. Anybody who puts up a post in any forum has to understand that in doing so, there are going to be opposing opinions. You are asking about a subject that many people have differing views on, and people are allowed to have those views as much as you are allowed yours.
Disagreeing with you is not derailing the thread or bullying you, and if you feel that way, the simplest reaction is to flag the post that offends you, just be aware flagging is not a guarantee that the post will be removed. Being the author of a thread does not give you the right to moderate it beyond requesting it be closed if you think it has gone too far awry. A mod will decide what is and is not appropriate here, not you.
Like our orientation, our opinions are perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
we all should have opinions i agree but when you say someones opinion is wrong and everything they say is wrong then you shouldnt deserve the right to express an opinion
Nobody in this thread has said anything of the sort, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.
well what do you think people do when they say im wrong and they shouldnt add a LGBTQ+ survivor with no facts or anything to back it and thats fine but when you constantly reply to someone about it then thats what i mean because there are a few examples of this in the thread
I know they just say you're wrong about this particular subject, because that's literally what they've been typing. You're imagining you're reading people saying you're wrong about everything ever instead of reading what's actually being said.
they are still saying im wrong on the subject what is the difference?
The difference is they're not saying the things you're imagining they are saying. If you were to actually read what is being said and reply only to the things that were said, you'd see that too.
they are saying im wrong. i reply and tell them literally what they are saying is the exact opposite of what i said like with the myers guy most of his posts was hims literally saying the opposite of what i was. i would say something and he would say no he wasnt that i was.
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@SoylentPixie said:
I really don't understand this need to have something like this defined i really don't, and before we go any further, yes i am a bisexual female, so i don't consider my view to be biased in any way shape or form. The LGBTQ society have been pushing for acceptance for a long time, its slowly been happening and gained great momentum over the years which is awesome. But guess what, with acceptance eventually comes the mundane, the normal. Aside from the hardcore objectors that scream 'Nope!' it's become a normal enough part of society that nobody cares if you are gay, bi, trans and so on.Personally i think that is a way healthier state of mind than applying some stigma to it. As for asking for 'someone' in this games roster to be labelled as LGBTQ, i just don't agree, it is not an important piece of information and it certainly has no bearing on the game itself, especially when the characters are pretty much interchangeable with everybody being able to learn everyone else's perks.
Lastly, and I'm going to try and say this as nicely as possible because i try to be a decent person and i do not know you enough to dislike you.....You are not a mod, you do not get to decide who is and isn't allowed to reply to a post you put up on a public forum. Anybody who puts up a post in any forum has to understand that in doing so, there are going to be opposing opinions. You are asking about a subject that many people have differing views on, and people are allowed to have those views as much as you are allowed yours.
Disagreeing with you is not derailing the thread or bullying you, and if you feel that way, the simplest reaction is to flag the post that offends you, just be aware flagging is not a guarantee that the post will be removed. Being the author of a thread does not give you the right to moderate it beyond requesting it be closed if you think it has gone too far awry. A mod will decide what is and is not appropriate here, not you.
Like our orientation, our opinions are perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
we all should have opinions i agree but when you say someones opinion is wrong and everything they say is wrong then you shouldnt deserve the right to express an opinion
Nobody in this thread has said anything of the sort, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.
well what do you think people do when they say im wrong and they shouldnt add a LGBTQ+ survivor with no facts or anything to back it and thats fine but when you constantly reply to someone about it then thats what i mean because there are a few examples of this in the thread
I know they just say you're wrong about this particular subject, because that's literally what they've been typing. You're imagining you're reading people saying you're wrong about everything ever instead of reading what's actually being said.
they are still saying im wrong on the subject what is the difference?
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@MichaelAMyers said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@MichaelAMyers said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@MichaelAMyers said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
i didnt say you had to leave i said you should since there is no reason for you to be here except to constantly tell me im wrong for wanting this so again why are you here whats the reason other than to bother me? just go away please.
- I do have a reason for being here and that's posting
- I never said you were wrong
- No one is bothering you and you playing the victim card because no one agrees with you? how old are you? 12? Like listen man I stated my opinion and clearly the majority agrees with me and even a user who is gay agreed they don't care.
a reason for being here is not to just post it states in the rules of the fourm you are not aloud to de-rail the post which you are by not even participating in the question i asked, also yes you said we shouldnt add a LGBTQ character since it isnt necessary. and yes you are bothering me and i am not playing the victim card since multiple people on here agreed with me and want this, i am 17, you can state your opinion all you want but you dont need to contantly post on this thread because of the sake of posting and the majority is not just agreeing with you its about 50/50 and not everyone has posted here. just because one gay person agreed with not adding this its probably because they dont like labels and i understand that but if your like me you take the label Gay and you make it you, it enpowers you and you say it with pride. if you dont say that your gay because you dont like labels then you probably arent sure that your gay or you went threw some kind of trauma that caused you not to want to label yourself. so again for like the 4th time just go, there is no reason for you to be here if your not going to participate in the thread and basically say no im not when i say you are. i say your bothering me and you sau no your not. i say you have no reason for posting here and you say your reason is to post. I say you stated that this is wrong and you say no you didnt.
You are the only one derailing it and I don't care for the rest of the things you said here now like I said no one really cares for a trivial concept such as "sexuality" for characters in such a video game if you care so much write a fanfic or something because I said "it doesn't really matter."
then if you dont care about it go away from my post theirs no reason for you to de-rail it any longer. and yes multiple people care about the concept of sexuality for characters in video games. look again i say he is de-railing it and he provides on proof and says i am. also i say there are people who care about a LGBTQ+ character being added and he says no one does. see guys? this is the exact definition of a internet troll. and i will just be igrnoring his posts for now on until they add the block feature to the fourms
YOU ARE THE ONE DERAILING IT! Stop quoting me back here! I'm not even trolling you just butthurt because everyone isn't agreeing with your "I need to force my sexuality to feel empowered!" Concept and yes block me! Jeeez for a 17 yr old you act like a 5 yr old.
OMG Really???? your so right im sorry for the way i acted and i would like to apologize by being your slave. do you accept DADDY!!!!
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@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@SoylentPixie said:
I really don't understand this need to have something like this defined i really don't, and before we go any further, yes i am a bisexual female, so i don't consider my view to be biased in any way shape or form. The LGBTQ society have been pushing for acceptance for a long time, its slowly been happening and gained great momentum over the years which is awesome. But guess what, with acceptance eventually comes the mundane, the normal. Aside from the hardcore objectors that scream 'Nope!' it's become a normal enough part of society that nobody cares if you are gay, bi, trans and so on.Personally i think that is a way healthier state of mind than applying some stigma to it. As for asking for 'someone' in this games roster to be labelled as LGBTQ, i just don't agree, it is not an important piece of information and it certainly has no bearing on the game itself, especially when the characters are pretty much interchangeable with everybody being able to learn everyone else's perks.
Lastly, and I'm going to try and say this as nicely as possible because i try to be a decent person and i do not know you enough to dislike you.....You are not a mod, you do not get to decide who is and isn't allowed to reply to a post you put up on a public forum. Anybody who puts up a post in any forum has to understand that in doing so, there are going to be opposing opinions. You are asking about a subject that many people have differing views on, and people are allowed to have those views as much as you are allowed yours.
Disagreeing with you is not derailing the thread or bullying you, and if you feel that way, the simplest reaction is to flag the post that offends you, just be aware flagging is not a guarantee that the post will be removed. Being the author of a thread does not give you the right to moderate it beyond requesting it be closed if you think it has gone too far awry. A mod will decide what is and is not appropriate here, not you.
Like our orientation, our opinions are perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
we all should have opinions i agree but when you say someones opinion is wrong and everything they say is wrong then you shouldnt deserve the right to express an opinion
Nobody in this thread has said anything of the sort, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.
well what do you think people do when they say im wrong and they shouldnt add a LGBTQ+ survivor with no facts or anything to back it and thats fine but when you constantly reply to someone about it then thats what i mean because there are a few examples of this in the thread
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@pemberley said:
Unpopular opinion but I think killers killing should be more common.I think it would be cool if killers had the option to kill a survivor if it’s their third down or they’re going into the last phase on hook. They should be rewarded for their hard work - and survivors should remember they’re in a horror game and not a ring around the rosy tea party.
well the problem with this is that your suppose to sacrifice survivors to the entity and if you could mori survivors not only would it do what @Cetren said but would make the entity displeased
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@MojoTheFabulous said:
It doesn't reveal Freddy if you are awake but Alert will still play the sound. I used it against a Freddy yesterday and it was quite amusing to have the Perk frequently going oFF and not revealing anything to me.yeah same and it also kept activating when the killer would do non breaking things like picking up survivors and stuff
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@ProfoundEnding said:
Please...this is what we need