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@MegaDwight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2340613#Comment_2340613
You are welcome to get personal if it helps you to feel better about the truth, that you need to keep your emotions in check. This is true for real life as well. Since apparently nobody has had that talk with you, youre welcome.
It seems that everything is personal to you. While you are the one making new accounts to rile the people up.
I get the same vibes from you like from the recent troll that got banned.
I don't know a single person irl or online that never got frustrated with a video game. It is a normal thing.
You must understand why I find your posts weird.
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MegaDwight no offense but you strike me as a wannabe psychopath.
While it is true that a normal person can keep their emotions in check somewhat, never feeling frustration with the game or other players is unrealistic.
So you are either not being honest or you are not an average person.
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Best joke I ever heard.
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Inb4 someone saying: "Do you expect the game to work on old consoles if it is in store?"
Yes?
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They removed the "mid chapter" announcement for some reason.
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"Fix" lol.
If you still believe they will fix this I don't what to say tbh. Pack your things, it is over.
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@WishIcouldmain said:
They said they would have improvements for The Mid-Chapter it better be phenomenal.
They said last update will improve performance and it got worse too.
You people should start waking up. It is over.
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Tommorow.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337736#Comment_2337736
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337724#Comment_2337724
At this point, I just assume that any patch will make the issues worse.
Lol. Can't disagree with that. But I want to see if it can get any worse at least. :D
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@Predated said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337834#Comment_2337834
Yeah, because their core game wasnt made with Unity Blueprints and with actual code. But even those games tend to run much worse on 5 year old hardware.
Which was the original argument. I dont disagree with DBD needing a code rework, because it obviously does. The game wasnt designed to have 20 killers added to the game, the game wasnt designed to have 600 perks. And each update, the game obviously has a harder and harder time performing well with new additions. But that doesnt take away the fact that you DO have to update your hardware if you want to play newer releases. It's not a 5 year old game, its a game that was released 5 years ago. There is a big difference between those 2. One remains stable on PC's from 2016, the other does not.(and that is assuming people bought a PC with the newest hardware in 2016, which might not even be the case, my PC in 2015 was created with parts that were released in 2011 and 2014, it couldnt handle DBD and other games and this Januari I upgraded my PC because my hardware was obviously outdated).
Not even adding to the fact that even if your hardware is theoretically supposed to be able to handle the game, that doesnt mean your hardware actually is able to handle the game. Unless you've been actively maintaining your hardware once every 3 months to make sure everything is cleaned and no wires are being strained. Otherwise that GPU from 2017 might only have a lifetime of 3 years instead of 7.
I am not asking for a game to look flawless and run like on pc. If they are still selling the game on last gen, it should at least work.
If the game is freezing every second it is not in condition to be sold. I am not sorry for spending money on the game since I had a good time playing it before. But imagine people who are buying it now in this condition.
I am sorry. I defended bhvr a lot in the past but this is not excusable. And look at the condition they released the game on switch.
I can't defend this.
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@Predated said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337349#Comment_2337349
To be fair, you cant really call a game that's constantly recieving updates a 5 year old game. You could install the 2016 version of DBD and play it just fine. 5.0 is by all definitions a 2021 game.
Could this game be better performance-wise if they recoded the entire game to have a better core? Yes, definitely, but it IS a 2021 game. League of Legends 2021 doesnt perform well on a pc from 2010, even though its a 10 year old game. Same for Minecraft. So yes, if you have an older rig and refuse to update your hardware even though the software keeps recieving updates, at one point, your hardware will fail on you because the software requires better hardware.
SSD is getting cheaper every 3 months, its almost never worth getting an HDD anymore if you enjoy playing games. Developers in the majority of companies are going to assume you're able to at least buy an SSD. Heck, I've connected my SSD and HDD together, where my HDD can preload neccesary files to my SSD so I can keep my SSD relatively clean and empty. Let alone the fact that there are many reasons to buy an SSD over an HDD too other than just loadspeeds.
Yeah, if DBD is your only game, it's a bit much for a price, but if your graphics card starts failing, if your processor starts failing, it will need replacement, if DBD is your only game, all those costs are also needed to make a "5 year old game" playable, because BHVR isnt going to make the game work for outdated hardware.
There are better looking games with more players in the lobby that are updated too. And the difference is, they work.
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337345#Comment_2337345
It shattered performance for PC as well, the only ones who aren't feeling it are the ones with extremely high-end setups.
Sorry to hear that. :(
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@danielmaster87 said:
I'll just wait until the game is playable. I'm not playing this game in this garbage state.
Are you hopeful that will happen? Some of us aren't.
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No patches planned for tommorow right?
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I am surprised and kinda sad how many people will keep to endure this because they like the game so much.
I just can't no matter how much I like it, I feel like crap playing it in it's current state. It doesn't bring me enjoyment because you can hardly do any good plays.
It is like watching a slide show.
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@GrimoireWeiss said:
My last tolerance day is the 15th, exactly 1 month after the release of the chapter that broke last gen. If it doesn't get at least in the level it was before the update, I'm uninstalling and putting my money into a game that actually functions properly.
I already spent too much money on this game, buying almost every chapter and the Rift. I'm not spending 100 bucks just to run DBD when the other 70 games on my PS4 run perfectly fine.
Yeah that is fair. I mean one month of this situation is pushing it. Not to mention how they made the game worse in last update week ago. How did they manage to do that?
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@OopsAllHexes said:
You're implying that people are just choosing not to switch.
Reminder that DBD is still not a complex game, PS4s can run games like Apex Legends perfectly fine and not chug whatsoever. The devs have YandereDev level coding skills.
What is a SSD anyways?
I am not implying anything. I am in that situation myself.
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@Shdw_Void said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDvuxwD716s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwwCRw3Va0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaNG3S0pK7M
I'm Back with round six of new clips showing how enjoyable the console experience is. Losing distance in chases as well as botching the loop is one way to get outplayed by the game. Just play better I guess.
In regards to the talk of SSDs, If it works then that's great for those that wish to spend the money. I personally will not be purchasing one as it is not worth the investment for me. I own a computer more than capable of running this game. I only play dbd on xbox because I am not restarting 100 days worth of playtime just for a better experience. I'm not gonna buy an SSD for almost eight year old hardware so I can play one game in a better state.
It should not be our responsibility to find ways to make the game run better. This game is capable of running smooth as butter on consoles. BHVR either can't fix it, choose not to, or aren't allowed the time to. I am in agreement with those that say we need an "Operation Health" Chapter. what is the point of releasing new DLC when I can't even use the new killer power in the first place. The freezes went from 0-1 seconds, to 2-3 when Nemesis came out, to now 4 or more seconds of freezing after the latest patches.
If I'm being honest I don't really want to play this game anymore, and that's coming from someone who's been playing at least bi-weekly since July 2018. I cannot outplay survivors when the game freezes at crucial moments. Same deal with playing survivor. I'm not even getting outplayed. It is the game itself giving me the finger as I try to do anything of value. I lag forward as well as even backwards sometimes as shown in the Ghostface clip. But as long as this forum post exists, I will continue to play and highlight just how trashy performance has become.
I feel ya man. I would play myself if it wasn't so frustrating to do so. We all understand why you feel like quitting.
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Then don't watch? Easy.
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Cosmetics I am not able to use atm.
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@Edgars_Raven said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2336329#Comment_2336329
Nobody is suggesting you should have to go out and by one certainly. Knowing this info does 2 things:
1) for those who can affird it and are whatever about it its an easy solution.
2) and more importantly it may help the devs diagnose SOME of the issues as they can be difficult to pinpoint
HOPEFULLY they can use the information to fix the problem so people that cant afford it get the issue resolved
That is not what I meant. I already said that it is good that there is ssd for people that are willing to do it in my other posts.
I am just stating that for some of us it is not worth it, that's it. I am not against it at all. I am glad that it works for people.
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@Anniehere said:
BHVR does not update details on such things unless it's something critical that needs to be reported immediately.
I think after the next mid- chapter update, we will get more news. if not then news about the maps that are currently not working properly.
So people on last gen freezing every second is not a serious issue?
Sadly you are probably right, no one cares.
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@Razorbeam said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2336300#Comment_2336300
I only remembered today I had a spare SSD still in my bunch of parts, cable arrives tomorrow I'll update with the results, if it really is the miracle cure like everyone says it is, you can technically fix the problem for the price of another game.
Should you have to, absolutely not.
The problem is that for some of us those things are much more expensive, depending where we live.
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@Luciferr_2nd said:
Imagine spending that much money just to get a 5 year old game to run smoothly...
Its not worth it
Dude. I am not buying it myself but if people can play the game that way and it makes them happy why judge them?
What is your solution? Some people can't give up the game and don't have other options atm. Not everyone can just stop playing like some of us or wait for a fix (which most likely won't ever come).
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@Neamy said:
Here's my survivor one, not my best match, but I was mostly messing around, edit: this isn't a ps4 pro
Didn't see a chase or you getting hit (maybe you did later) but still it is smooth like in TS's videos and it is not even a pro.
We can conclude that it definitely helps now even if it is a base ps4.
Thanks for posting.
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Some people really like the game and can't give it up. Some are unable to get the new consoles or pc's (also no pc cross-progression) so that is their only option now.
And yeah there is a high probability that it won't be fixed. I would be surprised if they improve it at this point.
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2335085#Comment_2335085
There was also a big difference in survivor matches. I was actually going to post videos anyway, so here you go.
This is before the SSD (killer: Doc):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDyKIQTj8tY
This match is after moving DbD to the SSD (killer: Nemesis):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq5gMfVRAb4
I'm not sure if that string of great skill checks in the second video is because the game is running better or if it was just a fluke.
And I don't blame you for not wanting to go out and get an SSD. The one I got was $120 for 1TB (on sale for $20 off at Best Buy, woo), it's not a small purchase, and it should not be necessary. BHVR needs to fix/optimize their game, it did not run this poorly before the RE chapter.
EDIT: Here are a couple clips I posted previously of pre-SSD console survivor life in case you missed them, these are peachy: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2329939#Comment_2329939
Thank you, you are too kind. Well at least now we know that there is an option for people on last gen who are willing to do it.
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2334628#Comment_2334628
Sure. Here are some Nemesis clips from before I got the SSD. I'm on a PlayStation 4 Pro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeBrb6bWCQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjFbl_fdMmQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAODFjivA8Y
This one's a beaut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsmk2g4sc68
Rather than a clip, this is a few minutes long so you can see how this isn't a once-a-match occurrence, this happens often and it's painful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzq1of9vAZc
Now, here's a full match after I moved the game to a Samsung Portable SSD T5 1TB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjkZaWKLITg
There are literally only a couple places where the frames drop. The difference is night and day.
Didn't watch the whole games, only parts of last two videos to compare nemesis tentacle.
That is actually a big difference from what I have seen. Are survivor games like that too? You don't have to post em we believe you.
Didn't expect this much of a difference, thanks for posting. I won't buy ssd just for this game tho.
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@0mikeya0 said:
I hope they extend the event and also the rift because its just unplayable. I cannot complete the challenges
There might be a chance this won't be ever fixed. They removed the announcement about -performance issues being looked into- a few days ago and said they did it to put new announcement. Do you see anything yet?
I think it could be safe to say now that it is over. Wish I was wrong.
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@Neamy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2334477#Comment_2334477
I can do two of those tonight then I'll put the link in
Thank you. Much appreciated.
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I don't want to be that guy but...
"I took the message down because we had other messages to go up with regards to the Event."
3 days later...
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By not playing.
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@Razorbeam said:
Yeah it's not a miracle fix, but it has allowed me to use killer powers a lot more reliably.
It is easy to try it out so others should too if they are still playing. If it helps them enough it makes some difference like it did for you even better.
Thanks again for experimenting and letting us know even if it didn't do enough for me to keep playing.
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@TragicSolitude said:
I hate to say it, but I went to Best Buy today and bought a SSD to improve performance on my PS4 Pro. Yes, it seems to work, the game is much smoother now. I'm justifying it with the hope that the Warhammer games' performance will also improve some, since those can turn into slideshows at times (I haven't tested it out yet). DbD is still hurt by loud fans, occasional frame drops, and that damn white flickering. The devs need to fix this nonsense.
Can you upload a game or two on youtube? I already have your channel, but others might want to see the difference too. If it is not too much to ask of course.
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^ This is a placebo most likely. Had a game on my normal settings again and it was better than the one before. I mean you can try it regardless. There is nothing to lose.
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This year it was Legion for me.
Years back. Huntress, Myers and Wraith.
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@Neamy said:
I currently have a ssd in my ps4, and I have not seen any of the lagging/optimization problems I read about constantly. My son doesn't have one and we play a lot together, sometimes I'll be loading in as killer and still see survivors 4-5 seconds into a match not moving (due to lethal pursuer). So, personally, I think it's great
Can you upload one of your games on youtube? Preferably with nemesis but any other killer is fine. Playing as survivor too would be nice so we can see both sides.
If you don't know about ps recording I can explain how to do it. It is easy.
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How much did we care when dbd on switch was released in a state it was and still is?
Maybe we deserve this.
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I will try the game in 720p with supersampling off and edit my post after.
Edit: A little better. Not much and not in acceptable state yet. For people who still want to play despite everything do this. I will do one or two more games for the amusement but that is probably it. Back to not playing after that.
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I have supersampling on tho, should I try turning it off? Boost mode is on but I assume that is fine.
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@Razorbeam said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2333898#Comment_2333898
Just to confirm, are you on PS4 pro and do you have it set to 1080p or 4k ?
Ps4 pro. Set recording to 30s and "dimensions to 1280x720.
I didn't touch the resolution. It is automatic. But the only options for me are 720 and 1080 so I assume it is 1080. Better resolutions are unsupported for me.
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Nope. Still the same as survivor. Random freezes during a game. In chase, multiple freezes after you get hit... the usual stuff. Still unplayable for me, but thanks for trying.
Wanted to try this at least.
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I am just going to keep loging in for shards until that is over. After that I am probably going to forget about dbd for a while if it isn't fixed by then.
I am already losing interest in watching streams and browsing forums since I can't play the game anymore.
For those that are still playing the game on last gen in its current state, I suggest not torturing yourself too much. Play games that actually work. Unless you are still having fun more than you are annoyed.
Peace out for now.
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I mean I love Lisa too but these are serious issues op is talking about lol.
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Wow dude you are something else.
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No new announcement yet after they removed the previous one yesterday.
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Good trapper gets in my head.
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We lost another one.
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@Ghouled_Mojo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2327083#Comment_2327083
Halloween 2020 start of event. Had to look at old posts.
Thanks. I only played dbd during spring last year so I missed that. Was it really this kind of bad?
Maybe they will fix it then.