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@terumisan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032550#Comment_4032550
pallet breaking build with corrupt with a low timer. i don't believe these screenshots
Are you calling me a liar?
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@ImWinston said:
- No guys, I know you have the best intentions and genuinely want to help, but these must be people who do this for the money, who use "aseptic" methods and have no emotional connection to DBD. People who don't care if Blight gets nerfed or if the number of pallets in "The Game" is halved (I'm just giving two random examples).
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032784#Comment_4032784
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032780#Comment_4032780
Except, people who have no ties to DBD also don't play DBD…. which means they certainly can't make informed choices on the balance of DBD.
Best way to do it is to pick people who do not have a financial stake in DBD.
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@runningguy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032773#Comment_4032773
there are many clips on youtube of survivors playing stealth if you search for it. i have literally used stealth many times to keep a killer busy without being in chase. make a loud noise, and use stealthy skills to remain unseen while the killer spends ages looking. they move away, i make another loud noise, they come back and search. several killers have DC'd over it because like 2 gens have popped while they have been searching for a ghost.
Oh yeah, I see rat gameplay all the time.
Hate seeing it.
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@runningguy said:
lol i do enjoy these "tunneling is bad" posts… the means to counter it are there. learn to loop, learn to lose line of sight, learn to stealth, learn to make better decisons (when in chase run away from the gens), generally learn to play. so many people have this 1 track mindset of survivor role of loop loop loop and when that fails they throw a tantrum and say "there is no counter".
let me fill you in on a little secret….. there is more to playing survivor than looping. you dont have to get chased at all if you play it right.
Where's the footage
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@Classic_Rando said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032700#Comment_4032700
Seeing your previous posts, at least you can show some evidence that you actually play the killer side (even though the player stats are bogus). I can respect a difference with players who have experience on both sides. It’s the ones who don’t that I have an issue with.
I agree, the stats are bogus.
They didn't even record me when I was a full-on tryhard Killer main. Only after I started playing more chill lol
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@Classic_Rando said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032525#Comment_4032525
Can you show us how braindead easy killer is? So many of your posts are just complaining about how hard survivor is and how easy killer. Why do you feel this way? Do you actually play killer? If not, then how do you know it’s easy? If you’re only saying this because you have a hard time playing survivor, and you don’t have any experience as killer, maybe it’s just an issue with how you play survivor.
Think about it this way: what if I can on here and constantly posted about how braindead easy survivor is? How would you respond to that? Would you believe it? I assume that you would either not believe it and/or ask for proof to back up that opinion.Can't speak for them, but Killer is pretty easy.
The asinine changes to pallets during the update before this one were annoying but didn't affect overall strength much.
These changes, however, do buff Killers that were already performing well.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032645#Comment_4032645
Besides the ones that you oversimplified,which perks are in play, what killer it is, the playstyle of survivors, is anyone bodyblocking, when and how is the survivor getting unhooked, off the top of my head.
All those things matter, true.
Almost all of them feed into my point.
Simply saying, "Get good at looping" is massively unhelpful.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032612#Comment_4032612
your argument boils down to bad matchmaking and solo/swf gap. there are so many factors that you’re ignoring
Elaborate?
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032612#Comment_4032612
I think you are misunderstanding my point.
I'm not saying that "learning to loop" is the counter to tunneling. I'm saying that, if you "learn to loop" killers who tunnel you, will more often than not, lose the game by doing so because they aren't spreading pressure, and you are able to last longer than 5 seconds against them.
The games where i see tunneling work, are games where the survivor goes down 10 seconds into the chase, the games where it doesn't work, are games where a survivor can loop the shack forcing the 3 window vault, stunning at a filler, heading to a jungle gym and repeating the process forcing the down to take 1-2 minutes each time.
Once again, everything I said still applies. As does what @jesterkind said.
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@Reinami said:
The point to that is tunneling is far less effective if the survivor can actually loop. It takes too long to down someone when they are constantly aware. Generally the killer needs to rely on getting the drop on a stationary survivor doing a gen, or healing, or other thing to land a quick first hit. But if y ou are just chasing them constantly they are able to run you for a long time.
Yeah, you might still die, but the killer throws the match to get that 1 kill.
This relies on too many variables to be considered a reliable form of counterplay. Let's go over some of those quickly.
You need to be significantly better than the Killer. Tunneling takes far less skill to pull off than it does to counter. Now, with the matchmaker being ass, this isn't so unlikely, but it will still be uncommon.
The map needs to be able to support a long chase. Many maps, even prior to these pallet updates, were not capable of supporting long chases by design. Post-update, most maps are lacking pallets and if not, lacking safe pallets.
You need your teammates to both recognize the tunnel and immediately slam gens. Unless you're in a 4-man, the odds are massively against you here.
You actually need to be the one getting tunneled. Most Killers, when they find someone who might actually loop them, will just leave and find someone else who can't. If that happens, and they get tunneled, theres nothing you can do.
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At this point, I'll do it for free.
This is just wildly frustrating.
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@PetTheDoggo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032553#Comment_4032553
At least from comments I have read it seemed to be minority.
Before this patch what I have seen most what basically just asking for revert of previous "QoL" change. Except few maps, which actually needed it like Borgo, or Haddonfield.
So I would say devs should be blamed for current situation, not killers in general.I'm not blaming them in general, just those specific people for being massively tone-deaf.
I put more blame on CC's who flipped the ######### out as soon as BHVR touched tunneling and slugging.
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Because there were people who wanted this, and people celebrating this, and more saying people are overreacting.
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@tyantlmumagjiaonuha said:
The pallet density remains high, but the loop's safety has changed significantly. You should focus more than ever on either extending the distance per lap by utilizing connections between pallets and windows, or skillfully directing pallets to hit the Killer directly.
Previously, some maps allowed for a 5gen chase just by mindlessly touring the pallets, but such easy games are no longer possible going forward.
PS. Is Disturbed Ward's main building bugged? I encountered instances where 6 pallets spawned and others where only 2 spawned.
"Pallet density remains high"
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For the thousandth time, you can get up on top of the rocks on Ormond again.
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@grumpelfox said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032157#Comment_4032157
what·a·bout·ism/ˌ(h)wədəˈboudizəm/nounnoun: whataboutism
- the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.
Ironic, since you immediately brought up world records when asked a simple question about if the update was good or not.
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@grumpelfox said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4032149#Comment_4032149
they havent made a good update in years . do you know what the world record for 5 gens + opening the gates and escaping is … 2 minutes… and 45 seconds. tell me how is that healthy . the devs want to "respect the players time " right but how is a killers time respected ?
What's the 4K streak record again?
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@Brimp said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031965#Comment_4031965
Historically its true.
Thank you Brimp.
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@thrive2survive said:
The filters are pretty gross. Why is one map fart green and another map varicose vein blue? Makes 0 sense. Just make the graphics of the game better and you won't need these ugly filters. Go for that semi realistic look that a game like Outlast Trials has please and thank you. Very bright and realistic lighting where it's need and much darker where it isn't.
We all know DBD could look so much better in general.. This games graphics are dated and nothing about them screams UE5. New Gas Heaven gives me old Haddonfield cartoon town vibes honestly..
They probably can't make them better without breaking the game.
DBD has always looked like a PS3 game
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One pallet in a 32m radius, and it's a rock filler.
@tes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031839#Comment_4031839
Can you bring WOO to custom and show density + loops u claim became weaker?
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@GentlemanFridge said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031713#Comment_4031713
I was personally thinking of changing it to Smelling Salts, and give it different art too.
Also avoids confusion with the perk Adrenaline.
I agree "Anti-Exhaustion Syringe" feels rather clunky.
Had a visceral flashback to the time I had smelling salts while playing hockey.
Those salts are no joke.
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@runningguy said:
try less complaining, more learning to actually play
I'm gonna be real. This is exactly what I expected to happen, but man, this is bad.
The double asylum pallets were horrific, but this is just as bad. There's nothing out there lol
Zero other pallets within 32 meters.
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May as well call the Anti-Exhaustion Syringe the Adrenaline Shot or Adrenaline Syringe.
Just sounds cleaner.
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@Brimp said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031222#Comment_4031222
Hard to say as aiming for kill rates to balance is not how you balance things. There's a reason why other games balance usually around some characters having abnormally high win rates which if what you're saying is true… it's why I laugh at the notion you can easily get a 70% kill rate on ghost face.
It further reinforced my thought that you go against actual gutter tier skill of player if you actually have a 90% kill rate on ghost face. Please play against survivors that actually have a brain for 10 games and come back to me with your average kill rate because 90% is SUPER abnormally high for such a limited kit as ghost face. Any experienced player in any sort of game will tell you a 90% kill rate on a HARD limited character is only achievable by going against the lowest of the lows. But since you have a 90% kill rate on ghost face he clearly needs nerfs right?
I never said anything about soloq going to suffer. I said even if soloq some killers can still be extremely weak or strong. Which still holds true. I've seen soloq games against good blights that still resulted in someone escaping even if the blight played efficiently. So the real issue of soloq is not even kill rates or anything its just lack of comms.I'm above average as a player, probably washed by now, so I figured that accounts for my 86% average KR.
The odds of me never playing against good Survivors and maintaining such a high KR is approximately zero. I've done the same thing with other Killers. Legion, Nemesis, etc etc
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@Brimp said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031202#Comment_4031202
If you look on nightlight right now the best kill rate is legit 60% and held by Freddy lol. Some killers are dropping nearly to the 40% mark. And that just shows that once you take out all the survivor that are bad in the normal queue. This game is WAY worse than you originally think.
Kill rates are NOT a one all concrete indication of the balance for the game and never was. It's a sign yes but just that a sign. This is why I laugh at the indication "you can easily get a 70% KR on ghost face" because that only implies you go against bot level of skill in your games. It's the whole reason I use "against good/competent survivors" since THATS what we should be balancing around as those are what indicate (or at least more accurately indicate) a killer being weak or strong even IF soloq.Ah yes, the infamously unreliable NightLight. NightLight has consistently underreported KR's. It's also such a tiny sample size that it's statistically irrelevant.
I agree, KR isn't an end-all-be-all solution. Generally speaking though, 60% is the Devs target (which I think is a bad choice, but whatever) and Killers are either hitting or exceedingly that. Why would we buff that? What is your ideal KR? 70%? 75%? At what point do we stop and say, "Hey, this might be too much." Is it only when you are satisfied?
Ah yes, because I think it's possible to get 70% KR with GF, that means I only play against trash players. Of course. It couldn't be that I'm actually decent with him, or that maybe I play in a way that you don't. No, that's inconceivable.
I said 70% because I subtracted 20% from my own KR to make it accessible to the average player.
I'm also glad to hear you think Solo Q can go ######### themselves. "Who cares if Solo Q has a 2% Escape Rate, I'm finally fulfilling the ego feedback loop I always wanted, now I don't have to try against good/competent (probably not) players either!"
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@Brimp said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031196#Comment_4031196
Top tiers right now are unironically a necessary evil. Until survivors receive nerfs there NEEDS to be top tiers in their current states. And no this isn't a "1% of the playerbase" type take its more of a "Survivors can do extremely well against most of the roster if they have a functioning brain" type take.
So how high are the KR's supposed to go?
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All that to be told that Killers average a 60% KR.
If the game feels rigged against you constantly, it might just be you, at least on the Killer side. The game is literally designed to favor you getting a positive outcome.
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@Dokta_Carter said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031160#Comment_4031160
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031166#Comment_4031166
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4031161#Comment_4031161
Its not about consolation prize, or amazing things. Its about the progress. Even if its small and minute its still progress.
It may be 5 s more but it's still better then the live we had before it.
No.
Just no.
This idea of giving BHVR praise for this absolute failure is what got us here in the first place.
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This change doesn't really do anything.
I'm not giving them props for spending 3 months on a number change that couldve been done in a day.
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@Hannacia said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030048#Comment_4030048
I've noticed people here tend to downvote posts that have anything negative towards survivors and anything positive towards killers. I also think its the same people always downvoting.
Many people here are heavily biased towards survivor side and cannot see the game from both sides since they rarely or never play killer.
I also agree that the devs have lost the plot. Survey was heavily survivor sided, and i am actually little scared of the upcoming update.
Because of how it is framed and the history of the poster behind it.
Other than kneejerk downvotes, that's why people don't like it.
Honestly, I thought about responding to it, but what's the point?
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Pallet density is a bad update.
It didn't fix deadzones, nor did it fix bad maps like Haddonfield.
We should've gone through, map by map, and fixed them. Not map sweeping changes to how tile generation works.
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It's fine, I guess?
The Haste is probably better than Endurance, neither really help with tunneling. The best strategy to counter this is still to just hit them immediately.
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I played my way out of it, tbh.
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@OmegaXII said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030796#Comment_4030796
It doesn't have to be intentional. With current pallet density, any map is the same LOL.
Anyway, I don't DC, and I don't think anyone should DC because of in-game stuff. It's a PVP game, and DC ruins everybody's experience.
I mean, it does make it worse if it's intentional, imo.
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@crogers271 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030609#Comment_4030609
I think that is true. I've been comparing things to the 3 gen and AFC camp changes - BHVR went into those with a 'this is going to happen' attitude, a clear intent on what level they wanted to change, and were open to modifying around the edges but not the entire concept. They avoided the doomsayers, even pointing out in the forums takes that didn't make sense, and were able to focus on dealing with an extreme issue. I wish they had been able to approach these quality of life changes with the same focus.
True, but they've also had their mind set on some really horrible things as well.
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@Dokta_Carter said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030741#Comment_4030741
Woah roughly 24ish seconds on the first one you must have double taked at that speed
And that second one was peak "well well well if it isnt the consequences to my own actions" from the survivor
I actually remember that game quite well.
I think that was the only gen they ended up doing, maybe they got one more near the end lol. But I was definitely worried for a second and had to lock in and start being serious.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ihAb0m2jM
One of the faster gen completions I've seen, around twenty seconds or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMqolzEeHjgBM and overconfidence is a weakness few exploit.
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@tes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030373#Comment_4030373
Это и есть бессмысленно и останется таковым для меня. Разработчики борются со стилем игры, а не техническими проблемами и ограниченными механиками. Они пытаются обозначить то, как играют в их игру, главной проблемой. Они винят игроков, потому что это делают другие игроки.
Люди будут жаловаться на генраш и туннель всю свою жизнь. Уйдет туннель, появится что-то другое — фокус будет на нем. Потому что люди из-за этого проигрывают. Потому что это не дает им преимущества. Но для меня это просто нытье людей и всегда им останется. Люди расстраиваются не из-за «это нечестно, меня ограничили». Им грустно потому что они проигрывают, и пытаясь оправдаться, они ищат в этом глубокий смысл. Не хотят брать мета перки чтобы защититься от тунеля (оправдание), жалуются что умирают слишком быстро (тоже оправдание, ибо это исправляется самим игроком), жалуются на уровень киллера (что можно исправить правильным ММР). У них есть шанс играть с метой, или быть лучше, не тратя слишком много времени. Даже в соло, и я убедилась на себе, самостоятельно. Они просто не хотят менять что-то в себе, но пытаются заставить поменяться других игроков. Для меня это лицемерие.
Проблема в первую очередь в БХВР, а не в том как игроки хотят играть. Накажешь людей за туннель/генраш = накажешь за эффективную мету. Уберешь одно, оставишь другое = наказываешь людей за то что они играют правильно, и навязываешь им мораль. Уже звучит отвратительно. Проблема ПТБ была в том что они попытались потакать только одной стороне, отчего вторая возмутилась. В таких случаях они ничего не добьются. Я всегда видела и буду видеть здесь одно лицемерие. Если бы они серьезно занерфили генраш — кто знает, может люди бы не так агрессивно принимали что у них забирают единственный ответ на чужую мету. Но для меня и то и то трогать абсурд. Реакция на генраш и туннель должна идти от игрока, а не игры. Пусть хотя бы научатся фиксить баги и придумают новый способ ММР, пусть они займутся реальным QoL. А то как хотят играть люди они должны оставить в покое. Пока игра не будет технически нормально функционировать.
Как я уже сказал, я думаю, что это одно из отличий между нашими двумя регионами. Некоторые считают, что игру нужно изменить, а другие считают, что в этом нет необходимости. Справедливости ради стоит отметить, что другие «механики», похожие на туннелинг, были удалены ранее, и это пошло игре на пользу. Никто не расстраивается из-за исчезновения фейс-кемпинга или мета с тремя генераторами.
Я не думаю, что нужно заставлять игроков покупать перки, чтобы получить хороший матч; на мой взгляд, это плохой дизайн. Если вы вынуждены покупать DLC для перка, чтобы вас не туннелировали или не ген-рашировали, это плохо.
Я считаю, что ген-рашинг гораздо сложнее, чем туннелинг. Любой новый игрок может это делать, а вот ген-рашинг — нет. Однако я согласен, что мы должны дать убийце что-то взамен. Нечто не такое мощное, как туннелирование, но что-то хорошее, и я не видел этого в последнем тесте.
Я согласен, что BHVR нужно работать над другими вещами, просто не думаю, что они могут сделать это эффективно. Возможно, я слишком устал от того, что восемь лет наблюдал за их неудачами в создании нормально функционирующей игры.
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I do my best and then go play something else.
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@Ragna_Rock said:
Try playing killer for once. And I mean really play it.
been playing. What now?
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@crogers271 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030348#Comment_4030348
We've got the abandon system, which has allowed them to make it look like survivor escape numbers are far better than they actually are.
So quicker losing and gaslighting.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030265#Comment_4030265
The thing I don't get: why even bother? If this is BHVR's stance, just keep pumping new content until the game collapses under its weight. But they actively denied themselves money by delaying content and then failed to deliver on multiple things they said would be coming.
Because I don't think BHVR is malicious. I think they do genuinely want to improve the game, and had good intentions for this initiative.
I just think they are incompetent.
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@tes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030323#Comment_4030323
I think a lot of English-speaking content creators have been pushing the idea of tunneling being the meta strategy
Русский был не плох, не знаю писал ли ты это с помощью переводчика, но ошибок я не нашла. Но в этом нет нужды. Моя русская речь имеет такие же конструкции как и в английском языке. Сомневаюсь ты узнаешь что-то новое если мы будем использовать его) Генраш и туннель равнозначны в восприятии игроков из регионов в которые я играю. Это одно и то же. Мы просто не считаем что противоположная сторона играет ради нашего удовольствия. Мы ожидаем агрессии и дискомфорта, это противники, в конце концов. Я не отрицаю что среди русских есть люди жалующиеся на туннель, но их не воспринимают серьезно в сообществе. Поэтому я никогда не обижаюсь на “bully squads” от выживших, или агрессивную игру. Я регулярно играла в кастомки с таким стилем, за и против. Как выживший я не жалуюсь на туннель, это закончилось после первой сотни часов. Лично для меня в этой игре стиль игроков самая последняя проблема.
Средний уровень игры в этом коммьюнити в целом очень примитивен. Между игроками разного уровня слишком большая пропасть. Ограничение игроков которые не играют ради комфорта других никогда не будет решением. Их только разделять и больше учить казуальных игроков, реально их поощряя. Они в очередной раз отменили ПТБ. Бороться с туннелем также бессмысленно как и с генрашом, даже разработчики это частично осознают. Это просто потакание определенной стороне и не решает проблем.
I hope I finally can transfer my message.
Я пишу по памяти и очень ценю ваши комплименты. Я рад, что все часы, проведенные за обучением, по-прежнему дают мне новые способы общения.
Понятно, так что генераторный рывок = туннелирование. Это не редкая точка зрения, даже среди американских игроков. Я думаю, что многие игроки хотят, чтобы игра была интересной для них, и мало заботятся о другой стороне. Похоже, многие, как и вы, считают, что игра такая, какая есть, и не наша задача ее менять. В конце концов, мы можем играть только в рамках игры. В некотором смысле я согласен, что это не наша задача. В другом смысле я чувствую, что должен быть защитником и использовать свой опыт, чтобы помочь ВСЕМ нашим игрокам, независимо от того, на какой они стороне. Я вижу жалобы на ген-раш, туннелинг, отключения и токсичность. Я стараюсь сбалансировать все это с помощью своего опыта и улучшить условия для игроков. Думаю, разница в том, что я считаю, что должен выступать за изменения и пытаться улучшить ситуацию более непосредственно, в то время как многие игроки на вашей стороне мира считают, что должны играть по правилам игры, какими они являются СЕЙЧАС, а не какими они могут быть в будущем.
Да, средние игроки терпят поражение от тех, кто обладает большими навыками. Игра плохо учит чему-либо, и бремя обучения ложится на создателей контента. Я считаю, что так быть не должно, и мы с вами согласны в этом.
Я не считаю, что это бессмысленная борьба. Думаю, Killer были бы счастливее, если бы не чувствовали, что их заставляют туннелировать, чтобы оставаться конкурентоспособными по отношению к Survivors. Думаю, мы должны принять подход, который учитывает обе стороны. Наказание, да, но также и вознаграждение для тех, кто этого не делает. Стратегия слишком сильна, но ее использование не является неправильным.
Если мы ослабим эту стратегию, но предоставим бонус за использование других, разве это не будет лучше? Разве это не будет способствовать появлению большего количества стилей игры и не улучшит настроение тех, кто не любит туннелирование? Я думаю, что мы должны стремиться к этому.
Я рад, что BHVR отказалась от изменений, связанных с туннелированием. Последнее тестирование было неудачным, а предыдущее было более удачным. Да, изменения были нужны, но это был хороший старт. Вместо этого они зря потратили все наше время и терпение на бесполезную систему, которая никогда не будет использоваться. Очень печально.
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@OmegaXII said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030229#Comment_4030229
Oh yeah, if tunnelling is already too strong, why did you say killers need tunnel to win? You can't be right in both case, right?
Complicated question.
Are we trying to do a 'gotcha' moment or are you genuinely curious?
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@OmegaXII said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030229#Comment_4030229
Lol tunnelling is too strong. Maybe it's too strong for you with 12k hours in game, and so does survivor's stuff when they have the proper knowledge of how to use everything to their advantage.
Besides, if tunnelling is too strong for you, you could just stop tunnelling in your own will, you know. NO ONE forces you to tunnel when you have 90% Kill Rates.
According to the stats site, I have less than 2K. Is that true? No, but it's funny 😂
Yes, it's certainly quite a bit of overkill when I'm far more experienced than my opponents.
I haven't tunneled, unless I either know the team or they show me that they aren't randoms, in quite a few years. Not much reason to go all-out on a bunch of normal players, what could I possibly get out of that besides ego? I don't learn, I don't improve my skills.
So, I'm pleased to report that most, if not all, of my 90% KR is organically and ethically sourced.
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@tes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030291#Comment_4030291
I speak Russian and understand Uzbek and Ukrainian partially. I really doubt they are gonna be comfortable because I can’t use Russian on “basic” level. Like, the way to build sentences that’s not overloaded with constructions to make it more clear for foreigners. Even for native speakers I speak… kinda old fashioned.
I wasn’t talking about respect, no. I mean logical substitution. And guess as exploitation of elaborating. You made a guess about foreign community using English CC trait. But the problem stays: you just know own community trait. You don’t have base on to guess about other community. At least not if you trying to use logic.Ах, я знаю русский язык только немного, и прошло уже очень много времени с тех пор, как я его изучал, может быть, пятнадцать лет, поэтому прошу прощения, если это звучит ужасно. Я уверен, что носитель языка посчитает меня простаком.
Maybe if I restate my original comment.
I think a lot of English-speaking content creators have been pushing the idea of tunneling being the meta strategy has influenced those who consume said media to adopt that strategy, if that makes sense. It doesn't mean that Asia or EU are any less skilled, or that they arent capable or that their content isnt saying the same thing. Merely that NA SEEMS to have adopted a very wide-scale application of tunneling earlier than other regions, judging from other posters experiences here. This isn't to say that tunneling doesn't happen as often in those regions now, merely that say, during 6.1.0 I've often heard those that played in EU saw no noticeable increase in tunneling, but I hear from NA quite often that tunneling exploded in popularity. Now, I think, all the regions are about equal in their application of said strategy. Perhaps except Japan, things seem a little different over there with independent play being valued very highly.
Does that help?
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@tes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030248#Comment_4030248
I understand ”it’s just a guess” part— I just don’t care, because fundamentally your guess came from very limited knowledge of the English-speaking CC, yet you tried to use it to generalize and make claims about another part of the community. The problem is not in guess itself, it’s in how you made it.It’s like saying: “Well, I assume X is different in Y way because for Z, W trait looks this way.”
This is a simple non causa pro causa in an attempt to develop a position that was initially built without any relation. And people who blindly follow without fact checking just gonna use this later with the same approach. I don’t mean the statement itself. I mean the way to build argumentation.
Idk what to do if you gonna ask for elaborating even such stuff. This is just logic classes, and I’m not a teacher to explain basics.Okay. I mean zero disrespect by this.
I feel like there might be a language barrier here? Is there another language you'd be more comfortable using? Maybe I speak enough of it that we can find whatever disconnect we are having here and resolve it.
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Wesker clears.
Plague has more boom or bust potential. She's either completely oppressive or ineffectual. Wesker is consistent, you know what you're gonna get.
Wesker is much more fun than either of the others. Far more engaging gameplay, he also isn't bugged to hell. Massively rewarded for learning his techs.
Like you said, he's also actually fun to play against too.
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@Skillfulstone said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030226#Comment_4030226
I mean, not to sound pessimistic, but BHVR has effectively no incentive to do more than the bare minimum.
There's no meaningful competition (every other assyms are either dead or dying).
The licenses alone could keep the game standing (let's be honest, if licenses never came to DBD, that game would have died years ago) and every new licenses bring in a wave of players from an entirely different community (retention is bad, but it's enough).
Even after every repeated disasters this year (all those disaster streams/collabs, major changes being repeatedly canceled etc.) people are still buying stuff. So from a business point of view, there's no need to put more effort and resources on a formula that already works and isn't in any real danger no matter how many mistakes are made.
Correct
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@tes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030206#Comment_4030206
I’m not surprised why
I am, since I have no idea what you're even arguing.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4030226#Comment_4030226
No it's fine, I know you mean well, it's just this is the biggest QoL initiative they've done and it's been an utter disaster, that's why it matter so much.
If this is their best attempt to fix this game, there is no hope and we are very right to be upset about that.
I just want them to do better and learn, that's all I want.When have they ever learned lol? We are almost at a decade of this. I've personally witnessed eight years of it.
I didn't want to be negative, but there was a reason I said wait and see when it came to this "QoL Initiative".