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I don’t know about the first three but I agree with you on the last one.
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When you hear someone saying anything remotely negative about something you like.
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@MegaWaffle said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@SNTDThe swamp sucks
That’s not the hottest take in fairness. You find me five people who say they like the Backwater Swamp maps and I’ll find you five liars.
If I can stalk em I'll take whatever.
And you can’t on Backwater because they’ll either see you and piss off or run into the extra-obnoxious buildings and jungle gyms on each map.
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... Which is counterbalanced and outweighed by the Killer prioritizing you since you’re now easy prey.
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If you don’t believe my name to make me the undeclared king of toxic Survivor mains we finna have some b e e f
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.>When your bf 6’4 and you tryna see which ######### he texting this time
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Look at this duuuude.
Oh, ho, oh, no no no no no no.
OhHohHhHhoOOoH...

WHEEZING SCREECH
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The swamp sucks
That’s not the hottest take in fairness. You find me five people who say they like the Backwater Swamp maps and I’ll find you five liars.
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DBD with phone controls sounds absolutely painful.
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@Goobz said:
No it doesn’t. No Mither is a god tier perk as it is.... Homeslice, I think we’re talking about different No Mithers here.
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@MinusTheBillie said:
In the same way one could think of Bozo or Ronald McDonald when they think of clowns, or Dr. Oz when they think of Doctors. It doesn't mean there it hasn't become a famous horror archetype that they would be remiss excluding from this game.And who’s to say teachers can’t give spooks? They damn well can.
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@MinusTheBillie said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:@MinusTheBillie said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@MinusTheBillie said: I would happily pass on The Teacher. Doesn't sound interesting or scary. Neither does "The Hillbilly".
Oh yes the Hillbilly does. Scary as [BAD WORD] in the movies. The Hills Have Eyes, all deformed and rapey. Ehehwwheeew
Say what you want, "hillbilly" is a doofy word and always will be.
Word, yes, but the backwoods uneducated freaks with murderous or rapey tendencies, a natural fit in horror. The Hills have Eyes, Wrong Turn, TX Chainsaw Massacre, High Tension, Cabin Fever.... It fits...
Sorry man, but when I hear the word “hillbilly” I don’t think of these “scary” guys. I think of people like Ernest P. Worroll and Eustace Bagge.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
MineAntoiya said:
@ChesterTheMolester Slipknot is the s h i t. And I also agree with your beliefs :)
Ever seen them live? If not make it your lifes goal, trust me.
Hot take: Slipknot memes have ascended to become better than Slipknot.
And no, I'm not dissing Slipknot. Slipknot memes are TOP TIER.
One day a slipknot meme will make me push my fingers into my eyes.
Like this one?
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
MineAntoiya said:Slipknot is the s h i t. And I also agree with your beliefs

Ever seen them live? If not make it your lifes goal, trust me.
Hot take: Slipknot memes have ascended to become better than Slipknot.
And no, I'm not dissing Slipknot. Slipknot memes are TOP TIER.
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@MinusTheBillie said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:@MinusTheBillie said:
I would happily pass on The Teacher. Doesn't sound interesting or scary.
Neither does "The Hillbilly".
Oh yes the Hillbilly does. Scary as [BAD WORD] in the movies. The Hills Have Eyes, all deformed and rapey. Ehehwwheeew
Say what you want, "hillbilly" is a doofy word and always will be.
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@MinusTheBillie said:
I would happily pass on The Teacher. Doesn't sound interesting or scary.Neither does "The Hillbilly".
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I hate Jake players. I just hate Jake’s whiney injured sound and when I down him it is an amazing feeling.
I love you too.
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@MineAntoiya said:
Nah I don't teabag. And if you run a circle around me as I chainsaw you'll probably dodge

.>When you miss your chainsaw five times in a row

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Only in game when you either teabag circles around me every time I miss a Blink or when you get carried by your gg ez Killer power.
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Is this a djent battle?
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Though, I may as well answer your questionnaire.
Favorite Music?
- I regret to inform you all that I am a corekid by heart. Favorite artists include Jared Dines, Andromida, and The Amity Affliction. Outside of core, my favorite musicians are Owl City, Sungha Jung, and Dave from boyinaband.
Favorite Games?
- Dead By Daylight, Overwatch, Starbound, Skyrim, to name a few. I'm a ######### for Pokemon as well.
What's with your name?
- No Mither, no problem, homeboys.
Favorite foods?
- Literally everything that isn't good for me.
This post is quite pointless
- tbh yeah
DBD Mains?
- Jake will always be my thicc Korean daddy, but sometimes I'll put in some real Dwight hours. As far as Killers go, I typically enjoy playing Doctor and Shape, but lately I've been forcing myself to main Nurse. Back when the Nurse didn't even exist, I was actually a Wraith main.
Fav Colours?
- Any sort of deep blue.
Education?
-In terms of my main hobbies: I'm a guitar player, partially self-taught and partially tutored. I learned to speak Spanish well and am now fascinated with many languages that I hope to learn. I'm also a self-taught writer—I'm not an outstanding one by any means, but as far as being "a natural" goes I'd like to consider myself a natural at writing.Fav Films?
- Not a huge filmgoer. I'll typically enjoy whatever movie you force-feed me so long as its decent.
What do you hate?
- Anyone and everyone who mains the following:
- Meg Thomas
- Claudette Morel
- Kate Denson
- The Hillbilly
- The Clown
Do you have ANYTHING ELSE TO WASTE OUR TIME WITH?
- Killer mains can be entitled brats too.
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You think that's djent?
THIS IS DJENT!
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If you don't have at least 8 strings you ain't finna djent my boi.
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So wait.
I have one question for you.
D o e s i t d j e n t ?
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@popoles said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:@popoles said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@popoles said: No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@popoles said: @No_Mither_No_Problem Don't forget, it's a video! Here, have a pencil sharpener. It'll help give you a point. Here, have a brain. It'll feel strange after a longer usage, but don't worry, it's not dangerous! With the video comment:
I meant, that it is a video. So it is audiovisual. You keep forgetting, that it's not about the picture of the tier list (visual), it's also about the comments and arguments Tyde makes in the video (audio). You keep forgetting that. He still put Myers, Hillbilly, and Shape, all in the same tier.
I know I sound rude, but have you tried turning my gift on? Myers, Hillbilly, Shape
Oh dang, I chose the wrong word.
But hey, at least I'm presenting an argument with more substance than ad hominem and pointing out errors in word choice.
I just said that you have a typo in your comment. Sorry that I hurt you.
Anyway. Show me any of my arguments that are not with "substance".Uh, the one you just made that I was literally pointing out with that post?
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@popoles said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:@popoles said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@popoles said: @No_Mither_No_Problem Don't forget, it's a video! Here, have a pencil sharpener. It'll help give you a point. Here, have a brain. It'll feel strange after a longer usage, but don't worry, it's not dangerous! With the video comment:
I meant, that it is a video. So it is audiovisual. You keep forgetting, that it's not about the picture of the tier list (visual), it's also about the comments and arguments Tyde makes in the video (audio). You keep forgetting that.
He still put Myers, Hillbilly, and Shape, all in the same tier.
I know I sound rude, but have you tried turning my gift on? Myers, Hillbilly, Shape
Oh dang, I chose the wrong word.
But hey, at least I'm presenting an argument with more substance than ad hominem and pointing out errors in word choice.
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@popoles said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:@popoles said:
Don't forget, it's a video!
Here, have a pencil sharpener.
It'll help give you a point.
Here, have a brain. It'll feel strange after a longer usage, but don't worry, it's not dangerous!
With the video comment:
I meant, that it is a video. So it is audiovisual. You keep forgetting, that it's not about the picture of the tier list (visual), it's also about the comments and arguments Tyde makes in the video (audio). You keep forgetting that.He still put Myers, Hillbilly, and Shape, all in the same tier.
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@popoles said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem
Don't forget, it's a video!Here, have a pencil sharpener.
It'll help give you a point.
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@popoles said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:@TydeTyme said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Gibberish said:
@TydeTyme said:
@Gibberish said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
@Broccoli_Jaeger said:
And TydeTyme called this game the "new Dead by Daylight" lmao
I KNOW! Like seriously? Tyde must be losing it or something lol
TydeTyme also thinks Shape is on the same tier level as Nurse, so its not like he had it in the first place.
Oh my I do? Tell me how you come to this conclusion because I don't remember saying that. Ever. Man in one thread I've seen some children place words in my mouth left and right. Wonder if I'll get a reply
Mate. In your own tier list video you list the Top Tier being Nurse/Billy/Shape.
Thats putting Shape on the same tier level as Nurse.
TFW you forget your own beliefs and opinions
Oh my you referenced a video that clearly states that Nurse is on a level no other killer is on being the best killer in the game without a doubt. So you used evidence against yourself? You're not a smart one. Just because two characters are on a similar line, does not mean they're of similar power. They're actually listed from best to worst based on the position of that line. Myers being the WORST top tier. Sitting at the opposite end of the Nurse.
Almost as if you don't listen to what the video says.
“Because I put two Killers on the same level of classification doesn’t mean I think they’re at the same level of classification.”
He even stated in the video, that he knows the Nurse is better than others in the same classification, so it goes from left (the best in the classification) to right (the worst in the classification). What's so hard to understand it?
Ranking them within the same level classification is still putting them within the same level of classification.
"They're all in the same top-tier, oh but, this one's the BEST top-tier and this is the worst!"
Okay? You're still putting them all in the top-tier.
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@Jack11803 said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Aari_Piggy66 said:
No_Mither_No_ProblemHe's also the least mangled Killer in the game, next to the Huntress. He's not some ultra beastly Entity-tortured masked man or disfigured bastard child or obese clown. He's just a tall handsome man.
Amanda is just wearing a pig head other than that she is normal also she is the same size as the female survivor characters.
Yeah, but wearing an expressionless white mask tends to induce less revulsion than the head of a freshly-killed Pig.
Except Myers is SWOLE af in game. In the movies he’s ...... SMOL
He's respectably TOL in the movies, man. 6 foot 8.
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Okay, I’m just gonna be honest with y’all.
He may not be a horror movie icon, but if we had a licensed Killer put into the game again, let’s be real: Kratos would be an absolute HOMEWRECKER.
New Killer: The Spartan
Special Power: Square square triangle—Just straight up minces everyone into a million pieces. Entity included. -
Every time I’m chasing someone as Nurse and I grab them mid-vault fresh out of a blink I just need to take the time to nut.
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@TydeTyme said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Gibberish said:
@TydeTyme said:
@Gibberish said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
@Broccoli_Jaeger said:
And TydeTyme called this game the "new Dead by Daylight" lmaoI KNOW! Like seriously? Tyde must be losing it or something lol
TydeTyme also thinks Shape is on the same tier level as Nurse, so its not like he had it in the first place.
Oh my I do? Tell me how you come to this conclusion because I don't remember saying that. Ever. Man in one thread I've seen some children place words in my mouth left and right. Wonder if I'll get a reply
Mate. In your own tier list video you list the Top Tier being Nurse/Billy/Shape.
Thats putting Shape on the same tier level as Nurse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4NWIcSj8oITFW you forget your own beliefs and opinions
Oh my you referenced a video that clearly states that Nurse is on a level no other killer is on being the best killer in the game without a doubt. So you used evidence against yourself? You're not a smart one. Just because two characters are on a similar line, does not mean they're of similar power. They're actually listed from best to worst based on the position of that line. Myers being the WORST top tier. Sitting at the opposite end of the Nurse.
Almost as if you don't listen to what the video says.
“Because I put two Killers on the same level of classification doesn’t mean I think they’re at the same level of classification.”
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LOL rebuttal I don't need to. You can counter all that, except for Doc (which I said in my post). Again read what I wrote because you are just assuming my argument otherwise.
I'm not "assuming" jack. You made invalid points for three elements of Killer detection and refused to acknowledge the rest. You claim you don't "need" to rebuke them because you have no real argument is my guess.
NC + M&A then don't heal unless you KNOW where the killer is. Also Spine Chill. You can stealth killers I do it all the time dude. It's knowing how the killer sees things, line of sight, being able to predict what perks they have. You might not always pull off the stealth but I can assure you it's all beatable.
Spine Chill tellls you when the Killer is looking in your direction. If you're healing and you see it go off, and the Killer has NC, that doesn't tell you to hide. It tells you you've just been found. The best you can do now is get a head start.
Oh and if you are too close for BBQ, the killer has NO IDEA where you are. A circle with a 40m radius is huge, I could be anywhere. If you get within range and he can't see you, then you are completely free to go where you want. I get inside BBQ range then leave. Easy.
You're SERIOUSLY underestimating the size of a 40m radius lmao.
I'm rank 1 survivor, and against good killers with BBQ if you play smart you can stealth them.
Really guys, it's not that hard to avoid.
So you're saying because you, one singular man, can be stealthy, that makes it not only feasible, but viable and easily done.
Anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy, just so you know.
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@Gibberish said:
@TydeTyme said:
@Gibberish said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
@Broccoli_Jaeger said:
And TydeTyme called this game the "new Dead by Daylight" lmaoI KNOW! Like seriously? Tyde must be losing it or something lol
TydeTyme also thinks Shape is on the same tier level as Nurse, so its not like he had it in the first place.
Oh my I do? Tell me how you come to this conclusion because I don't remember saying that. Ever. Man in one thread I've seen some children place words in my mouth left and right. Wonder if I'll get a reply
Mate. In your own tier list video you list the Top Tier being Nurse/Billy/Shape.
Thats putting Shape on the same tier level as Nurse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4NWIcSj8oITFW you forget your own beliefs and opinions
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@Jack11803 said:
@Runiver said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Runiver said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
@Jack11803 said:
@RuniverCan’t stroke egos is the perk actually has enough bonuses to make it useful.
Don't underestimate people Epenis man.
The whole point of the perk is to go with "Hey, I won even with No Mither equiped", nothing else.
And yes it's pretty stupid, but that's just devs being scared of releasing actual mecanics for the game because they did a lot of mistakes back in the days.If you know it’s a stupid, trash Perk, and you AGREE it’s a stupid, trash Park, why the hell do you not think it needs a buff?
I meant it's a perk meant for ego strokers, and atm, it fulfils its duty.
sand DS was MEANT to be a get out of jail card. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t need a change. I don’t care what kind of ego gymnastics that perk features, it’s ######### and needs a buff.
DS is overpowered in an overpowered survivor meta.
Also, DS isn't fun, and DS is actually HURTING your opponent, while No Mither actually only affect yourself (and slightly your teammates if you fail), so it's a very different matter overall.All I gotta say is : No Mither isn't on the buff list atm, tho maybe if you're lucky, it might come.
Lets stand together and fight for ALL the ######### perks!
Maybe not ALL of them. Certain crutch and lame low-tier Perks can be just that: Crutch and lame low-tier Perks. That's why I don't think Perks like Deja Vu and Whispers should be buffed. But something like No Mither isn't a crutch Perk. It, high-risk, low-reward. It needs improvement.
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@thesuicidefox said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
TL;DR: These things can only be avoided in really niche ways.Sorry, but I don’t suck TrueTalent’s dong. I suck Bricky’s instead.
Maybe you should read it, considering I point out how all these anti-stealth things here can easily be countered. Nothing about beating them is "niche" you just need to know what perks the killer is using and what they do. BBQ doesn't even phase me now, there are so many ways to hide from it.
Like really if you want to make an argument about how hard it is to be stealthy but then completely ignore advice on how to be easily be stealthy I can't help you.
The ideas you described are faulty at best. Here's why:
Nurse's Calling: Monitor and Abuse. Plain and simple.
BBQ: If the Kiler can't see you, that means you're near. If anything, NOT being seen by the Killer is a bigger giveaway than being seen by him.
Doctor: Take a good long look at how fast you go from Madness 0 to Madness 1. You will scream pretty much the second you enter his Terror Radius in Treatment Mode. Combined with Distressing and Order, it goes up even more, even faster, and even farther away.
Plus everything else you didn't give a rebuttal for.
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@Runiver said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
@Jack11803 said:
@RuniverCan’t stroke egos is the perk actually has enough bonuses to make it useful.
Don't underestimate people Epenis man.
The whole point of the perk is to go with "Hey, I won even with No Mither equiped", nothing else.
And yes it's pretty stupid, but that's just devs being scared of releasing actual mecanics for the game because they did a lot of mistakes back in the days.If you know it’s a stupid, trash Perk, and you AGREE it’s a stupid, trash Park, why the hell do you not think it needs a buff?
I meant it's a perk meant for ego strokers, and atm, it fulfils its duty.
Okay, it fulfills it duty as a Perk it really shouldn't be.
Still needs a buff.
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@thesuicidefox said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
-Barbecue and Chili
-Bitter Murmur
-Nurse’s Calling
-All other Aura-reading Perks/abilities
-Bloodhound+Sloppy butcher combo
-Survivors being obnoxiously loud while injured
-Visual and audio cues for pretty much everything that isn’t walking
-The Doctor’s existence
-The surpsingly high gamma of many maps
-Loud AF music only the Surv can hear while the Killer is close which can cause a lack of judgement in what the Killer hears“Stealth is viable.” -Every Nurse main
Stealth is absolutely viable against almost all of these. Doc and Bloodhound are really the only ones you can't stealth. Though for BH you could argue that since you need to be injured you can stealth it (which you totally can) but once injured it's fairly impossible to escape from the killer. You are just stuck being chase for X amount of time however long you can run for.
For each of the aura perks you can avoid them as long as you know they have them. BBQ, either be inside the terror radius, behind a gen, or just don't be where the killer just saw you. Walk away in a different direction. I'm to a point now I just assume every killer has BBQ until I know otherwise and I play around it. In fact just yesterday I had a game against Clown on a farm map (forget which, Rotten Fields maybe?), and it was down to me and my friend. He hooked my friend across the map and, knowing I was going to be spotted on BBQ, I did a dull totem in the very middle of a cornfield. I started it before he hooked and did it for 4 seconds, then walked away far to the left and circled around to make the save. Killer 100% took the bait and came RIGHT to that totem, searched all the corn and probably the pig tree (which was close by). Nope, I was 2/3 across the map at that point to make the save (which I got safely BTW).
Nurse's Calling is easy to dodge too just don't heal if you hear a heartbeat. Spine Chill is also a life saver here, because you tan easily tell if the killer has NC because you will be healing behind a wall and then it lights and stays lit. Killer can obviously see you and is probably coming to you. In those cases I just get as far away, into the deepest corner of the map I can to heal. You can even bait killers with this too. On Crotus Penn (long time ago forget the killer) I help another survivor by baiting a killer with NC to chase me upstairs in the main building. I healed myself to about 90%, then went upstairs to tap it so they came up looking for me. Then I go downstairs and tap it. By the time they found me I just finished the heal, made them waste a good 60 seconds trying to get me because of my aura. It was a very risky thing but IIRC this wasn't a very good killer. Point is you can stealth this.
I'm starting to really hate Doc just for the fact that you can't vault something when he shocks you. I am constantly making it through windows only to teleport back to the other side, it's infuriating. That really shouldn't be a thing. Knocking you off stuff, or keeping you from doing most actions is fine, but vaulting shouldn't be affected simply because it's too connection based. I also think you should be able to 'snap out of it' for madness 2. With some add-ons, madness 2 is so powerful and the fact you can't get out of it is kinda dumb. I also have a problem with Docs that run 3 gen strat but then over-commit to it to the point they are just wasting everyone's time. Too many games where the Doc refuses to commit to a chase on someone in madness 3 and injured because they will go away from the 3 gens that have 0 progress. It's really annoying to deal with, if they would just commit once in a while and kill people I'd be fine with it, but I've only met like 2 Docs playing 3 gen that ever did that.
But I think the problem people like OP have with stealth in the game is that it's impossible to stealth a good killer ONCE THEY FIND YOU. Any killer worth their salt in survivor tears will be able to follow you and eventually catch you. True Talent almost never loses someone in a chase. If they get away it's mostly because he let them go because he knew it would be a waste, or he found another surv, or he had to protect a totem/gen/hook. You don't get away from a killer like him, you just run, for as long as you can, until he catches you or gives up. That's where people say stealth isn't viable, and it's not in those cases (unless you have IW&UE). But stealth is totally viable when the killer has no idea where you are. I've straight up walked right behind killers knowing they won't think to turn around or sat motionless in a patch of cat tails for the killer to walk right past me, SOMETIMES EVEN BUMP INTO ME, and not see me. If you understand line of sight and know how to move around without drawing attention to yourself you can stealth killers all game. But once you get found stealth isn't an option anymore.
TL;DR: These things can only be avoided in really niche ways.
Sorry, but I don’t suck TrueTalent’s dong. I suck Bricky’s instead.
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@Runiver said:
@Jack11803 said:
@RuniverCan’t stroke egos is the perk actually has enough bonuses to make it useful.
Don't underestimate people Epenis man.
The whole point of the perk is to go with "Hey, I won even with No Mither equiped", nothing else.
And yes it's pretty stupid, but that's just devs being scared of releasing actual mecanics for the game because they did a lot of mistakes back in the days.If you know it’s a stupid, trash Perk, and you AGREE it’s a stupid, trash Park, why the hell do you not think it needs a buff?
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"I think we've done a pretty good job so far." -Mathieu Cote
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@Runiver said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Runiver said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
50% of survivor perks being weak since day 1
No one complains for the most part
Devs : "We're gonna release a perk solely used to give more challenge to players that wants it"
Release No Mither
Survivors mains : "LOL BUFF PLZ NO MITHER SO WEAK WANT EXTRA STRONG PLS PLS'Please.
Found the Killer main.
How so ? I actually want the 50% of the unused perks to be buffed, instead of the perk that has been solely designed to be a handicap, as it has been stated by devs SEVERAL TIMES now.
Tho I suppose it's pointless to try to argue at this point Shrugs
The fact they put effort into a garbage handicap perk, instead of, say balance, was just because they have poor priorities, and are running out of ideas. It IS one of those 50% that need a buff. I like starting injured, I even use an injured Dwight costume and get immersed. DONT RUIN THAT PLS. It’s okay to start injured. Just have it have MORE perks inside itself.
Have complete noise muffling. Blood needs to stay nonexistent, mini tenacity AND unbreakable. And then we’re getting into a possibly useful perk. You should be able to make a synergy loudout, not waste slots on making being injured less ######### (needing iron will)
The priority should be to actually balance the game. Not to put a challenging perk into a "balanced section" because a few users of that perks want it.
I agree that they're failing at both of these tho.@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
50% of survivor perks being weak since day 1
No one complains for the most part
Devs : "We're gonna release a perk solely used to give more challenge to players that wants it"
Release No Mither
Survivors mains : "LOL BUFF PLZ NO MITHER SO WEAK WANT EXTRA STRONG PLS PLS'Please.
Found the Killer main.
How so ? I actually want the 50% of the unused perks to be buffed, instead of the perk that has been solely designed to be a handicap, as it has been stated by devs SEVERAL TIMES now.
Tho I suppose it's pointless to try to argue at this point Shrugs
Lol, if you've put more than 20 minutes into Survivor than you'd know that No Mither is actually trash. Yes, it's a "challenge Perk" but it's a terrible challenge Perk. It's small, insignificant benefits are vastly, VASTLY outweighed by being unable to be healed to healthy and the Killer knowing from the game start you have the Perk.
I did play more than 500 hours of survivors, thank you.
And yes, no mither is a disadvantage, it's the whole point of a perk making the game more challenging. Not sure why you didn't understand that part.Let me repeat it: It's an absolutely terrible "challenge" Perk. I'll have you know I enjoy running No Mither. It raises the stakes. But the tiny little benefits it has to offer make it absolutely pointless. I can hardly call it a "Perk" when it's physically detrimental. Making the game more pointlessly difficult for yourself and by extension your team is just that: pointless. It serves no purpose as of right now than for super mega hardcore g a m e r s to jerk themselves off.
Would you run a Killer Perk that makes you unable to lunge for the sake of the "challenge"? If you would, you're an idiot. Same goes for No Mither. The rework I've suggested doesn't make it OP. It makes it VIABLE.
But whatever. You're the same guy who thinks the Hillbilly takes more skill than the Nurse. No point arguing with you.
The whole point of a handicap perk isn't to be viable. I wouldn't pick a handicap perk on a killer indeed, especially since playing killer in this game is already a handicap considering the current balance of the game. Which is why survivors can afford
About Nurse, I said the EXACT opposite of what you said tho. I think Nurse requires more skill than Billy. I think Billy is better designed than Nurse, however. You simply don't read and try to attack me personally. I just said that mindgames with billy take more commitments than the one with Nurse. Tho I supposed you stopped reading.
You just proved my point then. It's a pointless Perk designed for people who run it to stroke their ego. That's bad Perk design.
And don't even get me started on how desperately you were trying to show how "well-designed" the Hillbilly is compared to the Nurse and your precious "mindgames". A Killer that's OP because of muscle memory and hours of practice is far superior in design than a Killer who can keep immense pressure on the Survivors by holding Mouse 2.
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@Runiver said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
50% of survivor perks being weak since day 1
No one complains for the most part
Devs : "We're gonna release a perk solely used to give more challenge to players that wants it"
Release No Mither
Survivors mains : "LOL BUFF PLZ NO MITHER SO WEAK WANT EXTRA STRONG PLS PLS'Please.
Found the Killer main.
How so ? I actually want the 50% of the unused perks to be buffed, instead of the perk that has been solely designed to be a handicap, as it has been stated by devs SEVERAL TIMES now.
Tho I suppose it's pointless to try to argue at this point Shrugs
Lol, if you've put more than 20 minutes into Survivor than you'd know that No Mither is actually trash. Yes, it's a "challenge Perk" but it's a terrible challenge Perk. It's small, insignificant benefits are vastly, VASTLY outweighed by being unable to be healed to healthy and the Killer knowing from the game start you have the Perk.
I did play more than 500 hours of survivors, thank you.
And yes, no mither is a disadvantage, it's the whole point of a perk making the game more challenging. Not sure why you didn't understand that part.Let me repeat it: It's an absolutely terrible "challenge" Perk. I'll have you know I enjoy running No Mither. It raises the stakes. But the tiny little benefits it has to offer make it absolutely pointless. I can hardly call it a "Perk" when it's physically detrimental. Making the game more pointlessly difficult for yourself and by extension your team is just that: pointless. It serves no purpose as of right now than for super mega hardcore g a m e r s to jerk themselves off.
Would you run a Killer Perk that makes you unable to lunge for the sake of the "challenge"? If you would, you're an idiot. Same goes for No Mither. The rework I've suggested doesn't make it OP. It makes it VIABLE.
But whatever. You're the same guy who thinks the Hillbilly takes more skill than the Nurse. No point arguing with you.
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@Runiver said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Runiver said:
50% of survivor perks being weak since day 1
No one complains for the most part
Devs : "We're gonna release a perk solely used to give more challenge to players that wants it"
Release No Mither
Survivors mains : "LOL BUFF PLZ NO MITHER SO WEAK WANT EXTRA STRONG PLS PLS'Please.
Found the Killer main.
How so ? I actually want the 50% of the unused perks to be buffed, instead of the perk that has been solely designed to be a handicap, as it has been stated by devs SEVERAL TIMES now.
Tho I suppose it's pointless to try to argue at this point Shrugs
Lol, if you've put more than 20 minutes into Survivor than you'd know that No Mither is actually trash. Yes, it's a "challenge Perk" but it's a terrible challenge Perk. It's small, insignificant benefits are vastly, VASTLY outweighed by being unable to be healed to healthy and the Killer knowing from the game start you have the Perk.
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@Runiver said:
50% of survivor perks being weak since day 1
No one complains for the most part
Devs : "We're gonna release a perk solely used to give more challenge to players that wants it"
Release No Mither
Survivors mains : "LOL BUFF PLZ NO MITHER SO WEAK WANT EXTRA STRONG PLS PLS'Please.
Found the Killer main.
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@Milo said:
Also also "beaten in" status (as it would've been for now) would say to the Killer:"Hey i have No Mither btw that's why you insta downed me". There a few things that could happen to prevent from saying that but still they're rareBut see, you don't start off the game screaming at the Killer to instadown you. Plus, No Mither is a challenge Perk meant for more skilled players—meaning they're less likely to lose chases, thus not giving away their having of the Perk. In addition, getting instadowned while Beaten In can occasionally be passed off as something else: Evil Within 3, hit with an Iridescent Head, Chainsaw hits, previously injured by Traps, et cetera, can help delude the Killer into not realizing you have the Beaten In effect on.
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@Brady said:
@Orion said:
Stealth has always and will always be viable. It should be the only way to play, IMO.Not entirely....
And that's someone who knows how to lose a killer, but it's mainly due to mindgames and resorting to stealth afterwards.
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
-Barbecue and Chili
-Bitter Murmur
-Nurse’s Calling
-All other Aura-reading Perks/abilities
-Bloodhound+Sloppy butcher combo
-Survivors being obnoxiously loud while injured
-Visual and audio cues for pretty much everything that isn’t walking
-The Doctor’s existence
-The surpsingly high gamma of many maps
-Loud AF music only the Surv can hear while the Killer is close which can cause a lack of judgement in what the Killer hears“Stealth is viable.” -Every Nurse main
This made me laugh considering it's really true and so ironic to say.
Also, you forgot about Freddy
I was gonna say Freddy but since no one ever plays him it’s kinda a moot point.
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@NeoVid
Unless someone’s super salty in which case you’ll need to take action. Somewhat effective tactic to lightening the mood: Type “gg”as “jee jee”. Helps give off an air of lightheartedness. -
-Barbecue and Chili
-Bitter Murmur
-Nurse’s Calling
-All other Aura-reading Perks/abilities
-Bloodhound+Sloppy butcher combo
-Survivors being obnoxiously loud while injured
-Visual and audio cues for pretty much everything that isn’t walking
-The Doctor’s existence
-The surpsingly high gamma of many maps
-Loud AF music only the Surv can hear while the Killer is close which can cause a lack of judgement in what the Killer hears“Stealth is viable.” -Every Nurse main

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