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@Dem34888 said:
I played last night and it was a nightmare
Even with tunneling, the generators are repaired at speed of light, as if you're doing nothing
So I'm not surprised that killers are tunneling/slugging at 5 generators
Scott also published the video on this topic, and I completely agree with himhttps://youtu.be/gxbaPH1P5TE?si=COoZtL_uUfqz3O5t&t=158
Either you have opponents who don't really know anything, or SWFs who abuse and use everything they canThis is the problem, right here. This is just a problem of MMR not working. The MMR rework can't come soon enough. For me it is EXACTLY this, there is no in-between, either they give up or you get gen rushed in 3-4mins. Neither option is fun to me.
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@BHVR Time to speed up the MMR rework please , thanks! <3
This is not just a new killer thing though, DBD's MMR algoritm is just very bad to non-existent. Personally I can't wait for the MMR rework, literally anything else would be an improvement at this point. I wish for an MMR where Solo lobbies might actually get lower tier killers more often and SWF will be more pushed towards higher tier killers.
From my experience, as a 2016 veteran with a stupendous amount of hours, I feel like the matchmaking is just trying to keep up with ppl in Q. Like if you go 1 second over a specific time frame then the matchmaking will give you literally anything, which is usually a highly coordinated SWF in the majority of my cases. (I check steam profiles to confirm this, so don't even attempt to gaslight me on this)
I often try to analyse my DBD experience and try to imagine myself as a hypothetical low MMR killer, as in maybe I'm not as good as I think I am. But then the main question arises: why am I not pushed towards all the solo Q survivors complaining? It literally doesn't make any sense. The majority of the matches I win (3 or 4k) is due to survivors giving up at the start, afk, dc or going next. I am actually convinced the kill rates are masively inflated due to these reasons.
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@ShanoaLegendaryPlz said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4002852#Comment_4002852
Its a screenshot from instagram
Possibly, but instagram must have gotten it from Twitter/X… And I cant find a single post about it on Twitter/X… I dont understand. Its very obvious from the screenshot that it got sourced from Twitter/X. Did BHVR delete it or something? I'm not going to make a instagram account just to see if the post is real :D Its just so weird this entire thing…
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A good change would be to show in the lobby that you are versing a SWF. I think it's only fair since it requires a completely different mindset. Most killers won't dodge lobbies, cause they don't want to wait another 10mins just to play the lottery. That 'some' might do it sounds like a fair sacrifice to me. At least at this point we know beforehand that we are going to have to play more tactically with our meme build.
Even if its just 4 randoms that came together on discord, there is a massive shift in gameflow just for having communication like that. Gens are going to be very efficient and you generally never have to be afraid to get caught by stealth which indirectly adds to the efficiency of gens. This is why many matches are done in under 5 mins… I think its fair to say I speak for most killers when I say "We don't want to sit in a 10min Q just to get sent back to it in under 5mins"… Losing is not the problem here. The problem is getting no value out of our game time.
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@ShanoaLegendaryPlz said:
Seems krasue just got some buffs
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/NSYLCRNHPTU9/screenshot-20250917-203437-instagram.jpg
I can't find this post? troll?
Edit: I can find other ppl referring to this screenshot, but not a link to it anywhere…? I assume since even Hens linked the screenshot, that it isn't fake? If that is the case, I am very happy with these changes as it pretty much adresses everything I mentioned.
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@ShanoaLegendaryPlz said:
As for her being a mix of 3 killers but weaker at all 3, dracula tends to have the same deal being wesker/nemi/spirit but weaker at all 3 of them, its his adaptability that makes him strong changing characters mid chase. (I also main dracula at p100)
From what i played in the ptb, the reason there are mushrooms everywhere is because everytime you go into headform, the body you leave makes a mushroom on that spot, so the more often you change, and where you change, gives people more/less mushrooms that are easier/harder to find. But i consider her expose effect to be more like a skull merchant/sadako deal where you dont need to get them exposed/condemned, but if you want it badly enough you can ensure 1 person cant even use a mushroom by spitting on them again (which is an extremely easy to use splash projectile) or hitting then with the headform dash (while infected or re overing with the mushroom).
Im also unsure if hooking someone removes the infection at all because if it doesnt, that means she has full control over denying most of the team mushrooms to cure themselves (they also apparently spawn periodicly but slowly)
I enjoyed what i played with her as i didnt really care if they cured themselves with mushrooms i just spit, infect, then chased with the head. Seemed to work out well enough. Every killer in yhe game struggles against competent teams juse some more than others. I think shed be like artist level against the higher groups. As my first main was xeno and hes just unplayable in higher mmr lol.
Yes, but Dracula actually has useful anti loop though. Dracula is nothing to complain about. Krasue only has her mobility as a positive, cause the vast majority of loops don't allow her to hit survivors in headform, at least not half decent survivors and up. The headform barely curves, which means you need very straight stretches to get a hit. I personally believe Krasue is one of the easiest to verse killers in the game right now (or at least in PTB). It is so easy to use her weaknesses against her and that dash is barely anything to worry about unless you are holding W… How do ppl not see this?
Just for clarity sake, I'm looking at Krasue through the eyes of a survivor right now, since that is what I have most hours in in the last 2 years. I don't see how any Krasue could be downing me in any acceptable timely manner from PTB…
ps: thanks for at least putting down arguments… everyone else is just downvoting and not counter arguing. Appreciate it <3
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How would you concider her A tier tho? She is weaker than unknown, without a doubt, and unkown is concidered A tier…
I dont need to "wait and see" btw, im a 2016 player, I alrdy know how the game works, and I can see what she does. I compare that to everything else in the roster and truly cannot justify putting her anywhere above B (generous B).
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@ShanoaLegendaryPlz said:
Most of the feedback on krasue would be under the ptb feedback tab further down the list
i legitmately looked for one and didn't spot it :(
Edit: I see PTB sub forums for every language, except English, which is very weird btw….
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"The sky is blue"
Now watch all these ppl downvote an objective fact. I guess it's a good way of shutting down debate, cause I sure won't be attempting to have another rational conversation with someone like this… This is how you get loud minorities.
One more mathematical fact before I leave this forum. If your SR is below 40%, you are WELL below the average as per BHVR's latest stats. Maybe someone like this should take a long hard look in the mirror to selfreflect and come to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe they aren't as good as they think.
Peace <3
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Holy moly, and there I was making my own post about Europe having to deal with 200+ ms players non stop (RUS/ME/SA)… See BHVR, ppl are even complaining about having to deal with 80+ ms, so I don't think I am unreasonable ;)
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3999659#Comment_3999659
Except it won't. People have been threatening this for eight years now, and its yet to materialise into anything consequential. It's clear at this point that threats to quit or boycott are largely meaningless — most of the people who do so will be back within several weeks.
Well… it was sorta semi true in my case… I switched to playing mostly survivor in the last year. Killer role just doesn't give me that… well… power role anymore. On survivor however I feel it very VERY much in the current meta. Vigil Sprint burst, or a heal in 2secs build or… genrush build… so many meta choices to pick from. Personally I'm a fan of chase builds, being uncatchable rly tickles me happy spot :)
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@Rogue11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3999644#Comment_3999644
"Punishing" = offering the survivor side a reason to keep playing after someone dies at 5 gens instead of continuing to waste time in a lost match.
Survivors were literally abusing the counter mechanics agressively in order for the killer not to get any other hooks…
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"Loud minority of doomer killer mains"… lmao for real? Literally ever single content creator and streamer said it was bad and unhealthy, including survivor mains :D How are some ppl living in such a different reality in this community? If these changes were only active against Nurse, I'd say yeh go for it… but theres almost 38 other killers out there, barely keeping up with the meta :D
PS: I almost added Blight after I typed Nurse, but then I remembered a few days ago the best killer in the world (comp) was playing the arguably best killer in the game (Blight), He had to fight tooth and nails, sweat blood to even get a 2k against a lobby of survivors that was even heavily restricted in their perk and item use (comp rules)… So in what reality would you say PTB was ok? Honest question.
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@CompetitifDBD said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3997924#Comment_3997924
I just swear I remembered when the war started, DBD stated they wouldn't be updating the game in Russia anymore, which led to alot of people VPNing to play the game still.
Well I guess that explains the rise in VPN-like latencies in DBD :(
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EU is a swamp of cheaters lately. And due to the anti go next prevention systems we also get depip and a match ban due to these cheaters (cause we die too fast).
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There was a time where I reported every single one of them with video evidence, with little succes. Now I only do it when Im in the mood to waste time to actually follow said cheater to properly record them. Most of the time I just go afk as killer, let every non cheater finish the gens, then I open the door and go next, hopefully without being held hostage. As survivor I just hop on a gen to finish the match faster, or let the killer grab me of the gen so I can go next.
In all honesty I rarely get a notification back saying that "action has been taken"… so that is highly demotivatng and demoralizing at the same time. Especially since cheaters are yet again rampant lately. I bet they say behind the curtains now "Oh, we are getting less reports, so the cheater problem must not be as bad", While in reality the average person is just fed up with cheaters not being banned and thus don't report them anymore.
I even bookmarked steam accounts, so I can actively stalk them just to see how many hours they rack up before they get banned. For example I'm following one profile that is currently at 729 hours… Let that number sink in. This profile was actively botting on trapper, speeding and instantly downing everyone in the first minute of a match. I sent in the video evidence many months ago, so either they do a ban waves once or twice per year, or they just don't.
Edit: I realize I havent been very constructive, so here is my idea to BHVR. Add match replays to the game, so BHVR can check easy/fast ingame reports in a quick manner. Stop letting your playerbase having to spend 30mins on an 'official report with video evidence'.
Another easy solution would be to make a lot of things server sided. Like a survivor isnt supposed to be teleporting from A to B unless they have massive lag, and even in that case at least kick that person from the server. The server should be able to see that survivors arent moving around properly.
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@CompetitifDBD said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3997888#Comment_3997888
Isn't the game banned in Russia atm?
Defo not, again based on the names I see in my lobbies, plus the profiles I check on Steam :D Many many Russians. I assume they would be banned due to the war? I guess they are all female Russians. Whenever they have a TTV that I check, they are female, so… At least I assume it is because of the war they would be banned? I have no idea why else.
At least I can confirm, from what you are quoting, I checked those 2 Steam profiles, they were both Russian, and obviously both together with their very similar skyhigh pings.
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Just to add an example of today in 2v8 making it even worse. I see an entire lobby of survivors at 30-45 ping. Easy bet to say they are all from West EU, just like me. But then the 2 killers are both 180+ ping. Completely unplayable. I witness other ppl pre-drop pallets way early, and they still get hit through said pallets 2-3secs after… How is that ok?
This is not just one match, this is almost every match that at least one of the killers has such an unplayable ping, that it ruins the entire match flow. Non of peoples skill matters. Drop a pallet, still get hit 2-3secs after…
It's the same problem in 1v4, obviously at lower rate, cause those matches are much slower paced. But the problem persists all over. It happens so much to the point that I wonder if a large portion of these players aren't just on VPN (on purpose) or something?
I bet this is also the exact reason why we see so many ppl go next in Europe. They just want to move on to a normal match.
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To the people who are saying no to killer bots and abandon for killer:
The reason it is needed so much, especially these days, is because of the rampant amount of cheaters. Right now we are forced to sit through that match, hoping survivors finish gens fast so you can push open the door, then hope you wont be held hostage for the remainder of that hour. Matchmaking times for killer are also waaaay to long to have to be forced to deal with such matches. Right now killers get punished for DC'ing against cheaters.
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You should look up the vids on MMR from Choy. But in short: From the moment you dip into the gold bracket, which is quiet easy, is where killer Q hell starts. After seeing those vids I am actually convinced this is the case for me, and probably you too as well as many others. I go against sweat squads way too often, and sometimes even a comp team… I have no business going against these ppl, Especially cause I dont play high tier killers, I might as well be afk.
But hey, no need to feel bad. Just to look at the killer stats on Nightlight. You are not the only one struggling. The killrates dropped on average to just above 50% since a few months. Half the roster is even below 50% struggling very hard. I know Nightlight doesn't have a huge pool of matches, but it is very indicative at least of a trend. Like anyone telling you they have a high killrate they are the top 5 percentile right now. They probably dedicated 1000s of hours to one specific killer.
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You don't have to "buy" anything, its an original, meaning you can just pick it up with shards. I hope most ppl do. But just like many content creators and streamers, I too have alrdy quit playing killer in any serious capacity, other than quests. become a survivor main cause its a lot more chill and easy.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3958193#Comment_3958193
Use the accessibility option for Huntress, can turn it on for that match only. So there is at least that, I personally have decent headphones so I've never experienced it however I can see it being an issue if on a tv or something.
I think they turned him up this patch? I havn't faced him to know if it worked yet
Glitchtrap is really quiet however.I'm telling you its because of age. The older you get the less you hear those low tones, its not as much about volume as it is about the tone that the lullaby is in.
ps: I'm a 66% escrape rate solo survivor… so its not like its a 'git gud' issue… ;) It's just purely the skin audio that completely F's me up in and out of chase.
The fact that many people have alrdy complained about this, probably also many younk fowks, says enough init?
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Just happened for the 3rd time. I lost a rank for no reason. Now because I had a random disconnect due to the horrible DBD servers. Just add capacity to your servers if it cant handle Sundays… multiple times so far I have lost my IRRI 1 rank, having to regain my pips in solo lobbies… Because of complete unnecessary and unasked for mechanics…
@BHVR Just killswitch the thing, it is obviously working against you at this point and you are too cheap to add capacity… I literally lose all will to play the game.
The only reason you don't hear more about it is cause it doesn't tell you about it every time. Sometimes you get an error, sometimes you dont. The last time I had to actually check manually, and yup… lost IRRI 1 again… Many probably have no clue that they are losing ranks all the time.
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You are lucky to see only so few… I have multiple every play session. I do believe I am being stalked by cheaters on Cloud ID tho, but still…
I get a blatant cheater every single day, don't even want to think about the amount of subtle ones that pass me by… I sometimes run full aura builds and with that I even spot the subtle ones. They always speed up around corners, when they think you can't see them. Or you see them flying underground, which is even more dumb of them…
I stopped reporting them a while ago, cause I know it literally does nothing. Sad, but true. You can give them blatant video evidence plus their steam ID on a silver platter, they will still not get banned for one or another reason.
It is high time for the anti cheat to go server side. Simple code to just spot people doing things that they shouldn't do. Like: If:SurvivorSpeed = 150% > 5 secs = instant ban. It would catch SO MANY survivors alrdy, Cause there are no perks in the game that can do this. I believe background player is the only one that lasts as long as 5secs, so anything over that = cheats.
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he's just coping, pallet saves work just fine :p
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@thrawn3054 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3957274#Comment_3957274
I got Sable to P3 with the anniversary and ended up with 63 cakes. It's a problem because RNG has been really bad for alot of us.
If you only got 3 prestiges out of the event so far, that's not a matter of getting too few cakes. You just play very little… I get multiple millions of BP just from one play session…
Just for my own curiousity, of the top of my head with some quick math, 3 prestiges would mean you only played… about 20 matches so far? And I'm being generous here, cause 20 matches means you didn't even have to play well to achieve that amount of BP…
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@PetTheDoggo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3957274#Comment_3957274
that doesn't change the fact it's way less than before
I want to play basically every game with a cake during whole year, I am not going to play without a cake unless I need something specific for challenge.
Gather that many cakes for me is suddenly an issue, when I have time to play like 1-2 hours per day.
It may not be an issue for majority of players who will still be able to gather enough, but it simply doesn't make sense why do it in first place.If you want a cake every match for the rest of the year, that is perfectly possible. Just play a lot, farm bp. I am personally at over 1000 cakes alrdy… The games events do not run on your schedule.
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Note that this also could be just cheaters, not the actual servers. Cheaters have the ability to crash the match server at will. It is always very suspicious as this happens at the end of a 12 hook game or something… just saying ;)
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@Mr_K said:
You can't 100% remove hackers. The most popular games with the most invasive ring 0 anticheat still has cheaters.
With that said, there's no reason for some of these cheats to exists with proper server validation.
There is a difference between "there are cheaters", and in DBD's case "the game is rampant with cheaters". Its absolutely horrific that I have to think every lobby I get before loading even starts, "will this lobby include cheaters?". Like some others have said before me, Almost every match at the top bracket, you get them A LOT. And I rly am talking about the pure blatant ones here, teleporting/flying in your face type of cheaters…
I'm pretty sure either BHVR is way behind on bans, doesn't care, OR they just do it quarterly… Whichever of the 3 options it is, it is absolutely equally horrible for players to deal with. Cause I monitor multiple accounts myself, some steam accounts, they still get daily comments about their cheatings, months after my official report, hence I know they aren't being banned, even tho I sent in blatant video evidence including their steam ID.
Because of the above, the problem is only getting worse, and people such as myself stop caring too, and thus stop reporting and sending in evidence… cause its just a waste of time anyway. Its just a vicious cycle of making the problem bigger by the day. BHVR simple does not do enough to combat cheating, and it needs to be said over and over, until something is done.
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@sethrollins said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3957259#Comment_3957259
Russia is big. Western Russia (most players from west) have ~50 ping. With Asian servers it would be 200-300ms
The vast majority of Russians and Arabs I get have 80+ ms. Which is alrdy a sweetspot for getting away with a lot of nonsense. I recently interacted with one such people while they were streaming, and they literally do not care about this. They know they have a massive advantage and actively abuse it. They openly admit this… It was very much like that interview Hens did with cheaters… they literally laugh in our face, they dont care.
I also had South Africans a few times. They are a lot more rare… but they too use the excuse "what else are we supposed to do?". They just all come to the EU server with 200+ ping. Because… they "just want to play dbd"… meanwhile ruining the matches of 4 other ppl. All in the name of 'their right to play dbd'.
Just give them their own server. period. Especially Russia and arabs are APLENTY, as I see them in my own lobbies more than half of the time. So their Q times would not even suffer. Let them play against each other.
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Friends, I understand there is little logic in doing this, but… I played about 10 matches yesterday (200k bp per match on survivor), bulk spent the BP on one char and got about 100 cakes… why are we complaining here? You always get back more cakes than you use in offerings. Unless you are extremely unlucky in your solo lobbies not dropping cakes at the offering, in combination with you playing very poorly and thus getting low points…
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Heh… As someone who deals with blatant cheaters every single day, gets recording evidence and reports them… I see a lot of them still play after multiple months… So it would absolutely baffle me that BHVR is banning ppl at random, for no reason. When even blatant cheaters arent getting banned… I'm sorry but not sorry… You probably did something to get banned.
I mean, it's not as if BHVR can use the bad advertizing of falsly banning ppl (again). They had such an event with a major streamer not to long ago… (It was someone impersonating that streamer).
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Hook rate on the other hand… perfectly balancable… Every single content creator and 2016 veteran such as myself have been saying this for years… But yet they keep kills/escapes as their major driver for balance :D … It would instantly fix slugging and tunneling and… everything BHVR and survivor mains dont like… SNAPS FINGERS … Literally Instantly.
Releasing the stats page, that shows hook average is alrdy a good start, at least for ppl lilke me who likes to see stats that are actually indicative of skill, but it still isn't incentivized in any way shape or form. Every single hook you do, you are literally just handicapping yourself. As in it activates all those annoying perks like DS, DH, OTR, We'll Make it, … etc etc…
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Whenever I have someone from south africa in my lobby, what is the point of chasing or getting chased by this person? Their latency is ridiculously high. BHVR is just cheap I guess? It's the same problem with Russians and Arabs, they all play on the EU server, not the Asian one, even though they have very high latencies almost consitently…
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The only plausible reason I can think of is because Nurse and Blight are free to play killers. So nobody can say the game is P2W, because "look you have access to top tier killers…"
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Last 30 days, 100% solo, and also not hitting abandons like some ppl believe. I am however a 2016 veteran tho, mained killer for many years, so I have seen survivors abuse broken loops for that long and now… I'm abusing all those broken loops myself, now that I know exactly how to run them to have efficient chases. This escape rate is the result of thousands of hours of killer PTSD :D
Also I play kinda selfish as survivor, I don't take risks where I don't need to, especially when I see my teammates doing brand new player stuff/mistakes… But if gens were slammed and everyone had long chases, I will defo go for the altruistic save at the end, on the condition that there is a bodyblock train. Otherwise, I just exit.
So anyone complaining about their 30-40 escape rate when you literally go trade hooks when you are on deathhook, or take other completely unnecesary risks… WHY are you complaining? You are forcing low escape rate on yourself… This is not a balance issue at all.
Edit: I barely played event as survivor btw, it seems all the tryhard killers are there right now ;) easily 90% of my matches are from normal mode.
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@Willish said:
I've been playing a long time, I'm a decent looper and I can hold my own. I'm pretty sure I'm not in the lowest MMR, but I've just played against an Unknown who claims it's their first ever match. It was a 5 gen chase and I ended up feeling really bad for him. What's going on with MMR? That was a really unfair match.
How can I go from playing p100 nurses and blights, to a brand new user?
I have the same experience lately. I actually have a post here, the one asking for your 30day stats screenshots. I'm currently at 66.54% Escape rate in solos… I keep getting easy killers.Just like you, I used to get non stop Nurses and Blights, basically all top tier killers… Now I see a much bigger mix of killers. Whatever they did, I'm certainly thankful for the latter, I like variety.
But yeh… the matches are just too easy and I keep escaping it all. Something 100% for sure changed, and I am starting to believe they tweaked the MMR. After 170+ matches, we can't rly say its RNG anymore, there is defo a pattern.
Before I thought the anti go next changed peoples mindset, which it did, but to have this much of an impact is kinda crazy :D
Just out of curiousity, do you play killer as well to any extent? Cause killer is the absolute reverse for me right now. I get the most insufferable and unwinnable swf team 6s.
PS: I have thousands upon thousands of hours played btw. And I have been a killer main from 2016-2024… so… It's not like a git gud issue. Something just changed. Unless I somehow suddenly became a god at survivor and suck at killer at the same time, even tho I mained it for years :D
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Sorry for the necro, can anyone confirm if this is still the case? Killers abandon on 4k slug = loss = negative MRR? And survivor abandons dont count as kills? I will absolutely abuse this if true.
Not because Im evil, but because the MMR system is so bad, that any half decent killer is practically forced to do this, to have semi enjoyable matches. I am absolutely convinced at this point the massive amount of cheaters and sweats I get and have no business going against, is due to this stat/mmr system working the way it does…
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Yup I agree. I am specifically abusing 'lethal pursuis' just to test this, every single match… and the result are anything but what they want to achieve and actually push survivor in survivor favor. They often spawn 2+2, and then they spread out even easier than before… so now you have 4 gens being worked on at the start instead of 2 or 3. This is why matches are so much faster since the update. Gen effiency is through the rough.
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I hear you, but it would be so much easier to just fix the blatantly awful MMR system of DBD. Currently what happens, at least in my experience, I win a few matches in a row against potato lobbies, so now the MMR system sees my wins and now it has to balance it out towards a 2K, so what the MMR system does: It gives you unwinnable matches untill you get back to that 2k average. It literally only counts kill/escapes. It is beyond me that they still havent changed this system…
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There are no amount of coconut pies that could keep me willingly in a match with a nurse on permanent red ping. Especially cause im a 2016 player, I literally dont care about the BP, only an enjoyable time is important, everything else is secondary.
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Cheating is absolutely out of control right now. I play both sides and while I do get some cheating killers, probably because I play solo and thus not very high MMR (mostly speed bots), the cheating survivors are absolutely rampant in comparison. Sometimes they aren't even subtle and they are still gaslighting you… So yeh, don't ever interact with these ppl, I bet they thrive on it. Just report, send in recording and move on.
I bet BHVR is so swamped in reports right now, (at least I hope that is the reason, because if it isnt, it means that BHVR just doesn't care) that I personally still see steam profiles that I monitor, hacking after multiple months of me reporting them with blatant video evidence. Like they literally still get hackusation comments daily on their profile… Because of this cheaters are absolutely fearless (obviously, since they do it on steam accounts now and not get banned somehow) and often even cheat in swf… They just don't care anymore. It rly is ruining the game for me.
I am also saying this (complaining) from a place of care. I rly want my favo game to be in a healthy state. But right now I just don't feel like BHVR is doing enough to combat it. Especially because killer Q time is so miserable as is, to then get a cheater in your lobby is absolutely infuriating. I sometimes get them multiple matches in a row, as if they are inserting into my lobby, probably on cloudID, cause I alrdy tried changing platforms to dodge them.
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Update 1: 4th match of the day. Blatant as hell, crouch animation speeding towards the horizon and then "cry more" in endchat… wth is wrong with these ppl, this is a mental illness right? For the life of me I cannot understand what they gain from this, unless its a mental illness…
Update 2: 5th match of the day. Someone instantly escapes before the camera ends panning at the start of the match, so everyone backs out to lobby automatically. No, it wasn't a DC, it was an actual escape.
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@Shroompy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3956172#Comment_3956172
Bardic Inspiration or Dramaturgy can cause you to scream right from the get go, and I believe certain tome challenges as well
Please read what I said, no people on either side have scream perks, so how are they screaming?… :) In most cases if you hear someone scream at the start of the match its a dead giveway that someone is cheating. Cause their cheat software sees your aura from the other end of the map, and then uses a perk they dont have. The only time its not a cheater is when they spawn very close to you.
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Yeh cheating is absolutely rampant right now.
For example I got a screaming Steve 2 matches in a row… Pretty sure hes stalking me too, cause one time in event, and I switched to normal mode right after and I got him again. Correct me if im wrong, but there is absolutely no way to scream if neither killer nor survivor has scream perks, right? Maybe im just missing something…
PS: He started doing it at the first second of the match when I knew has was at the complete other side of the map with Lethal pursuier… so he basically outed himself as a cheater right from the start, twice… I guess cheaters are dumb…
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@tjt85 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3955938#Comment_3955938
I don't understand why you can't just accept that you have a much higher than average escape rate. Lots of players have posted escape and kill rates that are way above the average according to BHVR and those results have surely got to be outliers, no? I very much doubt they are in any way representative of a typical DBD player's stats.
Of course, we don't have access to BHVR's own stats, but a hand full of self reported stats on the fan forum doesn't really tell us anything and I'm still willing to bet most players fall between a 30-45% escape rate on Survivor and 50-65% kill rate on Killer.
Personally, I haven't noticed any differences to my Killer or Survivor games, except that I'm seeing a lot more new Survivors (to be expected with the success of the FNAF chapter) and a lot more tunnelling from Killers (probably because there are many more easy targets for them to tunnel). If anything, my Killer games have been easier than in recent months.
But I suppose BHVR may have been tinkering with the MMR system a little. I assume they make regular, unannounced adjustments to it all the time and we know they're preparing some changes soon, so perhaps they have started to run experiments on live servers to test some different set ups already.
Because I play both sides, that's why. I mained killer since 2016. I know this game inside out, 1000s of hours. In the last 2 years I have started playing survivor more and more and more cause it is so much more easy and chill, no stress (So its not like im at bottom mmr anymore, after 1000+ matches). At a certain point, we have to look at stats and say at the very least that SOMETHING is wrong, not going well… whatever it is, fix it.
The only reason I could be having such an easy time on survivor and an absolute horrific time on killer is due to the Q times. I know that the MMR goes well out of its way after a certain amount of time, and coincidence has been giving me a lobby (literally every time) always right after 10mins of Q time, which makes me believe that I am just extremely unlucky getting all those SWF team 6 lobbies… IF this is the case, please make my Q time 5 mins longer, I beg BHVR… Cause I literally dont want to play killer because of these unwinnable matches. Why should I waste my time bruteforcing my MMR down like this?
When I Q as survivor, it is basically instant, under 10secs, every single time… and I keep getting enjoyable (and often even to easy) matches as survivor, even when I die. Here, I have been posting the proof of that enough at this point.
Looking at both these facts I conclude that the MMR system is just pure shiz and needs to be tuned. At this moment BHVR is chasing away all the killers. This is not just me saying it, this is almost every content creator/streamer I see saying it. So generally people with 1000s of hours of playtime within DBD have the same opinion.
I will gladly listen to any other theory you may have in my specific case. Other than "its in your head", cause it isnt. For example just the crazy amount of blatant cheaters I get on killer (flying/teleporting), and sometimes survivor, tells me that I am playing at probably the highest MMR bracket on killer and somewhat mid on survivor (if not, I am afraid for the games health). Complete utter miserable time as killer for me. It's like I am actually getting worse the more hours I play, explain that one to me :D
These stats help me understand a little bit more, without being gaslit like "just git gud". I will happily take any theories you have and even upvote you if its something I havent thought of myself. Cause I am desperate to enjoy my favorite game again, but on killer side.
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@BlightAbuser said:
The stats are skewed right now. Any abandon as a survivor counts as an escape, so escape rates are inflated and kill rates are lowered.
Yes the abandon button gives a win, that doesn't mean ppl like myself are abandoning games, we just get high escape rates… because something happened in the last update. You are about the 5th person to mention that. You aren't going to read anything else? I don't abandon. Look at the 'recent matches' screenshots, you can literally see they aren't abandoned.
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UPDATE: TLDR: Don't play the event as survivor. All tryhard killers are there right now, obviously :D
This is why normal mode is so easy right now for survivor. At least that is my theory at this time. But maybe, just maybe 160 matches in a row I was just lucky with RNG, who knows ;) PS: Im a statistician, so I don't believe in that nonsense :p
There are new masquarade challanges today, so I thought I'd do them as survivor even tho event killers are miserable ******, just to change things up a bit… And what do you know, I actually did get miserable ****** :D Killers going well out of their way against a solo lobby, hard tunnel someone out at 5 gens and rly RLY tryhard for the 4k slug at the end… And then still only getting 3k tho, what losers. Imagine wasting 10mins, while you could have just hooked someone and had the same outcome of 3K…
I don't even think this event adds to the stats nor mmr, correct me if im wrong? So these players are truly going all out to just be a bully. If they do get added to the stats, I am not surprised at all at some peoples survival stats :D Cause I'm willing to bet, just like me, every single survivor is just trying to get their side objectives done :D If I don't forget tomorrow, after the stats page has updated, I will check if the event matches added to my survivor stats and I will update here.
AVOID EVENT AS SURVIVOR
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@AmpersandUnderscore said:
So if I just never hook anyone my games get insanely easy, and I can still 4k. Especially on killers who already excel.
This is just a giga buff to slugging and why they balance around kills and not hooks btw. Not to mention other means of killing survivors without hooks that just skew the results here.
Phase 2 mate, slugging will be a thing of the past when phase 2 hits. I'm sure they will somehow completely murder it. Rumor has it they are going to test BaseKit tenacity+Unbreakable in the next chaos mode… presumably to add it later to the regular game mode. This would indeed completely murder the slug strategy.
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Good write up. At this point I'll literally take any change to the system to make playing killer less miserable.
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@YamamuraVideoRentals said:
Singularity is the strongest killer in the game right now. People are sleeping on this fact, still stuck in the mentality that nurse and blight are king.
Nurse was always and will always remain the number one ez mode killer, as long as she will exists in her current state. Blink hit blink down hook repeat… You obviously dont play singu if you believe he beats nurse on her ability to down ppl fast… Full aura nurse is queen. period.
Singu is strong, A tier, but that statement of yours is complete bananas ;) I would even dare debate that exploit blights are still better than singu on average, but I won't. At least a singu you can outplay and counter some…