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@hailxsatanxeveryxday said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776048#Comment_2776048
When did they say this? Did they say what they have planned?
I hope they don't punish facecamping. I don't do it often, but there are some survivors who are asking for it. The threat of bring facecamped is a good deterrent for toxic behavior.
I don't like it when killers do it all game for no reason, but that's already punished by loss of emblems/bloodpoints and by survivors just doing gens.
Here is a quote from GoodBoyKarus summary thread for the QnA stream where they talked about it (only design phase and they haven’t mentioned anything more):
"Any plans to make being facecamped less punishing?"
Yeah, they do. Facecamping has been a thorn for a while- they don't like that it has been such an appealing option for so long. In theory, it is very easily countered, but in practice (especially vs solos) it takes a long time for players to realise the hooked survivor is being camped and they should rush gens. However, on the same vein they don't want to remove proxy camping (a killer vibing near-ish to the hooked survivor), since it's a very legitimate strategy. So getting something that doesn't impact proxy camping but does impact facecamping is very difficult. And every time they tried it, there's always been an easily exploitable way of breaking the deal.
They recently had another idea, and it's going through the design team right now. When will you see it? If history repeats itself, then probably never, but this one might be different, who knows?
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@CyberDragoon656 said:
All this QnA boiled down to is no answers for any issues.
Made ######### up to justify what they are doing is right .
"boons are not over powered." Then why are they a better version of totems with no way to remove them permanently?
"Twins needed the nerf due to the high mmr" Who's playing twins at high mmr right now only nurse and blight are viable there.
Basically saying that killers are judged by high mmr and survivors are not. Really so why is the survivor meta still a thing a day doesn't go by where 8 times out of 10 the same pool of perks are used why not nerf them? "Let's Buff BOIL oVer"
"Cross progression isn't something we are focusing on" Didn't stop them from doing it with stadia ,egs and steam so what's stopping them from doing that with consoles if smite can do it this one can too.
"SBMM invites elitism" doesn't stop people from doing the same with iri grades
Let's face it for as much as they try to sugar coat the issues it's starting to wear thin they have had chance after chance of making the game balanced only to make it worse so they need to stop trying to sell people stuff and fix their game or they need another line of work because being a pvp game dev is not working for them.
"boons are not over powered." Then why are they a better version of totems with no way to remove them permanently?
boons are not overpowered. It’s CoH which is busted and they reconfirmed it’s being monitored and the nerf was intentionally not super significant but was still given because the community wasn’t satisfied that there was nothing changed for it
"Twins needed the nerf due to the high mmr" Who's playing twins at high mmr right now only nurse and blight are viable there.
it’s really not only Nurse and Blight at high mmr. They may be most often seen on high mmr because they are the strongest/have highest potential, but Twins do have high potential themselves. It’s just that they take more time to get good at and are not considered particularly fun to play as by many (not all). Where is your data suggesting it’s only Nurse and Blight at high MMR?
Basically saying that killers are judged by high mmr and survivors are not. Really so why is the survivor meta still a thing a day doesn't go by where 8 times out of 10 the same pool of perks are used why not nerf them? "Let's Buff BOIL oVer"
basically not what they said at all. They said that every balance decision has to be viewed from all skill levels. The community on the other hand (and from what I have seen you included) want survivors balanced from high skilled/high experience level but killers from middle ground. They also said they will look at Dead Hard and probably BT. And buffing Boil Over would affect high skill survs as well, doesn’t it? More variety if this gets used especially comboed with synergizing perks means less of the old Meta perks?
"Cross progression isn't something we are focusing on" Didn't stop them from doing it with stadia ,egs and steam so what's stopping them from doing that with consoles if smite can do it this one can too.
that’s totally not what they said. At all. -.-
"SBMM invites elitism" doesn't stop people from doing the same with iri grades
not a good argument to show MMR but more an argument against showing the grade. Which is probably at least something they had considered.
Let's face it for as much as they try to sugar coat the issues it's starting to wear thin they have had chance after chance of making the game balanced only to make it worse so they need to stop trying to sell people stuff and fix their game or they need another line of work because being a pvp game dev is not working for them.
Let’s face it, it doesn’t matter what they do, you will complain either way. And evidenced by this post you will even make stuff up to do so.
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@Junylar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2779208#Comment_2779208
It's not the community's fault the devs have lost all their trustworthiness throughout the years. Fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me. BHVR certainly did go much higher than "twice".
Well, you are still here playing the game though. Maybe stop supporting them?
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@Junylar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2779197#Comment_2779197
I've heard people mention it in similar threads about the shards recently. Might be a rumor, but knowing BHVR it sounds completely believable for me.
That’s the thing. Knowing this community it sounds very believable people are lying to talk BHVR down as well. I noticed that the community generally kinda ignores the actual issues but focuses on stuff that not actually happened that way or is outright untrue (even though there is plenty of stuff that went wrong…)
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@Junylar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2779076#Comment_2779076
Haven't experienced myself, but people here on forums tell that during some holiday awards for daily logins a lot of people didn't receive the promised rewards, and the devs said "we are looking into it, be patient" and then went to full radio silence about the issue completely. People haven't received the rewards after all, everything was "forgotten".
Hm. Must have happened before I was here as I never really read about it.
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@Junylar said:
They said "they are looking into it", so "you should just be patient and wait". It's most likely they are going to sweep it under the rug and forget about it. We are not going to get our shards, guys, we all got BHVR'd.
has this kind of situation happened before?
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Please ban me from the forums to prove my point
i guess your point couldn’t be proven right :(
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@SmarulKusia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2777961#Comment_2777961
No.
If you are fine with it - good for you, I'm not fine however being represented by the country that occupied mine, and killed many of my people whilst trying to deprive us of our culture.
Why do you even feel represented by it? That’s entirely something you decided to do.
your country/culture is just currently not represented. There are many others as well such as almost all of Africa, Australia, Everything Asian but Japan, China, South Korea, almost all of South America etc pp.
Baba Yaga was not chosen to represent you or your culture, it’s not exclusive to your culture as well, it’s also part of Russia and that one happens to be more commonly known to the rest of the world. that doesn’t mean Eastern Europe is now represented as a whole by this skin and won’t get anything else.
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You needed to make a support ticket and not a forum post about the Hawkins offering compensations. Don’t know if that is still eligible though, you could still try:
https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
regarding the bubba shards: it’s a know issue affecting many players and is being investigated by the team.
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@Prosac said:
god, how everyone is crying about his shards, how about being patient until they resolved their issue?
I like how it seems you created this account because you got annoyed by this :)
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@SuriKratos said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2777298#Comment_2777298
LOL sure ok man, so it's ok to "cheat". Oh seriously? I'm not forced to stream, good to know that I have such freedom (sarcasm)
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2777301#Comment_2777301
Yeah, but people who are watching your stream like to see the perks and how your build is working to try it out, suggest new ideas, etc, makes more interaction
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2777272#Comment_2777272
Yes, that is the smart thing to do, but not everyone is into learning all the possible killer's perks, Not everyone is well versed in the matter of killer perks/builds, it takes time to learn how to figure out. If you don´t play killer you'll take even longer to learn about possible perks. So there is a lot of people, like our "friend" there, who consider peeking on a stream because saw a window of opportunity to take advantage and help their team. Because you know, is better to "cheat" than learn about the game.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2777258#Comment_2777258
I know survivors can create the game hostage situation by hiding themselves and not repairing gens, but even playing as both survivor or killer, never saw a killer creating a game hostage situation. If survivors are not being chased they are repairing gens. If they are not on the hook they are repairing gens. Could clarify how a killer could create a game hostage situation? I think they can do that through body blocking you in a corner for the whole match but never saw it happen for too long, not very useful IMO.
So because it happens rarely it’s okay to make it easier for them? What about upcoming bugs/exploits that make it easier for killers (we all know there will be always be new bugs as long as there will be new updates)
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Then this should be fixed internally from BHVRs side.
though surely you agree that doesn’t mean they should allow the usage of SmartFace as a tool for racism that circumvents the official in-game anti-racism rules
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@JawsIsTheNextKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2777205#Comment_2777205
The difference is that when people are complaining so much about something, there could be something in what they say. There isn't a particularly large nerf Clown or Legion following. At least to my knowledge.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2777068#Comment_2777068
To be honest, that actually worked. Devs that care about the game shouldn't be too fussed about something like this happening to them, it might be a bit embarrassing at the time but most of us have been on the receiving end of games like this. If it makes the game better, its worth it.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2777201#Comment_2777201
If the stats are not really showing what people are complaining about, then actually seeing it might make the difference. It wouldn't even need to specifically be someone on the coding team, but it needs to be someone who could represent the devs AND who can play at at least a reasonably high level.
They have also confirmed they are monitoring the performance of both perks and Mandy has especially stated about Boil Over that the issues have been communicated to the team and she agrees that is (situational) problematic iirc her wording right.
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Mandy is on it and the (dev) team is aware and investigating the issue. It’s probably not been communicated to the support team when you contacted them..
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No, as the profile might be needed for reports when the killer is for example holding the game hostage and one surv is dcing to make a report they would have to wait until the match is over/all other survs dc or something..
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No, that’s very unlikely. And a big part of the community actually asked them to not do it as well.
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Eh. It’s not like they need to nerf anything that they find personally unfair/too strong to counter. Otherwise I guess you could let them verse a strong Clown or Legion player and convince them those killers are op and need a nerf?
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@I_pugni_nelle_mani said:
Hi there, i still haven't recived shards and on steam forum someone said that Behaviour developers have already sent shards to everyone who played Letherface after the annuncement.
Should i open a ticket or just wait a bit longer?
At the moment wait a little bit more. There are plenty people affected and the team got some player cloud ids from those to investigate the issue.
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It’s against forum rules to discuss leaks or mention their sources.
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@Kessora said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2770562#Comment_2770562
"there's a lot of work going behind the scenes to ensure the correct people get their rewards."
How about using all this effort to ban the racists that used the masks for racism?
How about using all that effort to give a worthy reward to those who had the hard work of chasing the masks? (ex: 6k PER MASK)
How about using this effort to solve more important problems at the moment? Or even remove just Claudette's mask.
If regret could kill, I would have been dead a long time to have believed in this company.
How about using all this effort to ban the racists that used the masks for racism?
because they can’t in many cases where for example the harassment wasn’t actually done in-game - it was stated that a reason for the removal was that the masks were used as a tool for racism. If players are outright racist in in-game chat they do get banned
How about using all that effort to give a worthy reward to those who had the hard work of chasing the masks? (ex: 6k PER MASK)
what about people that don’t have the masks unlocked but actually got bubba because they intended to? Those that were only one sacrifice away from unlocking the mask? Too much edge cases.
How about using this effort to solve more important problems at the moment? Or even remove just Claudette's mask.
Just removing Claudettes mask would be perceived as downright racism. And they are not putting all resources into this one issue. Though it’s a good thing this got finally addressed as this controversial topic has been around for a long time already and needed to be managed together with the license holder. Now was the time for it.
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@meeyes said:
did anyone get them yet?
Yes, many people have stated (and shown screenshots) that they got the shards.
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@UberSolus said:
Still nothing on my end, been over 24 hours now. I have Bubba P3 Lvl 50 so I think that counts as playing him lol
maybe you have leveled him without ever playing though? 🤔
but yeah, it’s being investigated by the team.. no more info given yet as far as I know
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776980#Comment_2776980
Well....
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/71IXX9XB3HQ6/oh-no-png.png
i dunno if that's gonna be possible tbh
If you are on Steam you can access the profile directly from the end-game screen where you see the points etc.
otherwise (different platform) I already mentioned what to do
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776971#Comment_2776971
Does that mean he'd need the steamID64?
If possible yes.
if they are on another platform they need to just put in the account name and probably mention in the description their own platform and the fact that the reported user was a crossplay user.
(this report system got even messier with crossolay and I hate it..)
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He should make a video clip and then after some time when it’s clear it’s a hacker/hostage situation they can disconnect via the settings menu, make an in-game report (which is mandatory) and then file an additional user report ticket here (they will need account info from the user they reported:
https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
if you have the clip it’s best to upload it as an (unlisted) video on YouTube or another platform and attach the link in the issue description in the ticket
edit: your friend will ‚suffer‘ from the dc penalty, but when it’s his first dc recently it should only be only 5 min, it’s situations like these why the penalty start so low (and it’s the fault of people abusing the dc feature that there is a penalty at all)
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@justrado22 said:
Yes but we need behaviour to tell us when this issue will be fixed bc some people really need this shards .
uhm. Why would someone really need them just now? It’s only meant as a small compensation..
i think Mandy will give some more info soon-ish..
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Many people didn’t receive the shards. It’s a known issue being investigated by the team. We don’t have any further info currently.
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@Starrseed said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776793#Comment_2776793
Putting a wolf on an red outfit with a hood doesn't make it better I know it's the modern tales series but that just sucks in my opinion and I don't know if my comment gave you the impression I am upset that Feng got the cosmetic for her being Asian (she has just to many skins) but that Wasen what I aimed for.
And well little red riding hood kinda is owned by Germany which doesn't mean other nations don't have the right to use it i think for every old tale goes the same no matter wich country its from. If you do something related to it try to keep the spirit and try to be close to what it should look like all that new modern interpretation of old tales especially the Grimm tales always tend to lose its spirit somehow.
But hey maybe that's just me looking at it to sternly cause I literally live where most of these old tales "happened" live half an hour away from sleeping beauty's castle and since I'm a child I'm a big fan of these tales in particular the really old kinda dark versions
I am also living not too far away and grew up with those tales.
but because of that I actually like some of the new/modern interpretations, eg Megs Gretel outfit which got an undercut (because sidecuts and undercuts for women are still an overused thing for BHVR… -.-) but it kinda fits and you can still see the relation to the origin. I would actually be upset if they tried to make a very close interpretation of it (and then of course fail at doing so).
i also very mich like Fengs cosmetic, with her hoodie and the chibi Wolf, it’s very much fitting for her character. And yeah I misjudged you there, so sorry for that. I agree she got way too much cosmetics in general already..
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@Junylar said:
It seems they are actively trying to do everything to antagonize the community. At first they remove the masks with no adequate reason. Then they decide to compensate with 6k shards for 4 masks (look in the store how much a single head cosmetic is). THEN they are unable to do it instantly, and tell you to wait 24 hours, as some kind of real life state bureaucracy, and THEN then fail to do that! Is the company getting dissolved and shutdown or what?
At first they remove the masks with no adequate reason.
there was an adequate reason though.
Then they decide to compensate with 6k shards for 4 masks (look in the store how much a single head cosmetic is).
As far as I remember, those 4 masks were actually completely free. There are also other free cosmetics only obtained by playtime (see free part of the rift for example
THEN they are unable to do it instantly
thats also understandable, as they actually needed to track the people until the very moment of the update.
i will agree with the rest of your comment though.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776827#Comment_2776827
I just wish that it wasn't Meg and Kate I'm being honest, we could've had some really cool skins for lesser-used characters, or just anyone else in general (outside of Feng).
Oh. Yeah. thats understandable.
But Meg having now two ‚German‘ cosmetics (Oktoberfest and Gretel/Modern Tales) could hint towards her having German ancestors/maybe being directly a German immigrant in (Canada or USA?)
but. Meg, Nea, Min and Kate do need to take a big step back from cosmetics. It gets tiresome.
@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776820#Comment_2776820
Huntress has been confirmed as Russian, from her lullaby being a traditional Russian one to this.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/RILVCCBGYUAC/img-20220128-091123.jpg
could still be another Eastern European country as it’s referring to the Russian Empire which had many Countries under their control back then? I mean.. yeah it’s likely she is Russian..
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776719#Comment_2776719
Wait you mean you didn't like your representation of Oktoberfest being an American girl and an American girl??
And a German man.
as far as I know, you don’t need to be German to take part in Oktoberfest.
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It’s a known issue being investigated.
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@SmarulKusia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776793#Comment_2776793
How is it not fair to compare if we are going onto 6 years, and not one killer has been that has been released after game-drop has been of Eastern European descent but Huntress - not to mention that in those 6 years, we had SIX american killers drop - not accounting for any other DLCs that are of any other origin (or tied with being American).
We are getting a 3rd Japanese killer, the next killer will probably be American too. It took them 5 years just to explore South America..
How is it NOT fair to criticise them for trying to capitalise and make money off cultures whilst not properly showcasing said cultures, if not being ignorant of them?
I do think they had a way to big focus on American characters. But they do have great variety overall, and it does not seem like they are stopping now.
i wouldn’t count licensed characters btw, as they are using obviously well known characters from pop culture.
also… Is Huntress even confirmed to be Russian? Genuine question, i don’t remember if it’s been confirmed from which country she comes..)
and.. they are still limited in the characters, even if every single character was from a different country/descendant, there would be countries/cultures missing. And they shouldn’t just take a list to add new cultures. I would feel more offended by that tbh.
(BTW I am actually with you on the topic, that Baba Yaga could have been represented better because it’s an actual different character like Krampus or Minotaurus; I just found the notion of them representing Eastern Europe via Russian character not fair)
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@Rizzo said:
If that makes you feel better, I haven't received my shards either.
That said, the process couldn't be prepared before the removal of the masks, that's why they waited for the patch, I'm sure they will solve the issue for those who still haven't received their compensation.
Should we still contact Mandy and give our cloud id? Me and my partner didn’t get them either, but I thought she already got plenty and the team is investigating the issue generally?
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@SmarulKusia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2776719#Comment_2776719
Exactly, there is nothing representative of that culture.
Look at how lazy the design of Slinger is.. an IRISH-American killer... whose lore is about being a cowboy.. And the only acknowledgement you get is a skin.. in the rift.
Personally, just find it insulting that they use RUSSIA to represent East Europe/Slavic people when most of these countries genuinely hate or have political issues with Russia, just look at the conflict between Russia and Ukraine right now, like what?
i don’t think it’s fair to say they are using Russia to represent Eastern Europe. We may very well get more Eastern European characters later on. And tying a folklore character to current politics/events is also unfair to the origins and the culture of the folklore characters. I mean. BHVR is not supporting Russia here in any way.
@Starrseed said:
I know how you feel we got German folklore ripped apart and slapped on the one Asian girl half the player base simps for. And it's not even good representation cause all they did was lol look it's a hood and it's red xD.... Bhvr should realize that sure these tales are known all over the world but they are part of some countries history and identity so either do the right or take your dirty little hands of my tales
It’s literally called the Modern Tales collection, it doesn’t need to be exactly like the origin story. And it’s got not ripped apart by giving Min the outfit. At all. Actually I find it pretty disrespectful that someone thinks in that way, as if Red Riding Hood is owned by the Germans…
And next to it being a red there is also the wolf on the back.
also we got a Gretel cosmetic for Meg (which is interestingly her second cosmetic being tied to Germany…)
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@LucaL7 said:
Guys,can I get it today? I have bubba from the start of the game! Oh my god I'm so dumb i forgot about this :(
If you have played bubba just once before the latest midchapter update went live you should get the shards.
but there were some issues while rolling them out and some people didn’t get it. Mandy/the team is on it though.
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l also noticed with my swf partner that it is sometimes just blacked out without any reason and we would need to go back to main menu and then to the lobby to join/invite. Also sometimes the Steam online status is a problem (invisible/offline)
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@stressydepressy said:
Also still waiting. How do I contact MandyTalk? Sorry, new to forums. :(
You can write on her profile wall or and then she will contact you privately to ask for your cloud id (but I think she already has enough cloud ids and let support check what went wrong there as it seems many people are affected)
i think you can click on the following link to get to her profile
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They are currently planning a concept against face camping but that might never even make it to PTB/live game.
we don’t know anything further about it, as they have said they often have various game concepts that don’t make it to the game.
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@gilgamer said:
Yeah, the mobile version has some things in it that PC and console players have been asking for years for. Makes you wonder why that is till you remember its a different company that makes and supports the mobile version.
Wait.. a different company? Which one is it?
i just thought it was a different dev team but still BHVR?
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It definitely needs to get used to, especially on short interactions and those you don’t want to go through to the end (unhooking with killer nearby, self unhook, sometimes healing)
but I do prefer it turned on
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Yeah it’s definitely different! Wouldn’t have noticed..
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@Tr1nity said:
GTFO
One might think you are not referring to the game but you told OP to gtfo. 😅
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I guess Propnight is another very recent one you haven’t mentioned.
Home Sweet Home: Survive is another one, but I don’t know if it still exists (last I heard was it was still popular in Asian regions)
Also i guess Soul at Stake was a thing.
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@Madjura said:
A brown medkit having charges leftover happens if you hit a great skillcheck. If you hit only regular skillchecks (and don't miss any) then a brown medkit should heal for exactly one health state and become empty.
Yeah. It should.
but that is not the current state in some cases.
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@anarchy753 said:
I did it today with one brown medkit and one use of Built to Last. After 1 full heal there was still like 1% of the medkit left which I only realised when BtL wouldn't recharge it. So it's possible you just didn't quite use up the medkit.
This, I have noticed this happening quite a lot recently that either a brown med-kit still has minimal charges left or green medkits not having enough charges for a full single heal…
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you have every right to not like this cosmetic but it’s really not that bad. It’s not supposed to be the flagship KPop representation and its an outfit trickster was apparently wearing for a special valentines concert (valentines being a western thing, or is it not?).
Trickster on its own is not supposed to be a ‚good‘ kind of KPop representation with him being a psychopathic serial killer and all. And I think (may be wrong here) he is described to be over-the-top on fashion choices..
also iirc BHVR has worked with an actual KPop group as consultants to create the All-Kill chapter - and I assume this also holds true for the cosmetics which might have been conceptualized back then as well.
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How dare you?! Being a human and demanding to have fun in this video game!?
having fun in DbD is reserved for us non-humans.
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Omg this discussion was still on-going?
can we all appreciate that this person just derailed a thread where someone asks for the time of release turning it into an argument where they try to call a (small) buff a nerf even though it was not related to anything here at all??… (and called me an ‚ass‘ just because I had a different opinion lol)
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Something I have noticed was when camping a pallet the killer (a huntress) could shove me away so that I couldn’t throw the pallet, which I never have seen happen before. My swf teammate had the same experience in that match once.