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@Host_yu said:
Me personally and nurse mains might hate me but I say:
1 way to nerf nurse is by making "Spasmodic Breath" basekit. For those who don't know Spasmodic breath makes Nurse 115/4.6 after a successful blink for 60 seconds, that's 1 minute that its a killer you can actually loop freely. I also think that this way they wouldn't have to even rework most of her addons range and recovery can be good for a real reason.
I feel nurse right now does not need her range and recovery addons. How about for her power making her 110 and only giving her 1 blink and a longer cooldown on that blink.
What would you do?
What I would do?
Well, nothing.
Except hope that the survivors who complain about the nurse get better and learn to be better against her.
I'm not talking about you, I'm referring to the many people who come to complain about the nurse, but who never dare to show their level as a survivor against her (one wonders why, well ...)
@KerJuice said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3152284#Comment_3152284
I agree with this. Those are her two biggest problems. They are the reason why she’s able to consistently stomp survivors at 5 gens in the right hands. Make these adjustments and she’ll still keep her crown as number 1, but she won’t be destroying players so much.
A nurse can "destroy" players, indeed.
But if they are not organized, if they waste time, and if they don't have a good level against her.
Against a team that is united, that doesn't waste time, and that makes good decisions, even a very good nurse will have a difficult game.
And if not, I see sometimes players suggesting that it is impossible, for the nurse, to be able to make a tp on the spot, by looking towards the ground... one wonders well why...
I imagine the survivor trying to bait a nurse by running into her ... but unluckily, he runs into a competent nurse, and gets screwed at his own game ...
It's a pity, but that's what we call "falling on smarter than you" ...
(but instead of learning from it and trying to improve, it's easier to complain and ask for a mechanical change in the gameplay of the nurse)
Bottom line:
it's not the nurse's fault that a survivor can't play against her,
it is not her fault either if a survivor knows how to play against her, but ends up having as teammates players who do not know how to play against her,
In fact, if you think about it, the problem lies with the game and its ability to make players of competent level play against each other.
And that's where the problem lies.
Because sometimes, some survivors who have not even 1000h of game are really very good against a nurse, when sometimes, others who have more than 3500h of game (it is lived) act in such a way that the nurse can put them down in 10s.
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@SuzuKR said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3139132#Comment_3139132
Range and three blinks are fundamentally unhealthy because they remove or reduce her counterplay, I agree. They should both be fully reworked.
Recharge is strong but not overpowered because it doesn't change the mindgame itself, only makes it happen more frequently. And while not relevant for most players, is almost necessary at very high levels of play because of how brutal her basekit recharge time is at that level of play.
I don't find that range addons remove the nurse's counterplay; currently, they still speed up her tp so yes, I can totally see what you mean 🤔
But after the maj, this acceleration will no longer exist, allowing players more time to get to a safe place, if they were in an area that was too clear 😊
In fact, if you think about these range addons (I'm assuming we're talking about them post-maj), they won't change anything from the moment the nurse is 0-20m from the player.
Therefore, facing a nurse who is 0-20m away from you with range addons will be the same as facing a nurse who is 0-20m away without range addons.
The difference will be if she is 21-30m away.
And so, as I said, yes, she will be able to cover a longer distance, but the survivors will still have time to see her coming, if they are aware of their surroundings, and keep an eye on them 😊
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@OGSull said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3137108#Comment_3137108
I've played against her thousands of times lol, approaching 5k hours you can call me bad if you'd like but I know how to play against her. Just saying if you get a good nurse it's pretty much gg and nurse isn't hard to master like blight or Billy with all their techs you need to learn. First blink zone 2nd blink hit. Repeat, that's nurse for you.
What you say is interesting; when survivors know how to play against the nurse, the problem is no longer their skills, but rather sometimes the composition of their team.
It's quite true that sometimes a good survivor can be given companions who are not as resourceful as he is, and who don't exactly know how to play against the nurse.
But then, there's really no one to blame in this case, except for the randomness of the team composition (for people playing SoloQ, of course).
@legacycolt said:
And again, the only people defending nurse are the typical dbd forum nurse mains. Quite funny.
“Bu-But she has counterplay…”
Nurse needs to get nerfed for many reasons. DBD is becoming nurse simulator and it needs to stop.
"Nurse needs to get nerfed for many reasons."
Wrong. You want the nurse to be nerfed because you just don't like to run into her often (I'm not saying that, you are).
It's not the nurse's fault that you run into her a lot ... and again ... that's just talk ... who's to say you actually run into her as often as you claim?
And as for the fact that when you face her, you know how to play against her and not your mates ... it's a pity, but it's not her fault at all.
Find a team that knows how to play against her, that's the best you can do.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3137117#Comment_3137117
It took 5 years for DH and Iri Head to be nerfed...
DH was literally: "I have no skill but I can restart the chase by pressing E" 🤔
Never seen such an illogical perk.
And I also play survivor 🤗
@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3137105#Comment_3137105
If you can only use your eyes and not your critical thinking ability, then yes.
You don't need to see data to know that Ghostface and Myers are pretty underpowered. You don't need data to see that Doctor is mid. You don't need data to see that 4-man SWF's can be pretty OP. See where this is going?
What you say is very interesting; you talk about "seeing" something 🤔
That's exactly why I keep asking everyone who comes to say that the nurse is too strong to show us videos of their gameplay against her.
Because it's easy to say something, but it's better if ppl can prove it 🤗
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@Omans said:
The only reason nurse hasn't been nerfed at this point is because she "keeps SWF in check." No other reason makes any sense.
All experienced players who aren't biased nurse mains who just want to keep winning can agree she is too strong.
Yet, "keeping SWF in check" is a terrible reason. You can't even change killers in lobby anymore, so even if you do meet a SWF you know is an SWF, you can't change to nurse.
At some point the devs will realize it. It is one of those things like keys and moris. Everyone knew they were broken for years, and the devs just did...nothing, for a long time, until they did something, and fixed it.
Nurse will be the same, and all the nurse mains boosted to oblivion by nurse's OP mechanics who will come to this thread to claim she is fine with lies and madeup statistics, well, they'll switch to Blight, because the game is only fun if they are winning in an unfair matchup.
Or maybe the reason is simply that she is not OP, especially when her range addons will be impacted by the update 😋
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@OGSull said:
Nurse has been arguably the strongest killer in dbd for about 6 years now and not much has changed. She's had some nerfs in the past but it still doesn't really help the game in it's current state. Now that dh and decisive has been nerfed, I think it's time for another nerf nurse. Personally I feel like nurse has no counterplay if she's been mastered. People say, "oh just double back and lose line of sight." But you can only do so much and on some maps you can't lose line of sight so it's very easy for her. You can't hold forward against range addon nurse and even if you do she'll catch up quickly. I just think bare minimum she needs range add-ons removed and maybe a longer recharge time for her blinks. She doesn't really have to earn her power like oni or wait awhile like blight to get their power. This is just my opinion, but if you guys disagree please let me know.
I think that if you feel that the nurse is too powerful, you may not be able to play well against her.
I agree that some nurses are very very powerful, but they play at high ranks, where they can meet survivors who can put them in trouble.
After the update, the nurse's tp's will no longer allow her to go faster, which makes her really good the way she is.
@[Deleted User] said:
Hopefully she get's some base-kit changes sometime soon. The range nerf is nice and all but, like, everything else that's wrong with her is still there soooo....
I would be interested in you showing us how you play the nurse.
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@Coffeecrashing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3135097#Comment_3135097
Are you claiming that Nurse’s sustained map traversal speed will be the same? Because that is the very specific thing I am referring to. I care about how long it would take her to blink across a large map, using max ranged blinks.
Whether the nurse is tp on 5m, 10m, 20m, 30m, whether she uses range addons, recharge addons, or addons allowing her to prepare a raspberry clafoutis... her tp speed will be the same 🤗
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@Coffeecrashing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3135075#Comment_3135075
Nope. I don’t care about your shaming or the survivor handbook. I play to win. I don’t play to fit into your idea of what a “good killer” is.
What I meant was that a nurse who, after the update, can no longer use the range addons, and feels obliged to camp ... well, that's a very, very low level nurse, plain and simple 😁
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@Coffeecrashing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3135007#Comment_3135007
3: The addon change lowers Nurse’s map traversal speed, which encourages her to proxy camp more, and proxy camping is more reliable than leaving a hooked survivor to patrol generators.
No, honestly, even after the maj, the range addons will still be very useful to the nurse. Only bad players would need to camp because of this.
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@legacycolt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3134714#Comment_3134714
Get good without overpowered and unfair killers :)
The nurse is fine the way she is, more specifically, the way she will be once the range addons no longer speed up her tp.
After that, if you don't like a killer, you're free to play another game, right 😏
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@drsoontm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3134787#Comment_3134787
Although having a laugh would be nice, I'm more interested in seeing their Nurse plays, after the next update. (That range speed adjustment should make her a tad more difficult to use by some.)
In fact, if I'm not talking nonsense, the addons, as they will be after this update, will be as they were some time ago; nurses will have no trouble adapting, since that's how it was in the past 🤗
@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3134921#Comment_3134921
Sadly. I'll be one of those 🤣. I was starting to learn nurse before the range change, but I was always a double range sloot. After the change. My nurse gameplay took off for obvious reasons. While my nurse is filthy ATM. It'll take some adjustment on my end to fix my muscle memory for the slower speeds.
There is a double benefit to the fact that range addons no longer increase speed.
First, it will allow the nurse to have a better grasp of his environment, during the tp, as it will go slower than currently 😉
2, it will allow the survivors to have more time to get to safety, and prepare their escape 😏
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@Marik1987 said:
- Nurse Addons adjustments
- Kavanaghs Last Breath - increased the blink duration by 30%
- Heavy Panting - increased the blink duration by 20%
- this keeps the speed the Nurse blinks at, a consistent speed with or without addons
- Opinions?
Opinions ?
Regarding these adjustments, I completely agree with that ☺️
As for the rest, the nurse is fine the way she is 🤗
@DBDVulture said:
These changes will make the "bad" nurses play something else. But the good nurses will still stomp people's face in.
https://youtu.be/ZEzpkirSaNc?t=255
Here is a video of Hens stomping very good survivors with near perfect play on nurse with no addons or perks.
Very good survivors ? I have faced better survivors than that in my games ... and I am neither a competitive nurse nor a nurse with the best MMR ... 😂
And otherwise, I invite those who say the nurse needs extra big nerves, to show us videos of them playing against her 😉
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Remove paletts from this map? 😕
No way! 😮
This will be the perfect map for me to practice with Wesker! 🤣
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I want to see Saly twerking.
Imagine the nurse twerking in front of a hook.
The ultimate in strangeness in DbD.
🤣
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I think it's a shame that Sadako gets supplanted by the Dredge ... I mean, it has better teleportation abilities, more places to teleport to, and better passive power 🤨
In fact, sometimes it feels like the Dredge ... that's what Sadako should have been to be truly oppressive 😶
And that's a shame, because I love Sadako: her appearance, her sounddesign, the erratic way she moves ... she would only miss a little bit of extra mobility 🤗
What do you think about it? 😀
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Wesker in a bathing suit.
Wesker in bathrobe.
Wesker in a dressing gown.
Wesker with a kitchen apron.
🤣
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What would be really interesting to look at are the killrate by MMR/killer.
Because the data you are talking about is very general, and encompasses all levels.
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And when the survivors will hit him with a pallet, he'll say : "Oh, it's a flesh wound !" 🤣
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The thing is, to prove something, or to show the recurrence of something, you need more than a screenshot.
That's why I often tell people who complain about the nurse to share with us videos of the games they play against her.
Because it's easy to say : "She's this, she's that ..." but if in the back, the guys actually play with the agility of a potato ... necessarily, they will be destroyed ...
In the same way, some players say that it's super easy to play the nurse, that any moron could do it ... so, in the same way, I urge them to show us videos of them, playing with the nurse, and destroying the best world survivors of DbD.
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@Mondhirsch said:
She is still broken af especially now when Iron Will and DH are nerfed.
She's broken af ?
Prove it.
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@Entitled_survivor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3125520#Comment_3125520
Your argument is as stupid as wraith slinger and spirit gettin nerfed back then,, aside spirit were the two others gettin 4ks or nurse level results?no,, but still got gutted,,not only on add-ons but also their base kits,,
It's true, you're right, by the way, back in the 2016 nurse's day, she wasn't just doing 4K/0g, yet she was OP. So effectively, the argument doesn't hold up.
So the problem according to you is the addons. Okay, so how are they a problem?
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@Entitled_survivor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3125426#Comment_3125426
You insist on being passive aggressive even though i clearly explained my problem is not nurse but her range addons,, ima go ahead and be honest with you then,i dont think you can understand what you are reading and trying to reason with a person like you is wasted time 💁♂️
There is one thing that could prove that his range addons are a problem: that all nurses who use them do 4K / 0 generators.
Prove to me that this is indeed the case, and I will consider these addons a problem.
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@Entitled_survivor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3125359#Comment_3125359
Ooh my bad I didn't know I was talking to a dbd professor 😂😂next time I'll make sure to record so we can discuss my mistakes 😂jokes aside I know how to play against nurse,, breaking Los to either force her into predicting or blink to where she last saw me first, not always trying to run back at her when she charges her blinks, keeping it mixed,, thing is for a killer that ignores every single rule other killers have to follow she needs her strongest addons be nerfed accordingly,, im not hating on nurse, just her range addons amd the stupid possibilities they offer her
A teacher? No, just a logical person. I'm always curious to see the results of the games of players who complain about the nurse, to see what their games are really like.
Since you know how to play against her, then you won't have any problem to show us your games 🤗
It might also help those who don't know how to play against her to improve 😊
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@Entitled_survivor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3125346#Comment_3125346
You perception of the word crying is actually scarier than the part of the community you are referring to,, traveling faster or not I think range add-ons should be deleted, and that's an opinion you are allowed to disagree with all you want
Show me how you play against the nurse, so we can have a baseline for the grievances you have against her 😉
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@Entitled_survivor said:
Remove her range add-ons, make her blink swings count as special attacks and she is fine,, playing vs nurse is actually fun despite her potential to end chases super fast
INCREDIBLE.
At 4:53 PM, Mandy officially explains that the nurse's range addons no longer speed up her tp.
And at ... 5:49 PM, less than an hour after this announcement, we already see someone coming to cry to remove the nurse's range addons.
There are times when I am literally desperate for a part of the DbD community ...
Man ... seriously.
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@Coffeecrashing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3125255#Comment_3125255
I thought those two addons were only increasing the speed of the blinks, when the blinks were less than 20 meters? And those two addons were fine when the blinks were over 20 meters?
Or were the under 20 meter blinks fine, and it was the over 20 meter blinks that were broken with those addons, because they didn’t override the blink duration cap?
There is so much conflicting information on these forums, that I’m honestly not sure what exactly was the issue with those two addons, and I’m still confused.
The addons increased the distance traveled.
However, the game, if I understood correctly, considered that it took X seconds to cover the distance, whatever it was.
Therefore, traveling a greater distance while keeping the duration unchanged inevitably causes the speed of travel to increase.
I guess they made it so that the game doesn't have to consider that it takes X seconds to do a tp anymore, which allowed to increase the distance, without impacting the speed.
However, one question remains. Why was the speed of the nurse also accelerated over short distances? That was the question, because a nurse who did a short tp with range addon did it faster than without.
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@dugman said:
I don’t think killers need more bloodpoints than survivors simply because they have less downtime and have a lot of maneuvering around the map to do during play. It really comes down to what you actually need to spend bloodpoints on in the first place.
Killers buy perks, add-ons and offerings, that’s it, and once you’ve bought a perk it’s locked in forever. So once you have the perks you really want the only thing you’re buying are add-ons and offerings, and honestly unless you are really, really fishing for some specific add-on you can basically just use what you find in one bloodweb per match and do just fine.
Survivors end up grinding a bit more in comparison because not only do they buy perks and offerings like killers but they also buy equipment and add-ons that are specific to specific pieces of equipment. So if you like using a toolbox each match for instance, you not only need to potentially find a new tools in the bloodweb after each match (depending on if you lose it) but you also will want to find add-ons that are specifically Tool add-ons versus the add-ons for flashlights or maps or keys or whatever. That makes the survivor bloodwebs effectively filled with a lot more “junk” you probably aren’t interested in so you may have to comb through two or three bloodwebs between matches just to get a new set of two add-ons plus maybe a new item that you actually like.
So even if you assume it costs the same amount of bloodpoints for survivors to get all the perks and offerings they want, there is still a difference in cost when it comes to the rest of the loadout. I wouldn’t be all that surprised if survivors tend to grind bloodwebs maybe twice as much as killers when it comes to replacing their add-ons and equipment.
You're right.
The survivor can engage 4 elements in the game.
The killer, 3.
That's it, everything is said.
I can confirm that as a survivor, it is sometimes a monumental PURGE to find what you want in the web.
Suggestion: BHVR, could you implement a system of exchange of items / accessories / offerings:
- between characters of the same account
- between different characters
No because having 40 purple flashlights is good ... but if you never use them, and you have a friend who is a specialist in the field and lacks them ... 🤔
In the same way that ... how to say ... what do you want me to do with these tens of "Midwich" offerings on my nurse ??? 😂
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Where survivors get screwed is when they only do one thing for the entire game 🤔
The killer is forced to multi-task because he is alone to do everything 😅
The survivors are four, so it's up to them to figure out how to turn on the tasks to collect the most BP 😊
On the other hand, we talk about the fact that raising the BP limit to 2M ... is still too low? 😁
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124797#Comment_3124797
Yea. Midwhich is a map that you can't do much against her
Map : Midwich
Killer : Nurse
Perks : Lethal pursuer, Darkness revealed, floods of rage, jolt(or devour hope)
Addons : Kavanagh's last breath + Heavy panting
That's it. Welcome to a boring game on DbD 🤣 (I don't play like that as a nurse ... I think it's just stupid to arrive in "I'm going to crush you" mode ... I might as well leave it to the randomness of the map, at least 🤗)
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@HugTheHag said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124816#Comment_3124816
I don't think it means people want the "easy way", since playing killer is not necessarily easy, especially as you get up there in mmr.
I think some survivors stopped playing because of the toll the increase in losses took on their morale, especially since some mmrs were hit harder than others. There is also an increase in tunneling and camping, which gets old fast. In these conditions, it's fair to say a lot of survivors could not have as much fun as before or farm as viably as they used to.
In turn, killer is not necessarily easy, but it's easier for beginners, and even a fat loss as killer awards more points than an average survivor game lost. So they don't want easy wins, they want games that are fun for them and that rewards them with enough points to keep unlocking perks and make fun builds.
I think there's some of that too, you're right 🤗
I play as much killer on survivor, but when I start Discord, and join my team, I actually hear more "X or Y tunneled us/camp." than before, and I also see it directly in game... and somewhere ... yes, I can completely understand that it can bore a survivor ... so he leaves on the killer side to take his mind off it, yes ... 🙄
I just hope that these killers who camp / tunnel ... are NOT survivors who have passed to the other side because they have suffered too much in the past 🤣
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@IamFran said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124695#Comment_3124695
You can repeat that argument like a mantra or the classic "she is hard to play" argument whatever you want but the nurse is a failed design of the 2016 pure infinites strongly survivor sided maps era, I mean, she's a killer who strongly bypass the main defenses of survivors against killers (pallets and windows) and also have high mobility/high pressure and if it wasn't enough she has been indirectly buffed in the last midpatch with the general killer buffs. As some people said, becoming her M1s special attacks would be a nice start, but in my opinion she needs a rework to fit the current times.
PS: Killer main here.
First of all I completely agree that the argument "It's complicated to play SO it's normal that it's powerful." is not valid😃
Well, let's say it's more subtle than that.
Let's say a killer is extremely complicated to master, like, really the infamous thing, you know.
And that in the end, he's trash-tiered. It wouldn't make sense 😑
On the other hand, I think it makes sense that a powerful killer takes practice.
On the other hand, you, like other people, bring up the fact that the nurse would be a "Vestige of the 2016s." On the contrary, I think that she has been redesigned to fit the game, and to offer a killer who, even if he is still very strong, has nothing to do with the original nurse.
So yes, they fixed some of the bugs she could encounter, but she's still very far from what she was initially.
Many players seem to "complain" about the fact that she bypasses the physical defenses of the survivors.
But ... that's the whole point of the character. And that's what makes her so interesting: she offers a gameplay, and a counterplay, different from all the other killers ☺️ You know, I love confronting nurses; and I don't say that because I'm an expert survivor that no nurse in the world can touch. Absolutely not, that's not the case at all by the way, I am a decent survivor, nothing more. I just love the fact that I'm facing this killer who interacts with his environment in such a unique way that is completely different from other killers 😋
The fact that you prefer to fight the other killers and not the nurse doesn't necessarily mean that it's her fault; it's your appreciation; I agree that she can't please everyone, but that's the principle of the world in general.
That's why I encourage the survivors who complain to show us how they play against her, because I'm sure there could be some constructive exchanges that would allow them to learn some things when playing against the nurse 🤗
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@Gylfie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124801#Comment_3124801
No worries. :) And I take back my statement about not being able to discuss with a Nurse profile picture, you seem friendly and constructive.
I agree that liking things is subjective and changes should not be made based on what people enjoy or dislike. Changes should be made based on objective facts (such as 'this is too strong'), which in the end is something only the developers of this game can do, although we as players like to think we know better based on our subjective experiences.
"And I take back my statement about not being able to discuss with a Nurse profile picture, you seem friendly and constructive."
I actually love the nurse, but Bubba, the Twins, the Demogorgon and Wesker also have a special place in my heart 😍🤗
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@Gylfie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124801#Comment_3124801
No worries. :) And I take back my statement about not being able to discuss with a Nurse profile picture, you seem friendly and constructive.
I agree that liking things is subjective and changes should not be made based on what people enjoy or dislike. Changes should be made based on objective facts (such as 'this is too strong'), which in the end is something only the developers of this game can do, although we as players like to think we know better based on our subjective experiences.
You know, I like to tease people, to be a little bit sarcastic, but I'm just a player like all of you, nothing more, nothing less 🤗
I like DbD a lot, it's a nice game, of course, with its own flaws, but it has potential.
I really like the nurse, she is one of the strongest killers in the game, she has a unique power and I understand that she can't please everyone 🤔
When she could perform up to 5 tp, with only fatigue as a consequence, and no cooldown, I agree that she was way too powerful 😑
However, today, even though she remains on the podium of DbD killers, she is not the power monster she used to be; she is still very strong, but when facing a team of experts, she will be sweaty 😁
That's why I find it sad to see so many people spitting on it, trying to pass off a personal assessment as a general statement 😥
When I asked all these people to show us their gameplay against the nurse, it was not to make fun of them ... but simply because I am sure they would benefit from doing so 😉
I would love to be able to point out to them, from my modest level of nurse (I'm neither an expert nurse nor a competitive nurse), the mistakes I might notice, just so that they understand some things and improve 😉
An anecdote, like this: the other day, I was playing with some friends against a nurse; I died first (yes, shame, I know), and so I was looking at a friend's screen share...
At one point, she said "Oh my, she's really good". I didn't say anything, but I could see that in fact, the nurse wasn't that strong (yes, I know, I lost to a not OP nurse, I expect some people will seize on that fact to mock, but that's okay). I had also noticed that my friend played way too simply: she didn't run along the walls, her trajectories were way too linear and straight, she didn't try to take irrational directions to disrupt the nurse, etc.
The reason I tell this is that sometimes the survivor will feel, from HIS perspective, that he was overpowered by the nurse, when in fact, when you look at the scene with an outside eye, you realize that it was more like he was giving her too many opportunities.
There is another thing that I find unfortunate, in some players (survivors).
If you play the nurse, and you dare to point out that they were, for example, too greedy, too provocative, or toxic, often the answer is the same.
"Ha ha, you're complaining when you're playing nurse."
If they get run over, they complain that the nurse is too strong, but if THEY are pointed out as being unpleasant, they retort that I wasn't powerful enough. You can tell what kind of mentality you're dealing with when you read this kind of comment 🤣
And finally, I find it really annoying that when I elaborate on what I'm saying and try to discuss, you always get a guy who comes along, who doesn't give a damn, and just writes :
"Yeah, the nurse is too strong, she doesn't belong in the game, lol."
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@HugTheHag said:
Killers already gain more bloodpoints on average than a survivor, so I think they're already "compensated", if it makes sense. Plus, it is not like killer needs to have the skill of 4 person combined, their role is already made powerful to compensate for the 4 v 1.
Also, there are already plenty of former survivor players who stopped playing that role as it feels unrewarding and it's easier to gain bloodpoints as killer, so if the killer bloodpoints were doubled or more ? There would be virtually no survivors left, everyone would want to play killer.
"There would be virtually no survivors left, everyone would want to play killer."
When you see that after the last update, the waiting time as a killer has drastically increased ... proof that a lot of players actually want the "easy" way ... if on top of that we give one more reason to these people to go and play as killers ... my God ... 🤣
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@NuKeD said:
as a killer main, nurse definitely needs a nerf, she's too broken and there is little counterplay against her once you master her.
I have the impression that many people associate "counterplay" with classic game counterplay.
Wouldn't the best counterplay against a nurse, besides being stealthy and breaking her LOS, be the speed of the rest of the team to make the generators as fast as possible to not let a snowball occure ?
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@Gylfie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124705#Comment_3124705
Then, likewise, just because I still think Nurse is an extremely unfun experience in this game, I am not a baby and I don't play DbD to bully killers. I merely turned what you said around on you to make you see it was a faulty generalization.
What I meant with the Nurse profile picture was that these players clearly love the Nurse above all else for them to choose her as their profile picture and they are going to struggle to see things from another perspective.
If I made a generalization, I apologize, because it is a figure of speech that is not useful at all, and that brings nothing to the debate! 🙄
It's obvious that SOME players like to play the nurse, some don't, some don't care, some like to play it, some don't, etc. I agree!
But not liking a killer is only subjective, that's why, somewhere, it's sad to see players transforming a "I don't like to face X or Y" into "X or Y must disappear" ... admit it's a little bit exaggerated.
By the way, thank you for saying "Nurse is an unpleasant gaming experience." ! Because on the other hand, I can completely understand that one prefers to face this or that killer, in the same way that I myself prefer or don't prefer this or that killer 😋
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124715#Comment_3124715
Yea. Some maps are better vs her then others. People dont like to look at that when they make their "nurse is OP !!!" argument though. They like to say "she ignores EVERYTHING and goes through walls !!!!" They refuse to look at their selfs and learn how to counter her the way she should be countered.
I totally agree that a nurse who plays dirty, has the range addons + starstruck + agitation + lethal pursuer and plays on Midwich ... might as well say she tips the scales in her favor 🤣
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124665#Comment_3124665
If only people were capable of realizing it's a skill issue. If only they were capable of realistically viewing themselves and realizing their skill is the issue, and not the nurse.
I would add that other factors come into play: luck, bad luck, the RNG of the game, the choices of the survivors/nurse, the composition of the team, the mood of the players during the game, etc.
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@Laurie268 said:
Anyone else remember how fun DBD was when nurse was disabled for a month? All these complaints about her started after she was re-enabled again because people realized how unbalanced and unhealthy she actually is for the game
Of course the crying stopped when she was turned off. Since the crying is coming from people who can't stand to meet a powerful killer who gives them a hard time, if they can get away from this monstrous insurmountable difficulty (lol), they are very happy about it 😂
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@threeQuinn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124642#Comment_3124642
"and lowering all the paddles in the game" So DbD gameplay? xd
I must have misunderstood, sorry 😣
I meant that there are players who, as soon as they can't play in the most simplistic way of the game, it doesn't suit them, and they find it unacceptable to have to think a little bit more than just: "I press E, I go from pallet to pallet, I go through the window, I come back, I go through the window again... my God, I'm a living God!" 😁
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@Gylfie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3124642#Comment_3124642
Kinda like how only babies would keep maining Nurse because they can't bully the ugly survivors without blinking and skipping all the 'paddles' in the game?
Also I really can't take anyone with a Nurse profile pic seriously on this topic. I just know their bias is going to be so far up their behind that it's impossible to have a decent discussion with them.
First, I don't play DbD to "bully" players 🙄
Secondly, as much as I love the nurse, I enjoy other killers 🤗
Thirdly, as long as someone comes to discuss with me in a calm, thoughtful way, and doesn't start to bury their head in the sand with "You're a hand nurse, there's no point in discussing with you!", I'm open to any discussion 😊
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Personally, I like to use the nurse with
- Lethal pursuer
- BBQ & Chili
- I'm all ears
- Floods of rage
The advantage is that it gives me a lot of information.
The disadvantage is that I have no perk to regress the generators, or to influence the health of the survivors.
On other killers, a little Lethal pursuer with BBQ, to speed up the localization and the chase at the beginning of the game 😁
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@Kira4Evr said:
They were never bugged. The increased blink speed was intended apparently.
Also, the Nurse hate will never stop sadly because people are babies
"Also, the Nurse hate will never stop sadly because people are babies"
That explains a lot ... indeed, only babies would keep crying because they can't bully the ugly killer by holding the "E" and lowering all the paddles in the game 😝
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@Slowpeach said:
Won't happen. Whether she's balanced or not she's just a bucket load of no fun to play against with little player interaction. Outthink her once, she gets a second chance. Outthink her twice, she sighs a bit and then is right on your butt to roll the dice again. It's just an awful gameplay loop and it completely nullifies so much of the game that other killers can't ignore. For example Huntress can still hit you through pallets and windows as Nurse can but she can't hit you through walls or even different enclosed floors. Furthermore Huntress has limited hatchets, Nurse's blink cooldown is basically up always so she doesn't have to resource manage. Yes she's 3.8 speed, but how much does that actually matter when she can travel the distance that she can with her power.
Honestly even if she only had her meme addons forced on her people would still hate it even though she would be awful. The hate towards Nurse is partly balance but also how her gameplay is. Also because she is the best killer, she attracts a lot of toxic try hards which multiply her issues. That's something that can't be helped, but it does explain why as long as Nurse is one of the better killers, the hatred is going absolutely nowhere.
It's funny, but I know quite a few people who don't care about the nurse, and don't hate her ... and yet, they are not expert survivors, it happens to us like everyone else to be laminated by a nurse ...
So no, only those who can't stand the fact that a killer is very strong will continue to hate her, and those whose ego can't stand the fact that they can meet someone stronger than them.
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@colley94 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3114618#Comment_3114618
You're missing the point completely. It's not about playing against the best teams, clearly at the top 1% balance is different; for the majority of people Nurse ruins this game which is why the player count will never go much higher.
I know what you mean; but in this case, it is not the nurse's fault, because it is not the player who controls her who chooses the Lobby 🤔
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@legacycolt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3120374#Comment_3120374
You need more practice with normal killers, nurse main.
There is no connection (or else develop), but ... ok, if you want ...
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@legacycolt said:
Nurse needs to get nerfed.
You need more practice playing against the nurse.
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I would have no problem discussing the acceleration of the nurse when the tp is less than 20m (when using his range addons).
As for the rest, the nurse is fine the way she is.
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@Silasy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3118498#Comment_3118498
If Nurse was introduced today, do you think she will same as now?
Just like you, I don't know, I'm not in the head of the developers.
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@Silasy said:
She needs a completely rework. Her power was made for 2016 standarts.
You must have missed an episode.
Her power is nothing like the power she had in 2016.