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This kind of stuff has become beyond frustrating. BHVR is spending time and effort “fixing” things that aren’t broken, while ignoring things that are broken or that people have been asking to fix/improve for a long time. If I felt like BHVR was really prioritizing community input in their decisions, I might actually spend some money on the game to support it. But I haven’t felt that way in a long time, and the recent changes just reinforce my position even more.
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Like other “cosmetic” changes (like the UI), I think everyone will get used to it pretty quickly and we’ll all forget what the “old way” used to look like in a few months. What’s more frustrating to me is that BHVR spends time/effort on things that nobody was asking for and had no reason to be changed, but continues to ignore fixing/updating things that people have been asking them to do for months/years.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
What a surprise, they released an overtuned Killer on purpose and are no adjusting him. This has nothing to do with Survivors complaining, it was their full intention to raise the sales by making him way too easy for what he achieves.
Fully agree. We’ve seen this happen with other killers in the past, so this seems like a pattern. Sell tons of DLCs with the excitement of an especially powerful killer, put up with survivor complaints for a little while, then nerf the killer to something that people probably wouldn’t have been all that excited about at initial launch.
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@MentiPento said:
I am not streamer so i didn't record the game. I reported them in game but i am sure they don't get banned. All of them from Germany. Usually best players in DBD from Germany. But they even use cheats too. They were invisible and can't hook nobody even they were on my shoulders.
You don’t need to stream to record the game. Nothing will happen unless you record and send the video to BHVR
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Even things that don’t require any video evidence aren’t getting addressed, at least in my experience. I’ve reported people for post-game chat harassment (people saying hateful things like they hope something really bad happens to my family) and I never get any acknowledgment that there was any action taken against those players. It feels like BHVR really isn’t taking it seriously.
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It seems like half the things that get announced just get forgotten about and never happen. The amount of content in the game now that has to be maintained is getting overwhelming and it seems like BHVR has a hard time keeping up with just keeping the game running. I wish BHVR would stop announcing all these “roadmap” things because it just gets people’s hopes up when lots of those things that get announced will never happen.
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A better solution would be to start retiring old items and add-ons that nobody ever uses (keys, anyone?) and introducing new items/add-ons that are more worthwhile to actually use. Unfortunately, BHVR doesn’t seem to want to prioritize this, so I doubt this is ever going to happen.
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I agree with most of this. Croatia Prenn Chapel is definitely not “balanced though”. As @Daniel_Silva04 said, one of the strongest main buildings in the game and the jungle gym next to shack. That’s definitely at least slightly survivor-sided, if not very survivor-sided.
Hawkins needs to just go away (again). Miserable map for killers and survivors alike.
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It’s extremely frustrating. It’s a very cumbersome and time consuming process to have to submit video evidence of cheating. Essentially it means that the only way there is even a remote chance of getting a cheater banned, players have to run recording software 100% of the time, which uses system resources and hard drive space. On top of that, it’s a gigantic pain to find the video, edit the video, upload to YouTube, etc. The number of people who are actually recording their matches is very small, and most of them probably don’t even bother going through the reporting process because of how time-consuming it is.
All this because BHVR doesn’t want to invest resources in functioning anti-cheat software. I guess it’s working for them because people are not leaving the game in droves due to cheaters. I will say, to BHVR’s credit, that it has been a quite a while since I’ve encountered a blatant cheater.
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can you post just one video to show this? I assume you are getting video captures anyway if you are reporting the cheaters. I haven’t seen blatant cheaters in quite a while, so I’m always skeptical when I see all these posts coming from brand new accounts that claim rampant cheating.
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@A_T_E said:
Another example of "don't fix what ain't broken"
It’s so frustrating. No matter how many times people complain about BHVR making changes that nobody is asking for, they keep doing it anyway. There are so many things they have needlessly spent time and effort on that could have been better spent on changes that people actually want.
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I guess if I’m looking at it from the perspective of people who enjoyed playing pre-nerf Skull Merchant, yeah the nerfs were frustrating. But SM was also boring and annoying AF to play against on the survivor side, and you need to realize that this sentiment was widespread, not just a small minority of players.
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I don’t assume it’s going to be a sweaty match if I see a sacrificial ward. I think it’s simply someone who doesn’t want to be put into an unfair match from the beginning. I assume it’s going to be a sweaty match if I see a map offering, because nearly every time it’s either a killer who has a heavy advantage on that map or a SWF team taking me to an extremely survivor sided map like Eyrie or Badham
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@cesspoolechochamber said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3921581#Comment_3921581
Welcome to solo q dbd….
I play solo queue about 50% of the time and most of the time it’s fine. I focus on improving my gameplay and trying to loop killers as long as possible. Sometimes my teammates are brand new and/or useless players and yes those matches aren’t much fun. But other times I have good/great teammates and that matches are always fun even if I personally don’t escape. Didn’t you yourself literally just say “don’t worry about winning?” Try to take this same attitude yourself
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@Firellius said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3921581#Comment_3921581
Here's my hot take, but I'm pretty sure that the folks that camp aren't having fun either.
How do you know? It’s pretty amazing that you’re able to accurately judge the level of enjoyment in the game for all these people that you’ve never met before.
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@cesspoolechochamber said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3921575#Comment_3921575
Unlike you I don't care about winning which was the whole point. I can enjoy the game even if I lose, its how killers win that isn't fun.
I don’t really care that much either. But keep in mind that a lot of players probably aren’t going to have much fun if they are constantly losing. Telling other people that they shouldn’t play the way they want to play to try to win and have fun because it’s not fun for you is kind of hypocritical.
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@cesspoolechochamber said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3921551#Comment_3921551
Survivors don't even win half the matches what are you even talking about. The fact you think this is about winning is crazy. It has more to do with the garbage gameplay that comes with camping/tunneling. If a killer wins because of perks/rng/skill, great it's part of the game. Gg and next match. But when you use tactics that completely take another player out of the match and there is nothing they can do about it. Yeah when comes to that then no you don't have right to try to win.
So I assume you can show us all here how easy it is to win without ever camping or tunneling? I’m looking forward to seeing some of your killer gameplay
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@cesspoolechochamber said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3921476#Comment_3921476
Weaker killers based on what? High mmr? Like seriously that's how you want to create gameplay based off of? How about you just play the game and have fun instead of worrying about winning every match.
So only survivor players are allowed to try to win? OK
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why are there so many brand new alt accounts all talking about cheating and commenting/upvoting each others’ posts lately?
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The people who complain about the DC penalty are the reason the DC penalty needs to be in place
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I find it just a tad suspicious that we have a bunch of brand new accounts all saying the same thing and commenting on each others’ posts.
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@buggybug said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920956#Comment_3920956
You are doing an us vs them stating that survivor mains only play survivor or not much killer yet killer mains play both sides evenly which is not true at all.
There are people who play only killer or very little survivor cause I have a friend who plays like 90% killer of time so anytime he does survivor which is with me and other friend, we gotta always be prepared to give instructions.
Where did I say “killer mains play both sides evenly?”
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@DeBecker said:
The forums are still as killer biased as always. If you would have taken a better look at all the threads you would have noticed that basically every survivor idea gets downvoted massively and get attacked quite harshly too. As sson as they see their overall advantages going down, they come up in masses and try to pitty-counter everything thats said.
literally just look at the downvotes vs upvotes for this post. That already proves you wrong. Or any other post with a pro-killer point of view. Please show me one, just one, pro-survivor post that had more downvotes than upvotes. I will guarantee that if there is one out there, it was so bad that even survivor main players were like “uh, this is a bad idea because nobody will ever want to play killer again.”
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some get fixed immediately, some have been in the game for years and still haven’t been fixed. It usually depends on how game-breaking the bug is.
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@Twiggsy said:
Apparently you can never lose as the last survivor now since it counts as a draw so I'll just admit I'll just abandon everytime now and other survivors will definitely do it too.
We already do that to skip the the Mori, now we got even more reason and incentive since we can just wipe our loss besides keeping everything, abandoning is now a guaranteed hatch escape now no reason to look for that.
I think they need to really reconsider these changes and properly display when you draw or lose when you abandon.
It’s pretty clear that whoever thought this was a good way to make the abandon system work doesn’t actually play the game.
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@H2H said:
The anticheat in this game is a joke. I played 3 games today and 2 of them had blatant cheaters.
Like everything else, BHVR won’t prioritize it unless player count starts to drop.
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There are definitely far more survivor mains (people who play killer rarely or never) than there are killer mains. There are a couple reasons: 1) It’s a matter of how the game is set up by numbers (4:1 survivor to killer ratio), and 2) the fact that killer is the more difficult role once you get to a higher skill level, so some people play killer a lot less once they get to this level.
It’s unfortunate that more people don’t play both sides, because that would eliminate a vast majority of the “us vs. them” toxicity and trolling that we frequently see here.
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Everyone agrees that Trapper is among the weakest killers in the game. The real question if BHVR will ever rework him to get him out of the basement. Given the pace that they have been updating older killers, I would say it’s probably never going to happen.
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because it sells DLCs. For that reason alone, those busted AF add-ons will never be changed/removed
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apparently it is technically impossible for servers to detect when someone is doing something they shouldn’t be able to do
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It’s very clear that whoever came up with the win/draw/lose conditions for abandoning the match does not actually play this game. The last survivor now is guaranteed a draw, so now there’s no reason at all for hatch to be in the game. Anyone who actually plays the game would have very quickly realized how stupid and nonsensical that.
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@ScissorKid02 said:
Yes, the abandon thing is bad, but why didn't they change the rarity recolors? A large portion of people, me included, want the originals back. Bhvr has some really selective hearing sometimes.
This follows a long pattern of BHVR getting overwhelming feedback in support of an idea and then doing something completely different. Very frustrating
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It really seems like the abandon match conditions were developed by people who don’t play the game. These make no sense at all.
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what can we do to change this (the perception that he is low effort, high reward)? Easy answer: everyone who is complaining should actually try playing killer themselves. As usual, most of the complaints are coming from people who never play killer and would probably struggle mightily if they actually tried playing themselves.
Everyone who will inevitably downvote this, please feel free to prove me wrong with evidence -
map offerings should have been removed from all game modes a long time ago. This isn’t an issue specific to Chaos Shuffle mode.
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It would be great if we could get an explanation from the devs on this one. Deactivating any unused free accounts from that Epic giveaway a long time ago seems like a very common-sense solution. Why hasn’t this been done yet? Is it because there’s no way to do it because of the complications of dealing with Epic, or is it possible but BHVR is simply choosing not to do it? If it’s the former, then we can’t blame current decision-makers for it now and unfortunately we have to live with this decision to give away free accounts that in hindsight was a terrible one. If it’s the latter, then whatever BHVR says about “taking cheating seriously” is meaningless.
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How frustrating is it that BHVR is spending so many resources reworking a killer that nobody likes multiple times while ignoring many other killers for years?
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@francesinhalover said:
let me see if i understand. after having a event where i could finaly win sometimes because i didn't have to do 5 gens vs sweaty TOXIC killers. now i need to go back to normal dbd and lose 11-15 games before i can win 1 or 2?… man im not sure i can do it.
I would still lose 6-7 matches of blood moon with survivor before i won one, but at least it was fast and easier.
At least i earned some bp man. why bp so low when there's so many characters and killers in this game? i don't get it. Am i supposed to play without good addons has survivor so i lose even more? Wont even touch shards because those are more rare than my wins.
After 1000 hours i'm not sure i can keep going on. i havent noticed any pogress in my player skill since 100 hrs.
Meanwhile killers keep getting buffed. Now i never see a win vs myers or ghostface, yet ppl still want them more buffed so screw me i guess. And legion bro… the killers weak yet he always wins in my solo q's. Good stuff.
the maps i try to learn are eventually removed, There's also way too many map variation and i can't even have fun with perks because i need lithe, windows and dejavu every game.
And god forbid the game tells me how to play vs a killer, i am forced to watch otzdarva to learn anything. Not that it matters when it's one shot perks like devour hope,starstruck, stealth perks everygame to give killers easy kills vs survivors that aren't pro at the game. Idk why these perks are even a thing.
So idk man… It's just feeling bad right now not having blood moon anymore.
And i'm not excited at all for chaos shuffle. I'll still lose almost every game but now i don't have windows or a exhaustion perk.
than add in that all my ingame friends dislike the game now and left. so i'm alone.
how are you survivor mains managing atm? not the ones with swfs that are pro loopers. like the average survivors? You excited to have to deal with ghoul every game on normal matches? I'm honestly tired of this killer already, but ill take him anyday to huntress.
I play solo queue survivor and it’s been fine as long as I find the right lobbies that don’t have brand new survivors. I don’t keep track of my escapes, but it feels about the 40% average for solo queue players.
If you’re continuing to struggle, try watching some YouTube videos. That’s how I learned to play survivor better. Also, try playing killer because you’ll see what good survivors do to loop, juke, etc.
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what is a “diverse headpiece”?
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@Triplehoo said:
It is. Yesterday was abysmal for me. But I guess the problem lies on BHVR and DbD's matchmaking. Last night I got people from Korea, Japan and South America… And I live in Finland. This shouldn't be possible.
It shouldn’t be possible, but is it because BHVR refuses to enforce ping limits and they are totally fine with people abusing VPN.
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@BirdiePlays said:
The fact that killers can run four aura perks including addons is honestly a major crutch and a pain.
You're already making it so survivors can't run more than one exhausted perk, so why not give survivors this? You nerfed distortion into the ground and it gave the stealthy survivors literally no counter to any of this.
If you don't make it so they can only run one aura perk can maybe make it so they have a long cooldown or something?
Why don’t you show us some videos of yourself playing killer with 4 aura reading perks so we can see how OP it is? I assume that you will have no problems getting 4K’s every time
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MMR doesn’t do anything anyway, so does it even matter?
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@TieBreaker said:
The devs keep surprising us with basekit killer improvements, so I'm sure they will give each killer an add-on pass eventually. Hopefully the ones you want aren't at the back of the queue.
Unfortunately, the game has so much content now that BHVR can’t keep up with it all anymore. At least half the killers have been thrown into the virtual waste bin and likely won’t ever get touched again.
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@Shaddoll_Serpent said:
Why on earth do I, who just solo's or duo's, have to play against comp wannabe's sweating their balls off on a p100 Blight or Nurse with run 4 slowdowns who camps or tunnels at 5 gens? It's absolutely infuriating playing a match out that's literally doomed to be an L from the get go.
I'm so sick to death of being forced to play out matches against these type of players. Like, if matchmaking actually worked they way you think it would, then these guys should be facing seal team six swfs with the same mindset and builds constantly, but that never happens. It's just players like me getting caught in between serving no purpose, but giving these guys a completely free W. These matches are completely pointless and a waste of everyone's time because there's no way even the killer has fun dunking on players way less coordinated, sweaty, or skilled.
I don't know what the solution is, but I think it can start by heavily nerfing S tiers because I think they're very unhealthy for game balance and it's impossible to fully balance the game out when they coexist with killers like Trapper or Pig. Alternatively, improve matchmaking to where casual players don't get forced into these auto losses, I don't care how long these killers have to wait for a match, if they want to come into a match to pubstomp, then they absolutely deserve to wait to face a team with the exact same mindset as them.
The solution is functioning matchmaking. Every match I’m in on either killer or survivor side is a completely random mix of brand new players, god-like 8,000 hour players, and everything in between. We are told that the game has a SBMM system, but we all know based on experience in the game that it is completely non—functional.
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@Pulsar said:
For the game's sake, I hope it doesn't go as poorly as I think it will.
My opinion remains that this clearly demonstrates that BHVR is completely chasing the money. I do not think any license, no matter how obscure or how problematic, is off the table as long as they think it'll make them money.
It is disappointing, to me alone perhaps, because I did genuinely think they were better than that.
How is it “obscure” or “problematic?” Anybody can claim this about any chapter or character in the game. If BHVR only released content that zero people considered “obscure” or “problematic”, we wouldn’t get much new content, would we?
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@Volcz said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3917339#Comment_3917339
Maybe its b/c people have already tried every avenue of counterplay imaginable and its very clear the killer is just overtuned.
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Its zero % surprising you're most likely a player who likes to take advantages of broken killers and act like you're not doing anything wrong. Its much easier for you to defend the killer on the forums rather than actually play the game AGAINST a Kaneki & realize + accept you're completely wrong.
I have played against Kaneki after the changes. I have died sometimes and escaped sometimes. The same thing happens against every other killer in the game. But I’m not going to whine about a killer being “overtuned” every single time I lose to them. Sometimes a killer player is just better than you, or you have crappy teammates, don’t play well in that match, etc. No doubt that Ghoul was overtuned upon release, but he got a lot of nerfs and we need to see how those play out. People need to stop immediately crying for nerfs every single time they lose a match. You’re not going to win them all.
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@DeBecker said:
GitGud.
why don’t you show us all how to “git gud?” Oh, that’s right - you don’t actually play killer. You just prefer to troll people who aren’t afraid to play killer with stuff like this.