HamsterEnjoyer

@dbdthegame said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3491583#Comment_3491583
"I can use different perks but play mostly the same" isn't "different ways to play". Wraith has different builds, Nurse has different builds, Onryo has different builds, even Trapper has different builds.
The only effective way to play SM is defense, whether gens or totems, or both, with occasional straying away to get a hit or eat a resource.

Crazy how people who don't play her will sit up here and tell me how she can and can't be played lol.

There's far more than just perks including her add ons which enable or allow some of these playstyles to work in anyway. Just because the most effective way of playing her is gen defense doesn't mean thats all she can do and the only effective way of playing her is gen defense when she has plenty of add ons which enable a variety of other playstyles that other killers cant utilize but she can.

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@Matukas said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3491599#Comment_3491599
Yep, sorry, you're right! Doesn't really change anything though because you'll still hit 7 stacks by the second down since they're not protected from projection-induced condemn after the first hit. It's functionally the same.

You can just grab a tape and put in the tv thats 2 feet away from the one you grabbed it from and cleanse all your stacks instantly so

in How you feel about Sadako changes? Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3491645#Comment_3491645
That's where Sadako's main skill expression is, map awareness. You shouldn't have to be teleporting to find them, you should have at least some idea of where they are already.
That's not something that's only just true now, by the way, that's the biggest thing to learn for Sadako ever since she was introduced. She is a heavily map awareness dependant killer.

Then whats the point in getting a tape in the first place or even using condemned...if they'll never be condemned or even have it as a risk then why pick up a tape lol

in How you feel about Sadako changes? Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3491600#Comment_3491600
No it doesn't.
Two stacks is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Not to mention that it's unrealistic to go around and hit a survivor every time they pick up a Tape to even get the stacks in the first place.
Before, Tapes would apply Condemnation passively. It was guaranteed slowdown if survivors picked up a Tape. Now, it's only going to hinder survivors if you're nearby to hit them. If they can see you're across the map chasing, hooking etc. then they know that they're safe to pick up a Tape.
Also survivors can deposit their Tapes in any TV. It's so easy to remove Condemnation now that it's laughable.

EXACTLY! All these people who don't even play her trying to chime in on how games as her go its so weird

in The Onryō has been ruined Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3491597#Comment_3491597
Because you don't have to commit to the chase. If they're holding a tape for insurance, and they go pick up another tape that they hold for insurance... you can hit and run them for more Condemned gain and another tape destruction.
Tapes basically have to be used as soon as they're picked up, which means one of two things. Either they're doing it regularly to cleanse a small amount of Condemned, in which case that slowdown builds up, or they wait to do it until the last second, which means that interrupting and ambushing them is strong to the point of it being potentially deadly.

okay but you still have to find them to actually get that hit off and if she doesn't find a specific survivor carrying a tape in 3 teleports then that survivor wins and thats still a payoff. The 'risk' is still EXTREMELY negligible either way and for most won't outweigh the benefits early game esp now that she'll be essentially playing without add ons every game since her add ons effects are...yeah

in How you feel about Sadako changes? Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@Matukas said:
I'm very glad to see that they changed the cooldown on projection (though 10 seconds is still too much) and lowered the cooldowns for TVs (SUPER happy about these durations).
That being said, there's basically no reason to hook now and 2 stacks per hit is ridiculous. I'm just going to slug anyone who has a tape now. Would have much preferred that they listen to the feedback we gave on the PTB instead of incentivizing slugging even more when most of the feedback indicated that moving away from this sort of thing would have been well-received.

When you hit someone carrying a tape the tape is destroyed

in How you feel about Sadako changes? Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@jesterkind said:
Pretty positive. The tapes being destroyed on hit is a really impactful change, imo, it makes holding on to a tape for passive insurance basically a detriment to the survivor now.
Plus, more teleport is great, big fan.

Can I ask how in any way? They get the same stacks they did before if you had committed to the chase now they just get to instantly cleanse it somewhere else quicker than before

in How you feel about Sadako changes? Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

Yup cant forget them gutting hag and making her power the most laughably counterable thing in the game lol. And they're sticking with the concept of "ONLY PLAY KILLERS HOW WE WANT YOU TO PLAY THEM!!!!" by gutting all of her add ons that encouraged any play style beyond basekit lmao no more chase mind games or even condemned pressure just...blindness lol

in The Onryō has been ruined Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490330#Comment_3490330
You have a very strange idea of what a live service game is. BHVR is free to change their game as they see fit. If they weren't, we would still have OG DS, OG MoM and OG Nurse.
If you bought SM to lock people into 3-gens for an hour, then I have no sympathy for you.
If you did not, then I do. It's unlikely her power will remain the same for much longer. Her visuals, sounds, lore and else will all likely stay exactly the same. I suppose I'm wondering why a rework is so upsetting to you if you aren't playing her as a 3-genner.

Because there is plenty of ways to play her in her current kit. She can be chase orientated, stealth orientated, gen defense orientated, anti heal orientated, and more that Ik I've played with but am forgetting. Her rework I'm sorry but we already know what it'll be if they don't just nerf her to hell and call it a day.

They'll remove ALL other playstyles except chase and she'll just be another generic chase killer like freddy when he got his rework. I have always enjoyed killers who have a lot of micro management and even more so killers that do area denial. Atm we have Hag and Trapper for area denial, they've gutted Hag in any rank that's not low since survivors just know to wipe traps away now. And Trapper is so clunky and slow on everything he does you don't feel much enjoyment + his games tend to all play the exact same way of 'go find trap place at pallet/window, repeat'

My other favorite killer to play Onryo, is being gutted tomorrow in favor of the same thing, simplifying her basekit by removing ALL other playstyles in favor for chasing as an M1 killer (Even going as far as to remove her add ons which allow her to mindgame during chase and pull actually skillfull plays). When BHVR says rework they mean simplfy their kit which means make everything very straight forward. SM was a killer who hit the golden trifecta for me in design, power, and effectiveness. I never played her as a 3 gen as my 2 main builds were anti-pallets and anti-heal, both which I'm sure will be completely unviable and non existent post nerf/rework as evident by EVERY other rework they've done.

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@Xendritch said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490329#Comment_3490329
Ftr I'm sympathetic to this because I do actually like SM but hard stonewalling the idea of her being reworked is not the way after what was seen in that vod. This is where those of us that actually like the character need give feedback on how that should possibly be done because the people that don't like her don't really have anything past "just delete this thing you worked on for a year that a bunch of people bought".
I personally think making strobes basekit , making claw traps last 60 seconds, making the drones activate instantly and make the stealth linger for 10 seconds in exchange for scrapping the lock on exposed mechanic would be a good trade and actually make her a more dynamic killer and make her more the stealthy techno-huntress they kinda billed her as and make her a good chase killer.

I think removing lock on makes her drones extremely unthreatening and powerless tbh. Her being an M1 with no chase power just information isn't good enough on its own which is where the problem is. See, this wouldn't even affect me so much had it not been for them gutting Onryo and Hag my other killer mains. Beyond those 3 I have mediocre fun with the rest of the killer roster, I'm much more into the 'set up and plan ahead' style of gameplay rather than "Find survivor and chase rinse and repeat." and beyond SM and Hag we have like no killers that are actual area control killers or killers who reward huge pre planning (Trapper but hes less area control and theres not much micro managing beyond trap count and where they are + him being clunky).

The problem is BHVR won't care about SM player feedback they just wanna appeal the masses so I'm sure they'll just make her drones like attack people or something and call it day because thats the only kind of killer people want in this game unfortunately. Any killer whos slightly broken the mold of 'run around this one object, drop pallet and do it again' is regarded as unfun and needs a rework they even did it to freddy lol I have 0 hope they'll keep her as an area denial/control killer like I adore her being

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@Nazzzak said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490329#Comment_3490329
And the rest of us pay into this game too, and many of us play when we have a bit of spare time to kill in between work or family or friends or schooling or whatever. And we don't want to spend the entire time with you. You're not that special, I'm sorry. If you play SM and enjoy locking people into hour long games then you are simply wasting people's time. I can play 3-4 games in an hour with any other killer. Why would I want to play an hour with SMs like yourself and earn the same amount of bp that I could earn in 10 minutes with any other killer?

Never once while playing as or against SM have I had a game go over the 15 minute mark tbh so lol. Is this all SM players have to go on is assumption, assumption, assumption, assumption, assumption?

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@Hex_Ignored said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490329#Comment_3490329
The following section is taken directly from the End User Licensing Agreement. Basically, it doesn't matter "what you paid for". I marked the relevant part for you because I know it's quite long:
V. Virtual Goods
The Game may, from time to time, feature virtual goods. Virtual goods include but are not limited to virtual items (characters, accessories, items such as “character customization”, power-ups), points, credits, tokens and currency (collectively, “Virtual Goods”) for use in the Game.
You may “earn” Virtual Goods within the Game or we may allow you to “purchase” Virtual Goods with “real money” or virtual currencies. Certain Virtual Goods in the Game may be unavailable if not purchased.
Virtual Goods (such as virtual currency) purchased on other platforms such as Steam®, PlayStation®, or Xbox® will be subject to those platforms’ terms and conditions. Please review those platforms’ terms and conditions for further information before completing your purchase. BHVR does not control how you can pay or how refunds may be issued on those platforms. When you make a payment through a third-party platform, you are agreeing to the third party’s payment terms, and BHVR is not a party to the transaction.
Virtual Goods are licensed to you, not sold. You do not own the Virtual Goods, and you acknowledge and agree that all Virtual Goods represent a limited, personal, nonexclusive, non-transferable, non-assignable and fully revocable license to use the Virtual Goods, for your individual, non-commercial, entertainment purposes only. You have no right, title, interest, or ownership in or to any Virtual Goods. We may terminate your license at any time and at our sole discretion.
BHVR has the absolute right to regulate, discontinue, update, modify or eliminate any Virtual Goods at any time in its sole discretion and BHVR shall have no liability to you or anyone else for these actions.
Virtual Goods have no monetary value, and in no event may you sell, transfer, trade, exchange, give, convert or redeem Virtual Goods for “real” money or other goods or services, including other Virtual Goods, inside or outside the Game except as expressly permitted by this EULA, the BHVR Terms or otherwise permitted in the gameplay.
All purchase of Virtual Goods, whether made with “real money” or virtual currencies, are non-refundable and non-returnable and are not redeemable for any sum of money or monetary value or virtual currency from BHVR at any time.
BHVR reserves the right to modify the price for Virtual Goods that may be “purchased” at any time and the retail price for Virtual Goods does not need to be linear.

Okay? Still doesn't make it morally right at all and they should fully refund anyone who bought this chapter

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 24, 2023

@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490240#Comment_3490240
Where have I said that people who play SM are terrible people?
I'm pretty sure I've gone out of my way to say that you are allowed to enjoy and like Killers. I mained Legion for a long time and people do NOT like playing against him. It's fine that you like SM, but you can't let that enjoyment blind you to the glaring issues she has.
Like I said, I've mained Legion in the past and Knight is one of my favorite Killers in rotation to play. Do I think either of them are good and healthy gameplay design? No. Would I encourage BHVR to make more Killers like them? No. I like to play them, but I acknowledge that they have fundamental issues that cause problems. I don't think either are quite on Skull Merchant's level, but they are issues nonetheless.

I mean considering even under posts where people have been just happy about SM in general you'll always come in with some huge negativity and need to say how much you hate her its so god awfully annoying. Like does EVERY post that mentions her need you to be there to say how much you hate her and think no one should be allowed to play her? When you go out of your way to constantly engage SM players in a negative way and imply they deserve to have their money wasted then yes I do not believe you like SM players in anyway which is fine you do you but don't be vocal about it 24/7

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 23, 2023

@Brokenbones said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490160#Comment_3490160
Most people didn't buy Skull Merchant with money tho tbf lmao
I get your point but it's a live service game and I'm p sure they make it clear somewhere that content can and will be changed whenever they see fit. As long as you still keep the content you paid for it's not illegal as far as I'm aware

But that isn't the content I paid for. I paid for Skull Merchant not whatever the hell they're gonna rework her power into. When shes just another generic chase power killer then that isn't what I paid for.

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 23, 2023

@Sharby said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490225#Comment_3490225
Agree to disagree then ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ , I personally believe the needs of the many outweigh the enjoyment of a few, especially if there's always potential to go back and do more work on her later.
With current trajectories I'm sure something is coming anyways, I don't see her enough for it to really tank my enjoyment of the game so I'll just wait for it.

They literally gutted Sadako and will leave her dead in the water along with twins BHVR has shown they do not care about weak killers and have even stated so recently. Removing her from the game until maybe 1 day in the next 8 years they'll return her to make her viable is ridiculous

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 23, 2023

@squbax said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490240#Comment_3490240
Sorry fam, I disagree with Pulsar on many things, however in this reply you not only contradict you logic but also plain out lie.
you say that doing a change to something people bought is bad and false advertisement and use CoH as an example, I bought mikaela exclusively because of how OP CoH was, and when they balanced it, I took it as a normal person that understands that is just normal in a game that has constant balance changes, just because some people like som4ething problematic that is no excuse for keeping something ufun/unbalanced.
Next you say that when CoH was on its prime there waas radio silence, what on earth are you saying!, there were like 5 discussion daily on forums, a lot of youtube content and comments on reddit etc on how problematic it was. even then CoH WAS CHANGED so even if we asume the community had no issue with it (which is false) the devs took measures against it, so there is absolutelly no bias in that regard.

You're intentionally leaving out HUGE chunks of what I said to make your point more appealing.

A. I said "these people" as in the ones complaining about Skull Merchant 3 gens. I've seen not one thread by any of them in the time I've been here complaining about how old COH created hour long games solely because killers couldn't leave the gens to chase 1 person nor could they go snuff the totem

B. Thats a perk not a whole character. I spent $12 on SM not leverage, game afoot, and thwack. Idc about perk balance because everybody can use perks on anyone.

in We need to talk about Skull Merchant Comment by HamsterEnjoyer July 23, 2023

@BlueRose said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3490171#Comment_3490171
Ppl on here like to beat a dead horse when it comes to SM. Honestly, I don't mind ppl asking for a rework bc I too think she needs something but what I do mind is the nerve of asking for a killer to be removed/kill switched when they know a rework would take more than a year to do. Be realistic with your requests, trust me ppl would take you more seriously.
Personally, I don't care some comp team was held in a game for 50min. I honestly hate team eternal. Comp players like them and even Pulsar are all the same in my mind, they are loud and egotistic players who think they are better than anyone else. They think ppl can reach their level of play when reality most ppl can't and won't. A lot of us don't make playing this game a living. Anyway, I'm glad I took a break from dbd. I'm only here to see what ppl are arguing about.

I just hate opening the forums and seeing everyone (especially one person here) saying how everyone who plays this specific killer are terrible people and demanding we have our money wasted simply because they find it 'unfun'. Which I think is funny cause when COH was meta and causing hour long games there was radio silence. I guess hour long games are only okay when the survivors are in control of when it ends not the killer?