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@Maximus7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/510352#Comment_510352
Took too long for me to respond to this, but here I go.
I care because I will never deny I loved this game and I was truly passionate about it. Why else would I waste 1.6k hours on it? I wanted (and still want at times) this game to improve and reach its high potential. But after too many terrible patches, the only way BHVR will ever learn is if everyone else also wises up and leaves the game for literally anything else. Maybe then they'll make actual improvements to the game instead of catering to one side and pushing out mediocre content.
Agreed, that's the only way this game will get better. I just don't see it at this point, it's been 3 years and still most killers aren't viable enough, games still end as fast as light and the game is becoming stale and bland in general. I can still find some emjoyment in the game but the more bad discussions and watered down horror icons the devs bring into the game, the more pissed off I get.
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Huntress: Hatchets now apply deep wounds and do not down injured survivors.
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Remember that spirit was super bad in the ptb and that she's now a top tier killer
Spirit being top tier is debatable.
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If he has any funny builds then I'll agree.
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https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/645/SJYLOMHBRWNM.png Memes make ######### killers funny
Ghostface might become a bigger meme than Clown and Leatherface.
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@Maximus7 said:
You two really just argued over how bad a piece of trash was. Who cares, it's still garbage and needs massive buffs.
Some people still believe that she's good hence why arguments happen. I thought you quit this game anyway?
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The first point on my second arguments list was about corrupt purge.
At least be more specific. 😉
Does clensing get them of the gens? Yes or no answer
She gets a slow down when charging her power, when moving with purge charged and when the vomit ends. THREE SLOW DOWNS!
It's in capitals so can actually read it this time.😑
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@Mc_Harty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/509955#Comment_509955
1) Your first point was complaining about survivors healing. Besides it's not that difficult to find survivors in the first place.
2) No the fountains aren't meant to stall. Unless you think interacting with 1 Fountain for 3 seconds is somehow equivalent to Pig's boxes with a trap that can kill survivors if they don't get it off. They're meant for buffs.
3) I literally just said that about her Hatchets. Plague can still move at 115 compared to Huntress 110 for doing the exact same thing around wall loops. You can just tap you're power as Plague with Corrupt around those loops, and Plague can still handle it better than Huntress since they both slow down while using their power.
4) Freddy is not a better slugger than Plague. The only reason people slug as him is because of aura reading.
My first point was about corrupt purge not healing. ######### are you talking about? exactly it's a crap stall as I just said. Plague gets three slow downs when using her power. Huntress gets one slow down and she will get the hit if she times the wind up correctly. You know because it takes skill...
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@Mc_Harty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/509897#Comment_509897
1) If survivors are healing against you, you have access to Corrupt Purge, one of the best chase tools in the game.
2) So? The fountains aren't meant to stall but to improve your power. It's just that survivors can deny it makes her underwhelming in the first place.
3) No it's not. Corrupt Purge has a AOE effect, requires less precision compared to huntress's hatchets, has less charge time and can be used while moving at %115. The only things Hatchets are superior at is distance and can be completely independent from survivors mistakes.
After all if Corrupt Purge wasn't that bad to deal with, than why aren't more survivors healing in the first place?
4) Plague is very easy to slug with an inbuilt Surveillance on everything the survivors touch. Most competent survivors won't even bother using fountains against you making slug builds effective on her.
So no, I don't think she's one of the worse.
1) Survivors are notified when she has corrupt purge and unlike Myers she isn't right behind someone ready, she's in the middle of no where so the survivors can just hide and waste Plagues time.
2) The fountains get survivors of gens so they are meant to stall, are you gonna tell me jigsaw boxes aren't meant to stall.
3) Survivors don't control when Huntress has hatchets and again the range is better. No Plague moves at 110% movement when purge is charged, it was changed after PTB (for some reason)😑
4) Nurse, Billy, Huntress, Freddy, Myers are all better sluggers than Plague
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@Mc_Harty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/509856#Comment_509856
Ghost Face is #########. Plague being one of the worst is debatable.
What's debatable about Plague being garbage, isn't it obvious how bad she really is. Plagues power is I could have done better with any other killer
1)Vile purge is worse than deep wound because mending doesn't insta heal survivors, that one thing makes deep wound better than Vile purge
2) Stall by clensing-Pig and especially Freddy have a superior stall power
2) Corrupt purge is out classed by Huntress hatchets because of the range and huntress always has hatchets until you run out and simply reload at one of many lockers. By then you should have downed the survivor.
4) Down quickly in deadzones? leatherface and Billy do it quicker
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@MasonMyers69 said:
The fact that ghostface was even put out on a PTB in the state he is proves the developers have no idea what they're doing. There's a plague post named "give plague some love" or along those lines, a dev has responded in there saying plague is getting 4K's at rank 1 is a high tier killer, yet we all know otherwise. The devs do not understand their own game I'm sorry to say.
The devs said that Plague is top tier. If the devs believe that rubbish then why the ######### does no one play her anymore? I've only seen one Plague that was P3 since her release. Yes devs so.......top tier!
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I main Huntress and Hag but I'll have to go with Hag. Hag is the least map dependent killer in the game and her power is better.
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@MasonMyers69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/508226#Comment_508226
I saw that, saying that plague is a high rank killer like what the actual ######### xDD, he got so many downvotes and hate for that. The post had over 2k views, if the devs think plague is high tier, imagine the freddy rework, or anything in the future, all the killers will be a survivors play toy.
They'll likely turn both his dream abilities into add-ons, I'm calling it now.
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@MegMain98 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/507238#Comment_507238
That’s your own opinion. I personally don’t have a problem with Spirit’s sounds as you don’t hear them while playing her.
Every killer has a counter, you can counter Nurse and Billy as well but does that make them any less viable? Just because you have a counter for a killer doesn’t mean you won’t still get sacrificed. They can counter your counter and you’ll be dead. All it takes is one mistake. I run Iron Will and Calm Spirit on my Claudette but I’ve still died multiple times to Spirit and Doctor.
Huntress will never be above Spirit due to the fact that Huntress is extremely slow with no map pressure and breaking LOS counters her. Both have high chase potential but I don’t see an argument for Huntress ever being above Spirit even if maps were reworked
I still find it easier to counter Spirit than Billy or Nurse. Actually a good Huntress can snipe survivors and gain map pressure from it. Yes counterplay is healthy for game but I can also counter your counter with my counter. *COUNTERS INTENSIFY*
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Also Huntress rework because why not:
Lullaby is now map wide
Hatchets now apply deep wounds and cannot be used to down survivors
We have also made all loops high walled because throwing hatchets to counter looping isn't fun for survivors
Hope you all enjoy the new and improved Huntress. ;)
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@MasonMyers69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/507604#Comment_507604
Yeah it'll be "removed nurse's blink"
Made nurse *115* as they always do - rework complete
Rework: you only have one blink and it doesn't go through objects.
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@PoisonN said:
Of course, survivors are the marjority in the community. So yes, I don't think they really care about killers... And it sucks because I'm not a huge fan of Nurse and Billy but I can understand why people only use them against swfs because the rest is inviable and lame (except Spirit... I guess?)
MoM squad against Spirit=Bully time!
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Don't you think it's weird, how in both cases with the ghost face and the plague, that they can't reach their full potential or actually have control of their own power, but is instead in control of the survivors.
At this point I'm surprised they haven't "reworked" Nurse.
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We'll probably get the fat cashier and Costco in the mid chapter patch.
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@Mushwin said:
@Cursed_hatchet i guess i am glad now Hellraiser isn't here lol
Pinhead could be next, you never know. Also theres a another paragraph on this year's road map so we'll see.
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@Mushwin said:
@Cursed_hatchet not all of us wanted it....but we as a community have this expectations and reality thing going on, is why i prefer the non licensed or well a good one-.-
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/017/588/reality.jpg
Agreed, the devs need to stick to original characters. I prefer to see what they come up with instead of getting watered down horror icons. Huntress is my favourite character as you can see from my avatar.
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@FayeZahara said:
i just want 1 horror icon be ruined right now. Not happy ghostface and new pig are just awful comparisons to there franchises. Freddy is looking better but we should have that much care to brand in all licensed killers.
Feel some killers get the treatment of goombas in live action mario movie.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/159/A87DCMPBXI44.jpg
"This is tottally faithful to brand even though didn't research the subject matter. I think my version of killer is what i think they were."
The worry of breaking licensed killers and just aquiring a mask license has me worried. Whats to stop them from a hockey mask licensed content. Also whats to stop them from taking your personal favourite killer and making them bad. Then can have half community not understanding why don't like your favourite killer.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/506929#Comment_506929
Alot of the community aren't even horror fans. The fan boys will accept any crumbs the devs throw at them. Everyone loves to trash F13 but you know what, that game got Jason right, he's powerful, scary and acts how Jason would. I'm happy BHVR won't get their grubby hands on my Jason because if they did, I'd guarantee they would make a worse version of Trapper.
Or they'll just get the hockey mask and make a copy cat Jason and we all know how well F13 part 5 did...
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@Mushwin said:
@Cursed_hatchet This is what happens when we ask for licensed killers we didn't even want anyway...
I wouldn't say that since the community has wanted ghostface for a while. Instead we got a crappy knock off version that has no ties to scream at all and has a useless power.
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@MegMain98 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/507135#Comment_507135
You’re such a huge fan yet you failed to realize how great they did on her concept. Who really cares what sounds she makes when she is easily the #2 killer, they did great on her lore, and her aesthetic and appearance is amazing.
You countered a Spirit. Good for you. I have countered every single killer in the game, but if they are actually a really good killer then there is no countering them. I’m not gonna sit here and say that I’m an amazing survivor because I countered a baby Nurse or I was looping a Leatherface on a map like a Asylum or Strode house. Just because you’re P3 doesn’t mean that you’re good.
If you really think that you’re going to counter a Spirit that has good headphones and uses movement to their advantage then you are sadly mistaken. Yet you sit here with Huntress as your profile picture as if she’s not totally destroyed on every single map that isn’t MacMillan and Autohaven. Every killer has a counter but the counters for Spirit is very limited and there is barely any if she’s really good.
By the way I don’t have to pretend to sound smart when you’re doing all the work for me.
And all that great visual design and lore is ruined by the goofy, annoying WWWWAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!
"Muh you face bad Spirits" is the same tired argument that every Spirit main comes up with when anyone makes any criticism of Spirits viability. From my "experience" Spirit is easy to counter because of the build I run and I know counters to Spirit (which I have already said). Yes I know the problems Huntress has because I main her and Hag (hence my name cursed hatchet). Which is why Spirit is above Huntress on my tier list, for now. If maps are fixed then she will be right above Spirit. Just because I say Spirit isn't top tier doesn't mean I say she's crap. Do you understand? Yes or no answer.
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@MegMain98 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/506255#Comment_506255
Spirit is based on an Onryō, a vengeful Japanese ghost. Her facial expression, movements, and phasing make sense and BHVR did so amazing on her entire chapter. It’s one of their best. If the only thing you can come up with is saying that the sounds she makes is annoying and sound like Walugi and fail the see that they did outstanding on her entire appearance then it is your loss.
If you think you can counter a Spirit then that is false. There is no countering a good Spirit. Even with Iron Will and Spine Chill. You just need good headphones and to use your ears and you’ll always catch survivors. There are many more counters to Huntress than Spirit.
I know what Spirit is, as I'm a big fan Ju-on and other Asian horror (Ringu, the eye, etc). You don't need to pretend to be smart and tell me facts I already know. I've countered many good P3 Spirit at red ranks by just using spine chill and not producing stratch marks. Wow what a concept, so hard right...😒
Also she gets screwed by sound bugs every patch. "tOp TiEr"
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Another horror icon ruined by BHVR. Who's next in line for the chopping block?
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@MegMain98 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/499578#Comment_499578
Even with Spine Chill and Iron Will, Spirit cam track with scratch marks and footsteps. It isn’t impossible. I personally breath a sign of relief when I get a Huntress on any map that isn’t MacMillan and Autohaven because every other map SUCKS for her. If you think Spirit is easy to go against then you’re wrong.
Spirit is the #2 killer after Nurse, doesn’t equal overrated.
By the way, even if Spirit’s sounds are annoying (which they are) you can’t be saying that when the bunny in your profile picture sounds like a man every time she throws a hatchet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Huntress sounds aren't annoying and actual make sense. Anna is huge for woman so her having a lower pitch makes sense. Spirit on the other hand sounds just like Waluigi and takes away from her Asian horror. From my experience spirit is easy to counter (yes this include fully decked red rank Spirits) No need to have a fit because I said Spirit is overrated. Overrated doesn't mean crap, understand?
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1) Nurse
2) Hag
3) Spirit
4) Huntress
5) Pig
6) Legion
7) Plague
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Myers because he's the scariest and best designed killer in the game.
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Prayer beads, what's a prayer bead?
This post was made by spine chill gang
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They are always survivor sided, the randomization is ######### and puts pallets next to L wall T walls next to another long wall with a pallets so everything is safe and survivors can run around willy nilly so unless your nurse you can't do anything.
Tell me about it. I'm getting close to quitting Huntress because every new map they bring completely screws her over. There either too big to cover the map, the map denies sniping or the loops have no way to throw a hatchet over it.
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Since his ability is all about stealth and can be countered easy, the detection perks aka Spine Chill & Premonition will counter him pretty fast and will ruin his power.
Spine chills my favourite perk, bullying ghostface here we come. ;)
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@kornz2dope said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/501868#Comment_501868
Well how about giving some tips to avoid that ??
Ask a Billy main if you want want tips.
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@kornz2dope said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/500121#Comment_500121
I get looped for days with billy even with spirit fury and enduring
Well that's your problem not Billy's.
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Right know if survivors just want to start running from the killer with distance and do gens, there's no way the killer can apply enought pressure unless you are billy or nurse, and even then.
When you destroy everyone in chase but you still get gen rushed-"why are we still here......just to suffer?"
Jokes aside, big maps don't suit a game where most matches end in a few minutes. Especially for Huntress who is slow and lacking map control. That amount of map dependency stops her from being top tier for me. Still very strong but lacking pressure due to ######### map design. Poor Anna, the devs don't care about my lass when designing maps :(
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Que the rank 20's shaking in fear. Soon killers will be in controll *EVIL LAUGH*
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Hillbilly is much better than Spirit, no debate there. Nurse and Hillbilly will always be top two.
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Any veteran player can already tell he's going to be bad. He has no map pressure, no stall and no snowball potential. So he's just a boring M1 killer, bringing nothing new and interesting to the game. To those who say ghost will be better than Myers......NO just.....NO
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My licensed main (Myers) seen every Halloween and I own every Halloween.
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She's so underrated poor thing.... everyone is talking about Legion or Ghostface, you all just watch she will be a force to be reckoned with lol
I wouldn't get your hopes up. We still have Clown who has 36 bugs unique to him and they still haven't been fixed.
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@LordGlint said:
Its funny how she JUST came out and no one gives 2 shits about her, lol.
That's because she's complete garbage.😂
Most disappointing chapter for me
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I'm just wondering because it seems like it takes forever for it to kill the survivor.. But.. to the Saw wiki it clearly States:
You think we'll get an accurate representation of horror icons? This is dbd where you win by cheesy Scooby doo chases and stacking as many second chances as possible.
Scooby doo chapter 13, that's one license made for this game.
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@Kamikaze_Rose said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/497287#Comment_497287
There was no progression on Last Year, it was, as someone said, a bully simulator, and the devs had an exclusivity deal with the Discord Store, so that effectively killed it off, since no one buys games on Discord. It's supposed to be coming to Steam sometime this year, but from what I've heard, the devs have been radio silent for months now.
"Bully simulator" sounds familiar?
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@MegMain98 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/498488#Comment_498488
Agreed on the fact that Huntress has a large skill cap. She has the highest learning curve in the game besides The Nurse. She takes a lot of practice to learn to play her really well.
Spirit had been screwed over by patches with sound bugs and her Father’s Glasses add-on not working, but she isn’t overrated. That would be like saying Nurse is an overrated killer. Spirit is just THAT good that she can easily win. I’m not gonna go into detail but she isn’t overrated. All the praise she gets is for a reason.
She is overrated. All I see from people who claim Spirit is top tier are Spirit games against predictable survivors who don't know how to counter a killer that can't see them. Is it so hard to make fake stratch marks or juke her? Not really. Plus I run spine chill and iron will so I laugh when I get spirit as survivor. You can't compare Spirit to the Nurse, she's in her own godhood that the other killers can only dream of becoming. Also Spirits sounds are stupid and Annoying.
WWWWAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
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Overrated: Spirit
Power revoles around guessing games
Most survivors don't counter her properly
Power has a cool down which heavily punishes Spirit is the survivor guesses right
Gets f******d by bugs every patch
Underrated: Freddy
Best counter to gen rush
Aura reading gives tons of information
Can get a free hit from mindgaming the dream transition
Can pressure multiplayer survivors with multitasking
Biggest perk pool in the game
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@Gardenia said:
@ReikoMori where is Plague "Vommy Mommy"?
In the garbage bin, where she belongs.
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@ReikoMori said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/052/VTTDEB6EGZMC.png
This is my list.
S Tier: High mobility, high pressure, and skill dependent.
A Tier: "High mobility", decent pressure, not as skill dependent, but not brain dead
B Tier: High pressure, decent mobility, Average skill cap
C Tier: Average mobility, Average Pressure, Average Skill cap
D Tier: Low pressure, Average mobility, low skill (Seriously, you're not thinking much here)
F Tier: Decent Mobility, Questionable Pressure, average skill cap
Huntress has "Average skill cap", I don't think were playing the same game. Spirit is not the same tier as Nurse and is the most overrated killer in the game.
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Hello everyone, maybe this will entice you all to try Plague out once more as she is very versatile.
Reasons not to play Plague:
1) Survivors are notified when she has corrupt purge , so survivors can just hide, waste Plagues time and then continue working on gens
Huntress hatchets are superior in chase and can be also used by skilled Huntress players to snipe survivors across the map
2) And Legion is also garbage in chase. He doesn't even have a power anymore.
3) I'll give her praise for her tracking but doctor and Freddy have much better tracking and you have to be pretty stupid to hide in a locker against Plague
4) Pig's and Freddy's stall are better
5) I rarely find the MYC victim at red/purple ranks and again survivors can just hide when Plague has corrupt purge
6) Again Hag's power is superior
7) This relies on Survivors making a big mistake, so we have another example of killers of being reactive and not interactive
In conclusion you could play any of the other killers that Plague is similar to and you'll get better results. Her power sucks, her lore sucks but her athestic is really good though. Most disappointing killer for me.
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I've been messing around with the Plague today, and I noticed some similarities between her power and Freddy's playstyle.
If her stall was good and she had built-in tracking then she would be more like Freddy. Sadly she has non of these,so that puts her in a rubbish low tier spot.Freddy on the other has insane tracking and the best stall in the game.
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Same here, I mostly play skyrim now with a few dbd matches now and then. Games getting stale now, it needs new game modes. Even the Chinese ripoff Identity V has other game modes.