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Really most of these posts are just venting posts
You just played a game where a swf team made you look silly or The killer killed you all within the first 2 minutes.
People get angry and want somewhere to vent, so they come on the forums for a shoulder to cry on.
l mean how many times a day do you see a post about killers being op or the game is survivor sided any instantly survivor mains and killer mains flood in with support for that certain post.
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@MadLordJack said:
Why not?
No, seriously. Why not? The best survivors don't heal, so they're pretty much 1-shot for most of the trial. On top of that, only 2 of the best killers have access to a basekit instadown ability (Oni, Hillbilly) as opposed to all the others, most of which are even better (Nurse, Spirit, Blight, Hag, Huntress, Deathslinger, Freddy, Pyramid Head).
These are all good points and I agree but because survivors don't heal isn't a reason why a killer should have a one shot.
Everyone person plays different killers at different levels
but if a rank 20 billy or LF hit you and a rank 20 nurse hits you, what happens?
Same at rank 1
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@Xbob42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1693946#Comment_1693946
You're contradicting yourself. If you don't get more kills with one-shot killers, then you mean to say it's balanced. If it's balanced, who cares? Your opening statement doesn't address what I said in any fashion.
Thats right my opening statement has nothing to do with what you said and it also never addressed balance people who posted in here did
but non of those answer the actual question
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@Demonl3y said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1693927#Comment_1693927
Uh what? Not everything does have a website with the statistics.
We, the community know it because we played for a really long time, both sides.
Do you have a link to a website that it is unbalanced?
And why should it be unbalanced if they can miss easily and get a big penalty for it?
you are right I don't have a link to website that its unbalanced
because I didn't claim it was either balanced or non balanced, you did by using your opinion and apparently being the appointed speaker for everyone else in the community's opinion.
I asked a simply question
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@Xbob42 said:
Well, you could always show us you streaming these killers and streaming non-one-shot killers to the best of your ability. Let's see if you can get significantly more kills per game or not.
why would I do that? where did I say that you can get more kills with certain killers over other killers?
did you not read the opening statement?
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@Yamaoka said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1693896#Comment_1693896
Also the chainsaw bros have nothing else in their kit unlike most other killers.
Just to name a sample:
Freddy has:
- gen slowdown / gen defense via teleport
- chase power via blood pools or fake pallets
- tracking via blood pools put around the map
- another slowdown via clocks that people run to in order to wake themselves up
- built in Borrowed Time counter via oblivious status effect
- "semi stealth" via oblivious status effect (people often misjudge where or how close you are due to the lullaby)
- built in slowdown via addons
Did I forget something?
You did actually the ability to one shot, I agree all of those tings make freddy strong but he still needs to hit you twice on his base kit
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who is we? and please link the website that has the statistics on balance if you can
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@ToxicMyers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1693901#Comment_1693901
Everyone misses, if you think every killer should have a built in penalty if they are good enough to miss very rarely I'm sorry but that's the minority. Do you know how many videos there are of people spinning bubba and billy? Its hilarious
The difference is if all killers miss then the penalty is the same. compared to all killers hitting there for is an advantage for 2 of them..... why?
there is many vids on youtube of all killers getting spun
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@Boss said:
Because if it's balanced: Why not?
how do you know if its balanced?
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@ToxicMyers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/199408/one-shot-base-kit
Let's see Billy can easily miss, bubba can be easily spun, it's not op its strong but not the strongest out there like nurse or spirit
whats happens if they dont miss? compared to sprit or nurse who dont miss.
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@ToxicMyers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/199408/one-shot-base-kit
Let's see Billy can easily miss, bubba can be easily spun, it's not op its strong but not the strongest out there like nurse or spirit
Fair point but if he doesn't miss you go down, unlike nurse or spirit if they dont miss you continue on.
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I dunno what region you guys play in that camping and tunneling is all of a sudden happening.
here is Asia the survivor methodology is: when the game starts play like you are on death hook.
when you get hooked over here you stay hooked.
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Just because they have ttv in their name doesn’t actually mean they are any good.
lnfact most ttv players l have met are pretty rubbish at the game.
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I have two, l couldn’t split them
Jake - always extremely selfish players
meg - l dunno why but people who main meg always seem to do the dumbest things in game.
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Billy or Leatherface
killers shouldn’t have a base kit one-shot.
lf you earn it by totems or addons that’s fine but the ability to insta down on a base kit is ridiculous.
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I keep hearing about people wanting a join back button.
Surely this would get abused by people intentionally dcing then rejoining at a time where they would have the most advantage .
for those who advocate it, how could it work without being abused? Maybe a timer or something?
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I would have to say playing in Asia
there is two servers one for Korea and the rest for Asia playing against laggy killers is just a nightmare.
rampant hacking, just last game l had a Dwight literally running in the sky doing generators.
lts just a miserable experience.
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@ohheyitsbobcat said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1574830#Comment_1574830
So they'll have to stream something else for a bit until they get a bypass. There are a ton of people that stream this game so I'd hardly say they're losing exposure just because some of the bigger ones can't stream it for a bit, if anything there will be more of an outcry which might get it even more exposure.
There's also only so many big streamers they can target before they all have a bypass and if they keep disabling it then the hackers will keep messing with it when it's re-enabled. Better to just keep it on then deal with this back and forth nonsense.
If they hold their ground the hackers will have to find something else to to keep themselves entertained. Frankly, I think it's the better call to not give in and just help whoever gets effected.
Then the hackers will start hacking regular accounts, so what then give them bypasses as well? Where does it end?
And if l rage quit 15 times and get a 24hr ban then turn around to the devs and say “l was hacked” how do they know l am truthful or not?
The only reason they know legit hacking because it’s streamers getting hacked.
and if l get a bypass what stops me from rage quitting as much as l want from then on.
They need to make it fullproof not just bandaid their way through it.
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@ohheyitsbobcat said:
I hope they keep them and just give him and anyone else effected a bypass from it. When the dc penalties are off you have a lot people just dcing left and right for any silly reason. At least with them on people are more likely to stay and not just leave the match because they dislike half the killers in the game or other random nonsense.
Yeah, some people have legit reasons which is unfortunate but I'd hardly say they're the majority.
You can’t do that
This person doing it is deliberately targeting big streamers of the game.
what happens if their isn’t a dev online when they get banned, they have to stream something else, they lose revenue plus dbd loses exposure, neither side will let that happen
and on the other side of the fence if you allow streamers to get a bypass because they are a streamer, what’s that say to the rest of the community if they get hacked and don’t get a bypass
its a lose lose situation.
expect dc penalties to be removed again.
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This kinda reminds me of the glitch on the harvesters on the farm maps where the killers couldn’t hit a survivor if they were standing on the hay bales.
No matter what you say, some people are going to take advantage of a situation.
Survivors would t-bag a killer on the hay bales and killers are gonna hook stuck survivors, that’s just the way it goes.
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@Reaver_Raziel said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/184380/red-rank-killer-mentality
Tbf unless almost every red rank killer you meet act like that then thats not really close to a fair representation.
This sounds just as silly as when a killer player makes a thread going "Wow I just played vs the sweatiest most disgusting 4man SWF team. I didnt get a single kill. Its impossible to win. 100% survivor sided game. Why are red rank survivors all so sweaty."
Thats not a fair representation either. You meet some sweats but good sports, some that wanna farm, some cool/meme that wanna only have fun and some that wont care whether they win or lose they just wanna complain. You will probably meet many more achetypes, but what you cant say is "I only meet these people". If thats all I ever met I would have left this game a long time ago.
Where in my statement does it say all red rank killers are like this?
there is a question only
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@Khar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1561253#Comment_1561253
So, because he's rank 1 he can't have an opinion of the game's balance? I'm rank 1 in both survivor and killer and I can tell you there are issues with balance that are glaring. And I'm not the only player with that opinion.
I don't have all the details for that Freddy's game. You said 3 survivors died and one got out of the exit gate. My best guess is that he felt robbed of a 4k for doing so well. Perhaps they closed the hatch and the last person was across the map, waiting to open the exit gate as soon the EGC started and they got out. If that's the scenario, I can empathized. I've been there and it was beyond his control. He may have did everything right and got cucked at the end. But yeah, that's just a guess. I got no idea how that match really played out or what points he was trying to make in the end game chat.
I didn’t say he can’t have an opinion but l wonder in all the 4k games he has had in his rank 1 journey, how many of them did he rant about balance in chat
From my experience killers don’t tend to rant about balance when they 4k, just as survivors don’t rant about balance when all 4 of them escape without being hooked.
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@Khar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/184380/red-rank-killer-mentality
Why shouldn't the goal of the killer be to get a 4k? If you play into the red ranks why would you not have the mentality of trying your best to get the most positive outcome?
I have no problem with that, but because you didn’t get a 4K you shouldn’t rant that game is unbalanced
He is rank 1 l am sure he had got many 4K’s to get there, were those games unbalanced?
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@ZerLukas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/184380/red-rank-killer-mentality
Maybe the game wasn't fun for him. And if the door was opened he most likely didn't pip.
And if you were solo you can't guarantee that all 3 others were solo as well. 4 man solos are very rare on purple and red ranks, even rarer that 4 man SWFs.
Also you have to be sweaty to be a red rank killer. It is pretty much impossible to pip with killing less than 3 people and even if you do you might still get a black pip (or even depip but that's unlikely)
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1554898#Comment_1554898
Simple really. If you pip you rank up. If you rank up you will face stronger opponents on average.
It really is the only objective indicator of success in the game. What else is there to care about if you play competitively?
Also killers that don't care about pips and don't sweat usually don't get to red ranks. With the exception of maybe top 5% players who can get there easily.
Once again another reply
had to be swf, no red rank killer could lose to solo’s even though here in Asia apart from Korea we all have to share a server.
because that wouldn’t increase the chances of solos playing together would it
He 3k and got angry about it because he was rank 1 and thought he deserved a 4K because he is rank 1
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@SocialDistomancy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1558813#Comment_1558813
It's fair against 3 and 4 man swf over voip if they'e of the sweaty and not the casual variety.
I agree
Are you trying to counter argue my point?
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l will give you a scenario which leads to an early dc
Playing in Japan against an internet throttled Chinese huntress on dedicated servers with iridescent heads.
lf you honestly believe this is a fair game , please come here and try it
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I don’t know understand
they can do whatever they want it will never change the fact that swf is op because of comms
the game gets harder and harder for solos while nothing changes for swf.
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@MeatBycicle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1554996#Comment_1554996
I'm not saying it was, I just said I doubt it was a full solo game, that is so so so incredibly rare at red ranks. Like so rare I don't think they actually exist.
Alright let’s agree to disagree.
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@MeatBycicle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1554981#Comment_1554981
No, its because the statistics about SWF don't lie. Almost every single game, especially in red ranks will consist of at least 2 SWF. Just because you were solo doesnt mean the rest were.
yeah statistics also say that every now and again a killer gets beaten by 4 very good solo survivors
he 3kd
but once again had to be swf the reason the last dude got out.
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@MeatBycicle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1554911#Comment_1554911
Yeah I doubt it was a fully solo team. I can't even recall the last time I had a full solo game in red rank, let alone any rank.
You doubt?
oh that’s right, there’s another red rank killer mentality, someone got out or l got beat so it had to be a sweaty seal team 6 swf team
it was solos because 3 of us were pc and the other was ps4
see what l mean this is a classic red rank killer excuse.
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@Deadeye said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1554380#Comment_1554380
You wanna tell me that legit DCs are more often than "I got downed first" DCs?
They arnt and never will be
but it won’t stop people from doing it
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Clown isn’t the worst killer in the game
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Get a monitor that can show crosshairs, that what red rank huntress players do
same mechanics l guess
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Care to elaborate or is that all you have?
explain how either side dcing didn’t impact the other sides ability to pip?
take your thick killer goggles off dude and you might actually be able to see.
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@MegHasCuteFeet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1552263#Comment_1552263
considering the killer facecamps, he can make one survivor depip while depipping himself
if the killer tunnels without facecamping, ds guarentees atleast a blackpip for survivors
try harder
Read above l forgot to quote
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We are talking about dcing
not tunneling or camping
stay on topic
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@MegHasCuteFeet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1552175#Comment_1552175
survivors have full control over making you pip or not just by dcing lmao
nice bait
So do killers
nice follow up bait
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New killers l understand l would have camped and tunneled as well.
red rank killers pretty much always proxy camp, they are always in range to get the unhook for a slug
both sides the higher you go the sweatier it gets
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botany is useless for yourself if you don’t run self care, which most people don’t, which is also a counter to sloppy.
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@RakimSockem said:
Honestly I've seen so many killers DC in the past week, it's been kinda hilarious. Get their ankles broken for a gen, DC. Get pallet stunned too many times, DC. Ruin breaks in the first 30 seconds, DC.
I agree
In see so many posts about people dcing against bubba, but I have had 3 bubbas dc today simply because they couldn't hit someone with their long arse chainsaw movementg.
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1544622#Comment_1544622
Wait... do people on PC have control after being hit? Not joking, I thought running into trees/walls after getting hit was the unavoidable norm as a survivor.
Okay fair point !!!!
more than usual then!!!
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@deadbyhitbox said:
PC players will still have people who play full on cross play. You shouldn't punish console either for not wanting to play the game against an opponent who has a clear advantage over them. Do you understand how painful it is to try to play Deathslinger on 10-20FPS against people on 50+? If I get hit by Sloppy Butcher as survivor my game becomes a slideshow. At least with console to console, the other player struggles in the same way I do, evening it out a bit more.
Until something is changed there should be some sort of middle ground for everyone with console to console and regular CP. Console won't have to be at a disadvantage for the time being and PC will still benefit from some players deciding to go with full blown CP.
This is true
l play clown and when l hit console survivors with a bottle and then m1, the low FPS kicks in and they just charge off into a tree or something, without having any control.
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@Lavos99z said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1542020#Comment_1542020
That's all easy enough to play around. The matchmaking just needs to pair people up appropriately and even with SWF it can be okay. I've defeated coordinated SWFs before. Not the problem here. The problem is people making choices to just constantly go after one person and get 32k without actually playing fairly or honestly giving effort. It's stupid. It needs to stop. I don't think addressing a legitimate issue is "crying" at all. After years of this game you'd think more people would focus on this. The fairness of this game is pretty low as it stands.
No chance you are getting 32k if you are camping or tunneling
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Laurie
every Laurie is some cocky run to a pallet flashlight blind type of player
always DS equipped, never help their teammates, can’t juke, then when downed insta dc
l dunno what it is but Laurie attracts that type of player.
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@Veen said:
Breaking news : Console players are doing the objective.
They are
but that’s not the point, my point is why are they reluctant to save even when the killer is not camping, why lower your odds of finishing the objective by letting someone die
unless they are used to perhaps killers camping.
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I have to admit playing clown against console players is pretty bad, you hit them with a bottle the a m1 and you can just see the frames disappearing from their screens as they fly into a tree
the second down comes quickly after that.
fix the optimization then bring in crossplay
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All my games were fun and close, now it’s back to getting red rank genrushed
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It’s the chase
m1 gen simulator is just a snore fest.
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I sympathize with solo q survivors, that can be really rough some games, no sympathy for the seal team 6 swf sweat lords, they are the sole root as to why balance is so hard.
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Clown is really good at 1v1
unfortunately the game is 1v4 and he loses that more times than not