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I'm not ignoring your point but no one mentioned anything about camping with 5-3 gens left. I think he was referring to situations with Survivors rushing the hook or all gens are powered. Me and Fallen Utopia know each other in person and we both agree that camping with 5-3 gens is stupid. But we both also agree that some situations call for it. We only ever camp if one of those 2 situations occurs and never at any other point. Sorry if that wasn't clear before. I'll agree to stop this now.only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
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@Attackfrog said: @only1biggs said: @LightsOut88 said: Just another kick in the killers balls in my opinion. If they keep this crap up no one will even want to play killer soon. Then the survivors can have it how they have always wanted it and just do all the gens and leave without even seeing a killer lol. Fun game lately DEVS...Not! Every change you have made lately has been for the worse if you are a killer. Im getting seriously tired of the favoritism Not jokes? Wow. You know you don't have to camp if you just get better at the game, right? Right @Orion ?
Lol, statements like that are usually said by people who have no clue how to play an effective killer. It's ok, though, you just don't know any better. I, for one, love this change. I no longer get penalized (by ranking up) for effectively guarding the hook.
In fact, they could "penalize" me more if they want! Make it an instant de-pip for engaging in a chase near the hook! Nice try. I 4k 90% of the time with different killers and play to have fun, not sit and "guard a kill" or tunnel. You justify it however you like sweetheart, you're just trash.
As someone with more then 1000 hours in this game I'm starting to question if you're really as good as you say or just some survivor main pretending to be a killer. No offence but no one can play this game while never camping. If all generators are complete and you don't camp the kill then I'm sorry but you're the trash one here.. There's multiple situations where camping is right.. I am against it as much as the survivors are yet I know when it's needed and when it's done at the wrong time. This could be the stupidest thing I've ever read... "No one can play this game while never camping"? WOW. Just so you know, I have never camped and never will. If the game enters a situation where camping would be acceptable, like end game and doors open, then the game is already over in my eyes and I'll take the loss. To say I'm trash because I don't camp is some super dumb backwards thinking there buddy :') If you think what he says if wrong then you are stupid.. So camping after gens are powered is a dumb idea? Camping when people are hook rushing is a dumb idea? Yeah you're definitely not as good as you say if you don't camp in those situations. thanks for the laugh though. :')
Really though camping in those situations is not a "dumb" thing to do it's the smarter options.. your response to his comment is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Especially after he said he also hates camping.. maybe.. I don't know.. think next time? I could say the same for you. How about you learn to read and understand first before replying? I literally quoted the part that I considered stupid, you fvcking idiot LOL
Ah the classic insults trying to deflect how wrong you are.. classic survivor main pretending to play killer.. camping is allowed. Don't like it? Go play something else.. trying to deny that it's the more optimal play at times tells me enough about you.. 4000 hours? Ha! What a joke. My god you are so stupid. You wanna talk? You okay?
You think I'm stupid? You quoted a single part of what he said and ignored everything else he said despite the fact he's right.. Weak point you have here.. also sending insults only makes me laugh at you more so keep going..
I literally quoted his line of, "nobody can play this game without camping", said it was stupid and told him otherwise, because I have never camped and never will. I didn't ignore anything. Do you understand or would you like me to continue condescending to you?
What you are doing is being ignorant. What he meant is to play the most optimally sometimes camping is needed. Can't you understand that? You'd think for someone with 4000 hours you'd show a bit more intelligence then that.. seriously get that through you head will you? He's right and you are wrong. Do you understand now? Or would you like me to keep making the point clearer? All you do is go around the forums insulting people who make good points and hoping that your insults will stop people from talking about things you don't like.. 4000 hours? Maybe in your account but definitely not in your brain.
Okay, this is just ridiculous. I understand that some people need to and want to camp because they think it's optimal. In some situations, such as when the gates are open or people hook rush, then sure, go nuts, but that's not really camping is it? That's just survivors being dumb or the killer wanting to secure a kill. So what?
If you truly think that camping is optimal when 5-3 gens are still up, then you are just not good at the game. That is my opinion. Moreover, you are continually missing the point of the line I quoted. You keep ignoring it even though I have held it up to you twice now. I didn't misunderstand anything. I am not being ignorant. Just agree to disagree and move on, because I certainly am now.
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Honestly I'd rather go against a team with 4 BNPs then a team with much more efficient toolboxes or purple flashlights.
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Maybe you should try running Rancor with this perk? Ignore the obsession all game and then just kill them. Perk is very strong when it stays at a high amount of stacks for awhile. I'm going to make an end game build with this, Rancor and Blood Warden along with an extra perk.
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What you are doing is being ignorant. What he meant is to play the most optimally sometimes camping is needed. Can't you understand that? You'd think for someone with 4000 hours you'd show a bit more intelligence then that.. seriously get that through you head will you? He's right and you are wrong. Do you understand now? Or would you like me to keep making the point clearer? All you do is go around the forums insulting people who make good points and hoping that your insults will stop people from talking about things you don't like.. 4000 hours? Maybe in your account but definitely not in your brain.only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said: only1biggs said:
@The_Fallen_Utopia said: only1biggs said:
@Attackfrog said: @only1biggs said: @LightsOut88 said: Just another kick in the killers balls in my opinion. If they keep this crap up no one will even want to play killer soon. Then the survivors can have it how they have always wanted it and just do all the gens and leave without even seeing a killer lol. Fun game lately DEVS...Not! Every change you have made lately has been for the worse if you are a killer. Im getting seriously tired of the favoritism Not jokes? Wow. You know you don't have to camp if you just get better at the game, right? Right @Orion ?
Lol, statements like that are usually said by people who have no clue how to play an effective killer. It's ok, though, you just don't know any better. I, for one, love this change. I no longer get penalized (by ranking up) for effectively guarding the hook.
In fact, they could "penalize" me more if they want! Make it an instant de-pip for engaging in a chase near the hook! Nice try. I 4k 90% of the time with different killers and play to have fun, not sit and "guard a kill" or tunnel. You justify it however you like sweetheart, you're just trash.
As someone with more then 1000 hours in this game I'm starting to question if you're really as good as you say or just some survivor main pretending to be a killer. No offence but no one can play this game while never camping. If all generators are complete and you don't camp the kill then I'm sorry but you're the trash one here.. There's multiple situations where camping is right.. I am against it as much as the survivors are yet I know when it's needed and when it's done at the wrong time. This could be the stupidest thing I've ever read... "No one can play this game while never camping"? WOW. Just so you know, I have never camped and never will. If the game enters a situation where camping would be acceptable, like end game and doors open, then the game is already over in my eyes and I'll take the loss. To say I'm trash because I don't camp is some super dumb backwards thinking there buddy :') If you think what he says if wrong then you are stupid.. So camping after gens are powered is a dumb idea? Camping when people are hook rushing is a dumb idea? Yeah you're definitely not as good as you say if you don't camp in those situations. thanks for the laugh though. :')
Really though camping in those situations is not a "dumb" thing to do it's the smarter options.. your response to his comment is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Especially after he said he also hates camping.. maybe.. I don't know.. think next time? I could say the same for you. How about you learn to read and understand first before replying? I literally quoted the part that I considered stupid, you fvcking idiot LOL
Ah the classic insults trying to deflect how wrong you are.. classic survivor main pretending to play killer.. camping is allowed. Don't like it? Go play something else.. trying to deny that it's the more optimal play at times tells me enough about you.. 4000 hours? Ha! What a joke.
My god you are so stupid. You wanna talk? You okay?
You think I'm stupid? You quoted a single part of what he said and ignored everything else he said despite the fact he's right.. Weak point you have here.. also sending insults only makes me laugh at you more so keep going..
I literally quoted his line of, "nobody can play this game without camping", said it was stupid and told him otherwise, because I have never camped and never will. I didn't ignore anything. Do you understand or would you like me to continue condescending to you?
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You think I'm stupid? You quoted a single part of what he said and ignored everything else he said despite the fact he's right.. Weak point you have here.. also sending insults only makes me laugh at you more so keep going..only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
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@The_Fallen_Utopia said: only1biggs said:
@Attackfrog said: @only1biggs said: @LightsOut88 said: Just another kick in the killers balls in my opinion. If they keep this crap up no one will even want to play killer soon. Then the survivors can have it how they have always wanted it and just do all the gens and leave without even seeing a killer lol. Fun game lately DEVS...Not! Every change you have made lately has been for the worse if you are a killer. Im getting seriously tired of the favoritism Not jokes? Wow. You know you don't have to camp if you just get better at the game, right? Right @Orion ?
Lol, statements like that are usually said by people who have no clue how to play an effective killer. It's ok, though, you just don't know any better. I, for one, love this change. I no longer get penalized (by ranking up) for effectively guarding the hook.
In fact, they could "penalize" me more if they want! Make it an instant de-pip for engaging in a chase near the hook! Nice try. I 4k 90% of the time with different killers and play to have fun, not sit and "guard a kill" or tunnel. You justify it however you like sweetheart, you're just trash.
As someone with more then 1000 hours in this game I'm starting to question if you're really as good as you say or just some survivor main pretending to be a killer. No offence but no one can play this game while never camping. If all generators are complete and you don't camp the kill then I'm sorry but you're the trash one here.. There's multiple situations where camping is right.. I am against it as much as the survivors are yet I know when it's needed and when it's done at the wrong time. This could be the stupidest thing I've ever read... "No one can play this game while never camping"? WOW. Just so you know, I have never camped and never will. If the game enters a situation where camping would be acceptable, like end game and doors open, then the game is already over in my eyes and I'll take the loss. To say I'm trash because I don't camp is some super dumb backwards thinking there buddy :') If you think what he says if wrong then you are stupid.. So camping after gens are powered is a dumb idea? Camping when people are hook rushing is a dumb idea? Yeah you're definitely not as good as you say if you don't camp in those situations. thanks for the laugh though. :')
Really though camping in those situations is not a "dumb" thing to do it's the smarter options.. your response to his comment is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Especially after he said he also hates camping.. maybe.. I don't know.. think next time?
I could say the same for you. How about you learn to read and understand first before replying?
I literally quoted the part that I considered stupid, you fvcking idiot LOL
Ah the classic insults trying to deflect how wrong you are.. classic survivor main pretending to play killer.. camping is allowed. Don't like it? Go play something else.. trying to deny that it's the more optimal play at times tells me enough about you.. 4000 hours? Ha! What a joke.
My god you are so stupid. You wanna talk? You okay?
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This is a Top tier rework lol. Maybe remove fatigue? We obviously need someone stronger then the Nurse because Pay to Win! lol
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I don't know. I think Granma's Heart can be pretty good when used right. And sometimes I do run Scarred Hand because survivors just don't expect it. It's hilarious sometimes to see them running into it thinking I teleported to it and then running back into me lol.Eninya said:Disfigured Ear is interesting. While it doesn't technically change much, it's incredibly disorienting for people that cannot coordinate over voice with each other. The reason is, it does deafen you to every single audio cue, and this includes the Hag's terror radius AND teleport sound effect. Triggering this, you won't know if she's teleporting, or if you're about to just run right into her around a corner. In either case, it can cause people to panic and perform a 'loud' action and give themselves away. Personally, Hag is probably the rarest killer I face by a huge stretch, and I've only gone against a Disfigured Ear once or twice since I started playing last October/November--just to give you an example.
Granma's Heart, when it's not bugged to exploitable effect, is actually useless (imo). While it's like the new Tinkerer in an addon, I don't feel this innately offers an advantage because Tinkerer is not a perk she synergizes well with. Her ambush mechanic is strong all by itself, and her terror radius doesn't affect this, generally. Even in cases where you're trying to utilize it like Tinkerer, you'll find more reliability and overall synergistic strength to her design with Monitor & Abuse. I see a LOT of people use this addon, but I find it's a complete and total waste of an addon slot for anyone that even remotely has good awareness of their surroundings, and their audio cues.
Hag losing her terror radius and giving it to her clone will cause the same effect to survivors that are seasoned against her, and to those that aren't: people that are vets will watch and wait, and not make any loud noise notifications while they wait to see if she teleports, or is walking towards them; newbies will likely panic either way and run all over the place.
So, yeah. I find all of Hag's other now-buffed addons to be much better than Granma's Heart (other than Scarred Hand, but that can have its uses now).
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Ah the classic insults trying to deflect how wrong you are.. classic survivor main pretending to play killer.. camping is allowed. Don't like it? Go play something else.. trying to deny that it's the more optimal play at times tells me enough about you.. 4000 hours? Ha! What a joke.only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:@The_Fallen_Utopia said:
only1biggs said:
@Attackfrog said: @only1biggs said: @LightsOut88 said: Just another kick in the killers balls in my opinion. If they keep this crap up no one will even want to play killer soon. Then the survivors can have it how they have always wanted it and just do all the gens and leave without even seeing a killer lol. Fun game lately DEVS...Not! Every change you have made lately has been for the worse if you are a killer. Im getting seriously tired of the favoritism Not jokes? Wow. You know you don't have to camp if you just get better at the game, right? Right @Orion ?
Lol, statements like that are usually said by people who have no clue how to play an effective killer. It's ok, though, you just don't know any better. I, for one, love this change. I no longer get penalized (by ranking up) for effectively guarding the hook.
In fact, they could "penalize" me more if they want! Make it an instant de-pip for engaging in a chase near the hook! Nice try. I 4k 90% of the time with different killers and play to have fun, not sit and "guard a kill" or tunnel. You justify it however you like sweetheart, you're just trash.
As someone with more then 1000 hours in this game I'm starting to question if you're really as good as you say or just some survivor main pretending to be a killer. No offence but no one can play this game while never camping. If all generators are complete and you don't camp the kill then I'm sorry but you're the trash one here.. There's multiple situations where camping is right.. I am against it as much as the survivors are yet I know when it's needed and when it's done at the wrong time.
This could be the stupidest thing I've ever read...
"No one can play this game while never camping"?
WOW.
Just so you know, I have never camped and never will. If the game enters a situation where camping would be acceptable, like end game and doors open, then the game is already over in my eyes and I'll take the loss.
To say I'm trash because I don't camp is some super dumb backwards thinking there buddy :')
If you think what he says if wrong then you are stupid.. So camping after gens are powered is a dumb idea? Camping when people are hook rushing is a dumb idea? Yeah you're definitely not as good as you say if you don't camp in those situations. thanks for the laugh though. :')
Really though camping in those situations is not a "dumb" thing to do it's the smarter options.. your response to his comment is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Especially after he said he also hates camping.. maybe.. I don't know.. think next time?
I could say the same for you. How about you learn to read and understand first before replying?
I literally quoted the part that I considered stupid, you fvcking idiot LOL
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lol no I'm not saying I play like that. I'm simply saying that I don't blame people who do. I couldn't care less about people who tea bag as they often rage quit or end up dying anyway.brokedownpalace said:
"Somebody crouched, my feelings are hurt 😤😤😤😭😭😭"Blood_Coil_Viper said:
In other words survivors can play in a toxic manner but killers can't? Sounds like some rules are best ignored.brokedownpalace said:
They don't need to prove it because he's openly admitting it.Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Actually they can.. since the devs don't punish tunnelling or anything like that and they can't prove when someone specifically targeted someone or tunnelled them.. if a streamers plays in a toxic manner they deserve to be targeted. Play in a toxic way? Expect "fair" treatment in return..brokedownpalace said:
You're basically admitting to breaking the rules. This is a bannable offense. You cannot target individual players over a series of games because you have a grudge.xxaggieboyxx said:
I Mori angry pug every time I see him because he tbags like a prick. I remember all the toxic people I play with. When I see them again I bring Mori's just for them. I tell them every time don't be toxic and you won't get Mori'd. I never use a Mori unless it's for this or a dailyBlood_Coil_Viper said:While I get what you're saying I don't think this would help much unfortunately. If toxic content creators continue the way they are the game will stay as is. I'm not sure what the devs could do to help with the issue. -
In other words survivors can play in a toxic manner but killers can't? Sounds like some rules are best ignored.brokedownpalace said:
They don't need to prove it because he's openly admitting it.Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Actually they can.. since the devs don't punish tunnelling or anything like that and they can't prove when someone specifically targeted someone or tunnelled them.. if a streamers plays in a toxic manner they deserve to be targeted. Play in a toxic way? Expect "fair" treatment in return..brokedownpalace said:
You're basically admitting to breaking the rules. This is a bannable offense. You cannot target individual players over a series of games because you have a grudge.xxaggieboyxx said:
I Mori angry pug every time I see him because he tbags like a prick. I remember all the toxic people I play with. When I see them again I bring Mori's just for them. I tell them every time don't be toxic and you won't get Mori'd. I never use a Mori unless it's for this or a dailyBlood_Coil_Viper said:While I get what you're saying I don't think this would help much unfortunately. If toxic content creators continue the way they are the game will stay as is. I'm not sure what the devs could do to help with the issue. -
If you think what he says if wrong then you are stupid.. So camping after gens are powered is a dumb idea? Camping when people are hook rushing is a dumb idea? Yeah you're definitely not as good as you say if you don't camp in those situations. thanks for the laugh though. :')only1biggs said:@The_Fallen_Utopia said:
only1biggs said:@Attackfrog said:
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Just another kick in the killers balls in my opinion. If they keep this crap up no one will even want to play killer soon. Then the survivors can have it how they have always wanted it and just do all the gens and leave without even seeing a killer lol. Fun game lately DEVS...Not! Every change you have made lately has been for the worse if you are a killer. Im getting seriously tired of the favoritism
Not jokes? Wow.
You know you don't have to camp if you just get better at the game, right?
Right @Orion ?
Lol, statements like that are usually said by people who have no clue how to play an effective killer. It's ok, though, you just don't know any better. I, for one, love this change. I no longer get penalized (by ranking up) for effectively guarding the hook.
In fact, they could "penalize" me more if they want! Make it an instant de-pip for engaging in a chase near the hook!
Nice try. I 4k 90% of the time with different killers and play to have fun, not sit and "guard a kill" or tunnel. You justify it however you like sweetheart, you're just trash.
As someone with more then 1000 hours in this game I'm starting to question if you're really as good as you say or just some survivor main pretending to be a killer. No offence but no one can play this game while never camping. If all generators are complete and you don't camp the kill then I'm sorry but you're the trash one here.. There's multiple situations where camping is right.. I am against it as much as the survivors are yet I know when it's needed and when it's done at the wrong time.
This could be the stupidest thing I've ever read...
"No one can play this game while never camping"?
WOW.
Just so you know, I have never camped and never will. If the game enters a situation where camping would be acceptable, like end game and doors open, then the game is already over in my eyes and I'll take the loss.
To say I'm trash because I don't camp is some super dumb backwards thinking there buddy :')
Really though camping in those situations is not a "dumb" thing to do it's the smarter options.. your response to his comment is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Especially after he said he also hates camping.. maybe.. I don't know.. think next time? -
Biggest unfair advantage in the game? Not if you use your eyes.. there's many add ons that are more powerful then this.
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They mentioned before they want Freddy to get stronger the more people are asleep. So what I would like is for those effects to be strong enough that people actually fear getting put into the dream world. This and stopping Self Care from waking up survivors.
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This would probably be alot more balenced but the devs will probably say "Results weren't satisfying"mcNuggets said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Thetruth said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Thetruth said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: Thetruth said:
@mcNuggets said: @Thetruth said: @mcNuggets said: DS is not fine at all. You can loop for minutes and then [BAD WORD] the killer over because you have a perk. DS is fine if your getting owned like that you should give up and find a new target
Why should a KILLER find a new target, because a survivor owns a perk?
Pathetic arguments, you are just some salty survivor main complaining about balancing the game to be playable as killer player because your ego wouln't accept that your bad. Sounds like you get owned daily in this game. get better. and lol at survivor main. Only reason I even played was cause it was given free. btw DS is fine L2P
New player says DS is fine lol! Getting "owned" by Decisive is nothing the killer can help you know.. maybe try playing killer at high rank before making silly assumptions? Maybe as you said.. Learn to play? Nah DS is fine. It can be countered. People need to gitgud
You just said NOED is for trash killers in another thread.. your survivor bias is showing kid.. NOED can be countered.. Decisive can't be. Especially at the highest level of play. Which you've clearly never got to.
Yea i have. its still fine
You haven't unless you've been against full SWF groups at rank 1 using the best items they can.. those matches are why Decisive is not ok.. if only 1 person could run it then it's fine but a whole team with it is not.
It would still suck, because as killer you aere robbed a hook you earned.
But I agree it would be better.I would just change Decisive to 45% wiggle bar (obsession) and to 65% (non obsession) and reduce the stun time significantly.
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My favourite Pokemon is Mewtwo because of one of the movies. Mainly because it was the first movie I watched while I was younger.
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Actually they can.. since the devs don't punish tunnelling or anything like that and they can't prove when someone specifically targeted someone or tunnelled them.. if a streamers plays in a toxic manner they deserve to be targeted. Play in a toxic way? Expect "fair" treatment in return..brokedownpalace said:
You're basically admitting to breaking the rules. This is a bannable offense. You cannot target individual players over a series of games because you have a grudge.xxaggieboyxx said:
I Mori angry pug every time I see him because he tbags like a prick. I remember all the toxic people I play with. When I see them again I bring Mori's just for them. I tell them every time don't be toxic and you won't get Mori'd. I never use a Mori unless it's for this or a dailyBlood_Coil_Viper said:While I get what you're saying I don't think this would help much unfortunately. If toxic content creators continue the way they are the game will stay as is. I'm not sure what the devs could do to help with the issue. -
If you think NOED makes a killer trash then I think you're trash for not cleansing the totems.. No perk decides a killer or survivors skill.. even though some are stronger then others you can't call someone trash because of their perks. Like if I see you in a lobby with a flashlight and I bring Franklin's Demise does that make me trash because I used a perk you don't like?Thetruth said:@PinkEricka said:
Killers that use NOED = Admititng you are bad so you have to use a crutch perk.very true. lotta killer trash in this thread
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I think my favourite skin out of the set is the Wraith one. Though I was hoping for a Hag skin I'll be honest.
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A flashlight only ruins a bad Hag player. A good one will focus on placing traps in positions that'll help end a chase very quickly. Hag should be at least in the top 3 because someone who knows how to use her can prove she's very strong. Nurse should definitely be number 1 and Hillbilly should be number 2 or 3. Oh and Huntress is definitely not the worst killer.
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I like to use Sloppy Butcher, Blood Warden, Blood Hound and Monitor and Abuse. Because everyone runs Self Care I use this build to hunt them down very quickly. I injure as many people as I can and then use Sloppy Butcher and Bloodhound to find everyone again.
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You haven't unless you've been against full SWF groups at rank 1 using the best items they can.. those matches are why Decisive is not ok.. if only 1 person could run it then it's fine but a whole team with it is not.Thetruth said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Thetruth said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Thetruth said:
@mcNuggets said: @Thetruth said: @mcNuggets said: DS is not fine at all. You can loop for minutes and then [BAD WORD] the killer over because you have a perk. DS is fine if your getting owned like that you should give up and find a new target
Why should a KILLER find a new target, because a survivor owns a perk?
Pathetic arguments, you are just some salty survivor main complaining about balancing the game to be playable as killer player because your ego wouln't accept that your bad. Sounds like you get owned daily in this game. get better. and lol at survivor main. Only reason I even played was cause it was given free. btw DS is fine L2P
New player says DS is fine lol! Getting "owned" by Decisive is nothing the killer can help you know.. maybe try playing killer at high rank before making silly assumptions? Maybe as you said.. Learn to play?
Nah DS is fine. It can be countered. People need to gitgud
You just said NOED is for trash killers in another thread.. your survivor bias is showing kid.. NOED can be countered.. Decisive can't be. Especially at the highest level of play. Which you've clearly never got to.
Yea i have. its still fine
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Sometimes I like that everyone uses self care.. it helps me pick them off 1 by 1 with some tactics. I usually play as the Hag so they don't get too much time to react sometimes. Usually I find where people commonly run to heal and place traps there. They never expect it lol. Not even high ranks are used to it. Ignore this one.. double comment again..ClogWench said:
Yeah I get 2-3 decisives per game. Usually 4 Sprint Bursts/Lithes/Balanced Landings, and of course always 4 Self Cares. If anything in this game is a crutch it's self care.Blood_Coil_Viper said:
I play at the highest level and yeah almost everyone does use DS and I am not using NOED to win.. I use the much weaker Blood Warden. So I don't see your point here.. there's stronger perks then NOED you know..Thetruth said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Thetruth said:White_Owl said:
The answer is simple: because it has the potential to let bad killers get some kills in the end game despite their obvious inability to do so without that perk.
This is very true. But youll see a lot of the bad trash killer lol mains depend on it with their life
Like alot of trash survivor mains rely on Decisive with their lives?
Cause everyone in a single game uses DS right? Like white owl said it gives trash players the crutch and advantage they need to get kills.
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Sometimes I like that everyone uses self care.. it helps me pick them off 1 by 1 with some tactics. I usually play as the Hag so they don't get too much time to react sometimes. Usually I find where people commonly run to heal and place traps there. They never expect it lol. Not even high ranks are used to it. Though I only use the strategy on Lery's and The Game.ClogWench said:
Yeah I get 2-3 decisives per game. Usually 4 Sprint Bursts/Lithes/Balanced Landings, and of course always 4 Self Cares. If anything in this game is a crutch it's self care.Blood_Coil_Viper said:
I play at the highest level and yeah almost everyone does use DS and I am not using NOED to win.. I use the much weaker Blood Warden. So I don't see your point here.. there's stronger perks then NOED you know..Thetruth said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Thetruth said:White_Owl said:
The answer is simple: because it has the potential to let bad killers get some kills in the end game despite their obvious inability to do so without that perk.
This is very true. But youll see a lot of the bad trash killer lol mains depend on it with their life
Like alot of trash survivor mains rely on Decisive with their lives?
Cause everyone in a single game uses DS right? Like white owl said it gives trash players the crutch and advantage they need to get kills.
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Monstrous Hooks: sounds very powerful with a build I run involving MYC and Mint Rag. Though I highly doubt it would be too powerful. On other killers and builds it should be a fairly balenced perk that combines well with BBQ maybe?
Spies from the shadows: Now this perk sounds interesting.. potentially very powerful if the killer knows how to use it and very weak if they don't. They need to pay attention to the crows without getting too distracted. Good change this is.
Beast of Prey: Hmm.. I don't know about this one personally. I like the idea of the current one for getting rid of the red stain. If it's buffed to a good point then it can be very good but this one? I don't know how much extra lunge distance is worth in a chase.
Overwhelming Presence: I'm having trouble thinking of how strong or weak this is. It has synergy with MYC and Haunted Grounds and a few add ons. Also hinders the broken effect from Deliverance even further. The increased terror radius is nice though and makes builds that need a larger terror radius even stronger then before.
Distressing: A flat number increase instead of a percentage is always better I think. I believe the current one increases it by around that anyway for a standard 32 metre terror radius. As for the points I assume this just means you get 50% more points after a match like half of what BBQ chilli does? If so then that's nice to have. This seems to be a nice QoL change.
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I agree with this but also agree with others that rank rewards would be good. Not everyone likes to challenge themselves. I do enjoy a good challenge but sometimes even I find rank 1 to be a horrible time. Mainly vs full SWF groups. So adding rewards would at least give reason to take the challenge.Lowbei said:the incentive is that rank1 is where the most challenge is and thus where you develop the most skill. -
Nope. Never listen to the survivors and their made up rules. Play however you like and use whatever perks, add ons and offerings you want. NOED is counterable anyway so if they complain then they didn't do a very good job at cleansing those totems..
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If you can't see the balence issues at high ranks you shouldn't talk about balence. Plain and simple.ThisNotIt said:
If you, as a killer, cant win 8 out 10 matches then you're garbage plain and simple. It's so easySovererignKing said:
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Yeah well he covered them now he wasn't aware of that rule before. If you don't like it why bother coming on these threads? People post these for laughs. If you don't want that then just don't respond.ThisNotIt said:
He had the name up which is immature and another poster is doing the same. By doing these kind of threads is just adding to the toxic things that people here complain about.Blood_Coil_Viper said:
they are not exposing anyone now they covered the names.ThisNotIt said:What are the purpose of these threads? To just expose players? to validate yourself? Why clog up the board with these threads -
There's a video on YouTube showing what the skins will look like in game and they do glow.PinkEricka said:Golden particle effects coming out the costumes?
When I was looking at the cosmetics piece by piece they look so dull.
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I play at the highest level and yeah almost everyone does use DS and I am not using NOED to win.. I use the much weaker Blood Warden. So I don't see your point here.. there's stronger perks then NOED you know..Thetruth said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Thetruth said:@White_Owl said:
The answer is simple: because it has the potential to let bad killers get some kills in the end game despite their obvious inability to do so without that perk.
This is very true. But youll see a lot of the bad trash killer lol mains depend on it with their life
Like alot of trash survivor mains rely on Decisive with their lives?
Cause everyone in a single game uses DS right? Like white owl said it gives trash players the crutch and advantage they need to get kills.
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This would be a good start I think. Even if it's only for a few shards I'd still go for rank 1 just because more Shards mean more things from the shrine which can mean more bloodpoints and less of a grind. Sounds like a good reason to rank up to me.powerbats said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
RSB said:they should add rewards, something like this:
* 1000 shards for hitting R10
* 2000 shards for R5
* 3000 shards for R1
OR
* 500000 BPs for R10
* 1500000 BPs for R5
* 2500000 BPs for R1
OR (what would be awesome) they could release seasonal skins available only by reaching ranks. Like:
* seasonal weapon skin for X killer from Y set for reaching R10
* seasonal torso skin for X killer from Y set for R5
* seasonal head skin for Y killer from Y set for R1etc
Seasonal cosmetics sound cool. Though they should probably be awarded by staying at rank 1 for X amount of time so people can't just get there and then derank. Maybe awarding a bonus X% of bloodpoints per match at rank 1 would help too? If a survivor is rank one and uses SWF to play against a low rank killer those points should not be awarded.
This probably a little rich but a good baseline to start from and move to something less rich but also different ways. I do think you should be able to earn extra pips at rank 1 say 5-7 so one game of getting hard camped doesn't put you right back at rank 2.
Perhaps the shards could tie into the ranks like you said but also be increase based upon Devotion level.
Rank 10 - 100 shards
Rank 5 - 250 shards
Rank 1 - 500 shardsSince you don't want to make shards have an inflationary or deflationary issue and be valuable still. Since you also get them for leveling up with Devotion. So say Devotion level 1 increases those gains by 1% and to keep people from simply deranking/ranking to farm you input a cap.
Those rewards are only granted once per season so if you hit 5 then derank to 10, you can't rank back up and get the same ones again.
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Those survivors are just biased tbh. They know full well their stuff is far stronger.. they just get extremely salty from losing because they desperately want wins lol. Funny how childish some of them are.The_Crusader said:Thanks. To be fair these guys weren't too bothered, one seemed angry but he was only typing in Russian so who knows lol
I've had previous games though when they cry about perks or add ons meanwhile 3 of them have D-strike and a few insta-heal med kits. Seriously?
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You just said NOED is for trash killers in another thread.. your survivor bias is showing kid.. NOED can be countered.. Decisive can't be. Especially at the highest level of play. Which you've clearly never got to.Thetruth said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Thetruth said:@mcNuggets said:
@Thetruth said:
@mcNuggets said:
DS is not fine at all.
You can loop for minutes and then [BAD WORD] the killer over because you have a perk.
DS is fine if your getting owned like that you should give up and find a new target
Why should a KILLER find a new target, because a survivor owns a perk?
Pathetic arguments, you are just some salty survivor main complaining about balancing the game to be playable as killer player because your ego wouln't accept that your bad.
Sounds like you get owned daily in this game. get better. and lol at survivor main. Only reason I even played was cause it was given free. btw DS is fine L2P
New player says DS is fine lol! Getting "owned" by Decisive is nothing the killer can help you know.. maybe try playing killer at high rank before making silly assumptions? Maybe as you said.. Learn to play?
Nah DS is fine. It can be countered. People need to gitgud
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Like alot of trash survivor mains rely on Decisive with their lives?Thetruth said:@White_Owl said:
The answer is simple: because it has the potential to let bad killers get some kills in the end game despite their obvious inability to do so without that perk.This is very true. But youll see a lot of the bad trash killer lol mains depend on it with their life
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Agree they need to hurry up with those changes.Tzeentchling9 said:
And yet they had no issues "forgetting" to adjust killer power charge times/add-ons to compensate for the change as promised.Blood_Coil_Viper said:Before it was causing issues where they couldn't make charge time too fast with add ons because Tinkerer would be too much.
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That's just another issue of a game being a 4v1.. there's not enough survivors to fill every killer lobby. It really depends on the time of day sometimes.nemeios said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
nemeios said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
You're not the only one who's reported this issue. That's probably why they haven't replied.
As a programmer I understand that they may be struggling to find the issue, for that reason I gave them 2 months, but I think they had more than enough time to fix our issue.
Alot of people think the issue is to do with the fact that there's more survivor players then there are killer players.. not much the devs can do if that's the case.
My problem is that I can't find survivors to play with, I'm most time playing killer
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While I get what you're saying I don't think this would help much unfortunately. If toxic content creators continue the way they are the game will stay as is. I'm not sure what the devs could do to help with the issue.
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Alot of people think the issue is to do with the fact that there's more survivor players then there are killer players.. not much the devs can do if that's the case.nemeios said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
You're not the only one who's reported this issue. That's probably why they haven't replied.As a programmer I understand that they may be struggling to find the issue, for that reason I gave them 2 months, but I think they had more than enough time to fix our issue.
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You're not the only one who's reported this issue. That's probably why they haven't replied.
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The purpose is for laughs and to show how salty people are. Besides they are not exposing anyone now they covered the names.ThisNotIt said:What are the purpose of these threads? To just expose players? to validate yourself? Why clog up the board with these threads -
I actually like the new one more. Because it causes a few moments where you catch people off guard completely and because it no longer limits the devs ability to make killer powers. Before it was causing issues where they couldn't make charge time too fast with add ons because Tinkerer would be too much.
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I'm someone who only plays killer and I disagree with this. Self Care is good for those who don't want to rely on teammates but it's sometimes more of a hindrance rather then a benefit. And it's getting nerfed next patch with the healing changes. It'll be a very slow heal when compared to using Bond to find another survivor.
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You realize survivors get 16 perks total right?spiritmeiner said:think how it would be implemented by some standard build ruin,dh,bbq,enduring,noed is impossible 5 perk slots if u do 5 slots for killers, then for survivors >_<
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Survivors can call it what they want if I feel like running NOED I'm running NOED.. if Decisive is ok so is NOED
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Sounds fair to me. Last second switches defeat the point of seeing the survivors in the first place. It's almost like an exploit to me.
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How many threads about nerfs come from survivors complaining about the things I mentioned? If you look up anything I mentioned you'll be met with loads of nerf threads.mcNuggets said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
ForsakenLemon said:@mcNuggets said:
@ForsakenLemon said:
As a 50/50 survivor killer main, I can wholeheartedly say that DS is not a problem, it is an annoyance, killers dribble the obsession to the hook, they swing their weapon and camera around to make them miss it. I see DS as the same as dead hard, it just can potentially avoid an attack but you will go down again straight after.
And this goes for the same as perks that survivors complain about, ruin is not hard to deal with, just find the hex or power through the gen, hitting great skill checks becomes easy after a while
Play lower ranks.
DS is a huge problem.
If you downed a player successfully, they shouldn't be able to loop you again after stunning you.
It's important in the early game for the killer to hook survivors in order to win, this is completely taken away by DS.
Well, I did play in low ranks, and guess what, it wasnt a problem, so I got out of low ranks, baby killers always got something to complain about
Least killers don't spam threads about nerfing camping, tunnelling, BBQ, Hillbilly, Nurse, NOED, Doctor, etc.. Yeah your point is very poor here.. the most I see killers complain about is DS. Not much else.
Ily.
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Even as someone who dislikes SWF I don't think this should be added to the game. Alot of killers will just dodge every SWF group they find. A better way to fix this is for the devs to hurry up and balence the game around it. I know it's a slow process balancing the game like that but some progress updates on it would be nice. Haven't heard anything in awhile
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The last thing anyone wants is for this to become a pay to win game. Sorry it's better to just deal with the grind.