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  • @DwarvenTavern said:

    I said I quit after the path Bhvr went down. Like the battle pass (I know it's not called that, but it is a carbon copy of the battle pass.. so..) how things were nerfed to make it seem extremely one sided and with lack of proper communication it seemed like it was made to drive newer players in while shrugging off the older players or even not caring about the killer mains. I actually did quit for awhile too. Until recently. I watched Paulie Ester's video on the update that's coming up and I was curious. I'm just going to say I wish I actually stuck around instead of jumping on the hate band wagon. The toolbox nerf is saddening for Survivors to hear, but it's highly needed since there is no real slowdown anymore. (Yes, this is indeed an arguable statement, but hear me out.) Yet, they added a quality of life change that makes it really nice. Keeping your items after they lose all charges, that's something they really didn't have to do, yet they did and I absolutely love it. I have a bad feeling about Franklin's though.. I'm afraid it'll break the item, but I'm sure the devs know about that. The really nice Plague buff was great, it might get more players to use her now and that will be exciting. Trapper getting some major buffs is great. While it sucks that we can't normally carry more that one, I think it's fair since our traps can no longer break! Also resetting them is amazing, it's saves a bit of time and I love it. The changes to Sabotage is actually incredible. I love the fact that you can more easily predict where a survivor is going to and take care of the hook much faster. That's a fair trade. The hook breaks aren't suppose to last long, just buy enough time for your friend to escape. The perk changes are awesome and I believe it's time to talk about the elephant in the room. Breakable walls. Thank. You. This was incredibly needed, it makes things more challenging, I always found it extremely annoying that a survivor can easily lose a killer by running around a pile of boxes and a shoddily made pallet. This is extremely exciting. Thank you Bhvr and I'm sorry for quickly jumping to conclusions. While there a still a bunch of issues, it's nice to see extremely pleasant changes like these. I always craved for more dynamics for this game and I hope you'll keep delivering.

    Yeah you are right but for trapper its not such big buff.. Those 2 miinoooor changes are great and they should be in base kit like a year ago.. But its very rare that someone sabotage your trap and reseting your trap is great but every time someone is caught or trap is disarmed the trap slightly moves so most of the time you have to pick it up and place it again.. They need to change this as Well and after that it will be fine.. But trapper needs lot more buffs and addon reworks as Well... But its a start🤗

  • Yeah good question hopefully its just a bug and it will be sorted soon ? @Peanits

  • yeah actually those two ITs just answered like 15 questions differently, but to be honest they could literally say.. yes its because dedicated servers.. thats all.. yeah sure they cant say that, devs know it, we know it so why lie ? yes they are bad and yes they hurt the game..


    but for me it was actually education and thanks for making that dev tech stream happen.. so lets summary it problem are dedicated servers and lets hope they will do their best.. honestly please please lets jump to rework maps to be smaller and rework useless killers, maybe create like 1 min early game, or new objective - honestly the get braindead survivors so hard that survivors will complain to any other objective other than m1, even everyone hates just holding m1 while doing generator...


    hopefully new killer will have some secondary objective..


    and yes everyone in theri mother knows that devs are HEAVILY survivor biased, but in this dev stream I didnt feel it.. but please @Peanits - talking about last dev notes with destroying ruin never ever ever released into public so biased dev notes, even for killers or survivors, becausehalf of that rage fire which was on forum was becauuse how brutally biased were wroten, it just hurts this game... :)


    but good job with last dev stream :)

  • thank god !!! finally after years.. that should be from day one honestly.. now rework that he dont need to go for trap through whole game and he will be fine

  • I think more players are intentionally dcing in pc version that loosing connection in mobile version tho... :D

    even I as as killer when survivor dcs in first 30 sec match thinks its just bad and those 3 poor guys just instantly lost... adding ai is a great idea..


    same for training mode where we could try out mindgaming of moonwalking, new ideas for builds, survivors for looping and practicing pallets... actually its really shame that in 2020 theres still no mode here... what do I know right ?

  • @goat10em said:

    Any simple tips or builds you can offer to help out? I play all killers except nurse at rank 1. I know people say clown is the worst killer in the game but man i get owned every single time I try to play as demo. I don't know what I am doing wrong lol. My current build is corrupt intervention, STBFL, PGTW, and BBQ.

    monitor is useless for him due to his stomps and rowr when he hit someone never use it.. whispers ar great on him as on every killer


    sadly our demopls doesnt have any super wombo combo builds or perks.. kinda good on him is stbfl becasue ur shred doesnt count to removing your stacks while you hit obsession, but you nee dto be good at it..

    im all ears is good on him as well due to preparing shred on running survivors


    my personal build is CI, pop, im all ears and bbq.. bbq is actually reaaly good on him becasue if you have portal there you an just instanty port there or into the closest proximity..


    addons : most of his addons are utter garbage - i have no idea what their testers and approvers for killers had in mind when they released him.. Only good and MUST HAVE addons are rat liver, and meows gutts.. another ookish addon is unknown egg.. otherwise all of them even ultra rare are just useless and never ever use them at all

    most stuff like considerably increase this and this adds like 0.value to that atribute so really nice work devs..


    try to use your shred as less as possible.. try to predict survivor and always have prepare shred when they will be running into tight corridor..


    nice mindgame trick is while you are closing to him prepare shred, survivor is looking at you and most of the time they ** up their movement and got slowed. Then stop using shred and use m1..


    so yeah your demo is most of the time totally useless and you really got to know when and how to use his power due to that his power is realy punishable. He definitely need portal rework, total addon rework, make some addons to his base kit and he will be fine

  • @Tactless_Ninja said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1083413#Comment_1083413

    Demogorgon is such a pain. Everyone knows he's coming when you teleport. And breaking pallets with his lunge is so useless. Stun time alone creates a huge gap in a chase.

    Pig I could think of several additions that wouldn't break her. One is faster vaults while crouched. Another is boxes deactivating a RBT but not removing it allowing more mileage out of a single helmet.

    Edit: And Oni's only problem is not seeing where a lunge lands. Otherwise he's good.

    Exactly my words.. And this is happenning every time.. I think a lot of people here soule love to talk these testers.. Dodať they see this? After de s games every killer inde that most of his addons are not bad but utterly useless.. Basically all you need is rat liver and guts its really said... No idea why they are doing it... Same with maps everyone hates big and dark maps and what do they do ? Lets release another one like that

  • @AvisDeene said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1080694#Comment_1080694

    Yea, I know their priorities lie with new Survivors. And I know they’re just going to cover up their bad matchmaking by hiding rankings. That’s why I won’t spend even 1 dollar for Bubba and his perks.

    hmm ok so only vanila perks : thano is must have becasue its so easy o wound them, sloppy is good because most of people are wasting time with healing and its makes nice combo with sloppy, brutal for quicker pallets and gens, nurses calling for hitting survivor with m1 or discordance its really good legion perk .. sorry cant thing about better perks which are good for legion anymore from vanilla perks, but you will have a hard time tho.. dont try to hit everyone its pointless hit 1 or 2 people and then try to down someone, try blocking while in fatigue, and try to cancel frenzy under pallet it will make fatigue animation from 4 to only 2 secs and you can keep or frenzy meter...

  • sorry thats not gonna happen anytime soon.. devs are now focusing for new survivor players, and their new matchmaking idea is gonna be even worse then now so nope..

    If I were you I would wait for sale and get him for 2,5 euro.. yes I have bought almost all chapters on sale.. actually on sale they are worth.. in 2 days there are new perks so lets hope.. so you have only vanilla perks ?

  • @AvisDeene said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1080668#Comment_1080668

    I don’t have BBQ since it’s behind a pay wall and I refuse to spend any more money on this game. Got a good replacement for it?

    I don’t care that he’s bad, I just want to annoy the crap out of them. I feel like it would be more satisfying to annoy them than to just hide in the basement.

    I actually like otz so I’ll be sure to look up his legion plays.

    Now I have to buy Clown with shards and get pop unlocked. Stupid blood point grind.

    one of the essentials for killer is bbq yes you can see people yes it will give really good amount of kill but those double bp.. its just must have :) oh wait hes licensed killer so you cant buy him shards ? sorry I have al ldlcs except oni so no idea.

    hmm about perks it depends which chapters you have tho. sadly good perks are all locked behing paywall sadly..

  • whats the point tho.. new killer will be fun for killers on potb but unfun for survivors.. so they will wait for people to buy him and week after he will be totally nerfed.. right oni ?

  • @AvisDeene said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1080647#Comment_1080647

    I just bought Legion with shards! Do you have any builds you recommend? Any YouTuber I should watch? I don’t care about winning anymore. I want to be AnNoYiNg!

    watch otzdarva .. not so much people are playing legion tho.. hes fun to play but like 2nd worst killer.. fine build is pop, surge, thrilling,bbq.. he doesnt have some detrimental or broken perks on him.. hes just bad sadly

  • yep as a guy who plays mainly killer its just bad.. I love it that it belongs to realy low percent of killer sides maps, but its just boring. Every pallet is pretty much safe so you have to broke it.. there are no mindgames nothing just as people says run, drop, broke and another one..

  • yeah like I would love to to see which people were swf.. yes you can check profiles but it doesnt help sometimes.. and definitely they will never do that that you can see in your lobby which people are in swf,, most of killer would left lobby thats for sure.

  • @Waffleyumboy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1077617#Comment_1077617

    They did it for killers, can't be hard to do for survivors.

    hmm and hopefuly you realize what devs are asking right ? everyone knows they are slows listen to very little of their community, making really weird decisions and contraproductive stuff and each patch they broke more stuff in game so realize to completely change every survivor... holy moly no please not with them in charge

  • well most of killers hates swf and showing who was in swf would cause more toxiciness... so i think thats never gonna happen.. devs are trying to protet swf as much as possible due to they are the most cash cows

  • yep,, good system is in identity v where each survivor or what is it called is unique, but as azt says its too late.. hopefully in few years they will announce dbd 2 with all these changes

  • well this problem here has bilion threads.. basically what is happening is playing survivor is boring as hell holding m1 simulator which in solo if frustrating and in swf is utterly broken.. most people are playing in swf and with their crappy emblem system everyone will be soon rank 1..


    playing killer is utterly frutrating and painful experience in higgher ranks thats why bunch of killer left game, become survivor only or stopped playing, or deranking... thats another reason for matchmaking..


    what they wanna do is hide ranks and add mmr system like in league or other games, but problem is this game is heavy rng with broken loops, maps, mechanics, bunch of killers are bugged, sound issues etc etc etc and some of killers are really good and some are just unplayable like legion, clown buba etc..

    so nope its not gonn be fixed anytime soon and their new system will just make things worse as everyone is saying

  • yeah prestige is literally pointless.. yaaaayyy skin who cares... currently i have every perks and every builds on killer as well on survivor and honestly i have no idea what should I do now.. so im just buying iwth them useless killer perks for rest of the killers which im never gonna use - almost 90 % of perks:D

  • @Almo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1073615#Comment_1073615

    It's not that easy for me to explain. At the moment I can only say that looking at incoming statistics on new Ruin it's not behaving the way you would think if you only read the forums. :) It's possible that there will be a community update on it after we've had time to digest what the incoming data mean.

    yeah yeah sorry but your statistics which are saying that self care is what was it ? most used perk ? give me a break thanks...


    everyone knows DS, BT, DH/SB is survivor combo for years so stop lying thanks..

  • same on pc bro :)

  • corns are iritating but not the worst part.. size of map gen spreadiness and those ######### gungle gyms connected to nother loops, almost every pallet is a safe pallet.. wonder when these maps along with ormond, haddonfield, red forest maps are gonna be reworked.. oh damn those are survior sided maps ok sorry I forgot..

  • oh sorry didnt find it... :)

  • and ofc we cant wait any dev response... not surprised :)

  • @Peanits any idea why we as trappers can't see our traps in close vicinity ? Srsly please could you please suggest a change? 😩

  • Priority right now ? Keep changing game to be in ultra braindead for survivors in hope to get as many new survivor players to get... Its obvious and really disgusting.. And aktuálny this step is really destroying their game...

  • in one of the patch notes was note.. sounds were adjusted or something like that... so I think that there is no bug issue with sounds like you cant hear survivors running etc.. they manually lowered it down... even during chase music survivor footstepes are lowered down.. so pretty nice another stealth nerf..


    yeah yeah they keep saying it a bug but nope its not.. and they cant admit that they did it.. so yeah there you go

  • you realize this will change nothing right ? real problem is swf groups.. playing solo is really easy in swf even dumbest players are piping like crazy.. so yes they are covering ranks becasue of swf, so really nothing will change, only that that really bad solo players and killers will have longer que times and all swf groups as now will have big que times..

    its only for shut people up about bad matchmaking... like im ok with ranking system, but real cancer of this game in balance wise is swf.

  • You realize legion od like second worst killer right?

  • And don't forget people are doing challenges and from this seems like swf group was doing that idiotic protect forever challenge.. Get 4 safe unhooks or 4 protected hits in one trial... Again pretty stupid challenge... Yet again out clever and rank 16 devs thought this is great idea... All what it does is once again forcing people to play differently and literally throwing into the blade to killer

  • True.. Thats why i think created killers are better... And i think more creaturious killers are better than humanoids

  • Nah im good as i said i own ps4 pro and love it.. Had ps4 plus for like year and got rid of it .. But i understand its fine ☺️

  • Ps4 ? Oh bummer and i was excited. I have ps4 but no way to pay for online

  • Just give us finally spider killer like its in identity v... Or something with creating some minions

  • Yeah thano first.. Dying light is really bad.. Even both of these perks together doesnt do much .. For what killer you want to use it ? And as people say combine it with sloppy

  • @LetsPlayTogether said:

    How often will you killer mains open threads with nerf DH thus not being able to give any valid arguments? You guys are hilarious.

    Are you really talking about hex perk on brokem maps and brokem totem spawning? Come on... Its a heex..



    ..

  • Ok otzdarva made i think the best leží on build aby god it really works.. Surge , pop, thrilling tremors and i like bbq or im.all ears,.. And as for addons addon for broken status is really good.. Just don't fun aroundap like idiot and hitting everybody.. Hit one and only if someone is close run to him if not cancel it.. About canceling frenzy what i do.is trying to block survivors with it of the best is cancelling under pallet. Cancel animation is 4 seconds but stun by pallet are only 2... And don't bother with addons for lowering frenzy cd.. I hate devs idiotic addons which coooonsiderablyyy do this and that and actually its like 0.25 sec with purple addon..

  • Im on pc and i have claimed it

  • @Rivyn said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1029866#Comment_1029866

    Seriously? Doesn't that mean they realize how big their maps are, and how imbalanced that makes non movement based killers on them? That comes off as extremely lazy.

    and what do you expect from them.. with their ultra slow pacing of remaking maps it will take them years to rework ever broken map.. oh and no worry hawkins is in their eye definitely first.. you know too much killing there so it needs to be remaked as always..

  • is this top tier list due to cosmetics ? yeah clown pinky elephant is the best cosmetic ever :D

  • @Colton147 said:

    The game is more killer-sided, as kill rates are above 50% on all killers (including the "weaker" killers, such as Clown, Bubba, Legion).

    ffs people like you are plague in this community.. dumb sheep thats all.. im sorry but please use brain.. how can you say that ?

    if you would play this game at all you would know that almost every time people are literally running into hooks.. even devs dreamed idea 2 hooked and 2 escaped is idiotic because it says nothing..

    killer can 4k in match, but his experience is utter painful, stressful and abhorent.. so stop saying crap like that thanks

  • no its crap why ?

    1. ITS HEX !
    2. ITS HEX !
    3. ITS HEX !
    4. its cleaned in first minute anyway due to crap level design
    5. in order to work you need 2 SLOTS from 4.. every this kind of combo is bad perk design

    so no its crap.. yeah its fun to use, but other than that its bad.. new hex as a new perk in new DLC would be interesting, but as rework for bandaid of early game its utter sad..

    and last comment from clever dev, who suggested to let far gens to just ignore and let survivors do them is utter pathetic and stupid..

  • sadly no.. I love this game, but what devs are doing is outrocius.. literally trolling and disrecpecting killers who payed their bills, ignoring so much problems its even beyond..

    and for new players hell freaky no.. such a grindy game with paywalls

    no no no never

  • yeah I love how they mentione 4 survivor perks and only 1 killer perk.. another survivor sided bias.. amazing...

  • enjoy it while last soon it will be reworked :)

  • ok due to big maps and in order to work needs to be gen done cruel limits is trully ######### perk.. I have no idea how anyone from devs or testers could think this is good idea.. yeah on paper sounds great but on broken and such a big maps nope..


    and bamboozle is ok perk, but once again you have ONLY 4 slots as killer, if you are survivor you pretty much dont need anything or equip whatever you want - even if most survivors are using mostly 4 same perks years and devs are still covering their eyes to it its normal now.. yes I know money money money..

    so bamboozle is ok perk, but only for newer players and if you dont have anything better option.. other than that is useless perk as well..

  • @AestheticCharms said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1024776#Comment_1024776

    That's exactly how I'm feeling right now. I played survivor first before I started playing killer and at first new to the game ruin was kind of annoying but got pretty well landing my skill checks. Only one of my buddies complained about ruin but he's a gen tapper anyways.

    Like i get it this game needs to be fun ruin was evil for new survivors i get it and im happy its gone but what is insane is they know killers are brutally frustrated etc and they don't care..

    Yes they are gonna rework toolboxes but. You should first rework toolboxes and then change ruin. And reworking maps will take them years.. And from dev stream as i thought next mal will be hawkins they literally mentioned it and then big maps.. Btw no mention about killers having trouble playing on big maps no.. They just said that players are interacting more and better on smaller maps...

    Even when they mentioned useless perks which are gonna be reworked they mentioned i think 5 surv and 1 killer perk.. Only 1 perk? Cruel limits? Lol...

  • so once again killers needs to learn everything and be ultra sweaty and survivors just dumb potatoes running around and bullying killer great..

  • Nope more cosmetics for survivors that will solve everything.. Oh and keeping making more big and dark maps for new survivors as Well who cares about new killers right?

  • I think the devs are Finally satisfied with gen speed.. ######### this game

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