Alen_Starkly
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Community contest skins will never be sold for auric cells (real money), just iridescent shards, so there is no sales motivation there. Sure, you could argue that each skin will once appear in a rift and might encourage someone to buy the rift just for that skin, but it's just 1 (or 2, survivor and killer) skin in a rift with many skins. In my opinion, it has so little impact on the sales of the rift pass.
If anything, it's the community contests that have the power to bring more variety to the game. I do love that all of the female winners have been from various cultures: 2 black girls (Claudette, Élodie), and 3 Asian girls (Min, Yui and Yun-Jin). Huge kudos to the devs for helping promote these girls through community contests, since popularity in games mostly goes to white girls, I believe. Of course, I do want Kate, Sable, etc. to get community skins too. But those who could best benefit from the contest are Gabriel, Haddie, Jeff, Adam, Jonah, Vittorio, Jane. The survivors that are less popular in general.
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@Langweilig said:
Why would someone want to play male characters?! They are so gigantic and give you a disadvantage by playing them. Everytime I try to hide with my former main yoichi, my head sticks out of the bush while sable is perfectly hidden. As long as they keep making males gigantic and females small I don‘t think males will be any success for behavior. It just doesn‘t feel good to play them. As long as this is like it is I don‘t think anything will change for males.
My hope for the skin contest is a sable with a ghost face like costume.
Because we find them attractive. And because a lot of us a lot of times don't want to hide, but engage in chases. I would rather wear bright clothes and enjoy what I see on screen than go wear full stealth clothes just to be less seen. I see a lot of Aces wear the classic "comp", stealthy fit, but I love styling my Ace with what I find fashionable, and that's almost always bright, colorful clothes.
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Hahaha this made me laugh XD
Yeah, I think Huntress is the most popular killer choice. But the solution probably lies in making other killers more fun. And like I heard from a streamer, the solution to the awful killer queue times in 2v8 would probably be best fixed by making the survivor role more engaging/fun. Like, crafting things, or assembling. Adding something new and different, so it's not just doing gens.
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5 months have passed, and this is STILL not fixed. Why is it taking 5 months to fix this? I don't get it.
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I wish a dev or a community manager would respond finally about this topic. Why couldn't have 1 deep rift outfit been for David? He is an iconic survivor, first announced LGTB original character, and he still does not have a deep rift outfit. This would have been a perfect opportunity for it.
Sable's outfit is gorgeous, but her deep rift variant feels superfluous, since it adds almost no change to it. Devs, please speak about this already. (that is, if any of you even read these posts)
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@jezebelthenun said:
The only male survivor cosmetics people care about are Dweet and Silver Daddy, though I feel like if there were quality cosmetics for males in the first place, this would change. Give me stripper pole Jeff god damn it! Work that dad bod, you bearded stallion!
"Silver Daddy" XD I love that name
I would love more variety and care put into male survivors. Also, I fully support your Jeff endeavors! xD
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LOL this comment made me laugh XD
I understand it from the business point of view. However, as I stated in a comment above, they have an amazing art team who can popularize male survivors with their astonishing art skills. It just takes the courage to do it. Just imagine what this would do for the character diversity and general diversity within DBD. I would love to see it. <3
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@Alen_Starkly said:
I hope they will eventually choose to invest more into diversity. They've proven that their art team can pull off jawdropping gorgeous designs (for any gender), so they can definitely use those skills and direction to liven up the male survivor population.
I was replying to your comment @Hex_Ignored , I don't know why it didn't tag you.
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I hope they will eventually choose to invest more into diversity. They've proven that their art team can pull off jawdropping gorgeous designs (for any gender), so they can definitely use those skills and direction to liven up the male survivor population.
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@Mooks said:
… and then they even have chosen Sable where the Deep Rift recolor seems almost identical to the normal one.. 🙄
Yeah…. I LOVE the Sable rift outfit, I think it's one of the best outfits in the entire game. The deep rift version is not that much different. I mean, I don't mind it, but there is definitely space in it for at least 1 male survivor. ESPECIALLY David, since he doesn't have a single deep rift outfit available…
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@TragicSolitude said:
Fornite went for a low-poly version.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/WAUS15C35DC0/fortniteskins1.png
They also got better-graphics version Lara in actual shorts. Lara's legs are too amazing for DbD players' eyes to handle, I guess.
The outfit from the 2nd picture is what we should have gotten. It is iconic. Iconic. There is one similar in the shop, but it ain't it. I don't know how they chose to miss out on this opporunity. :/
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I will agree that there are some amazing outfits in this rift (Sable top tier, David (for me at least :) ), Trickster, etc.).
However, I am very salty that this is the 2nd rift in a row WITHOUT deep rift outfits for male survivors. Male survivors are my favorite characters in the game and I keep not getting what I want. We shouldn't let this go unnoticed.
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Please BHVR do not put the newest character on top. It messes everything up. I have every survivor's and killer's position memorized, and this breaks everything. Please have mercy on us poor souls 🙏
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Thank you!! <33
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@halcyondays93 said:
As someone who has Jonah at P100, I would also like to know the answer to this.
Forgot to tag you, but we'll be able to get the skin today through Twitch drops :D
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UPDATE: It's FINALLY getting released, as Twitch drops <333
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@ReverseVelocity said:
Why would they tell you? It's forbidden.
hahaha you make a good point there xD
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@HolyDarky said:
My theory: The skin is a recolor of an existing Jonah skin and was introduced with the update that came with Tome 18 because the skin was part of the 18 rift
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeaksDBD/comments/1af0qz5/rift_skins_18_tome_ingame_look/
However, it seems like the cosmetic never made it into the rift which means either the developers forgot it to make it part of the rift or they changed their plans and removed the Jonah skin from the rift but forgot to remove the skin from the update. I think the second one makes more sense and they just forgot to remove this skin from the store.
Hmm…. In case they forgot about it, I'm here to remind them. I love Jonah and have all of his cosmetics (not counting the Twitch shirt, obviously). I really want this outfit, it looks so, sooo good. (in my opinion, at least)
It's been in the store (but unavailable) for many months now, I really want it to be released.
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@halcyondays93 said:
As someone who has Jonah at P100, I would also like to know the answer to this.
Oh, you're a gigachad. I'm always happy to see a Jonah in my lobby (no matter which side I play), but seeing people P 100 him really warms my heart ☺️ (I have him at P 100 too)
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@Skillfulstone said:
Mmm...it's likely either a codename for some part of the game like the option menu or something (many games with similar loadings have some of those for humor purposes) or the name of an (incomplete/unavailable) game mode or event that is already in the game code but doesn't appear yet and was mistakenly left there.
Those are just theories though, game theories.
Haha I like that last line. Thank you for letting me know about this. I wonder if that's the case with DBD too :)
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A couple of times I've made the following suggestion: After 5 minutes of no chase, put killer instinct on all of the remaining survivors, until either a chase starts, or a survivor loses a health state by the killer.
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I am always baffled when people hate going against Skull Merchant but have no problem with Nurse. Like gurl, you can use pallets and windows against a SM, people can even body block for you. Against a Nurse, forget pallets and windows, you have no defense. Dodging a good Nurse's blinks is also close to impossible unless your ping is below 40 and you have a high frame rate. If she misses with 1 blink, there's the 2nd blink crutch. And even if she doesn't quite land the 2nd blink, her green lunge-extending addon makes sure you don't make it alive. Also she's pretty good at bypassing anyone who is trying to body block for you.
Skull Merchant is a saint compared to Nurse, in my opinion.
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The other day I had a Spirit tunnel me. I DS-ed her, and she recovered super fast, because of the event's "enduring killer ability". I don't think that should work on decisive strike.
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This is STILL bugged! Male survivors make no grunt noise when being picked up, while females do.
This has been bugged for 4 months now. May I ask why this still isn't fixed? Why is this taking 4 months to fix? Please fix it. 🙏
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@B0X0R said:
Party totems are crammed full of bp
If I remember correctly, a party totem gives me a little bit above 3k BP, so even if I manage to get like 3 of them, that does not explain 90k at death… unless sometimes they give an insane amount of BP, based on RNG?
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More examples of how blinding the killer gets you insta-hooked:
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@AquaticCitizen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3738839#Comment_3738839
I really don't think they are going to do 4 from each category, that seems like a LOT of work for what are essentially free skins.
I think at most what I would request is that they choose 1 female skin and 1 male skin for the survivor side of the contest. That seems the most reasonable to me.
If 4 of each is too much work, then yeah, I would accept 1 female and 1 male survivor.
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I don't want to just sit here and hope. I am asking BHVR to please include diversity.
Also, I'll propose the same thing I did last year: Could we please have 4 winners for each category? That is, 4 winners for a survivor skin, 4 for a killer skin, 4 for a survivor charm, and 4 for a killer charm? There are 4 rifts in a year, so each rift could feature a contest cosmetic winner. Each rift would contain 1 CC (Community Contest) survivor skin, 1 CC killer skin, 2 CC charms. (maybe even CC banners/badges?)
I think that it would be amazing to have every rift have something from the community.
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Could you PLEASE choose a male survivor as a winner, finally? We have only had female survivor winners so far. You will never ever make money from these skins, since you will be selling them with shards, not auric cells, so the excuse in popularity does not apply here.
Please, choose a male survivor as a winner. It's about time.
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@nodforkiss said:
popular survivors and killers get more cosmetic, unpopular ones get once in while, dunno why everyone expecting devs waste their money on haddie skin, how often do you see a haddie anyway?
I get this issue (the chicken or the egg) of whether a character being unpopular leads to less skins, or does the lack of good skins (or variety) lead to less popularity.
Look at Haddie's skins - like Quizzy mentioned, on release, her green rarity skins weren't in the shop. Her purple rarity one was a set (an amazing skin though, but a set nonetheless). And her base recolors changed basically nothing about her head. (until much later when they added make-up).
New skins since then - one is a set (and many people dislike it, it's a specific taste), and all others have a backpack (which many people hate).
When you read all this, it's easy to see why she was and keeps being an unpopular choice. Zarina was also not popular, but she started receiving many new cosmetics, mix-and-matchable, and with a specific style, that separated her from other girls. She's now much more played. Cosmetics can and do make a difference - if they are done properly and with care.
BHVR definitely has the power to popularize less popular characters. They have players and content creators who give free advice. Otzdarva has given a ton of feedback on so many things in the game - and he's constantly ignored. Lillipie has given advice on cosmetics and hair of black people a lot - and I don't think the devs have taken her feedback. These are both Fog Whisperers btw, and one would think their feedback would be taken into consideration.
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@Cand3labrum said:
Honestly it's really disheartening/annoying to see the same few characters get skins ALL the time while others get *nothing* for months and months and months. And when they do it's linked, or its part of a rift.
Meg went months (from September of 23, the cheerleader outfit) without getting a skin in a collection or the shop. She's only gotten recolors in the rift as of late and she is REALLY popular. I understand Mikaela is popular and no one is saying they shouldn't make skins for her but people play other characters.
And let's be honest, BHVR is going to make money either way. I doubt they pay the artists involved any extra "commission" if a skin does well so what is the point in only releasing skins for a few characters?
Idk why I see a lot of Mikaela enjoyers getting so upset about the idea that BHVR stops giving her skins for a little, especially cause she's been in so many rifts (I think nearly every one since 2024 started) AND she's gotten so. Many. Shop skins on top of that. I get it you want to have cute skins for your main, but so does everyone else
Also, because people often assume on the Internet. I am NOT upset at people who like Mikaela. I don't hate you, or want her removed from the game or whatever. I just want my mains and other people's mains to get love and representation too
I'll just add that Mikaela is probably my 2nd favorite female survivor (after Sable). I get why people love her, there's so much about her that's fun and expressive. And yet, I don't want her to "suck up" all of the cosmetics quota, because guess what - Haddie can get amazing cosmetics. So can Jane. 2 divas that have a great cosmetic potential and a lot of us recognize it.
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@Quizzy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3733797#Comment_3733797
We don't have to accept the decisions made by a company that claims to embrace diversity, yet does the exact opposite for recent poc survivors that have been neglected. I mean, I'm not gonna stop you from buying anything of course. But don't be surprised when ppl voice their opinions about this topic and continue to do so.
Well said. People, remember when David was announced as gay? Guess what happened - he immediately stopped getting cosmetics, and didn't get any for months, until enough of us voiced our dissatisfaction with it.
Haddie also suffered from the cosmetics drought, until our voices became strong enough. Sadly, she's once again neglected, but also almost every cosmetic she's received has a backpack, and many people dislike backpacks. 1 cosmetic is also linked, so no opportunities for mix-and-matching. I like the cosmetics she's gotten, but she needs more. And some cosmetics without a backpack for a change. I've seen several good fan-made concepts for Haddie's cosmetics (including 3D models), and she could slay so hard. She just needs proper cosmetics to be able to do that. She has so much potential to be an ultimate badass and a popular choice among players.
Cosmetics are those that determine that. Why do I say that? Remember Zarina? She used to be rare. But now that she's been getting cosmetics (and unique ones), she's been played much more.
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@vol4r said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3733979#Comment_3733979
Well, why would they pick only less popular characters? This doesn't make any sense either. This is whole different thing.
Because these contests are an opportunity to give less popular characters love, but not miss out on profit, since these skins are never sold with auric cells (not counting the rift that has a lot of stuff in it). A big argument for giving more skins to Mikaela etc. is that they are popular so they will bring in more profit. The contest skins could be less popular characters, because there is no profit excuse for them, and it would be a really nice gesture towards people of color, and all of us fans of those less popular characters. :)
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Yeah, sounds would be cool, too. But also, it would be nice if there was a radial charge-up visual, like with Blast Mine, so you know if you're close to having it activable.
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Another idea I've just come up with is - hold community contest more often, and only pick characters that are less popular as winners. Yun-Jin is not too popular, but she won the last contest with a fan skin, and is is absolutely amazing. Yui's community skin from one of the previous years is also very good and very popular.
BHVR will never sell those skins for real money (auric cells), so there is no excuse to have the most popular characters chosen for the contest.
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@vol4r said:
Behaviour is a company that has employees, who need to get a monthly salary.
They create skins for most played characters, so they can monetize their work the most.
You can't blame them for doing that.Jeff's belly being smaller is a bad thing? I am not offended by it as a plus size person.
Mikaela is loved by the community so why not make skins for her?
I really feel like community just wants to make company's life difficult.
Why don't we just accept decisions of the company on their own playground?
You make good points. However, I love diversity. If they don't want to spend money on making skins for people of color, 'cause they don't think it's profitable for them, then at least let us use mods. I've seen so many good fan designs/models on Twitter, and it's such a big shame to not have them in the game.
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I don't think you are supposed to M1 the turrets. You can use your tail to destroy them (from a distance). M1 only if you are already out of the crawler mode.
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Yeah, the cooldown is long. This perk is fun for the memes, I don't think people would use it for serious builds. Especially since the effeciency of the perk relies exclusively on what you roll with the D20.
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I love Gabe's and Haddie's fits, but where's the rest…?
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I'll actually link this, just to show how absurd things have been:
https://x.com/basicbarbiez/status/1797660147537649919
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@Science_Guy said:
I sympathize with most of these, but having seen some discussions about the Jeff skin, it strikes me as a little bit silly. For one thing, did they even actually change his body in any way? Because it looks like the outfit just covers up the parts of his model that otherwise make him look fatter. And even if they did, it would fit the theme of the skin.
I'm pretty sure that in the Twitter post I saw, the side comparison view of him in the newest outfit had his belly shrunk.
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I love this proposal: "mafia style suits". I think those would be epic and people would love them. I know I certainly would. There is sooooo much that BHVR could do with male cosmetics, but are just not doing it, for some reason.
Some things that come to mind:
- mafia style, like you mentioned
- outfits like chef, waiter
- onesies! it's a shame we still don't have a single full onesie for a male survivor. Dwight has the dinosaur fit, and I love it, but I want full onesies as well, like Zarina's penguin onesie, and Élodie's reindeer onesie.
- firemen and policemen outfits - I can already see how much people would go crazy about these, especially if you include leather pants
- construction workers
- concert / performance outfits (similary to what Yun-Jin got recently, ported from DBD Mobile)
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This is such a sweet suggestion. I would love it if BHVR would consider it. <3
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Btw, this Jonah outfit has been in the game for months, and it says it's "unavailable". I've repeatedly asked for it to be released, and nothing yet… I own every Jonah cosmetic (excluding the Twitch shirt) except for this one. And it looks really, really beautiful, and has a great mix-and-match potential. I just got my Jonah to P 100 yesterday, and I think it would be lovely if BHVR would finally let me buy this Jonah outfit ☺️
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@Seraphor said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3729277#Comment_3729277
Nope, we'd all have to buy up all the outfits for male characters to prove they're worth investing in.
In my opinion, BHVR has much more power to popularize male survivors, than the DBD playerbase has. 3 female survivors deep rift outfits in this rift (0 males). 6 or 7 halloween sweaters a few months ago for female survivors and just 1 for a male one. 6 weeks of Dev Bundles with 0 male survivor skins, and only 1 male killer (Clown). Mind you, killers are not picked based on their gender or size, but their power or ease to play.
Mikaela has already been in 2 Dev Bundles, and now she's in the "Special" weekly sale category, with the same skin that was just present in the Dev Bundle for a whole week. And I'm pretty sure that one piece of that same outfit was in another Dev Bundle a few weeks ago, when they mixed and matched Mikaela's and Claudette's cosmetics.
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@Quizzy said:
Looks like we can add another week where only female characters only get included. Yui and only female killers. So....are they gonna just shun male characters from now on or what?
I am tempted to forgive them just because they released the cutest sweater for Gabriel today. But yeah, all females again. I'm not surprised though. I do like that they added 3 skins in 1 bundle, it's a really cool idea.
Btw, this Mikaela skin was just featured for a week in the Developer's Choice bundle. :')
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@Seraphor said:
It's a positive feedback loop.
- Female characters are popular.
- The most popular characters get more content.
- The characters with the most content increase in popularity.
Yeap. And here I am anyway, waiting for BHVR to become a gigachad and start popularizing less popular characters.
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@Mooks said:
Honestly, an anniversary medkit is just a regular yellow medkit. Or in terms of self-heal, it's just a glorified brown medkit. Same function as normal medkits that appear in bloodwebs. Honestly, who really wants that? We want CAKES. Things we can use during the anniversary event, AND all year long
it’s me, I want items!
I don’t even care that much about BP offerings, those will just result in having to spend more time in the bloodweb, having to buy map addons and stuff that pile up and never get used.
Items at least give something you can use in-game
Thank you for sharing your opinion! I guess I got a bit ahead of myself, and assumed most people just want cakes.
In that case, I wonder if it would able to implement a setting which allows us to choose what (in terms of anniversary stuff) we want in bloodwebs. I would personally choose all cakes, while someone else (like yourself) could choose just items, or mixed. I would love that. 😀
