nurse nerf? why?
ok lets be real yes she still is strong and her add ons can make her old power come back so it seems counter productive... but why nerf her? lets be real even decent nurse wont win every match and you can have counterplay, double back, if she teleports in your face then just change the plan and keep running, ive done that mid match and then the nurse couldnt get me because she was used to catching survs who would only double back. its a 1v1 so you have to realize that if she knows what youre gonna do then do what she doesnt think youll do and when she sees you do that find out how long it takes her to realize and change her style. if she doesnt adjust she is a bad nurse, if she does adjust then you know you have to constantly switch and be unpredictable.
i digress, nurse is fine, because although she is way too strong at the highest level, its not because its easy. she is easy to pick up, but at the end of the day if you dont have great intuition or lets say gamer sense and can switch playstyles at an instant for every survivor, then you cant reach that level. that level is also rare. most people just dont know what to do against nurse at a somewhat higher level, as soon as a nurse can hit blinks and mindgames survivors scramble. she isnt like old spirit where a good headset could make you great. she requires real skill and most people just dont have that skill. nurse could always be tweaked but not nerfed
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Nurse needs a complete rework tbh. No teleportation, she needs something complete different.
I don’t get it. Bhvr is releasing chapters with new innovative killers like the dredge and all people want to play is nurse because she’s peoples favorite OP toy. She needs to get nerfed into the ground or completely overhauled.
Nurse is getting nerfed again?
anyone have a link to the nerf details?
The only “possible” rework that Nurse could get is when she fully clenches her hand to “Blink” she turns completely invisible by going to the spirit world. Survivors hear a TR, but cannot tell exactly how close she is until she is visible. She gets a movement speed buff, and can move freely on any leveled surface. As in through the walls, cars, etc. However, not from one floor, or elevated level, to another. She can’t see any scratch marks, but hears increased sounds in the spirit world. When 1 charge runs out she comes out, is allowed to look around, and turn invisible again but for a shorter time. Basically how cetaceans dive, come up for air, and then dive again. If she misses a blink attack she gets punished like she regularly does.
Rework her add ons for when she’s in the spirit world. Spasmodic Breath gives her the 4.6ms while in the spirit world. Anxious Gasp will make players scream if she moves through them while in the spirit world. Jenner’s Breath is the only power that allows her to “blink” back to where she did the first clench. So if you turned invisible next to a gen, and after looking around you activated the second the second farther away… She can choose to warp back to the original location. Badman makes her completely undetectable while in the spirit world. Kavanaugh is changed to increase how long she can “stay” in the spirit world.
Is she actually getting nerfed are there any details on this?
She isn't getting nerfed as far as i know
I am glad I am fine if addons are changed like range when dh gets changed since it is strong, but I was a bit pessimistic about what exactly a Nurse nerf would entail. Don't know why people just say random stuff without it being confirmed.
Thank god. Id have to quit. No way im about to actually chase survivors
Survivors: God nurses are real and have to be seriously balanced for
Also survivors: Good SWFs are too rare to even consider, we can't touch anything survivor side until solos have a 15% higher escape rate minimum
The answer is obvious: rarely.
The "god-nurses" that many people talk about are probably made up of a few real god-nurses, and other nurses who are good, just good, and who have come across survivors who think they are strong, and who take a beating.
And this forum needs relevant interventions ... although, if it was trolling, it was very well executed, I fell for it, I really thought you were talking seriously!
And if not, people who complain that the ugly nurse is too strong ... we are still waiting for the videos of your games against her, so that we can see how much you are living gods in the art of countering a nurse 😉
Just because some survivors are so "strong" that they would manage to get caught by one of the Nemesis zombies doesn't mean that the Nurse has to fall in line with them.
In the same way: just because one player is VERY OCCASIONALLY a killer, and therefore sucks at killing, doesn't mean that the survivors all have to go 3m/s just to please him.
Watching the first video, there's a very fundamental issue there. Yes, the "counter" is to make distance and to stay out of LoS when she's charging. However, the former is made almost entirely irrelevant by add-ons, and the latter is map-dependent. Both of those are the reason why Midwich is stupidly good for Nurse, for example.
The second video is...strange. The background footage shows a Nurse on Ormond who doesn't appear to be that good. So yes, the counterplay works. Also, he mentions DH as a counter, and... yeah, no.
hhm not super busted... But its still not a killer that requires "skill" took me a day to learn the blinks almost flawlessly and to achieve great results with her she is strong, i like the nerf just like you but bonkers busted is a lil overreacting
but thats the thing she doesnt... I used to main nurse a few months ago... Literally took me 1 day if even that to learn the blinks with almost pinpoint accuracy... Now she isnt super busted but she is fairly strong i lose against some bad nurses as often as i lose against good. (now the 2 most recent nurses were cheaters, and i havent faced some in a long time (they had legacy skins with 200 hours and the steam acocunt was 1 year old this was late 2021) But that she requires some super skills is bullshit pure bullshit. Now sure there are killers who you can jump on and deliver great results with that doesnt need any practice nurse is still one of the harder ones to learn. But its not what youtubers say "blah blah you will have to put down thousands of hours on her"
In reality you need a day to learn the blinks, after a week or so you will be very accurate with the blinks, Then the only thing missing is game sense which you need on most killers anyway. Just knowing the map makes a difference with nurse. I mean if you know the layout you can "teleport" more strategically. Its more of a guessing game yes...
I'd honestly be fine with a Nurse nerf if they give us the ability to cancel her TP if we are holding it
At this stage nurse kind of feels like a compromise from the devs to the killer community. Or they just have no idea what to do with her.
Not true at all. Nurse powers and swf are completely different topics it’s just irrelevant what-about-ism.
Players fail to outplay nurse because she can circumvent a number of the tools players use to outplay other killers. That doesn’t make her uncounterable though.
She’s only OP to the crowd who think there is one way to play the game and just can’t or won’t switch it up.
For anyone who struggles to play against a certain killer they should try playing that killer.
Honestly, unless it's a small tweak to some of her more batty addons, any nerfs to her kit would make her literally unplayable at lower MMRs. She already has the lowest gross kill rate.
What the Nurse needs is a complete, floor to ceiling redesign. She's...almost the worst of both worlds - crazy OP and crazy one dimensional/boring.
Eh...you can't talk about the balance of a killer without talking about SWF. This is why adding SWF to the game and having no systems to account for this matchmaking wise was a bad idea - because you can't balance around solos without making SWFs immortal, and balancing around SWFs makes it overly hard on solos.
Yeah, no one with a clue will take you seriously.
At best, your post a textbook case of Dunning-Kruger.
Give her back her old short swing when she blinks. That's why she was difficult. Giving her a normal lunge when she can go through walls was a stupid idea and should have never been a thing. Giving her add-ons to reduce her fatigue was also stupid since the whole reason she was forced to wait on her blinks to recover was to give time for a survivor to try and get distance. Both should be changed.
No I’m serious, nurse is op. Everyone knows that except nurse mains lol
Only reason why she's so broken is that she's the only character in the game that ignores all the rules and mechanics of the game. Pallets, windows, rare stun means nothing to her since she just blinks through every thing.
Really can't think of any sort of nerf that doesn't end up destroying her kit or a complete rework on her power.
Nurse was design is littered with flaws and her power is also littered with bugs. Her power tends to cause alot of balance problems within the game that even I can say that her power is designed back when dbd didn’t have this many perks, a single killer shouldn’t cause a power problem in perks to the point where some people don’t want Dead Hard nerfed because of Nurse, a killers power should NEVER influence a perk to not be changed
I don't understand why people are comparing SWF with Nurse. Is SWF a killer with a power? Can survivors teleport between walls too and ignore in-game mechanics?
I don't think every killer is suitable (not capable because there is evidence that they can) to face every single swf scenario. However, it depends on many things, like are they running meta perks? Is your hex in a ######### spawn location? The majority of the things that SWF survivors can do, a solo team CAN also. The difference is the reliability factor because you are playing with strangers vs friends who aren't as willing to make specific decisions that are detrimental, like taking hits, bringing perks like BT to semi-counter Camping and Tunneling, not healing while they could be doing a gen... etc etc
Ok how is nurse skilled? i have 4000 hours and 1000 hours on this account... ive played some nurse back in 2017 and 2021 takes 3 games to learn in the blinks... Map knowledge takes you really far she is fairly hard to master but not to pickup and be decent with that just takes map knowledge and knowing her blink timing... yes the addons are are a part of the mastering for an example omega blink took some skills to pinpoint close-midrange
lets be real even decent nurse wont win every match and you can have counterplay
Yes she will.
And how are you going to regulate SWF using DISCORD (cheating) then sir?
Show me a video of you playing against a nurse, please.
Players who don't want DH nerfed because of the nurse are players who don't know how to do anything other than DH when playing against the nurse.
Whereas players who don't have DH in their set are completely capable of giving a nurse a hard time.
This way, players will only have to quietly hold down the "forward" key to put distance permanently and make the nurse go around the whole map.
Note, maybe that's what they want... to be able to bully the nurse like any other killer they are so happy to feel so strong against...
No, she won't.
Or play nurse and prove it to us.
Play more Killer dude. You have tunnel vision from playing only Survivor.
Play Nurse yourself to these higher ranks and then come back here to talk.
How was she nerfed?
True, but killers do same thing...
I wouldn't change Nurse. Let her be broken with insane skill cap. I also wouldn't change SWF, dbd needs players and SWF are good for it.
I love when people talk about her kill rate. The kill rate is not made just from PC players, but from console players too..
...no one thinks like that, they want multiplayer balance, just because you RARELY see nurse doesn't mean she can't be balanced
Uh... people have complained about pig before... and not even afk pig... just pig... because people will complain about everything
Nurse is fine, if they just tuned down some perks on both sides that buy massive amounts of time to make the game more skill based rather than a perks arms race and worked on the gap between swf and solo nurse would be worse off anyway and on top of that it would let them buff the weaker killers and put the game in a better state
Im good against nurse don’t get me wrong. It’s just the majority of people that struggle against her because she’s op. Makes my survivor games miserable.
You can't.
Doesn't mean you can't buff other things to compete.
Time and again has the devs stated that using discord to chat isn’t cheating and people still say it cheating
Jeezus Christ this community is so gawd damn toxic. Y’all even go after those who are the fence. Save your negativity for those who are 100% sure they want nerf nursed. There’s plenty of them in here. Leave me the hell alone.
I totally believe you when you say you are good against her. The problem is that most players are not. And instead of wanting to get better, they come and whine.
And that's laughable...
Pro-Nurse people: She's perfectly fine. It's your own fault!
Anti-Nurse people: She literally either needs to go or be reworked from the ground up.
Me, an almost 4K hour solo-survivor: Perhaps we could just change her attack from basic to special to prevent things like Starstruck/NOED? [gets stabbed by both sides]
If that were true, there would be a system in game for solo queue, too.
They can say all they want because it's blatantly cheating.
The official DBD discord has multiple voice channel literally called "SWF" where you can join to talk with the people you're playing with, just saying
That´s still different than in-game voice chat. Also Steam has a voice comms system embedded you don´t even need Discord.
Nurse is underpowered actually. She should be buffed by removing the blink recharge.
Now that's certainly a take
It’s a correct take.
"That's... An opinion. A valid opinion but an opinion." - Mathieu Cote
Thumbing you up cause I giggled