Survivors only want weak killers in the game
I play wraith and chase at jungle gyms and unmindgameable pallets, I get tbagged and called a trash killer. I play pyramid and never get tbagged but called boring for playing a strong killer. Survivors only want to play follow the leader, anything other then that needs a nerf and counterplay (even though there's plenty).
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If you are getting run for 5 gens it's definitely not the games fault.
I just don't see the point you're making. In a game of cat and mouse the cat is stronger because they can catch the mouse and the opposite isn't true?
What he's saying is that you need to learn when to give up on a really unfavorable chase and look for easier targets. If one guy is running you around for five generators while their teammates get to work gens undisturbed, that's on you, not the game.
If they can't loop you or teabag you at a pallet a Survivor isn't happy.
I mean not all survivors are like that. Most of them are tho. They'll make sure you know when you play a weaker killer once you pull out a strong killer they'll either DC, give up on hook, and they'll let you know at end chat. However once you start playing at red ranks or even purple ranks its a bit harder playing with non meta killers.
He said most survivors want fair, fun and balanced killers. Literally nothing you listed changes the fact that those 3 killers, for survivors, are fair, fun and balanced.
Also, Billy definitely isn't trash. He's still low A tier. Is he more tedious to play now and slightly less fun? Yes. But in terms of strength, nothing has drastically changed.
I absolutely agree with you about his overheat being unnecessary though. I don't see why they decided to put resources into changing a killer that didn't need change.
Oni can 4 slug a team faster than nurse and blight just watch Scott play him
Lol... The pyramid isn't op. Isn't it lovely to get flamed? want to join an other game? :D
I play mainly survivor but i don't get it. Die or not that's the game.
So here it is:
catch me if you can :*
This is quite funny to read. It's that bad I'm certain it's actually bait.
Using your logic I'm going to try and create an argument for the other side. Btw this isn't my actual opinion I'm just doing this for comedic effect while showing some flawed logic.
All killer want is an easy 4k every single game. They want to be able to win every single game without needing to use any brain cells and putting in minimal effort. If they can't tunnel and camp for an easy win they cry for DS nerf. The only challenge they actually have in this game is swf so they want it removed because of how broken talking to my friends is. Imagine also saying the devs are "survivor favoured" when the last 4 maps are massively killer favoured.
Again need to state this is a joke message just to expose bad logic.
Billy is still fine
Blight is great even with the ######### FOV
Oni is pretty damn different from Billy. Blood management, the urgency to get multiple hits as fast as possible, the flick at the end of a charge and the strafing all differentiate him a lot from Billy.
This is so bad it has to be bait lol
so basically, a good killer player make it feel like tere is no counter play to the killer, therefore the killer is boring....
OKAY
This is so bad it has to be bait lol
THANKS! they don't know how annoying they are. They leave their mates at hook and just bugger off. They don't give even fair killers a chance. But a killer should let them go pick the right killer and play the way they want them to.
They could mind teamplay instead! They would be way better.
But if they fail it's allways the killers fault.
I mainly play survivor. But this sucks!
Survivors want killers that are susceptible to looping.
"I love playing against a nurse because it feels so good when you juke a good one, or bully a bad one."
The second part of that sentence is why new killers leave and don't come back.
It's great to be proud when you out-maneuverer or out-think a good opponent. It's utter trash to realise that an opponent isn't at your skill level and bully them.
And where did i claim anything different...?
I don´t know any killer that isn´t fair or fun to play against.
But i wish, we had more killers like Myers. With a kit that can be adapted for different playstyles.
As i said. Oni is Billy with extra steps.
Imagine Billy having to collect gasoline. Thats how i sometimes feel while playing Oni.
As long as Noed, undying, Freddy, Spirit and Corrupt Intervention are not nerfed they will still be like 70%
No he was not fine tbh
Undying was nerfed, Freddy will be nerfed and Corrupt Intervention? Whats wrong with that perk?
It has no downsides or Risks for his reward.
You can only use it for 2 minutes lol
half the people in this post stink of entitlement!
yes there are a vocal group of survivors who want ezy mode bully the killer time, some not most
but there's also a group of killers who think doing gens efficiently is toxic and survivors should just hold w and not escape
everyone likes to win but not everyone wants easy mode, get over it. Someone people are gonna be toxic #########, but not everyone.
Just check his post history. He made a whole thread about corrupt being unfair and op.
Edit: Or boring. Most of his posts show mindless bias.
It's funny how people on this post think I'm saying all survivors are like that when I have not said that once.
The title of your post itself could implie a generalisation over all survivors.
nope, survivors want to play a game, not just know you will go down and there is nothing you can do about it if the killer happens to go for you.
Or it can mean I'm talking about some.
I never said you said all survivors, and I'm addressing the people on the three pages of this post who seem to act like that's the case.
That's why I said "could". But if you are not specific, then you shouldn't be surprised/upset (don't know if you are/don't care, written text is hard to interpret sometimes) when people take it either way.
You said billy was nerfed hard but in reality most good Billy’s can still do really well.
these killers are fun because they add equal challenge and counter play to both sides making a more fun match overall.
While I play killers like deathslinger because I find them fun I’d be lying if I said the survivors were having as much fun as I was.
So why use it? LOL
That is only at least partly true if the whole skill a survivor brings is in chases. But there is more to this game than just running in circles.
This honestly seems like a you problem. You shouldn't be chasing a survivor for 5 gens. If they are that good, you should leave them and go chase someone else.
Is this really what you took from my post? I said that a good deathslinger feels uncounterable. Scott has actually made a pretty good video that goes into detail about this. When you're in a loop with a deathslinger, basically, if you don't get hit by his power it's not that you dodged perfectly, it's mostly that the desthslinger missed. It doesn't feel fulfilling at all.
A good nurse isn't boring, for me at least, because it's remarkable how well they predict. As I said, I find good hags really fun to play. But a good, hell a mediocre freddy or twins are the most boring ######### you can go against, especially when they're running only slowdown (forever Freddy)
Hope I was clear enough this time
Fair point.
Yesterday i missed each and every shot with him. So i guess, those survivors had the time of their live.
I think he needs a rework of his addons. Since the red ones are useless. (Deathslinger)
Could you name survivor perks that have downsides or risks for their reward, please?
Yeah his red are Terrible especially the hellshire iron. You can’t even move your camera to see the auras in your 24m terror radius.
The coin is usable but you have to have god tier aim to consistently get exposes
Survivors would rather have killers that give them a chance to show off their looping skills than having no deciding factor in their chase besides hoping the killer messes up
When playing survivor you feel more accomplished when you outsmart your opponent. When I outsmart a nurse, I do feel good I'm not going to deny that. This game rewards time and effort, in most situations. So if new players don't try, fail and learn, then what's the point of complaining?
Also I doubt I mentioned bullying. As an immersed gamer (name) I don't really enjoy getting found, most of the times. If I'm found, I'll try to stay alive. I don't really understand if you're calling me trash for feeling good when I outsmart a bad nurse, because if that's the case I'm impressed, because I almost never bully any "baby" killer, I just do my job, trying to survive. Should I just, stand still and let them hit me so they can feel good about themselves? We're in a really weird situation right now because the community hasn't really define the word "bullying" in this game, and it's not the only one (camping for example).
So if by "bullying" you mean repeatedly outsmarting and looping a killer of lower rank, then I guess I'm bullying new killers.
If by "bullying" you mean repeatedly annoying the killer by tbagging, following them and flashlight clicking, then I guess I'm the exact opposite of that
BT can be risky against stealth killers or Freddy who can nullify it. Aura perks can be countered by blindness. Healing perks can be countered be mangled or broken. Running DS without unbreakable can cause slugging nullifying the perk. Plagues existence makes healing perks risky
I could go on
Edit: I forgot exhaustion addons
How can BT be risky? You mean a safe unhook can be risky.
You're listing counters. There's a difference between counters and a risk/downside.
Deliverance - the survivor is broken after unhooking themselves. (The risk can be negated with DS, but that requires a second perk.)
For the People - the survivor becomes broken for a while to heal a teammate.
Second Wind - the survivor is broken for a while before automatically healing.
It seems the devs like to use the Broken status as their risk/downside for perks. And yeah, as a downside it's pretty unimpressive.
Edit: Mettle of Man shows the survivor's aura next time he's healed after using the free health state. That's its built-in downside. Of course, the real downside to MoM is that you have to throw the match just to use it the one time.
Edit 2: (Bringing counters into the equation, Corrupt Intervention does have a risk. On anyone other than Trapper or Hag, if the survivors just hide for those 120 seconds, the benefit of Corrupt Intervention is nullified and the killer is left with three perks. Corrupt Intervention also makes hexes more risky because survivors often use that downtime to go hunting for totems.)
A perk having a counter is still technically a risk considering your risking the killer having a counter to your perk.
When i bring a healing build I am running the risk of fighting a plague( however rare they are) who will completely nullify my build and leave me perkless. That’s a pretty big risk
I’m just saying it can backfire if you think it is safe and ghostface comes around the corner in stealth mode to tunnel your friend
What a classic Whatsaboutthis
If you think it is safe, you don't need BT. BT is for going for risky saves to counter campers\tunnelers. It can't backfire because BT is insurance
Also...
BT can be risky against stealth killers or Freddy who can nullify it. Aura perks can be countered by blindness. Healing perks can be countered be mangled or broken. Running DS without unbreakable can cause slugging nullifying the perk. Plagues existence makes healing perks risky
I could go on
Edit: I forgot exhaustion addons
Backfire was the wrong word my bad I meant to say some killers could nullify it’s effect causing a bad play on your part