Console optimization

Is it just me or is the optimization quite bad on console?

Share your thoughts/ experiences fellow console players

Edit: Since threads have been merged here is the original comment from a merged thread so you can freely comment on it too

Console players have been justifiably demanding decent frames for years and nothing has been done. We were promised an optimization two years ago. What came of that? Why is this not a priority? Why are we treated so coldly when we rightfully demand updates on what we were promised a long time ago? 

Most importantly, why should we believe we'll be listened to now? Because someone said that the devs were looking into it? Or that we've been heard? I'm sorry, but those vague answers aren't enough. We need real updates and clear communication.

This post isn't even just about console optimization or the devs not keeping their word. I would like to know why we should believe we've been heard when we've been brushed off for so long.

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  • Last night I was chasing a Bill who I knew had Dead Hard. At one point I dropped so many frames that I thought he used Dead Hard and I swung...only to whiff when he actually used Dead Hard.

  • @ShrimpTwiggs said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588684#Comment_1588684

    Apparently it was merged with this one because the title was unfriendly. I don't think I was being mean, but it's whatever. I'm just kind of irritated by this whole situation.

    They are two different discussions tho. Aren't they?

  • Yeah but I guess the discussions in the threads were similar enough that they thought they could be merged.

  • There’s like 4 different discussions that are now all mashed together under “console optimization”. The genius thing is that now all comments have to basically follow that topic or watch this thread get closed too.


    so instead of just leaving our original self policed thread alone, the mods get heat and throw a bunch of different things into one topic.

  • @ShrimpTwiggs said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588671#Comment_1588671

    That's a shame. I was legitimately curious as to why the console players should believe we've been heard after being ignored for such a long time. I think, at this point, the question is more than fair.

    Better off writing to people at Bloody Disgusting to ask that question. Or whoever wrote about PH butt nerf. They're more likely to get a response than us.

  • @ShrimpTwiggs said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588694#Comment_1588694

    Yeah but I guess the discussions in the threads were similar enough that they thought they could be merged.

    Can you paste your comment from your thread here?

  • I'm asking you all killer, survivor, console , pc , mobile we got to make change. The console frame rate thread was closed when it was real discussion. I think there were maybe a few pages of bumping but was it not justified?

    Console is suffering, playing is getting hard and unbearable. Apparently the mod who closed it said any posts made regarding console frames will be deleted. So are we censoring what we have to say?

    I cant say this is true but the "BHVR READ" thing never showed up on that thread. Sure you can say you talked tot be higher ups but deleting threads that says otherwise. The game was promised to get an optimization pass in 2018. Where is this now 2 years later.

    Devs just come out and say you gave up and are waiting for next generation consoles. Is the only way through to you guys voting with our wallets? Should we stop paying because you neglect the console side.

    Deathslinger loses frames while aiming down sighthow is that possible.

    So what is it devs delete this thread and show how you are censoring the console community or reply and tell us why you have optimized the game.

    Alternatively you can say you cant do it.

  • It was actually merged in already. It's on the first page if you want to read it.

  • @Nobsyde said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588496#Comment_1588496

    yeah, if anything this is the main thing that upsets me.

    Not the fact that Mods/Devs aren't responding.

    Not the fact that they not only closed the thread, but black listed the topic "console framerate" from the forum (don't worry, this topic will get closed/silenced by the end of the day).

    Not the fact that the only dramah inside the thread was caused by their answers or lack thereof.

    But the fact that the thread was astoundingly respectful, overall "in-topic" and exceptionally self-moderated, for example our discouraging the promotion of review bombing that you just mentioned. If the problem was a couple of people "bumping" without real reason the thread (spoiler alert: until the frame rate issue is solved, there always will be a good reason to have the topic in the front page), they could have banned these users.

    Instead they just didn't care about the entirety of the console community and closed a wonderful thread (...and banned the culprits anyway, because at that point why not).

    But I'll be patient. Next tuesday we'll see how far patience can go, though.

    EDIT: I'll make some tests to measure how fps have changed when the new patch comes out, which will be summarised in a video

    If anybody wants to help with the performance tests contact me on discord: Nobsyde#3391

    (I'm specifically looking for Xbox, Xbox X, PS4 Pro and Switch users)

    I will lend a helping hand, I've added you on discord.

  • @OBX said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588694#Comment_1588694

    There’s like 4 different discussions that are now all mashed together under “console optimization”. The genius thing is that now all comments have to basically follow that topic or watch this thread get closed too.

    so instead of just leaving our original self policed thread alone, the mods get heat and throw a bunch of different things into one topic.

    Yeah, great logic isn't it? Our beautiful thread had a few comment not on topic, but having comments from multiple different topics in this thread is okay.

    Still, I'm so glad that all of us console players have found each other here regarding this serious issue (which is ignored by the devs) and I hope we all continue to work together to get this acknowledged. ❤

    Today I played again Clown in the corn. 🌽

    It wasn't beautiful, it was a slide show about toxic Cheryl.

  • About optimization with the new graphics i have not seen or heard a word from the dev's about the issues people had on the ptb regarding fps also no word for low end pc's and console players like is behavior just ignoring the elephant in the room with this upcoming graphic update?

  • This post will either be deleted, merged with the new console optimization post, or set to sink like this post. https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588735#Comment_1588735


    Ideally people would need to not buy the next DLC to make a statement, but that won't happen based on comments on another post. Instead better off writing to media like Bloody Disgusting, IGN, etc. to have them ask for answers about optimization that's more than "we're looking into it." I mean, they quickly asked about PH butt nerf, think this is more important.

  • You guys know what to do, talk about the problems of the FPS on console


    this is a new one, because my other one was being sink.

    my few problems are

    • fps dropping when pallets breaks
    • fps drops when VFX kicks in for bloodlust
    • fps drops when hitting a survivor (or game freezes for like .5 seconds)

    etc etc

    oh and my console ps4 scream like no other when running dbd, on the main menu lulz

  • Times frames drop for survivor:

    When hit with Sloppy Butcher.

    When exposed status goes into effect - NOED, Mikey tier 3, GF mark, Devour Hope, Haunted Grounds, etc.

    If a survivor cleanses totem nearby - dull or lit.

    If a survivor searches a chest nearby.

    When a gen finishes.

    When another survivor is hooked.

    During skill check on gen if another survivor hops on.

    If Hag trap is set off nearby.


    When frames drop it will cause:

    Miss skill checks.

    Stutter during chase that causes survivor to be hit/downed.

    Survivor to miss ability to vault/drop pallet.

    Survivor to stop struggling on hook.

  • @Stinde said:

    As far as silencing console players go, here is a link to this thread that's being sinked so it won't be seen by so many people:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/187610/the-fps-on-console-will-not-go-slient-until-we-get-an-actual-answer

    Even when it gets new comments, it doesn't go to the first page.

    Cencoring is getting strong in this forum.

    This is legit, went to the thread to post a legit comment to see if it would bump back up and it doesnt.

    ######### it

    @MandyTalk what is this? Yall are shutting down our threads and making them not bump back to page one even when its a legit thread with a legit reply.

    What kind of censorship program yall running over here.

    If yall arent planning on doing anything just say it then. That same old we dont got any new info is bull #########.

    Id rather just hear yall say theres nothing our crappy inexperienced tech team can do about the problem and then we'll all stop bitching.

    At this point in time we all know thats what its come down to.

    If you guys wanted to fix it, it would be done. Simply put it wouldnt take 2 years to figure it out. Its just not even being worked on.

  • Yeah I hear you guys on these problems but when I play I don't ever have fps problems except for the bloodlust and noed/sloppy. PS4 normal btw. Hopefully stuff gets fixed for you guys with the problems, it is unacceptable that this has lasted this long.

    P.S. It sucks that I don't get to read anymore of the 30 page thread. You guys were funny.

  • The mods are closing any discussion which mentions poor performance on console, they are actively censoring their own playerbase!

  • Even selecting a different killer in the killer screen takes about 2-3 seconds. Switching survivors loses frames. Sometimes the blood web loses frames and freezes for a few seconds as well. The blight cosmetics on killers makes the game run horrible. I actually bought a few of them but don’t use them because of the bad performance.

  • first stop to buy content

    2nd ask for response

    be it in streams, on the forums, twitter, facebook whatever really


    only ever consider to purchase anything again when they fixed what you ask for.

    still dont buy stuff since nurse was broken.

  • @BillyMain77 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588322#Comment_1588322

    This is legit, went to the thread to post a legit comment to see if it would bump back up and it doesnt.

    ######### it

    @MandyTalk what is this? Yall are shutting down our threads and making them not bump back to page one even when its a legit thread with a legit reply.

    What kind of censorship program yall running over here.

    If yall arent planning on doing anything just say it then. That same old we dont got any new info is bull #########.

    Id rather just hear yall say theres nothing our crappy inexperienced tech team can do about the problem and then we'll all stop bitching.

    At this point in time we all know thats what its come down to.

    If you guys wanted to fix it, it would be done. Simply put it wouldnt take 2 years to figure it out. Its just not even being worked on.

    I would be grateful if they held their hands up and said console optimization is not happening, rather than blatantly ignoring us.

  • @Endstille said:

    first stop to buy content

    2nd ask for response

    be it in streams, on the forums, twitter, facebook whatever really

    only ever consider to purchase anything again when they fixed what you ask for.

    still dont buy stuff since nurse was broken.

    Sounds good paying with our wallets is the only way I suppose.

  • I was going to say this on the main thread but it was closed before I could write it: from what I've gathered, most of the frame drops that aren't map specific happen when you get the little icon on the right for bloodlust, undetectable and perk related (ie hexes), if anyone has more information, please add it to this

  • I hope things don’t get worse with these new graphics.

  • @BillyMain77 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588322#Comment_1588322

    This is legit, went to the thread to post a legit comment to see if it would bump back up and it doesnt.

    ######### it

    @MandyTalk what is this? Yall are shutting down our threads and making them not bump back to page one even when its a legit thread with a legit reply.

    What kind of censorship program yall running over here.

    If yall arent planning on doing anything just say it then. That same old we dont got any new info is bull #########.

    Id rather just hear yall say theres nothing our crappy inexperienced tech team can do about the problem and then we'll all stop bitching.

    At this point in time we all know thats what its come down to.

    If you guys wanted to fix it, it would be done. Simply put it wouldnt take 2 years to figure it out. Its just not even being worked on.

    Was nice meeting you.

  • @FabsRinas said:

    I was going to say this on the main thread but it was closed before I could write it: from what I've gathered, most of the frame drops that aren't map specific happen when you get the little icon on the right for bloodlust, undetectable and perk related (ie hexes), if anyone has more information, please add it to this

    When someone completes a gen/gets hooked it can cause your frames to drop which can cause you to miss skill checks or die in middle of struggle.

  • If anyone knows any video game journalists please let me know.

  • Multiple choice answers, round 1

    You promise your console playerbase 60 FPS, 1.5 years later things are actually worse and people are a bit annoyed. How do you respond?

    1) here's that 60 FPS we promised, sorry about the delay!

    2) Optimisation has been more difficult than anticipated but it is a priority issue and we will keep you updated regularly. We appreciate your patience.

    3) Our goals were unrealistic and we can no longer promise this level on current consoles. However we will still try and optimise the current generation as best we can, as well as ensuring top-quality performance on the next gen. We're very sorry.

    4) ...

  • @bm33 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588784#Comment_1588784

    When someone completes a gen/gets hooked it can cause your frames to drop which can cause you to miss skill checks or die in middle of struggle.

    If another survivor gets by a killer running sloppy butcher my game grinds to a halt causing me to miss a skillcheck whilst working on a generator.

  • To be honest if i got banned right now it wouldnt even upset me.

    I spend to much time and money on DBD as it is. I have all the killers all the survivors pretty much all the cosmetics.

    The game isnt looking to get any better for me as a console player.

    My experience as a console player is steadily going down hill and i honestly dont see it getting any better as i feel like performance issues will continue to plague the console community even with next generation consoles or at the very least we'll be waiting another year for an fps update.

    Yall pc players keep enjoying the game as its really fun to play.

    Ima head back to gow and r6 and f13.

  • @Aneurysm said:

    Multiple choice answers, round 1

    You promise your console playerbase 60 FPS, 1.5 years later things are actually worse and people are a bit annoyed. How do you respond?

    1) here's that 60 FPS we promised, sorry about the delay!

    2) Optimisation has been more difficult than anticipated but it is a priority issue and we will keep you updated regularly. We appreciate your patience.

    3) Our goals were unrealistic and we can no longer promise this level on current consoles. However we will still try and optimise the current generation as best we can, as well as ensuring top-quality performance on the next gen. We're very sorry.

    4) ...

    You forgot number five.

    Shut down the thread, say they'll delete others like it, sink threads, and merge discussions.

  • @ShrimpTwiggs said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588795#Comment_1588795

    You forgot number five.

    Shut down the thread, say they'll delete others like it, sink threads, and merge discussions.

    Ah yes, the wildcard option 😄

  • @BillyMain77 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588788#Comment_1588788

    To be honest if i got banned right now it wouldnt even upset me.

    I spend to much time and money on DBD as it is. I have all the killers all the survivors pretty much all the cosmetics.

    The game isnt looking to get any better for me as a console player.

    My experience as a console player is steadily going down hill and i honestly dont see it getting any better as i feel like performance issues will continue to plague the console community even with next generation consoles or at the very least we'll be waiting another year for an fps update.

    Yall pc players keep enjoying the game as its really fun to play.

    Ima head back to gow and r6 and f13.

    Good luck with gears 5 it's better but no where near the old games.

  • I think we the players deserve an apology from BHVR, their response to the console performance issues has been absolutely terrible.

  • @ShrimpTwiggs said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588795#Comment_1588795

    You forgot number five.

    Shut down the thread, say they'll delete others like it, sink threads, and merge discussions.

    By doing that, they thought they were putting the fire out with water, but it was gasoline

  • @Ryuzaki said:

    If anyone knows any video game journalists please let me know.

    Mike Wilson at Bloody Disgusting writes about DBD alot. His contact info can be found on his articles there.

  • I don't have hard time playing thing is my ps4 overheat sounds like it about to blowup.

  • @NekoGamerX said:

    I don't have hard time playing thing is my ps4 overheat sounds like it about to blowup.

    I half expect my ps4 to tell me to fasten my seatbelt in preparation for takeoff

  • @NekoGamerX said:

    I don't have hard time playing thing is my ps4 overheat sounds like it about to blowup.

    That too, my ps4 sounds like it will take off any second

    How can that be normal and how can they release a game that almost screws your platform?

  • dbd is communiest.JPG

    bro they just merged my thread with yours, wth? they really don't want their discussion flooded with console optimization threads because it would give them a bad rep.

    but yeah console needs to be heard!

    and now I wait for my comment to me edited by """"me"""" (Taking a screenshot of my reply right after this so when they do edit my reply, ill have a laugh)

  • @MrsPiggyIsSoSneaky said:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/FTCAJFAXG88R/dbd-is-communiest-jpg.jpg

    bro they just merged my thread with yours, wth? they really don't want their discussion flooded with console optimization threads because it would give them a bad rep.

    but yeah console needs to be heard!

    and now I wait for my comment to me edited by """"me"""" (Taking a screenshot of my reply right after this so when they do edit my reply, ill have a laugh)

    hey really don't want their discussion flooded with console optimization threads because it would give them a bad rep.

    Or maybe other people would also like to discuss things besides console optimization without having their threads buried.

  • @Aneurysm said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588820#Comment_1588820

    I half expect my ps4 to tell me to fasten my seatbelt in preparation for takeoff

    I lol hard on this so true.

    @FabsRinas said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588820#Comment_1588820

    That too, my ps4 sounds like it will take off any second

    How can that be normal and how can they release a game that almost screws your platform?

    not sure why I'm scared of the new update I have this game on steam too but my pc suck hard so I main on ps4 but witht he new update I don't know may not be able to play at all.

  • Would it be a good idea to spread this topic to twitter with a #?

    It would raise even more awareness on how bad the issue is, and it would be harder to censor that

    Edit: and it would help with the problem Orion talked about

    @Orion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588828#Comment_1588828

    hey really don't want their discussion flooded with console optimization threads because it would give them a bad rep.

    Or maybe other people would also like to discuss things besides console optimization without having their threads buried.


  • @Orion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588828#Comment_1588828

    hey really don't want their discussion flooded with console optimization threads because it would give them a bad rep.

    Or maybe other people would also like to discuss things besides console optimization without having their threads buried.

    We had one very nice and civil thread going buuuut they decided to close it. 🤷‍♀️

  • @Orion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588828#Comment_1588828

    hey really don't want their discussion flooded with console optimization threads because it would give them a bad rep.

    Or maybe other people would also like to discuss things besides console optimization without having their threads buried.

    True, but the front page regularly has multiple threads all dedicated to one specific perk or killer that are allowed to flourish seperately

  • @bm33 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588832#Comment_1588832

    We had one very nice and civil thread going buuuut they decided to close it. 🤷‍♀️

    ...Because people kept bumping it, which is against the rules. Why did you omit that part?

  • @Aneurysm said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588832#Comment_1588832

    True, but the front page regularly has multiple threads all dedicated to one specific perk or killer that are allowed to flourish seperately

    Yet they shouldn't be and it is, in fact, one of the main complaints on the forum.

  • @Orion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588838#Comment_1588838

    ...Because people kept bumping it, which is against the rules. Why did you omit that part?

    Out of 35 pages, how many were bumping it?

  • They honestly don't have a clue when it comes to console, but they're more than happy to collect money hand over fist from console user's.

    I get it the architecture of current gen console is outdated etc. But you can still get a game to run smoothly still look at R6, it runs at 60 fps on PS4 Pro and is graphically superior to DBD, there are plenty of games that look amazing that run 60fps because they are OPTIMIZED.

    DBD for what it is, a simple 5 player multiplayer game with questionable graphics should have no issue hitting 60 fps on console if they had the right developer

  • @Orion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1588828#Comment_1588828

    hey really don't want their discussion flooded with console optimization threads because it would give them a bad rep.

    Or maybe other people would also like to discuss things besides console optimization without having their threads buried.

    The forum is already flooded with Nerf DS, Nerf Noed, Nerf Spirit, Nerf SWF etc etc. The console optimization isn't just an important issue that needs to be talked about, it's a breath of fresh air compared to almost everything else.

  • Dunno, but when mods issue multiple warnings and you don't heed them, whose fault is it that a thread gets locked or deleted?

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