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  • R6 siege has a new player playlist that you can't play anymore past lvl 30 so similar thing might be great for new players measured by hours or similar thing.

  • @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2896009#Comment_2896009

    Yeah, but it's one person. Let them talk to themselves. The majority of people who play this game agree with you. The game is very punishing towards new players, and that includes people learning new killers. The way people are so toxic in chat makes a bad game even worse, and a lot of players leave because of it. I wouldn't recommend DbD to my worst enemy let alone a friend.

    Thank you for your support and kind words :)

  • @Tsulan said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2895852#Comment_2895852

    I blame streamers. Of course, not all streamers. But we certainly had a fair share of toxic streamers and people that imitated them.

    Suddenly winning wasn't enough, they somehow got a kick out of making others feel miserable.

    This is a game. People should play it to have fun. Feel competitive and enjoy after a long day of work. They shouldn't dread to start it up, because of how they get treated.

    Very good point I noticed how tons of DBD YouTubers and streamers are exclusively play to bully killers with different builds and with the help of their friends their only content is making fun of killers and making the miserable for the giggles and players are trying to mimic these actions.

  • @BenZ0 said:

    Same if you wanna play fun builds and no anti gen tryhard builds.

    I was playing coupe de grace, hex plaything, deadlock and bbq on Nemesis with the iri umbrella badge. Its a surprise one punch build where ppl use the vaccine and with plaything I go with a big ass coupe de grace one punch. Its pretty decent the build but ofc not meta and I got regually ppl trying to mock me and make fun of how stupid I am using those perks.

    I will never get ppl they cry about killers using full anti gen but if you dont use it they laugh about you dafuq?

    I noticed that everyone plays the shame game when you bring meta perks or anything survivors hate and you're supposed to be chill and play for fun, follow survivors rules and give hatch to the last survivor but they never play for fun or in chill ways it's always the same 4 perks and gen rushing marathons so everyone can tbag at the exit gates..

  • @adirgeforthedead said:

    Basically me with Onryo... I keep trying to learn how to play her because she seems fun while not the best Killer and all I get are Sweat Squads, but that has been my general MMR experience since it was introduced. I get, maybe, one fair/normal match every twenty or so.

    Yeah Onryo players are suffering through the same thing she's basically a weaker wraith her condemned is useless and her stealth too basically you're playing an m1 killer with random teleport locations ability.

  • @OpenX said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2895838#Comment_2895838

    The counter is to play in a manner that is conductive towards winning, and murder them.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2895840#Comment_2895840

    You could try Pyramid Head, it took me a long time to get the hang of him too but he's super rewarding once you do. He's my go-to ranged killer for sure. Godly at tunneling, and can play pretty cheesy if you know the cage spawns.

    I play lots of Bubba too since you can't really bully him either. Feed him pallets or die, and he's king camper.

    I do play bubba and pyramid head, bubba is good at punishing clicky survivors as for pyramid he is satisfying when you land your m2 but it's mainly prediction in jungle gyms and loops, try hag too even that she's boring she can give survivors a hard time you can patrol and protect hooks at the same time.

  • @OpenX said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2895828#Comment_2895828

    I would expect nothing less from a Nancy pfp to be fair. If I had a dollar for every time someone cried about camping and tunneling in this game I would be a rich, rich man. I get tears literally every day I play killer.

    But that's the usual double standard in this game. Survivors can cry all they want, but killer? Nope. Git gud.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2895822#Comment_2895822

    That's how I learned. I probably played my first ~300-400 hours on Nurse. From there I moved to Wraith, although i'm not sure how much I would recommend him these days. The M1 killers can still compete but your only strategy is basically tunneling at 5 gens +2-3 slowdown perks, otherwise you can't win with them.

    In before this survivor main tells me "just 12 hook the survivors on coldwind in 4 minutes with clown 4head"

    Wraith was my main when I started the game until I moved to huntress and nurse it's much more peace of mind playing nurse tbh you can't go back but she took me tons of hours of practice to do get the hang of her.

  • @Wendygo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2895822#Comment_2895822

    There is no friendly in comp

    Get good, quit crying and grow up. It's a game. Poor you:(

    Not talking about comp and swf only so basically if you're a god nurse and suddenly you get bored and you want to buy a new killer you will get matched with same level survivors the game matches you with when you play your main so you have literally no chance .

    Also get out of here with your survivor main BS.. So being toxic in game chat isn't enough and you want to bring that toxicity to the forum too?

  • @Wendygo said:

    And?Only one way to get good with a killer. Learn from you mistakes. Killer, you can make one bad chase. Against a SWF. That's game. Quit giving yourself pressure to do as good as your main. Have fun even if it's a 4 man out. 'How can you deter that in the future?' 'What can you do to better the playing field? '

    Point is. Give a new killer a chance and enjoy them. Learn their in's and outs.

    Ain't no fun in this at all,a lot of killers like slinger are weak and getting trolled by toxic swf's isn't a fun experience until you * learn * a new killer I'd rather stick to nurse after all until it's possible to practice in a more friendlier environment.

  • @OpenX said:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/DGG71D78E4VW/kwovcbl.jpg

    Soon you will be camping, tunneling, and BMing survivors as a second nature

    I'm waiting for the dark side invitation letter.

  • @Satelit said:

    I actually love Midwich as survivor,unless it's a Nurse for obvious reasons.

    I love playing nurse on the same map for those obvious reasons ;).

  • @Pulsar said:

    Different Killer MMR is basically meaningless.

    It probably does exist, but it may as well not for all the difference it makes.

    I noticed that much, no matter which killer I play it's the same skill level survivors I go against.

  • @StarLost said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/318487/killers-should-stop-expecting-easy-4k-every-match

    • This is basically 'whataboutism' the thread.
    • Both sides have their issues.
    • That said, someone asking for help on their side or providing feedback doesn't need you making a thread about them and putting them on blast or 'git gudding'.
    • Survivor queues are faster because there are 4 slots to every 1 killer slot.
    • Almost all of those survivor nerfs were 100% required. Infinites were dumb. Old DS was dumb. Old OoO was dumb. CoH stacking was dumb. Boil Over prenerf was awful.
    • Yes, solo Q is rough. But as long as SWF exists, this game has to be balanced around it. BHVR are introducing changes to help out solos soon.
    • I play solo survivor quite a bit. It's bad, but complaining about your stuff when someone else is giving feedback is just dirty pool.
    • You are single handedly driving the 'us versus them' mentality here. Stop.

    OP is ignoring your replies and doesn't reply to them since you're saying the absolute truth !

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    Same thing and I hate it, I can't pip any game in higher mmr as killer but it's super easy for survivors...

  • Not everyone can run nurse she's extremely difficult to play.

  • @makayla said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/502338#Comment_502338

    Nea, Laurie, Jake, and Quentin would like to have a word with you.

    What the hell is wrong with you , Laurie is hot especially in the movie she's a 9/10.

  • @MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

    Why all hackers are using Spirit lol

    It always Spirit or Dwight

    Probably her phasing can work as a cover for hacks so you assume it's just a good spirit player.

  • Duh just pressure gens.

  • @legacycolt said:

    Bait it out, it’s not hard. Also there’s killers like nurse in the game, they would need a nerf then too.

    Dead hard is used more to get safely to a pallet or a window to extend chases so you can't bait that one....

  • @mouse0270 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2893965#Comment_2893965

    See that is the problem, the devs have defined a win, but neither you or I go by it as a win. Everyone in this community has their own win conditions. And then everyone plays to meet their win conditions, not the games. All for some rank/MMR that really just means nothting.

    Please know, I am not trying to be rude or say what you're doing is wrong, I've even openly admitted my condition isn't BHVR's. I am saying, as long as everyone keeps playing to "win" the game is just going to be unfun at higher levels.

    So once again, if a killer wants to camp and tunnel, its going to happen, and if survivors want to booli, its going to happen. Its really just a twisted chicken and egg that is never going to end.

    Well yeah a lot of this is blamed on devs but majority of gamer are playing video games for some goals, personally I'd get bored to death playing a pvp game without ranks and competitive goals grinding higher ranks like league of legends , cs go ect but these games are balanced more and fair while DBD is weird since it's a 4 vs 1 and everyone doesn't want mmr and the game to be competitive but devs wanted otherwise they created ranks and pip system and mmr so that's the logical goal for the majority to climb ranks and to play for the goal of winning.

  • @mouse0270 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2893940#Comment_2893940

    Yes, I don't consider gaining less bp as a nerf. As it does not affect the killer's ability to kill survivors, it just affects the killer's rewards for their playstyle... That is not a nerf in my mind. Sorry that we disagree on this.

    And you are right, the survivor meta is terrible. Find me on twitch and I am sure you will hear me yelling about dead hard 800 times. IT SUCKS. But to be fair, I blame the survivor meta on killers and the killer meta on survivors. When I play killer and I see Dead Hard on 3+ survivors per game... It really makes me want to run better perks and addons, but I really don't want to be a part of that loop.

    Also our views might be different because of what you consider a win. According to BHVR, its 0-1 kills is a lose, 2 kills is a tie and 3+ kills is a win. You don't need hooks. However, I personally count 7-8 hooks as a win. And I get that more often than not when I play the way I play. I bet if you look at all of these 8k hour killers you're talking about they often get quite a few hooks or at least 2+ kills per game. Even if they don't tunnel. this 4k = win, is a toxic way to look at the game.

    Surprisingly most of them are embracing hard tunneling methods they don't even care anymore. For me a win is when I pip because that's the most logical way of seeing a win in DBD tbh even that devs said 2 kills are a win they should've given killer 1 pip in that condition.

  • @mouse0270 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2893918#Comment_2893918

    Before I respond, could you please point out where I said anything about nerfing killers? At best I said give them less BP which isn't an actual nerf...

    I don't really care about tunneling or camping to me it is a tactic a bad killer uses to boost a skill value they can't see that only puts them against more survivors they don't have the skill to play against. I am going to assume I am not TOP MMR but I am probably above average in my abilities. I do better some matches than others, and have I tunneled or camped? Sure probably, but its not a tactic I rely on.

    The game isn't competitive and you're not playing against 4 AI bots. You're playing against 4 other people that you have no idea what their day was like, they could have had a bad day at work, gotten broken up with, lost a loved one, got a promotion at work, got a new pet, lost a pet... Saying your fun is more vaulable than theirs simply because it's you and not them, is selfish.

    I am never going to tell people they stop camping and tunneling, if they want to be selfish or do it for whatever reason they can and I am just going to move on, however, I wont ever encourage it. Its no fun for the other side.

    And before you go off, I say the same thing about booli SWF squads and survivors that run all meta perks... To me, if you play in a way you know the other side finds unfun, you don't really get to complain about the othersides point of few.

    Goes the same way for survivors every game there is a minimum of 1 toxic survivor if not the whole bunch lol. Okay so giving killers less BP isn't a nerf? you know how grindy this game is and even devs are planning to increase BP for killers to make it more appealing to play that miserable role, I'm just saying to you that with mmr and boons and dead hard meta many killers are forced into tunneling someone out of the game asap because going for 12 hooks is an insta lose and it's not an unskilled killer method you can be a 8000h killer main you can watch different killer players on twitch and YouTube and they literally lose most of their games high escape rates because it doesn't matter how good you're if you go against 4 efficient players communicating.

  • @mouse0270 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2893882#Comment_2893882

    Yes cause holding M1 longer is what everyone wants to do... People need to stop asking for this, I may not like the devs the way I used to, but I agree with them, making the least enjoyable part of the game longer is not the solution.

    You're never going to fix camping, but they could put systems in place to discourage it. The problem is that will only reduce it to some extent, Bubba basement is a meme and will exist as long as bubba is in the game, people who just got discouraged by being outplayed are still going to camp no matter what you do.

    Some people just like camping and tunneling one person out, really the only solution is to discourage it and deal with it when it happens.

    So you want to nerf killers without touching survivors ? the game already doesn't have enough killers. Camping or tunneling 1 survivor out of the game is a strategy used these days to give killer a chance against all the advantages survivors have especially in high mmr so if killers had a chance they wouldn't play a boring style of tunneling and camping to win.

  • Removing camping or securing kills will force killer to chase different killer = extending the game and giving survivors easier time to gen rush if that happens killer mains will flood everywhere complaining.

    The only real solution to this is to slow down gens and make it more fair and possible for killers to play in different ways so they don't need to camp and tunnel.

  • @RiskyKara said:

    Bird momma genuinely freaks me out. Her animations, the noises, the presence. I hate her so much. Even after I've played as her and against her so much I still get a sense of dread when I go against her.

    Sometimes when I'm in a chase I'll be doing great then I'll get a rush of "oh God make it stop please just go away!"

    Dunno why, I don't have any issues with any other killers or horror in general.

    That's weird , I think she's hot.

  • I was terrified by the ring in early 2000's when I was younger but not anymore especially sadako in dbd looks smol and adorable and derby she's funny more than scary.

    Ban won't work in DBD because everyone will perma ban nurse.

  • @Stroggz said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2893645#Comment_2893645

    Maybe show the account level instead? Like we see players prestige icons and level in CoD.

    Good idea so you can see how long players played the game for.

  • @Valik said:

    It is torture. But to be honest - it is not at all about playing 'the perfect game' in behavior's eyes, it's about making Tier 1 killer hardest of all to accomplish.

    Getting Tier 1 should be incredibly hard - so it's not that big of a deal to be a challenge.

    However, the scoring events themselves and the way it looks at how 'well' you preformed NEEDS to be changed.

    As it stands, it still punishes you for using exposure perks and playing the game too quickly.

    I think even using a Mori reduces your chances of getting a pip considerably too right?

  • I watched most of his video been subscribed for a long time and I played blight for too many games and hours I'm not a brand new player I have him at lvl 50 already and I'm trying to do flicks and sliding across shack and loops, I watched countless tutorial but I just can't play him I feel crippled and at high mmr I get gen rushed trying to get a down he is just too complicated limited movement and direction against good survivors that can easily dodge you, you need to be a god to use his power in loops.

  • @DoritoHead said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2892094#Comment_2892094

    It's really not that hard to learn him if you stick with it. I've gone from terrible to okay a week after switching to PC, and Dbd is one of the first games I've played on a PC.

    I learned nurse but couldn't for blight he can be juked easily and his power is extremely hard in jungle gyms and everyone can easily hide behind random objects and deny you hits but if he had a higher turn rate with nerfing his speed and cool down would make him easier for everyone.

  • Blight is too difficult to play and can be only abused by pro players using high dpi mouse, blight needs a full rework so he becomes easier to play but less powerful since in his current state only pro pc players can use him.

  • @TotemSeeker91 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2891972#Comment_2891972

    Even so, nothing is toxic or bullying except endgame chat, and I can see they said very...not aggressive things that you shouldn't let get to you

    You didn't play the match... I did I gone through it not you....

  • the 2 red rank swf were the bullies not the remaining ones.

  • @prion11 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2891950#Comment_2891950

    I was commending you on getting 3 kills under the circumstances, even if I didn't pip in that situation I'd be taking pleasure in that their little game didn't work and the guy with the map offering is dead

    I wanted to DC because they denied me like tons of hooks by sabotaging and flashlight saves but I sweated just to make sure they didn't get their fun they didn't expect a nurse but I had a hard time probably my second worst game as a killer ever too frustrating and they used that perk to refill flashlights over and over and over

  • @prion11 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2891924#Comment_2891924

    yep... that checks out. 4 dead hards, sabo builds, the game offering with the purple tree, my condolences. oh wait you got a 3k that's pretty good

    I had no chance in winning if I didn't play nurse all gens were done and hardly got 2 kills the 3rd kill was lucky thank to no way out perk but still didn't pip they made my life miserable for 30 minutes 2 were sabotaging any nearby hooks , 1 had some sort of cheat he blind me behind walls instantly if I pick someone and indoor map was terrible for nurse I only got one of the kills because they were greedy for the last gen one of them kept coming back to it but if I played anything other than nurse it's a guaranteed 4 escape.

    The pic was an answer for you claiming there is not enough dead hard for high mmr so that was your answer it wasn't about the match itself..

  • @prion11 said:

    is it really high mmr if there are only 2/4 dead hards?

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    Last match I played was against a sabo squad, 4 dead hard good enough for you?

  • @Aven_Fallen said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2891805#Comment_2891805

    bwahaha. Good Joke.

    Just yesterday a Wraith I went against was VERY upset because I hit them with DS (without forcing it by any means) and because I lightburned them with a Flashlight. This person would have downvoted me.

    And also yesterday a Blight called me a Hacker because I have a private profile and that person thought I would be playing DBD with 0 games on my Steam-Account.

    Let alone this forum - people call everything toxic what they dont like, regardless what.

    Same goes for survivors if you get hooked first or slugged or any similar tactic to get 2 downs for examples you will get downvoted as a killer it won't work for both sides, it's coded in the game the whole mechanics are unpleasant and be used to annoying toward other player, you can't be this level of toxic in many other games where it's only possible by chat but in DBD it's possible by actions.

  • @ThiccBudhha said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2891805#Comment_2891805

    Nah, I get salty survivors even when I play by the handbook better than they even understand their own handbook. That being said, of course I get more of them when I do the opposite of their gospel, naturally.

    It's not going to be that effective because someone might get mad just because you downed them before anyone else and many others can be salty in post game chat just because you won as a killer, it happens.

  • @Advorsus said:

    Regardless if some people find it easy or not to pip. It's an outdated skill based system that doesn't fit with the time played grade system.

    You can't use a skill based system to determine the results for a system that's supposed to be determined by time played, and then say grades have no reflection of skill.

    It's part of the reason I stopped playing between the grind, and the whole getting a great double pip match one match, followed by 3 matches where it's even or bad matches. So you either black pip or depip, losing all progress you made. So even though you're playing more the game is saying you're not, simply because you're not killing people AND scoring enough points in match. Kill them all too quickly? Sorry that's a depip, despite you actually playing the game and completing your objective. It's a ######### system.

    Thank you ! couldn't say it better than you did , that's exactly the core problem the emblem system doesn't take in count the mmr system.

  • @Seanzu said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2891749#Comment_2891749

    Ahh yes, and when people start downvoting each other for play styles it'll be a system as useless as the current MMR one.

    If you are not toxic chances of you getting down voted are low but you're toxic aren't you?

  • @Faulds said:

    I never have any problem with pipping as killer. Its way easier than survivor, you can do consistently good if you do well in the trial (absolutely not the case when playing survivor). If you had such a hard time during the game, maybe thats why your pipping wasn't good even though you killed three of them... because you barely beat them.

    Got 2 gold emblems and 1 Iri 1 silver so that looks good enough for 1 pip

  • What's the point of grinding rank 1 then ?

  • So if a survivor gets many reports of toxicity or hacking ect do you ban them or even with too many different player reports you still need video evidence ? How many reports are enough to ban them?

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Camp and tunnel all you want dude, they’re going to blame you for it anyway if when you don’t do it. So F them.

    It's easy to tunnel and face camp but it gives you 0 pip and my goal is to get the highest rank I can every reset.

  • @Seanzu said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2891019#Comment_2891019

    Well in this case, yes, survivors can't do much in the form of replying or actions in dbd, they have 2 emotes that killers deem toxic, they have flashlight clicking which is deemed toxic, and also "t-bagging", no matter which one i choose to do killers are going to find it offensive so I'll use which ever one is the easiest to gain attention to try and draw campers etc away, if you find that offensive then it's not my fault,.

    Usually the ones that want your attention are good at chases so it's a waste if time to chase them

  • @ka_klick said:

    I swear I've de-pipped on 4K basement hook-dive fest's where you end up with a 4k and no gen's done. I get they want to encourage "fair" play, but when you get a fast 4k and at best, 0-pip it's kinda dis-heartening. Play efficient, but not too efficient.

    Not really you can't pip with basement camping because you get no points in any category you didn't chase and didn't hook everyone multiple times and you didn't pressure gens.

    In my game I did everything but I still didn't get a pip so if I played correctly and didn't get a pip no chance you'd get one with your method because this system doesn't reward effeciency but rather forcing you to amuse survivors as their clown making sure you chase everyone and kick every gen and hook everyone 3 times which is impossible in high mmr and this meta, I did that with nurse but didn't get a pip it's not fair.

  • @KingFieldShipper said:

    Out of curiosity, what killer were you playing as? I don't think devout is really killer based as something like the chaser emblem, but I'm just curious

    The emblem systems for devout rewards hook stages. if I'm not mistaken is:

    2 pts for every sacrifice/mori/dc

    1pt for hooking everyone at 9 times (so having everyone at 1 hook stage left)

    1pt for hooking everyone once

    So based on the end game screen, it seems like maybe the person that got escaped you weren't able to hook as much, if at all? So, 3 deaths = 6 points (silver emblem) - leaving either one or both of those 1 points missing to get up to gold, which would have gotten a pip.

    I personally find it easier to pip up as killer in iri rather than survivor. Survivor, to pip up in iri, you basically need to do at least 2-3 gens, 2-3 heals and unhooks, and get chased a bunch, and to double pip it requires you to not be downed at all during the match. The range of 2-3 depends on where in iri you are.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2891618#Comment_2891618

    The reason a 4k != pip is because the game wants you to play out the match - meaning spread out chases, hooks, prevent gens, etc. It's for the same reason if you "gen rush" as a survivor and get out as fast as possible results in a loss of a pip

    Nurse and I mentioned it in the post, the problem I faced a toxic sabo squad that didn't let me hook easily too many downs but the map is indoors easy to hide in many rooms no open spaces and 1 survivor was hacking so I pressured gens and chased and downed I played a difficult map and I didn't camp or even tunnel wasn't an option because DS flashlight saves hack and sabotage so whenever I hardly managed to pick someone 2 hooks near me were sabotaged it's torture they had a full you can't hook build as you can see in the pics but I hooked 2 of them 3 times I remember and 1 2 times and 4th survivor maybe once but this isn't fair why 0 pip for all my effort and the outcome ? Meanwhile I bet all of them got max pip easily.

  • @YoshisWorld3 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2890863#Comment_2890863

    Yea it is.

    Have this ######### all the time. Even stopped playing killer cuz of all this bs

    It's so dann easy to pip as survivor. Even if you die you are able to 1pip

    As killer you aren't even granted a 1pip if you kill 3 people like you can see on your pics but yea dbd is "focused" on 2kills and 2 escapes the devs say but you still doesn't even get something for that then. It's kinda sad.

    Also got 2 gold emblems and 1 red and 1 silver like it's good enough for 1 pip I played against a sabo squad that made the match miserable for me but instead I played the best I can since they were so toxic but no pip and I literally had previous survivor games where I didn't care about winning or pip I just did chases and saves but somehow you get pip for not even wanting to as a survivor it's a joke

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