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@powerbats said:
There's a n exploit similar to clowns where you censored censored/censored repeatedly, it works best with censored censored. It gives you the same speed boost if not faster but much quicker and you basically have bl 1 without even being anywhere close to it.Only P3 and Legacies have been using it but now it's rampant where before you might get a few now there's tons of em doing it.
Oh and killer mains complaining about flashlights in lobbies, now that it's rampant with Wraiths prepare to see 4 flashlight lobbies all the time as survivors prepare to blind them.
too bad flashlights are pretty bunk against him because he can uncloak before the burn finishes
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You're not meant to be able to wiggle out normally, it exists so that the killer cant basement you every time.HeroLives said:There are way too many hooks close together, it does make most wiggling attempts pointless -
"Be creative" aka make the perk basically non functional
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she's literally the worst killer in the game are you mental?
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"braindead trapper"Dudddd said:
The sarcasm is real right here , if anyone gets looped using spirit on its first day release are just terrible at playing killer and should go back to playing with braindead trapper .Supernaut said:oh, incidentally; I've just been playing as survivor and have had two Spirits disconnect in consecutive games after being looped to high heaven...
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wow super overpowered loop spots finally got fixed the horror!
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0, just need to get her to level 40
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I agree, she's very poor.
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worst killer added by far tbh
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@Usui said:
baby killers not knowing how windows work.. go figure lmaoactual bug that has been reported and shown with video evidence by multiple people
you: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ######### BABY KILLER
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its bugged, sometimes the blocker just doesnt work
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No they don't, all killers have an identical hitbox.Hellbilly said:@yeet said:
jakeb_1993 said:At since this forum is 98% killer, this is going to hurt you alot.
There is no such thing as looping or an infinite loop. It is mathematically impossible. Let me break down nice and easy for you:
Lets say that a survivor has a base speed of 'n'
Since killers are faster we will say that the killers speed is 'n+1'
Given that they are both running around the same obstacle the length of 'l' is the same for both killers and survivors.
Since they both cover the same ground 'n+1=l' occurs before 'n=l'
This doesn't even begin to cover bloodlust which adds 'an extra +1 to speed for all three tiers resulting in +4'
So what about Windows?
Since survivors rarely go through the vaults at full speed and the fact hat killers can lunge attack through the vaults then looping is impossible. Either one of two things will happen: the survivor gets hit and then sprints away or the survivor successful vaults and the attack misses (Rarely happens due to broken hit boxes and whatnot but that's another argument for another day).
Plus if a survivor really wants to 'loop' a window then they can only loop twice before getting shut off. So again. Not a valid argument.
So onto Pallets:
Pallets disrupt 'l' to slow the killer down.and yes, technically it is possible to run around and cause a semi-permaent loop. I say semi cause here is the thing: You can break pallets. Shock horror. So looping around pallets for 'infinite' is impossible.
Please just stop getting salty over the fact that you keep losing mind games to survivors. If you keep running in one direction you will catch them or they will break the loop. Simples. Not hard. I break them all the time. I would say 'Git Gud' like you say to everyone else on here, but tbh I think for you salty lot on these forums 'good' is a bit of a stretch of your abilities.
Survivors have a much smaller environmental hitbox thus they move around objects quicker, you're not as smart as you think.
Which is why Freddy/Pig are a little bit better when it comes to pallet juking because they have the same hitbox as Survivors, except when it comes to getting hit by the pallet.
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I'd hardly call 3 dead at 3 gens a "struggle"SenzuDuck said:I mean, you could have walked away and started doing gens but that's just too hard, right?
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the only substantial buffs killers have ever gotten is the removal of infinites and pallet vacuumSenzuDuck said:@yeet said:
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@DocOctober said: @SenzuDuck said: @DocOctober said: Intentionally derank? Rank reset was on Thursday and Orion doesn't play Dead by Daylight 24/7, only sporadically recently. He didn't derank ######### and you have no basis nor indication to assume that. And besides that, most Killers don't play nice after a rank reset. In my opinion, it's better to slaughter the newbies and low-ranks and get out of the low ranks quickly thanks to double-pips than to purposefully play badly and remain there for longer than is necessary. So he hasn't played killer for a few resets but constantly goes on about how hard the game is, and hasn't been playing at all with the latests patches then? Right - so sounds like someone who has no idea. Yeaaaa, good one mate. Lets camp one survivor on the hook to double pip and get out of high rank quickly, that's makes sense. @Orion said: I don't intentionally derank, so I'd appreciate it if you stopped making ######### up. I play casually (lot of mistakes, some intentional some not, sub-optimal builds, and so on), so I don't rank up. When I did play at high ranks it was a pain in the ass, no matter the result, so I decided to wait it out, give it a few rank resets, and now I stay at around rank 15-10, where I can play the game to relax instead of stressing myself out trying to always play perfectly. I can't take people seriously when they make ######### up about others, and I wouldn't want you to watch my stream anyway, so rest assured, you won't be missed. So - you've waited out a few rank resets. You're rank 17 - you come back and decide to facecamp (lol gg well played you're good btw). So - now you play the game at rank 10 -15 and intentionally play like trash ( not because you're bad because you choose too? ok lol) but you've also decided to (despite losing intentionally and playing poorly to keep in your rank 10-15 safety net) complain about how hard killer is when you've confessed yourself you don't even play properly, am I getting this right? You play badly on purpose, but come to the forums to complain about how hard it is to win? oh my god, you actually can't make this up, LOL.
Orion indeed didn't play the game much for the past 1.5 years, but he's been keeping tabs on everything that has been happening with the game. You don't need to actively play Killer to know how unbalanced the game still is. Unbiased observation is sufficient. He's also got several friends who still actively play the game (myself included) and gets feedback from that source as well. He also stays out of high ranks on purpose as he can't stand the looping meta.
But honestly, it seems you just like being offensive and argue for the sake of it. I think I'm wasting my time with you. AAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHA HE HASNT PLAYED THE GAME FOR 1.5 YEARS. Lets list some things he wont have played with then. Less pallets All killers speeds were buffed Torches nurfed Gens now regress to 0% Exhaustion changes New perks for the killers like BBQ The Huntress BNP Changes But hey Killers, have at it - your bastion of unbiased killer talk is Orion, the person who hasn't played properly in over a year. L U L All minor changes that had basically no effect on the core problems?
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Hey man if you're bad at the game then obviously none of these changes will have mattered in your eyes.
Ooooor you're a poor survivor unable to exploit the broken mechanics?
What? I play just fine with all of these changes because all the expert killers are too busy on this forum crying about how hard the game is instead of showing s survivors how good they are.
I play killer, also - but I'm not bad enough to need every buff under the sun.
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Ooooor you're a poor survivor unable to exploit the broken mechanics?SenzuDuck said:@yeet said:
SenzuDuck said:@DocOctober said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@DocOctober said:
Intentionally derank? Rank reset was on Thursday and Orion doesn't play Dead by Daylight 24/7, only sporadically recently.
He didn't derank ######### and you have no basis nor indication to assume that.
And besides that, most Killers don't play nice after a rank reset. In my opinion, it's better to slaughter the newbies and low-ranks and get out of the low ranks quickly thanks to double-pips than to purposefully play badly and remain there for longer than is necessary.
So he hasn't played killer for a few resets but constantly goes on about how hard the game is, and hasn't been playing at all with the latests patches then? Right - so sounds like someone who has no idea.
Yeaaaa, good one mate. Lets camp one survivor on the hook to double pip and get out of high rank quickly, that's makes sense.
@Orion said:
I don't intentionally derank, so I'd appreciate it if you stopped making ######### up. I play casually (lot of mistakes, some intentional some not, sub-optimal builds, and so on), so I don't rank up. When I did play at high ranks it was a pain in the ass, no matter the result, so I decided to wait it out, give it a few rank resets, and now I stay at around rank 15-10, where I can play the game to relax instead of stressing myself out trying to always play perfectly.
I can't take people seriously when they make ######### up about others, and I wouldn't want you to watch my stream anyway, so rest assured, you won't be missed.
So - you've waited out a few rank resets. You're rank 17 - you come back and decide to facecamp (lol gg well played you're good btw).
So - now you play the game at rank 10 -15 and intentionally play like trash ( not because you're bad because you choose too? ok lol) but you've also decided to (despite losing intentionally and playing poorly to keep in your rank 10-15 safety net) complain about how hard killer is when you've confessed yourself you don't even play properly, am I getting this right? You play badly on purpose, but come to the forums to complain about how hard it is to win?
oh my god, you actually can't make this up, LOL.
Orion indeed didn't play the game much for the past 1.5 years, but he's been keeping tabs on everything that has been happening with the game. You don't need to actively play Killer to know how unbalanced the game still is. Unbiased observation is sufficient. He's also got several friends who still actively play the game (myself included) and gets feedback from that source as well. He also stays out of high ranks on purpose as he can't stand the looping meta.
But honestly, it seems you just like being offensive and argue for the sake of it. I think I'm wasting my time with you.
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HE HASNT PLAYED THE GAME FOR 1.5 YEARS.
Lets list some things he wont have played with then.
Less pallets
All killers speeds were buffed
Torches nurfed
Gens now regress to 0%
Exhaustion changes
New perks for the killers like BBQ
The Huntress
BNP Changes
But hey Killers, have at it - your bastion of unbiased killer talk is Orion, the person who hasn't played properly in over a year.
L U L
All minor changes that had basically no effect on the core problems?
🤔Hey man if you're bad at the game then obviously none of these changes will have mattered in your eyes.
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All minor changes that had basically no effect on the core problems?SenzuDuck said:@DocOctober said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@DocOctober said:
Intentionally derank? Rank reset was on Thursday and Orion doesn't play Dead by Daylight 24/7, only sporadically recently.He didn't derank ######### and you have no basis nor indication to assume that.
And besides that, most Killers don't play nice after a rank reset. In my opinion, it's better to slaughter the newbies and low-ranks and get out of the low ranks quickly thanks to double-pips than to purposefully play badly and remain there for longer than is necessary.
So he hasn't played killer for a few resets but constantly goes on about how hard the game is, and hasn't been playing at all with the latests patches then? Right - so sounds like someone who has no idea.
Yeaaaa, good one mate. Lets camp one survivor on the hook to double pip and get out of high rank quickly, that's makes sense.
@Orion said:
I don't intentionally derank, so I'd appreciate it if you stopped making ######### up. I play casually (lot of mistakes, some intentional some not, sub-optimal builds, and so on), so I don't rank up. When I did play at high ranks it was a pain in the ass, no matter the result, so I decided to wait it out, give it a few rank resets, and now I stay at around rank 15-10, where I can play the game to relax instead of stressing myself out trying to always play perfectly.I can't take people seriously when they make ######### up about others, and I wouldn't want you to watch my stream anyway, so rest assured, you won't be missed.
So - you've waited out a few rank resets. You're rank 17 - you come back and decide to facecamp (lol gg well played you're good btw).
So - now you play the game at rank 10 -15 and intentionally play like trash ( not because you're bad because you choose too? ok lol) but you've also decided to (despite losing intentionally and playing poorly to keep in your rank 10-15 safety net) complain about how hard killer is when you've confessed yourself you don't even play properly, am I getting this right? You play badly on purpose, but come to the forums to complain about how hard it is to win?
oh my god, you actually can't make this up, LOL.
Orion indeed didn't play the game much for the past 1.5 years, but he's been keeping tabs on everything that has been happening with the game. You don't need to actively play Killer to know how unbalanced the game still is. Unbiased observation is sufficient. He's also got several friends who still actively play the game (myself included) and gets feedback from that source as well. He also stays out of high ranks on purpose as he can't stand the looping meta.
But honestly, it seems you just like being offensive and argue for the sake of it. I think I'm wasting my time with you.
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HE HASNT PLAYED THE GAME FOR 1.5 YEARS.
Lets list some things he wont have played with then.Less pallets
All killers speeds were buffed
Torches nurfed
Gens now regress to 0%
Exhaustion changes
New perks for the killers like BBQ
The Huntress
BNP ChangesBut hey Killers, have at it - your bastion of unbiased killer talk is Orion, the person who hasn't played properly in over a year.
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you cant intentionally derank to rank 17 anymoreSenzuDuck said:@yeet said:
SenzuDuck said:@Jack11803 said:
@Orion said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Orion said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Bastion said:
@SenzuDuck said:
I had to stop reading as soon as I saw you mention nurse losing her bloodlust who bloodlusts with nurse?
and no - killers shouldn't just keep blood lust and gain it from breaking pallets, that's ridiculous.
They're changing maps, and for the better - bloodlust will be gone soon If they continue to improve maps and change pallet placements/quantities.
so you had to stop reading when i explained the current state of the mechanic? i know you don't bloodlust as Nurse. she might as well have a move speed of 85% for how often you actually walk with her.
its been a back and forth nonbalancing act for a long time and the game could use some changes that actually shake up the way you play. make you think differently about your situation. this adds counterplay that high ranks will use and wont change low rank games that much. these are the kinds of changes we need. not just -1 window + 1 pallet here -2 pallets on this map +2 windows on that map. while i agree maps need to be fair i dont think this fixes the core issue. 5 Gens vs 12 hooks(to kill 4 people)
in its current state 2 survivors can finish 1 gen before you get to Bloodlust 3 btw. and yes i know mind games win games...
REALLY!? Cuz bloodlust from pallets and keeping it seems like the only counter play is GET #########. Keep in mind this would only ENCOURAGE looping over actual hiding and LOS breaking.
So if your actions buff the Killer, you, as a thinking human being, believe that the only counter is to continue performing those actions?
Ah yeah, I totally blow a killers mind and hide without using a single pallet, and totally do it under 15 seconds as well!
The pallet would still stun the Killer and force them to either take a detour or break it, and you could also try stealth to avoid getting into a chase in the first place. Pallets would still be useful, they just wouldn't waste so much of the Killer's time.
Steath before a chase is currently ######### tier, and very weak. It needs buff. Same with chase stealth. Looping does need nerfs, but this ain’t how you do it. Also, with enduring a brutal strength, you’ve succefully bought like 4 seconds, which in most maps also is in an open area. Yeah no.
He truly has no idea how to play the game - I just watched one of his twitch vods and witnessed him tunnelling and camping rank 17 survivors.
"Not intentionally losing means you don't know how to play the game"
this is a new level of absurdity even for youIntentionally deranking to go against survivors that don't know how to play the game so you can bully them.
One gen had been done and he camped the hook, downed the one who got unhooked and hooked them and camped until they're dead, at rank 17.I knew he was terrible but that's embarrassing coming from someone on here who likes to complain about how hard the game is.
No wonder they get wrecked if they sit in front of a survivor until they're dead.
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Survivors have a much smaller environmental hitbox thus they move around objects quicker, you're not as smart as you think.jakeb_1993 said:At since this forum is 98% killer, this is going to hurt you alot.
There is no such thing as looping or an infinite loop. It is mathematically impossible. Let me break down nice and easy for you:
Lets say that a survivor has a base speed of 'n'
Since killers are faster we will say that the killers speed is 'n+1'
Given that they are both running around the same obstacle the length of 'l' is the same for both killers and survivors.
Since they both cover the same ground 'n+1=l' occurs before 'n=l'
This doesn't even begin to cover bloodlust which adds 'an extra +1 to speed for all three tiers resulting in +4'
So what about Windows?
Since survivors rarely go through the vaults at full speed and the fact hat killers can lunge attack through the vaults then looping is impossible. Either one of two things will happen: the survivor gets hit and then sprints away or the survivor successful vaults and the attack misses (Rarely happens due to broken hit boxes and whatnot but that's another argument for another day).
Plus if a survivor really wants to 'loop' a window then they can only loop twice before getting shut off. So again. Not a valid argument.
So onto Pallets:
Pallets disrupt 'l' to slow the killer down.and yes, technically it is possible to run around and cause a semi-permaent loop. I say semi cause here is the thing: You can break pallets. Shock horror. So looping around pallets for 'infinite' is impossible.
Please just stop getting salty over the fact that you keep losing mind games to survivors. If you keep running in one direction you will catch them or they will break the loop. Simples. Not hard. I break them all the time. I would say 'Git Gud' like you say to everyone else on here, but tbh I think for you salty lot on these forums 'good' is a bit of a stretch of your abilities. -
how about delete desicive strike
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"Not intentionally losing means you don't know how to play the game"SenzuDuck said:@Jack11803 said:
@Orion said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Orion said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Bastion said:
@SenzuDuck said:
I had to stop reading as soon as I saw you mention nurse losing her bloodlust who bloodlusts with nurse?and no - killers shouldn't just keep blood lust and gain it from breaking pallets, that's ridiculous.
They're changing maps, and for the better - bloodlust will be gone soon If they continue to improve maps and change pallet placements/quantities.
so you had to stop reading when i explained the current state of the mechanic? i know you don't bloodlust as Nurse. she might as well have a move speed of 85% for how often you actually walk with her.
its been a back and forth nonbalancing act for a long time and the game could use some changes that actually shake up the way you play. make you think differently about your situation. this adds counterplay that high ranks will use and wont change low rank games that much. these are the kinds of changes we need. not just -1 window + 1 pallet here -2 pallets on this map +2 windows on that map. while i agree maps need to be fair i dont think this fixes the core issue. 5 Gens vs 12 hooks(to kill 4 people)
in its current state 2 survivors can finish 1 gen before you get to Bloodlust 3 btw. and yes i know mind games win games...
REALLY!? Cuz bloodlust from pallets and keeping it seems like the only counter play is GET #########. Keep in mind this would only ENCOURAGE looping over actual hiding and LOS breaking.
So if your actions buff the Killer, you, as a thinking human being, believe that the only counter is to continue performing those actions?
Ah yeah, I totally blow a killers mind and hide without using a single pallet, and totally do it under 15 seconds as well!
The pallet would still stun the Killer and force them to either take a detour or break it, and you could also try stealth to avoid getting into a chase in the first place. Pallets would still be useful, they just wouldn't waste so much of the Killer's time.
Steath before a chase is currently ######### tier, and very weak. It needs buff. Same with chase stealth. Looping does need nerfs, but this ain’t how you do it. Also, with enduring a brutal strength, you’ve succefully bought like 4 seconds, which in most maps also is in an open area. Yeah no.
He truly has no idea how to play the game - I just watched one of his twitch vods and witnessed him tunnelling and camping rank 17 survivors.
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Try playing the game for more than 10 hours, he's garbage.jakeb_1993 said:Nah, LF is way too overpowered with his chainsaw as is. If anything he needs nerfing more. He moves way to fast while swinging the chainsaw and can move far too easily with it. Slow down his speed while swinging and it makes it way more balanced.
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1. His walking speed is 115% MS, no faster than any other killerSir_Kazi said:@yeet said:
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@yeet said: Sir_Kazi said:
HOW does FREDDY need a buff? I don't understand. He can see you when in dream world. you have to fail a skill check so it shows where you are on map. his walk speed is ridiculous. what are you guys saying?
yep this one is going in to my cringe compliation you talkin ######### without explaining why. I been surviving for a while. what are his cons because I only see the pros.
Actually play him.
I only survive at the moment. once I prestige all survivors and #########. It's Killer time
Explains why you think he's any good, only playing the game on easy mode will do that to you.
playing him is like plucking your own teeth with pliersbro you keep saying vague ass statements. Ok i'll go first bro.
His walk speed is crazy in dream world, he's invisible so you're forced to get caught into dreamworld. Unless there is some secret i dont know on how to avoid him. he can see you outside his terror radius. so even if he chasing someone else, you have to hit a gen and get exposed. those are the pros he has that i've seen while surviving. now PLZ explain what makes him awful. i see EVERYONE saying he needs buffs but no one explaining why.
2. Its incredibly easy to break out of the dreamworld with self care
3. His power does LITERALLY NOTHING in a chase, in fact it only hinders him, he needs to wait a full 7 seconds to hit a survivor, and survivors can break out of the dream world mid chase
4. He is incredibly easy to bully, you can finish gens and heal people in his face and there is literally nothing you can do about it
his only real strenght is finding people which really isn't hard to do, he is worse than baseline at literally everything else
seriously just pallet loop him instead of trying to hide, hiding is a noob trap anyway and looping is so braindead easy and effective i dont see why anyone wouldn't use it. -
Explains why you think he's any good, only playing the game on easy mode will do that to you.Sir_Kazi said:@yeet said:
Sir_Kazi said:@yeet said:
Sir_Kazi said:
HOW does FREDDY need a buff? I don't understand. He can see you when in dream world. you have to fail a skill check so it shows where you are on map. his walk speed is ridiculous. what are you guys saying?
yep this one is going in to my cringe compliation
you talkin ######### without explaining why. I been surviving for a while. what are his cons because I only see the pros.
Actually play him.
I only survive at the moment. once I prestige all survivors and #########. It's Killer time
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Actually play him.Sir_Kazi said:@yeet said:
Sir_Kazi said:HOW does FREDDY need a buff? I don't understand. He can see you when in dream world. you have to fail a skill check so it shows where you are on map. his walk speed is ridiculous. what are you guys saying?
yep this one is going in to my cringe compliation
you talkin ######### without explaining why. I been surviving for a while. what are his cons because I only see the pros.
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i see no reason to debate with people who don't understand the game at allGlobal said:@yeet said:
Global said:@yeet said:
Global said:
@yeet said: Global said:
@Delfador said: Doc is far from being OP. His base kit is really really weak. His addons are good but doesn't make him very powerful imo. He is just fcking annoying.
Nurse is very powerful. I know a couple of people on this forum think that she is 'balanced' but I think she definitely needs nerfs. I don't have any problem with Hillbilly, Hag, Myers and Huntress. I think they are balanced. Clown doesn't have much pressure on the map but he is a really good chaser. I don't think he needs to be buffed. Doc's base kit can be buffed. If it is gonna happen, they can even nerf his addons. I wouldn't mind. Freddy, Leatherface, Pig, Trapper are the most desperate ones for buffs I think. Wraith got a buff but I didn't test him on the PTB so I have no idea.
I wish every killer was in the same level with billy because he is the most balanced one imo. I am talking about base kits though. I don't mind if they nerf killers' addons if they are gonna buff their base powers. billy is probably the most broken he can 1 hit any one and fly across the map with basically no negative effects towards him. He is also the easiest killer to play just get close and chainsaw. Hillbilly is the most balanced killer in the game.
@Delfador said: @Global said: @Bartex said: @SadonicShadow said: Killers that need to be buffed would include freddy, wraith, leatherdaddy, pig. I don't think any killer needs to be nerfed tho. I know alot of people advocate for the nurse to be gutted but she is the only killer that can stand a chance against swf death squads and succeed. She translates player skill and experience into real performance that you can see. Nurse as is, is perfectly fine at base. Her addon need to be nerfed/reworked. 4 and 5 blinks should not be a thing since it eliminates almost all counter play for the survivors. nurse is not the only one that can stand, i've played some tournaments, and nurse main killed only one survivor, when the hillbilly main killed full team ;v Because billy is easy to play skill takes actual skill and no im not a survivor main i am a killer main so have fun coming up with an arguement other than "HA RANK 27 SURVIVOR MAIN GIT GUD"
There is not much thing a billy can do if he faces good survivors. He can be easily looped. Yes he can chainsaw people easily but you have your tools to fight him. 'If he gets close, he can chainsaw'. Don't let him get close then? 'One way or another he will get close I can't avoid him 5 gens'. True but we also need to remember that you are not the only target there. He needs to do that multiple times. This is not a 1v1 game. As a survivor, you are not as powerful as the killer. At least you shouldn't be.
Being an easy killer or a hard killer is not related to being OP. Nurse can be the easiest killer or the hardest one, it doesn't matter. She is broken, billy is not. @yeet @Delfador Every killer needs to chase someone multiple times even nurse has to do it multiple times hell i find fighting her easier than billy because once you break line of sight with her just make her think you are going one way when your not simple. He has no draw back to one of the most powerful abilities in the game which is to cut the chase in half. He has immense map pressure and can instantly get to one side of the map to another better than nurse ever can. Yea being an easy killer doesnt make you op but if the easy killer has an extremely powerful ability it does because the more powerful the ability the harder to play the killer it should be. "There is not much thing a billy can do if he faces good survivors." I dont know what you mean here? That he needs his ability to fight the good survivors but in that case so does nurse so how would she deserve a nerf anymore than billy? why does he need a drawback?
billy is fine (You) just need to get good
How does what i say mean i should get good? xD i said he is easy to play doesnt that mean i am already good with him? and everything i said is why he needs a nerf read it before coming up with playground insults unless they are all you have
Every killer should be as powerful as billy, not the other way round 🙂
That has nothing to do with what i said so clearly you have nothing to say thanks for the debate.
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Your own misconceptions about what is happening in the video =/= a problemNessyJesty said:@yeet said:
NessyJesty said:@yeet said:
NessyJesty said:
@yeet said: NessyJesty said:
@yeet said: there is no auto aim, only an animation correction AFTER a hit has been registered
yeah pretty sure the devs know a lot more about their own game then you do! Clearly you don't considering they asking for feedback considering the fact you just jumping on the fanboy train to glory hole town I did give a genuine feedback everyone that i played with my friends and randoms have said the killers have an easy time with junge hard to escape the swing considering it glides to us locks on like auto aim so no mouse movement needed So yeah i am pretty sure i know the balance is not in this game and i am sure that i know way more about why the killers think the survivors are privileged and survivors think the same I played since the beta and i had fun because i found the perks was limited and when the fuil release game came their balance on perks are very questionable to say the least You could actually ######### about survivors being op or killers in the END both sides have OP perks and i think the game would benefit a few changes
your own misconceptions about mechanics are not genuine feedback
But your blindess is
"Blindess" or actual knowledge about how the game mechanics actually work at a base level, something you seem to lack?
pretty sure if you're such an expert on the game mechanics and stuff like that why havnt you given feedback on why the game is "perfectly fine" when really the base game feels broken in general you seem to put alot of effort coming here trying to defend something that is proven broken on video people saying that miss a country mile hell even looks unappealing to play with the bugs and balance issues hell dude seems you just want my attention so bad when i am just stating the fact the game feels unbalanced with the lunge canglide around corners and such the nurse is one of the bad ones with the auto aim as i call it,
Sue me for explainiing and showing the problem and hell if you want i can give you a full list of things i think are really unbalanced and unfun for everyone
the only thing i see is lag/latency and unless the devs hire god himself you cannot fix lag/latency
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Every killer should be as powerful as billy, not the other way round 🙂Global said:@yeet said:
Global said:@yeet said:
Global said:
@Delfador said: Doc is far from being OP. His base kit is really really weak. His addons are good but doesn't make him very powerful imo. He is just fcking annoying.
Nurse is very powerful. I know a couple of people on this forum think that she is 'balanced' but I think she definitely needs nerfs. I don't have any problem with Hillbilly, Hag, Myers and Huntress. I think they are balanced. Clown doesn't have much pressure on the map but he is a really good chaser. I don't think he needs to be buffed. Doc's base kit can be buffed. If it is gonna happen, they can even nerf his addons. I wouldn't mind. Freddy, Leatherface, Pig, Trapper are the most desperate ones for buffs I think. Wraith got a buff but I didn't test him on the PTB so I have no idea.
I wish every killer was in the same level with billy because he is the most balanced one imo. I am talking about base kits though. I don't mind if they nerf killers' addons if they are gonna buff their base powers. billy is probably the most broken he can 1 hit any one and fly across the map with basically no negative effects towards him. He is also the easiest killer to play just get close and chainsaw. Hillbilly is the most balanced killer in the game.
@Delfador said:
@Global said:
@Bartex said:
@SadonicShadow said:
Killers that need to be buffed would include freddy, wraith, leatherdaddy, pig. I don't think any killer needs to be nerfed tho. I know alot of people advocate for the nurse to be gutted but she is the only killer that can stand a chance against swf death squads and succeed. She translates player skill and experience into real performance that you can see. Nurse as is, is perfectly fine at base. Her addon need to be nerfed/reworked. 4 and 5 blinks should not be a thing since it eliminates almost all counter play for the survivors.
nurse is not the only one that can stand, i've played some tournaments, and nurse main killed only one survivor, when the hillbilly main killed full team ;v
Because billy is easy to play skill takes actual skill and no im not a survivor main i am a killer main so have fun coming up with an arguement other than "HA RANK 27 SURVIVOR MAIN GIT GUD"
There is not much thing a billy can do if he faces good survivors. He can be easily looped. Yes he can chainsaw people easily but you have your tools to fight him. 'If he gets close, he can chainsaw'. Don't let him get close then? 'One way or another he will get close I can't avoid him 5 gens'. True but we also need to remember that you are not the only target there. He needs to do that multiple times. This is not a 1v1 game. As a survivor, you are not as powerful as the killer. At least you shouldn't be.
Being an easy killer or a hard killer is not related to being OP. Nurse can be the easiest killer or the hardest one, it doesn't matter. She is broken, billy is not.
@yeet @Delfador Every killer needs to chase someone multiple times even nurse has to do it multiple times hell i find fighting her easier than billy because once you break line of sight with her just make her think you are going one way when your not simple. He has no draw back to one of the most powerful abilities in the game which is to cut the chase in half. He has immense map pressure and can instantly get to one side of the map to another better than nurse ever can. Yea being an easy killer doesnt make you op but if the easy killer has an extremely powerful ability it does because the more powerful the ability the harder to play the killer it should be. "There is not much thing a billy can do if he faces good survivors." I dont know what you mean here? That he needs his ability to fight the good survivors but in that case so does nurse so how would she deserve a nerf anymore than billy?
why does he need a drawback?
billy is fine (You) just need to get goodHow does what i say mean i should get good? xD i said he is easy to play doesnt that mean i am already good with him? and everything i said is why he needs a nerf read it before coming up with playground insults unless they are all you have
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"Blindess" or actual knowledge about how the game mechanics actually work at a base level, something you seem to lack?NessyJesty said:@yeet said:
NessyJesty said:@yeet said:
NessyJesty said:
@yeet said: there is no auto aim, only an animation correction AFTER a hit has been registered
yeah pretty sure the devs know a lot more about their own game then you do!
Clearly you don't considering they asking for feedback considering the fact you just jumping on the fanboy train to glory hole town
I did give a genuine feedback everyone that i played with my friends and randoms have said the killers have an easy time with junge hard to escape the swing considering it glides to us locks on like auto aim so no mouse movement needed
So yeah i am pretty sure i know the balance is not in this game and i am sure that i know way more about why the killers think the survivors are privileged and survivors think the same
I played since the beta and i had fun because i found the perks was limited and when the fuil release game came their balance on perks are very questionable to say the least
You could actually ######### about survivors being op or killers in the END both sides have OP perks and i think the game would benefit a few changes
your own misconceptions about mechanics are not genuine feedback
But your blindess is
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yep this one is going in to my cringe compliationSir_Kazi said:HOW does FREDDY need a buff? I don't understand. He can see you when in dream world. you have to fail a skill check so it shows where you are on map. his walk speed is ridiculous. what are you guys saying?
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why does he need a drawback?Global said:@yeet said:
Global said:@Delfador said:
Doc is far from being OP. His base kit is really really weak. His addons are good but doesn't make him very powerful imo. He is just fcking annoying.
Nurse is very powerful. I know a couple of people on this forum think that she is 'balanced' but I think she definitely needs nerfs. I don't have any problem with Hillbilly, Hag, Myers and Huntress. I think they are balanced. Clown doesn't have much pressure on the map but he is a really good chaser. I don't think he needs to be buffed. Doc's base kit can be buffed. If it is gonna happen, they can even nerf his addons. I wouldn't mind. Freddy, Leatherface, Pig, Trapper are the most desperate ones for buffs I think. Wraith got a buff but I didn't test him on the PTB so I have no idea.
I wish every killer was in the same level with billy because he is the most balanced one imo. I am talking about base kits though. I don't mind if they nerf killers' addons if they are gonna buff their base powers.
billy is probably the most broken he can 1 hit any one and fly across the map with basically no negative effects towards him. He is also the easiest killer to play just get close and chainsaw.
Hillbilly is the most balanced killer in the game.
@Delfador said:
@Global said:
@Bartex said:
@SadonicShadow said:
Killers that need to be buffed would include freddy, wraith, leatherdaddy, pig. I don't think any killer needs to be nerfed tho. I know alot of people advocate for the nurse to be gutted but she is the only killer that can stand a chance against swf death squads and succeed. She translates player skill and experience into real performance that you can see. Nurse as is, is perfectly fine at base. Her addon need to be nerfed/reworked. 4 and 5 blinks should not be a thing since it eliminates almost all counter play for the survivors.nurse is not the only one that can stand, i've played some tournaments, and nurse main killed only one survivor, when the hillbilly main killed full team ;v
Because billy is easy to play skill takes actual skill and no im not a survivor main i am a killer main so have fun coming up with an arguement other than "HA RANK 27 SURVIVOR MAIN GIT GUD"
There is not much thing a billy can do if he faces good survivors. He can be easily looped.
Yes he can chainsaw people easily but you have your tools to fight him. 'If he gets close, he can chainsaw'. Don't let him get close then?
'One way or another he will get close I can't avoid him 5 gens'. True but we also need to remember that you are not the only target there. He needs to do that multiple times. This is not a 1v1 game. As a survivor, you are not as powerful as the killer. At least you shouldn't be.
Being an easy killer or a hard killer is not related to being OP. Nurse can be the easiest killer or the hardest one, it doesn't matter. She is broken, billy is not.
@yeet @Delfador Every killer needs to chase someone multiple times even nurse has to do it multiple times hell i find fighting her easier than billy because once you break line of sight with her just make her think you are going one way when your not simple. He has no draw back to one of the most powerful abilities in the game which is to cut the chase in half. He has immense map pressure and can instantly get to one side of the map to another better than nurse ever can. Yea being an easy killer doesnt make you op but if the easy killer has an extremely powerful ability it does because the more powerful the ability the harder to play the killer it should be. "There is not much thing a billy can do if he faces good survivors." I dont know what you mean here? That he needs his ability to fight the good survivors but in that case so does nurse so how would she deserve a nerf anymore than billy?
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your own misconceptions about mechanics are not genuine feedbackNessyJesty said:Clearly you don't considering they asking for feedback considering the fact you just jumping on the fanboy train to glory hole town
I did give a genuine feedback everyone that i played with my friends and randoms have said the killers have an easy time with junge hard to escape the swing considering it glides to us locks on like auto aim so no mouse movement needed
So yeah i am pretty sure i know the balance is not in this game and i am sure that i know way more about why the killers think the survivors are privileged and survivors think the same
I played since the beta and i had fun because i found the perks was limited and when the fuil release game came their balance on perks are very questionable to say the least
You could actually ######### about survivors being op or killers in the END both sides have OP perks and i think the game would benefit a few changes
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yeah pretty sure the devs know a lot more about their own game then you do!NessyJesty said:@yeet said:
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we call that one the "survivor main classic"ShrimpTwiggs said:The Hillbilly is arguably one of the most balanced of the killers. Instead of demanding that his ability be nerfed, how about you try to learn to play against him?
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there is no auto aim, only an animation correction AFTER a hit has been registered
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Thana is nothing more than a placebo, it does basically nothing
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Hillbilly is the most balanced killer in the game.Global said:@Delfador said:
Doc is far from being OP. His base kit is really really weak. His addons are good but doesn't make him very powerful imo. He is just fcking annoying.Nurse is very powerful. I know a couple of people on this forum think that she is 'balanced' but I think she definitely needs nerfs.
I don't have any problem with Hillbilly, Hag, Myers and Huntress. I think they are balanced.
Clown doesn't have much pressure on the map but he is a really good chaser. I don't think he needs to be buffed.
Doc's base kit can be buffed. If it is gonna happen, they can even nerf his addons. I wouldn't mind.
Freddy, Leatherface, Pig, Trapper are the most desperate ones for buffs I think.
Wraith got a buff but I didn't test him on the PTB so I have no idea.
I wish every killer was in the same level with billy because he is the most balanced one imo. I am talking about base kits though. I don't mind if they nerf killers' addons if they are gonna buff their base powers.
billy is probably the most broken he can 1 hit any one and fly across the map with basically no negative effects towards him. He is also the easiest killer to play just get close and chainsaw.
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"if I don't do it nobody else does"
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crybaby survivors just use it to block people who beat them
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@BLUE_APE said:
@yeet said:
DS should never have been put in the game in the first placeWell then the halloween DLC shouldn't exist because I wouldn't be playing this game.
I honestly played this game because of Laurie (Not the perk to be honest)
It needs a fair nerf is all, but knowing a lot of other people, they probably still going to complain.the nerf it is getting is a fair nerf, you should not get off the killers shoulder for free.
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no it just needs to show you when you are the right distance like devour hope
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tldr;
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@redsopine1 said:
It was a sfw teameven more boosted than usual then
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@ZombieGenesis said:
Survivors are really digging deep to try and stop any and all killer buffs, huh? Now Freddy is an OP R1 killing machine? I just don't know about this community any more.they're either being intentionally disingenuous (most likely) or are huffing paint thinner
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@Killmaster said:
@yeet said:
No.
all your ideas are frankly moronic, get better as a survivor before making another thread please.Always killers crying since they can't play without a certain perk, as if the game suddenly becomes unplayable without BBQ and Franklins, try getting gud without them for a change? What I love about my suggetions is that it doesn't matter what you say every post calling me a "moron" or to get gud keeps it on the frontpage longer solidifying that I am correct that a certain perk needs balancing heightening the chances of a dev seeing it, and if a dev does see it, test it, realizes that my idea may actually be a balanced change and go through with it in the end, your tears and salt with give me life fuel. In the end I am the killer of overpowered killers, food for thought, no?
yep this ones going in my cringe compilation
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doesn't mean much, most rank 1s are super boosted now days
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@powerbats said:
@yeet said:
@powerbats said:
For most people he's bad, but for those that will dedicate the time to playing him and mastering his full potential he does pretty good at rank 1. He's like Nurse only he's way less forgiving of mistakes on your parts as a killer.lmao there's nothing to "master" about him
he's a standard M1 killer who has to wait 7 seconds to hit anyone
he's garbage and you'd be better off playing any other killerSo he has to wait 7 seconds to hit someone, how's that any different than a killer having to chase someone for 7 seconds if not more to get them? Since once they're in the dream world if eh's running a reduced skill checks/longer timers addons they're screwed. They either have to find someone to get them out or find a gen and hope he doesn't come after them.
If he's such garbage why do so many rank 1 killers play him and get 4ks pretty consistently with him?
everything freddy does doctor does better.
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@powerbats said:
For most people he's bad, but for those that will dedicate the time to playing him and mastering his full potential he does pretty good at rank 1. He's like Nurse only he's way less forgiving of mistakes on your parts as a killer.lmao there's nothing to "master" about him
he's a standard M1 killer who has to wait 7 seconds to hit anyone
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balanced lithe hard
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@Plippy said:
I'm always hyped for new stuff. The new killer looks interesting to play and scary to play against so I'm looking forward to it.it's probably not going to be very often that you play against her
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@KiraElijah said:
Who lol’d me, I’m seriousking he's the worst killer in the game second only to the spirit
