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The Chili's, the Beast Mark's, and Primer Bulb. Pretty much everything else is bad.
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@BlightedDolphin said:
Ghostface. The stalking speed add on is one of his best and it’s a brown add on.
I also like to use his power recovery (also brown).
Remember back when his power recovery was 30 seconds and you had to use a green add on just to knock it down to 24 seconds? Well now with a BROWN add on it only take 14 seconds!
Agreed. Ghostie has some nice browns.
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@ReikoMori said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3461551#Comment_3461551
There are strong killers there are fun killers, but there aren't many Strong AND Fun killers. It's about both of those traits being in just the right balance. Wesker is decently strong while also being very fun. He's got a low barrier of entry because his power isn't overly complicated nor is stopped dead in its tracks by it's counter mechanic. People greatly underestimate the feeling of just being able to use your power and see something cool happen. He has enough mobility that chases are interesting and enough perk synergy you can run a lot of different builds on him, but he isn't super reliant on a specific addon pair or set of maps.
He allows the average player to just play the game without onboarding a ton extra stress. A lot of the other fun to play killers have the issue of being fundamentally flawed or too weak to reliably keep up with the game unless you stack the deck in your favor. Alot of the strong killers are mechanically difficult to get into and actually aren't that fun. Sure you'll have a higher win percentage, but along the way you're more likely to burn out. Wesker hit the sweet spot though where you get to be as strong as you are fun.
Spirit and Oni are easy to play and quite strong.
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Welcome to every DbD anniversary sadly.
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@squbax said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3461400#Comment_3461400
I mean then you (or rather BHVR) should give a reason for people to play other killers, for example convince someone to play a meme character like pig or freddy, there is absolutelly zero reason to play some of the characters in the roster atm.
There are plenty of strong killers. There are plenty of fun killers. For whatever reason Wesker appeals to the sweat lords.
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Well there goes our reprieve. Rip.
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It's impossible to prove you wrong. It's entirely subjective.
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@Skill_issue said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3456874#Comment_3456874
so people bought the twins and skull merchant for the lore?
lore must be why shirtless male viggo and david are so popular ^_^
I didn't say that. My post was responding to how someone can have an issue with a survivor.
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I get the frustration but damn. There are so many drama queens in this thread.
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Nobody is going to use it to gen rush. The buff is laughable.
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I mean he's boring to face. Largely due to seeing him every 3rd game. So honestly I can see why people would celebrate him being gone for a bit.
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@Mockingjay_S451 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3439226#Comment_3439226
How in the world could you have an issue with a survivor character? They are only a placeholder for perks. Are you saying you just think she looks terrible?
SM, sure. Whilst killers can also use any perks they have a unique power you can think is terrible, so that is understandable.
But having an issue with a Survivor, which is basically just a skin… hmmmm…
You do realize that survivors have lore right?
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@Blinckx said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3454553#Comment_3454553
Exactly, in the end Friday the 13th turned out in "Let's Kill Jason" , people were loggin in just to hunt down Jason instead of..well..trying to escape and survive
Me and a couple of friends did that for a while. I'd say we racked up kills into the triple digits. That said a competent Jason could easily defeat most kill squads.
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I've been on a break so I can't speak to this. All I can add is the chapter didn't make me want to play.
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I feel like it'll be very healthy for DbD. When people burn out on DbD they can play TCM for a while. Then when the TCM burnout hits back to DbD they go.
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@KenwanObinobi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3450102#Comment_3450102
Everything that is busted need to be adressed.
It is not because we see her 5% of the time that it is fine if those 5% are jsut unwinnable trials.
Eventually yes. Unfortunately priorities have to be made. Nurse is busted but Blight needs looked at more.
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3449955#Comment_3449955
Just because something is rare, or they have to "bring the best they can" or because not every survivor is going to run this stuff, doesn't mean it isn't a problem. I'm guessing you also think nurse should be nerfed?
https://clips.twitch.tv/AwkwardMildFerretPipeHype-0ehry4t4zExHh7Bo
I mention it being uncommon because it's silly to not look at how abuseable something is. To your point Nurse is still extremely busted but given she also isn't that common I don't think she needs addressing.
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3449679#Comment_3449679
So 4 survivors being able to knock 20 seconds off a gen each (more with perks), this is excluding BnP btw. This is totally fine. But killers having a perk that regresses a gen by 13 seconds when they hook a survivor is a huge problem?
Firstly that is an edge case scenario. One that requires every survivor to bring the best toolboxes they can. Which in turn means no flashlights or medkits. Giving the killer advantages in other areas.
Secondly I never said regression perks didn't need a look. They very well may need to be buffed a bit. I haven't had issues but my experience isn't the only one.
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@Xernoton said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3449672#Comment_3449672
That's like saying infinite aura reading won't help in chase.
The chase becomes much easier with WoO. That isn't necessarily a bad thing but it is something that should be considered.
I didn't say it didn't make it easier. All I'm saying is if you don't know how to use the information it's not going to help that much.
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@Reinami said:
The same people who think toolboxes are fine when they knock 20 seconds of repair time of a gen (potentially multiplied by 4 survivors, or more with perks), are the same people who think the killer having a perk that can regress a gen by 13 seconds when they hook a survivor is a huge problem.
https://clips.twitch.tv/CrackyAnimatedGerbilRiPepperonis-sWkeCzPcBq0D_gBF
Toolboxes are fine. BnP's not so much.
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Definitely an over reaction on their part. That said ######### that build. I hate it so much.
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@Rogue11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3449667#Comment_3449667
"Why nerf it to begin with?"
Because knowing where every map resource is at all times is a massive advantage.
Because as I said before, the game isn't balanced around running optimally every chase.
Because it incentivises braindead hold W chases instead of taking full advantage of whatever tiles are closest to you. Without GPS guiding you to the next resource, you have to weigh the risks of leaving your current tile where you know you have something to work with vs the next tile that could have nothing. You might even have to consider taking a few seconds to check your surrounding tiles instead of immediately slamming the closest gen.
Having information isn't making chases brain dead. All the information in the world is meaningless if you don't know how to use it.
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@Nebula said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3449588#Comment_3449588
Why do you think that extra exposure will not translate into financial success? That’s basic business strategy. It’s the most exposure DbD has gotten on social media since RE, that’s already a win in itself.
It's not the same as landing a large IP like RE or any other horror IP. Those all bring a fanbase with them. Or at the least expose their fanbase to DbD. While NC surely has his fans I'm doubtful they'll purchase the game because of his involvement. Given how old DbD is I doubt the added exposure will reach enough people to spark that much interest. At best it might bring some people who check out the game.
@Smoe said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3449588#Comment_3449588
I'd argue that It does make sense to have him within the game as the lore does support such inclusion since people from all over the omniverse gets taken into the trials, including people from our own world. (Cote confirmed this himself.)
Also as Shroompy mentioned above in the thread, if Tony Hawk's name wasn't tied to Tony Hawk's Pro-Skater, we would have gotten a real life Survivor much earlier in the game's lifetime.
To each their own. I firmly believe any additions that aren't original BHVR works should come from horror IP's. This one just feels too weird too me.
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@Nebula said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3449482#Comment_3449482
You said you hated it and that he’s privileged for being able to get in the game. You may not have tried to come off like it but your wording makes it seem like your hating pretty hard for something that’s a big win for the game.
It being a big win is debatable. To me it feels weird and doesn't really make sense within the game. Yes it'll bring extra exposure but that won't necessarily translate into a financial win for BHVR nor a positive for the playerbase.
Having now watched the trailer I'm even less convinced this is a win then I already was.
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@Huge_Bush said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3449170#Comment_3449170
Survivors aren’t supposed to be able to counter every thing a killer can do one for one. Killer is supposed to have an advantage. Choosing which perks you equip isn’t supposed to be easy. You have to put thought into what you think is more important to use in order to counter things the killer may use or do. If someone chooses something over Unbreakable, then that tells me getting Slugged isn’t that much of a problem.
Also, survivors are a team. They can compensate for not having certain perks by working together. You don’t have to bring in a healing perk to heal each other and you don’t have to bring in Unbreakable if you don’t group up and let the killer slug you all at the same time.
The game shouldn’t punish killers for playing well.
My point is you can't say just bring X perk to counter this thing that may happen and call it a fix. That's not good game design.
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@Huge_Bush said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3448751#Comment_3448751
Imagine having to not group together and play well or entering a match equipped to counter a play style one dislikes. Disgusting!
It's impossible to bring perks to counter everything players don't like. If you could pick yourself up multiple times it would be too much but a single use version wouldn't have been bad.
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@Sava18 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3447650#Comment_3447650
Distortion, lucky break, old iron will and shadow step are probably the worst designed perks in the game. Anything that inhibits chase with no skill involved is just bad for the gameplay loop.
So survivors aren't supposed too loop the killer. They aren't supposed to hold w. Now they aren't allowed to hide. What exactly are they allowed to do?
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@Sava18 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/378013/didnt-they-say-barbecue-would-disappear
BBQ really isn't that good, it's just players like me want direction without thinking after hooking. If I start seeing distortion in my games on more than one survivor consistently, then I will start tunneling for the first time in a year in half because you have chose a selfish perk.
I am a relatively lax killer but if I am threatening to tunnel, who knows what other players will do. Idk know what I am talking about because I'll get bored of tunneling in like 2 games anyway.
Distortion is simply top 3 worse survivor perk design period. The fact that I can run c21 on blight and constantly prock it without getting feedback means the perk is far too overtuned. No amount of perks or add-ons for other killers will allow them to push through the tokens if c21 blight can't.
So they bring a perk that could be entirely useless and it's selfish? Will you also complain if people start to play around Bbq again?
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There is a GFM for his final experiences. I would link it here for those able/willing to donate but I'm not sure if the forum rules would allow it.
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1 in 20 chance or so verse a 1 in 3.
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Naymeti is the only person I see running it. The healing nerf kinda killed what use it had.
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Careful you'll get the three Dull Merchant mains in here telling you how amazing she is.
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If I remember correctly it has the second highest kill rate. We can debate the various points of the map that favor either side but in the end the results speak for themselves.
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@HugTheHag said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3440926#Comment_3440926
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3440998#Comment_3440998
Thank you both ! I'll definitely check those out !!
Np. I sadly don't have the skill or experience to give you direct advice.
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@Spare_Them_Mori_Me said:
Seems you're looking for discussion on this topic. Sorry all you got was a link.
Trapper main, so can't help, but good luck! Billy is so damn awesome to play against.
I'm not anywhere near a good enough Billy to give advice. The link to the guide is the best I can do to help.
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@Skill_issue said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3439226#Comment_3439226
how are they terrible characters? well skull merchant is op i guess depending on skill level but thalita?
Her lore is obnoxious.
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@dgbug said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3438479#Comment_3438479
You should probably stop going into forum posts just to get upset at people who like things you don't. It's kinda pathetic.
I'm not upset at anything. They asked which ones are worth it. I gave my answer.
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I'm legit fighting tears because of this news. I loved watching Puppers so much. I can only hope he's not in too much pain and will go peacefully.
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@Skill_issue said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3438479#Comment_3438479
what do you have against attractive females?
I have an issue with those two terrible characters.
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@DBDVulture said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3438470#Comment_3438470
Ghostface needs to be toned down if anything. He shouldn't have an addon that makes stalking 20% faster.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/9TYNLQJYB7HE/image.png
That's not what a brown addon should look like.
I disagree. I think most killers addons should be the best at brown and yellow, maybe up to green.
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@TBHartley said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3438464#Comment_3438464
Dumb? It's Five Nights at Freddy's lmao, it is popular with a LOT of people on the internet. If BHVR did a chapter off of it, they would be printing so much money lol.
It's also very unpopular with the current players base. The number of players they lose could easily dwarf the ones gained.
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@illNicola said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3438464#Comment_3438464
Springtrap would look great in dbd, whether you like FNAF or not it's undeniable how great Sprintrap would look in dbd (and don't tell me he's a robot rabbit because we have a pink elephant skin for the Clown and rabbits for Legion, which are from Silent hill but still they are rabbits).
Maybe you don't know the lore of Springtrap and that's why you don't see how well it would look on dbd, and no I won't tell you the lore of Sprintrap because I doubt the characters are enough for how long it is.
As I also told Pulsar, Stranger Things fans also spam everywhere that they want Stranger Things back on dbd, but they are fine while FNAF fans are not? No offense to Stranger Things fans, but spamming isn't good even if it's for Jason or Alien, who are very heavy icons
There are occasional threads hoping for a ST return. Not half the main page plastered with repeated threads form the same 4 people. Add to this ST was already part of the game and the two things are massively different.
As for how great you think it would look, I don't really care. It's a subpar franchise based on cheap jump scares. It may eventually make It's way into DbD but it certainly doesn't belong here.
@AGM said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3438464#Comment_3438464
Oh trust me I was being completely sarcastic. I actively don't want to see fnaf in DBD.
One can hope it will never happen.
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I got it on PS4 and PS5. Both times were down to dumb luck.
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Survivors aren't freaking out during nightfall. They're irritated that they can't see anything and by that godawful wailing.
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There's literally no reason to bother trying to P100 anyone. Especially not the trash you mentioned.
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@Yippiekiyah said:
The thing with perks like Scavenger, Built to last, streetwise its not necessarily the perks that are broken, its the toolboxes. Toolboxes shouldn't increase repair speed, they should do something else like stop gens regressing beyond a certain point or make skillcheck misses do less damage or repairs are silent, stuff like that.
So you want them to be completely useless.
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@DBDVulture said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/376896/stop-buffing-ghostface
Ghostface doesn't need a power cooldown buff.
He was overbuffed with his last change when you consider Michael. Why does Michael's power last a minute if GF's power does the same? What?
If anything GF probably needs to have like a 40 second expose as the 30 might have been too short but 60 is too long.
Also why does GF have those stupid white line marks when someone looks at him? Remove them.
Because Myers can down everyone with a single tier 3 pop. Of course he still needs a rework/a buff to his stalking.
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@illNicola said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3438177#Comment_3438177
Finally, I will never understand the unjustified hatred towards the FNAF fanbase.
My personal disdain for the franchise aside the fans themselves were insufferable. There was a time when they came here to spam threads about it.
@AGM said:
As much as I wish this would satisfy the fnafers, I know better... sigh.
The next killer is definitely Springtrap, for sure this time guys, all the signs are there!
I really hope they don't do something that dumb. Especially after calling the two coming licenses huge with a capital L.