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Yes they did, there was no giant outcry about the nurse till recently when a whole bunch of new players joined that whined and moan rather then learn to play the game.
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@Mister_xD said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/788108#Comment_788108
my argument is, that her power allows her to ignore any of the games mechanics that are ment to allow survivors to escape from a killer in chases, making it basically impossible to escape good nurses.
that is pretty much the definition of being "broken".
Multiple killers can do that, just not as well as the nurse can. The nurse is the slowest killer and gets fatigued giving survivors plenty of opportunity to escape.
You are not the developer you don't get to decide if something is broken purely because that's your opinion.
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As a survivor the worst thing thing to face is other survivors on European servers, nothing but potatoes in purple and red ranks
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On the positive side it does remove a hook from play unless it's basement hook
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Sound like now we're getting a nurse who is now even worse now then she was before they buffed her in the first place. Might as well just make it so she keeps falling through the floor again.
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@Mister_xD said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/787338#Comment_787338
i think we both know how ridiculous the argument "you will lose against a perfectly coordinated 4 man team with the strongest perks and items" is - that applies to everyone, including old nurse.
again: it takes you 3 seconds longer to catch someone, so instead of catching a survivor within 12 seconds, you'll spend 15 seconds now. huge.
she is still easily able to catch survivors 10 times faster than a Wraith could - and ppl still play Wraith in high ranks pretty efficiently i'd like to add.
not every team, heck not even 1 out of 10 teams is even near as good as you described them. you will still dominate ~9 out of 10 games with ease, there is no reason why that shouldnt be the case. and taking games as an example where literally no one stands a chance against is just ridiculous. this should be used as an argument to increase objective times and not to say killer XY is too weak.
for her add ons, hey you can actually use them now without completely screwing over your muscle memory. they are gimmicky and fun to use, so overall a nice improvement over the old ones.
i do agree that her red add ons are too weak though. like, remove 1 blink to get 105% mms and add 1 blink but not being able to blink through walls is... questionable. at best.
and no. devs are not "trying to kill her" and "only survivors are happy about it". devs are not biased towards one side. they rework all the OP stuff - which includes nurse. also, since you seem to allude to "only survivors being happy about that", i am a killer main and yet here i am, defending the nerf, because i look at the overall games health and not only on one side. i am not saying their timing is perfect, i do believe the big nerfs should only come after survivors are in a fair place and killers in general stand a good chance against them, but the nurse nerfs are certainly needed in the long run.
Your whole argument for being broken is that you dont like how the nurses power works therefore it's broken.
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/786499#Comment_786499
yup thats right but im not gonna run 2 perks that i already know gets me tunneled..do you think that i didnt try what you guys told me to?
really?
mkay guy keep talkin
Then you're doomed to remain a potato
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/786451#Comment_786451
IM not gonna keep running two perks together that get me tunneled to death lmfao.
######### is the point in that? LOL
No mither - unbreakable - self care and the rock perk is my meme build for a reason.
What was the point of coming back to the game at all?
"I only came back because I don't wanna be a complete potato when the event comes out."
Yet you're whole attitude is "I DC i really don't care who Im hurting at that point because I'd rather move on to a game that I could get actual points from."
You had a point when you said "Its a learing game, and you'll never learn NOR get BETTER if all you do is slug 4 people on the ground". The same thing applies to you and you won't get better unless you put the time in against ######### play styles.
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You also said that you haven't played in along time so to keep trying even if you're not getting away is still a good answer to get practise in after a long break
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@Herman_CMH said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/786344#Comment_786344
Yes, in white face, you were there?
Nope but i came across a person on ps4 playing Jake who decided to leave their team mate on the floor to bleed out while they hid in lockers waiting for them to die. I picked the meg up and let her wiggle out. Then we had ourselves a good old fashion noob hunt.
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Was it a Jake by any chance?
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Toxic is not getting your way because everyone else is toxic
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/786152#Comment_786152
Do you even read?
really do you?
Have you? You started an argument with everyone to deny what you've posted that you would rather DC then keep trying to counter it.
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Looks like they've DC'ed from their post just like their games because it hasn't gone their way.
For the people still reading we had this same argument not that long ago slugging was just replaced with camping or NOED. If you don't want killers to do something then actually do something about it. It's not going to change if all people do is make a post to complain about it and say i don't want to waste the perk slot on a what if & say it's easier to DC then attempt to counter, people will pick up on that. If you don't want a killer to do something stop rewarding them for it.
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"I DC i really don't care who Im hurting" you wrote that and that's what everyone is picking up. Doesn't matter how valid any point you make is going to be because you said you'd rather DC then attempt to do anything else. Yes it sucks that the killer sluggs 60 seconds into a match but if the survivors are just gonna DC rather then use the perks to counter it then why shouldn't they keep doing it.
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/786074#Comment_786074
nah im not saying that they can't slug.
Ive said it before IMO IMO!!! LEMME SAY THIS AGAIN IMO! its not worth it. I'd rather get more points. I think its a stupid tatic I'd rather get as many points as I possibly can SURVIVOR OR KILLER, If I lose or die so be it. But I'm not gonna spend my time on the ground once I get downed its stupid. Esp if there is 5 gens left there is so much more you could be doing as a killer than slugging someone then patrolling them.
Im so GLAD that this is flying over EVERY killer mains head. Seriously, But whatever yall keep slugging or wait theres a new term "snowballing" and see how quickly more people dc and how many people switch to killer..
I said it before with all the toxicity in this damn game and the groups and ######### the games gonna be dead..Content aint gonna matter. This was my to go to game no matter how bad is pissed me off..Now I can only stand playing it for an hour or so.
Have fun with it tho..lemme kno how many dcs everyone gets <3 :)
Why are you getting mad at everyone else when the way you wrote it down on the post sounds like you'd rather DC then attempt any kind of counter play.
Do you know how many posts come of people saying they face NOED every game and there is no counter and it should be removed. Then when people tell them to equip small game their response is don't want to use the counter perk on something that might happen even though they said it happens every game.
You need to rewrite your post because it sounds like those NOED post. Doesn't matter if you like slugging because it's a legitimate strategy. I don't like looping but you don't see me writing a post saying i DC when survivors loop because it's unfun.
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/786015#Comment_786015
I run no mither in my meme build. Seems to be the only time I get tunneled after that its just slugging if Im using a normal build. Yeah its a counter but I shouldn't have to use 2 perks that "might" help with it. Its either you get slugged til everyone is down/dead or you get tunneled to death off your hooks.
I miss the days where this game was actually fun, I only came back because I don't wanna be a complete potato when the event comes out.
So you'd rather not take perks that could help and just want to DC and complain about it? There are way to many broken loops points in this game and the only to counter them is to slug people.
Someone in the forum said recently that the game will die out if the devs keep making maps with only unsafe loops. when that is the survivors attitude is it any wonder killers slug
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/785960#Comment_785960
IM not talking about getting rid of ruin I can work through it. But it seems like I get the potato teammates that can't.
I'm talking about how killers CRY about dc'ing because it makes them lose points and how its not fair nor fun..But yet 8/10 games that I play killers do nothing but SLUG the second that they find someone.
I went a whole game on the ground because the nurse didn't want to pick me up..I was never hooked and seconds away from bleeding out so I just dc'd and yet I'm the one who was in the wrong.
Mkay, If killers want the DC's to stop then maybe they should change their game play JUST A BIT.
I don't slug when I play killer, Not at all..I either kill as many as I can OR i lose trying..Its a learing game, and you'll never learn NOR get BETTER if all you do is slug 4 people on the ground
Survivors might not like getting slugged, but i'm sure killers don't like getting their game derailed by 1 survivor running in a circle. Unbreakable and no mither can both counter slugging.
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That is not how every game is, totem placement rarely is that good to keep it concealed all game. Also if every killer brings ruin then bring small game it's not difficult
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Because a lot of the stuff people complain about isn't a balance issues but an experience/skill issues.
Your own opinion is a big issues saying you have experience there for it's a balance issue.
1) there's no ceiling on knowledge and experience
2) the game is constantly changing.
Just look at the number of DC's we get, people don't want to get better, they want it easy and to complain it's unbalanced when it's to hard.
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The nurse only has 2 blinks at base which get shorter with each one. Also when fatigue kicks in she forcible looks down at the ground.
I can just as easily ignore survivors defences with a shock from the doctor, bear trap from the trapper or phantasm trap from a hag, that is not unique to the nurse or even that over powered.
Also the nurse is the slowest killers, significantly by far and easily out runable when you break line of sight. Are you seriously saying you can't don't 2 blinks and outrun the nurse when she gets fatigued.
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I prefer a stealth approach myself as i believe the best way not to be downed by a killer is not to be seen by them. It's never 100% fool proof and bad luck eaves me exposed as i'm not great in the running and loops. However there are times when i'm the obsession and the killer has gotten no tokens to dying light or 1 when there is only 1 gen left.
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@Mister_xD said:
her basekit war and is broken. i dont see how anyone would be able to deny that, honestly...
but lets just turn the whole thing around:
the nurse nerf wasnt even that harsh, why are y'all complaining?
What about base nurse was so broken?
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@mutabletiger4 said:
The ability to blink through basically everything and travel the map quickly isn't strong? So what makes a strong killer?
You can't blink through everything or travel quickly around the map. You can blink through most things and travel short distances quickly
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I don't think they should touch the spirit either, make up for all the survivors that lied and complained that base nurse was broken and OP. if that was the case they wouldn't of had to buff her in the first place, right after i finished playing nurse is when they announced they were going to buff her and make so she doesn't fall through the floor anymore.
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@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/783616#Comment_783616
She was very good in high ranks as i said tho. I think we can all agree that a little fatigue nerf and the addon change would've been enough.
I can agree with that if it was only that
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/783614#Comment_783614
I can also run around a trash nurse with 3 blinks and then say she isn't S tier my friend.
But can you do it against a 5 blink nurse, i also didn't say she was trash i said she wasn't the be all end all of killers
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The nurse is good but she was never the S class tier survivors claimed she was they are just predictable and stupid and only know how to run in a circle. I've seen an omega blink nurse get her ass handed to her by all 4 of us not running loops.
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I much prefer to spread out the hooking's but sometimes you just really need to get rid of 1 person to take the pressure off.
Also you have people who go for a seni unsafe unhook and then use UE knowing that the killer will only be able to find/chase that one person.
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I don't ever see killers dc, survivors are almost every game.
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When i'm refilling my hatchet's as the huntress and find a survivor instead
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@dbizzle said:
reported for blocking cause 3 survivors ran in the same direction at the same time
Never been reported for that despite causing a 4 survivor pile up.
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I've told i've been reported for camping/tunnelling which 1 isn't reportable and 2 wasn't even doing it.
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Trapper needs to carry all of his traps on him from the start instead of having to go round picking them up.
Doctor needs a slight range extension on his power and remove the switching modes. If you press the attack button the second after the mode is switched he'll still do the attack from the previous state
Cannibal might need to be completely rebuilt to be buffed
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My mind went straight to the gutter reading the title
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@Liruliniel said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/779303#Comment_779303
You mean Smurfed her.
Yes, they gave her a right smurfing
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@Megaguardain said:
######### is a smurf?
Smurfs are little blue gnomes that absolutely rail the only female of the species
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I tend not to dodge unless i see some real bad pings. Although i can across a lobby where to people were called toxicnea & toxicmeg, i was not really in the mood to deal with that.
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Yeah i just keep on playing because that's how you learn and get better then expecting the game to give you an easy win.
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To all the people complaining about the delay... "Why don't you make your own Halloween event and update patch, with blackjack and hookers"
You all seem to think it's so easy
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For the most part i avoid tunnelling and camping, but it can't always be help
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Had a guy call me a noob when he literally tried to cheat and walk along the outside edge of a second floor area where she should even be able to get to.
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@antgnstea said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/776581#Comment_776581
Yeah, I know what you mean. That's one of the main reasons why i can't enjoy playing survivor anymore. I can't even count how many times I died on hook just because no one would bother to come and save me.
Yeah i lead a pig on such a long chase while still having a bear trap on that everyone else was able to remove theirs and do a gen and i was just left to die on my second hook.
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Killer don't get the crow notification until they have multiple crows around them. So unless you happen to be right next to them to hear the 1 crow it's hard to find them.
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@PolarBear said:
Honestly, if the killer slugs me for the 4k, I'd rather the last guy didn't pick me up. No reason, higher chance the killer will find them if they do.
I wasn't going for the 4k, and even after i getting the other person up he still chose to do nothing and just hide. The second it became obvious he wasn't gonna get an easy hatch escape he DC'd
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@antgnstea said:
Maybe hook the one you caught without slugging and go close hatch. If the game ended quickly then ended quickly. It's not gonna make a difference "letting them" get few more points. Just end it to prevent wasting time for everyone.
It wasn't a trap or even about getting 4k, i was letting then have a fighting chance. I've seen to many lazy survivors lately that will just hide while i'm the one doing all the work to try and score a win for the team.
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I don't get the whole keep a list although i keep reporting the same people for DCing. No list i've just done it enough times to remember
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I play on ps4 as well and on the saturday just gone 99% of the games i played throughout the day had killer tunnel me specifically. It wasn't even like they were getting easy downs either with a couple of them doing some really Hardcore tunnelling.
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I switch when i hit P3, so far i've done, trapper, wraith, billy, nurse, shape, cannibal & currently working my way through the doctor
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@djsponge10 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/773641#Comment_773641
Sorry for not using your pronouns. Lmao
Everything you listed is stuff i don't do.