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Just want my soul guard perk icon
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@FogLurker said:
As a killer, I do no such thing to Lisa players. I had one match where a survivor was being toxic in the end game chat in all caps because I was playing as Pyramid Head. The only reason from what I could tell was because I paid for PH and I guess he doesn't like the Silent Hill patch; the struggles of being a broke moron, I guess.
Yeah haha I mean look at everyone whos mad at Lisa in this forum post
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@SpaceCoconut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1365388#Comment_1365388
They say the same thing about map fixes, sound fixes, general balance, perk changes, and literally every other thing players request on a regular basis.
Except theres kind of a global pandemic going on so voice acting is incredibly hard especially on a separate licensed character
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@SpaceCoconut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1365133#Comment_1365133
You're projecting.
If you take a moment from your own drowning situation and think about the implications of the statement you'll find where its validity lies.
Try thinking about it this way:
A company creates a product. They put less effort into this product as other products they've created but charge a higher price by labeling it as a premium item.
IF the item sells like crazy they'll continue to create subpar products in the future since it took less effort to create.
IF the item doesn't sell well, perhaps the company will improve the quality of such "legendary" products in the future.
See the point now?
If you don't see it, ignore it, or otherwise don't care there's no hope for you as a consumer and you'll continue to be fleeced by these sorts of marketing tactics.
A _____ and their money are soon parted afterall.
They literally said they were unable to give her a voice but its something they want to start doing
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I think this is a bug with all killers cause its been happening to me a lot recently
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@samination said:
Imagine someone actually tying this.
Are you referring to my post or referring to people tunneling Lisa players?
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@SketchyPenguin said:
The Toxicity for the Lisa skin will die soon eventually.
Many people had high expectations since the devs stated it's a Legendary skin, without describing the difference to a very rare skin e.g. The only thing we knew about it was that it would be a new character model with new animations and to me personally the skin matched the description. The Lisa skin is a new character model, despite some comments saying she just looks like a Lisa Cosplay for Cheryl and she has new idle animations in the lobby.
They never said, she would get lore or an own voice actor. If stated otherwise please inform me. To me, personally, the term Legendary in any game that uses a real-life currency system is a cash grab unless you're really invested into the item. I think that those people had a different description in mind based on other games that offer Legendary items/skins.
Anyone who wants to play Lisa, whether they're a hardcore Silent Hill Fan, a collector that wants to own every cosmetic in-game or just likes the aesthetic of her, has the right to play her and shouldn't be the target of some toxic players that think that the devs monitor every match or that it is a protest against this philosophy.
Here's a sincere question: How will the devs know that players who use Lisa are the main target for mori's?
I, personally will wait, for a sale to get her cheaper, because I can't bring myself up to invest almost 15€ for a skin. (I always debate with myself when I really want an AC only skin and I will almost always wait for a sale). We also have to bring Konami into this game. They're known for two things.
- They rarely share licenses
- They like money so much that many people refer to them as Komoney.
I also play Yu-Gi-Oh! in my freetime and you can really see their profit-thinking by printing good and competitive cards in a tinier amount than others to earn more money by selling their products. Therefore I could really believe that BHVR had a share-agreement with much more profit to Konami than any of their licenses before (I guess Freddy is a close 2nd).
To come back to the topic:
There were so many skins that got tunneled too in the past/still are, to state some (MY OPINION, which I saw in-game):
- Bunny Feng - Sunglasses Steve - Neon Nea (The one with the blue sweater) - Deathgarden Meg
TD:LR
If you read all of it, thank you very much for the time that you invested. Sorry for my English, if it was difficult to read.
In conclusion, if you want to play with any skins, play it. Everyone should be able to enjoy the game in their liking. Killer Mains that want to tunnel and Mori Lisa's have now an "official" reason to tunnel survivors and use moris. Even though many of them already did it before. Don't let those salty players ruin your fun. As a 50/50 player, I will respect any player no matter the skin. BUT if you show toxic behaviour in-game you will for sure die on hook no matter what.
The words of a New-Year Min
I read it all and your english is great! People like you are so sweet like omg you guys actually cheered me up and made me not regret purchasing it :')
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@Seegson said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1363024#Comment_1363024
Maybe if survivors don't have headphones or eyes it may give you some hits. Nearly every killer breathes, screeches, stompes, growls, or has other audio clues that are easy to hear without terror radius. So oblivious is a lackluster mechanic that works only at lower/mid tier of play
You're HIGHLY underestimating oblivious and stealth play.
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@Ihatelife said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1362724#Comment_1362724
Maybe because Lisa was attending to Midwich in her young age OR maybe she is devs favourite character from series. 😍
Well if she is that makes 2 of us! Im happy either way :)
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@Mooks said:
I am pretty sure there will be more cosmetics including Legendary skins of Silent Hill in the future. Just looking at the way they managed Stranger Things cosmetics shows they don’t want to just put out everything at once.
Yeah just puttin up forum posts to show the devs we like her :)
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
$40.
A small price to pay for Maria
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Yeah especially cause Maria's overall theme and design would fit really well especially with Cheryl's perks.
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@tixerp said:
Yesssss. Would make a lot of sense too. Dunno why they chose Lisa instead of Maria.
Well personally im glad they chose Lisa at first! Now they both can be here!
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
It's easy.
You're supporting a character players have an issue with. You're funding bad habits.
(from what I read on the forums, don't blame me for it, I'm just stating it)
Well they should get over it personally I don't like Zarina, Adam, Ash, Tapp, or Bill but you don't see me tunneling or camping them.
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@darktrix said:
The persecution will make your stronger in the end until those who play Lisa are god survivors.
Yup! Lisa players will be top tier!
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@TheUnforgiven97 said:
For the people arguing "It's a cheap cash grab! She doesn't even have a different voice" like...you do realise most of the voices in the game are from the Dev Team? They don't hire actors for grunts and screams. Besides you'd just complain how annoying their voice is and you want another one. It's a lose lose. Nobody is going to be completely happy.
THIS!!!!! Like Cheryl and Nancy literally have the same voices so do Adam and Tapp.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1362118#Comment_1362118
So the only hope for killer -- the power role, is to hope the survivor eventually makes a mistake? What compelling gameplay. Very balanced that is. :/
I don't think you are understanding the problem. Having to stick to one floor or perform a 3-gen strat still means the map design is awful. It's not even just awful for killers either. It's equally as bad from the survivor's perspective as well. There is only two safe pallets in the entire map. The rest of them are terribly unsafe. The best strategy is to literally just use the hallways and hold Shift + W. That isn't very engaging or fun.
If you're a good survivor you can loop them well. theres only 2 truly unsafe pallets
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@USELESS said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1362038#Comment_1362038
1- What is this grandma? Wonder woman?
2- Ma man here is Brazil, everything gets wrongs pretty fast
Her names Lois Pearson! She endured a lot at the hands of her attacker who bought a property in the countryside solely to enact this torture on her but her strong will, intelligence, and pure mental strength is what kept her going.
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@USELESS said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1362023#Comment_1362023
If you got kidnapped you got kidnapped, there is nothing you can do
I mean if a 68 year old woman can survive and escape her kidnapper after he burns her house down, puts her up on a deer skinning device for hours, beats her, does the worst possible things, then come out okay I think anyone else can as long as you have belief, hope, and strength to survive said situation.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
The game is fun and playable IMO and I enjoy playing as killer and survivor (usually, sometimes solo can be a bit cumbersome).
For every past killer nerf there's a present survivor nerf (except nurse, she didn't deserve that). I'm sure I could think of 5 things more unfortuantely that choosing to play killer:
-Dying
-Your family dying
-Being kidnapped
-The world imploding and it being all your fault.
-Becoming a criminal mastermind only to have to hurt your friends because they're trying to save you then you go and apologise to them but they shank you and you and them have an epic long battle that ends when one of you are dead.
-Getting a chronic illness.
Eh being kidnapped aint that bad if you're a strong willed person
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@Altarf said:
Although I could be wrong as it just came out, I don't think it's as bad as everyone says. More ways to get between floors and a 4-way crossroads at the middle of the map would definitely help though. It's just intrinsically flawed like Hawkins or The Game though, due to the pallets being either worthless or god pallets. Seriously, how many god pallets are on midwich? There's, like, four or something just off the top of my head, in the courtyard, bathroom and near the stairs.
Bathroom and courtyard pallets are god pallets? Don't make me laugh lol. They're both EXTREMELY unsafe because it TRAPS the survivor in that area unless they loop them the right way but the simple way to counter that is just loop them the opposite way.
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Nah Dead Dawg Saloon is the worst for me. Midwich isn't bad at all once you get used to it.
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Honestly? As someone whos played against him since PTB I think he's DEFINITELY at least low A or mid A tier. He has an insane ability that makes it so you either waste a pallet and take a hit or he just gains a bunch of distance on you. The only two problems he has is the cooldown of his ability and his lack of map pressure however his ability to secure some quick downs and counter pallets really help
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@AshleyWB said:
When I see a Lisa Garland In game I immediately think "you paid £15 for a skin, when I down you I will let you go only once as you are contributing towards a character I want being available as a legendary skin in the future" everytime, unless they're really good then I treat them equally.
Haha sweetheart killer
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1361309#Comment_1361309
It's just a feeling that I get. They can be 3 things. 1: A very nice and fair survivor. 2: A bad player. Or 3: A sweaty tryhard with stretched resolution. Something about the cosmetic just irks me.
I remember being a freshman in high school and bunny feng min being shown haha wow that was like 3 years ago :o
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1359116#Comment_1359116
Yeah, I sometimes get a distaste in my mouth when I see a pink haired Nea named "toxicnea" or "toxicnoob3cutie" or a bunny Feng, but I won't camp or tunnel them for that.
Whats wrong with Bunny Feng?
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@Venzhas said:
Pretty sure its by jaleousy because you paid it with real money, like the guys thatsfind their sport cars scratched by envious and stupid people.
Haha yeah! I had just sold a couple movies online to secure some money for Lisa since I already had $17 for the chapter and I figured she'd cost more than a normal purple skin.
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@azame said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1358572#Comment_1358572
Yes you can definitely counter spirit it isn't like you are forced to guess whether she is phasing or not when she stands still at loops.
You're not as she resets and moves her right arm upwards then tilts her head when she starts phasing and arches her back
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@Nebula said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1361138#Comment_1361138
Believe it or not, most people don’t care for lore, perks or a separate voice actor. They buy it because they like the design/look and enjoy the game.
Plus they give a little bit of lore with her cosmetic pieces when you buy them so that's cute
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You probably just can't play it yet. Coming from someone who's been playing since PTB, it's a fine map and pretty even if not a tiny bit killer sided
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@Todgeweiht said:
I punish everyone equally.
Equality for all is perfect
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@SpaceCoconut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1361117#Comment_1361117
That's fine, but my personal issue is that you're willing to pay a premium price for a bargain bin item.
There's no separate voice actor or lore tied to the skin at the very least.
By paying for the item anyway, you and others with a similar "I don't care" mindset are encouraging the company to continue to sell uncommon items at exorbitant prices.
The more people buy these things, the sooner we'll see even more overpriced items in the store.
In the end, there's nothing we can really do about it since the company will do whatever they want.
But a small protest might become something more potent the longer the company continues to ignore concerns and do whatever they like...
Man I actually really liked you too. It sucks you support ruining someone elses fun just because something you don't need to pay for isn't up to your standards. Sorry you don't think shes up to your standards but its gross you feel the need to ruin everyone elses experiences and gameplay for it because that won't do anything
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As a Lisa main thank you very much <3
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@SpaceCoconut said:
Tunneling Lisa Skins might be an interesting protest tactic.
The legendary skins are lack luster money grabs indicated by the lack of a new voice for the skin and the marketing spin that this "new" character doesn't come with perks or lore.
This skin is more than the entire dlc.
Perhaps the protest is in an effort to limit the skins use and subsequent purchase of those skins to encourage bhvr to give a better value to these $15 "Legendary Skins"
Well I pretty much saved up cause I figured it would be in the $15-$20 dollar price range and Lisa has been my favorite character for almost 10 years now ever since I got into the franchise so I knew it'd be great to nab her when I could. Do I think she was a bit overpriced? Yes but for how long I've loved Silent Hill and Lisa I really knew she'd be my favorite to play and it sucks people wanna hate her or me for buying her/playing her as if thats really gonna change anything.
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@aregularplayer said:
you saw so many post about people planning to be toxic toward her and you still can't figure out why?
Yeah WHY would they be toxic towards her thats my question.
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@Thatbrownmonster said:
I only tunneled once yesterday since that character was the reason i lost my adept
If i can't get my adept neither can she >:(
Okay thats fair
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@Mooks said:
I am pretty sure it’s mostly because she is new. I noticed heavy tunneling on Cheryl as well (haven’t had a Lisa in my team yet).
but there will always be some killers that will target specific characters (there are quite some that will target Claudette and make sure every Claudette player has a bad time). There shouldn’t be too many of those though, and I guess once Cheryl and Lisa and longer in and maybe more legendary skins will be available this should normalize itself..
I hope so :( I just wanna play my favorite Silent Hill character in peace ;-;
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@Dr_Loomis said:
They're being punished for paying for it. Some are disgusted with the expensive price for the skin and are in turn making life difficult for anyone who dares purchase and equip it. It's not a good situation.
Although admittedly I tend to taste blood in my mouth when I see a Bunny Feng.
I am both a bunny Feng and Lisa main.
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Honestly I'd love this especially since SH is my favorite lobby atm
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@IronKnight55 said:
That's just silly... Not sure why anyone would care if you play Lisa.
Looking on the forums there seems to be a huge hate for Lisa and im not sure why. As far as I know she was welcomed with open arms when she was announced I'm not sure why she's being so hated on now.
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@tactic said:
I’m a killer main and I don’t understand why people would do that
Maybe because people are still levelling her up, they may not have all the meta perks available and as a result are easier to tunnel/camp?
Regardless, I promise you not all of us are like that <3
Dont worry I know you're not and I love those of you who aren't <3
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@Orion said:
You're playing a new character, meaning you have fewer perks, meaning you'll be the easier target. This happens every single time. It happens to people trying out the new killer in the PTB as well.
Well no I've seen them run past Cheryl just to get to me or something else like that. It seems to be solely when I play Lisa I get a huge set of toxic behavior
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Hmm blood pact still works on partial heals from what I've played with
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Eh you'll get used to it the more you play it. Cant adapt if you don't try!
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@SirCracken said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1354666#Comment_1354666
I've already said it already, (which seems to be a running theme in this thread), but it's very difficult to judge how much of an effect Spinechill has on a game when you're killer. You can never know exactly when the survivor started moving after the perk lit up. You've probably missed a great deal of hits, if not complete chases, because of the perk.
Well if its so little of an effect that I still get 2-3ks every time I play GF and I and many others don't notice it whats the problem?
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@SirCracken said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1354641#Comment_1354641
Unless of course you're Myers and Ghostface. Which have powers tied directly to looking at survivors. Even ignoring that, you can't argue that Spinechill is anything but the best perk in the game to counter stealth.
The last point is mainly where you're trying to rush a gen/heal and the killer is coming to you. That extra % can make or break at times.
I mean the only stealth killer I play is GF and most of the time playing him you dont wanna stalk you just wanna rush in and hit while you're stealthed and still SC doesn't bother me all that much. I can count on both hands how many times spine chill has ruined a hit and thats an estimated 7.
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Im super hyped! Its been so long since we've gotten a killer where they're actually fun to play against or even a good map for that matter. Plus Silent Hill is my favorite franchise of all time :)
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@SirCracken said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1354618#Comment_1354618
As killer, it's inherently hardly to tell how much of an effect Spinchill has. Even harder to tell if the survivors have it. But it does too many things for a single perk slot:
- Gives you knowledge of the killer approaching you, effectively countering every stealth killer in the game.
- Gives you knowledge while in a chase with the killer, helping to better guess their mind games and avoid a hit.
- Increases your vaulting speed. Although the amount seems small, combine it with Resilience and windows are much more powerful.
- Gives you more spellchecks. This is the weakest of the benefits, but still another in the list.
There's no reason why a perk should have this many upsides with no requirement.
I mean it only gives you a lot more skillchecks if the killer is staring at you the entire time and number one on that list doesn't counter every stealth killer. A good stealth killer isn't bothered by spine chill.
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@scenekiller said:
Quick question for anyone: what time does the DLC typically become available?
I'm usually at work when it's released, but with covid my hours are different, so I'll be home all day and want to download it as soon as I can
11AM PST!
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@SirCracken said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1354576#Comment_1354576
Can you explain why?
I mean even AS a stealth killer Spine Chill really isn't bad. Its a nuisence but not so much of one that it NEEDS to be nerfed. I don't even notice when its in play I just play normally and never I never seem to actually lose because of spine chill rather I get a toxic team with flashlights or something like that.