gilgamer

@CrashMADDS13 said:
I mean the gen slowdown from getting a hook rewards the killer and discourages tunneling and camping, while encouraging aggressive snowballing.
I like this idea, if it were looked at I'm sure it could be made balanced.

It would definitely take a lot of tweeking but the underlying intent is to make camping and tunneling less rewarding and convenient while making chasing and altruism more incentivised.

in What if they removed hook timers Comment by gilgamer January 20, 2022

@AngyKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2759563#Comment_2759563
And there it is; you want to punish Killers because you're sad, and you're 'offering' a bullshit genspeed increase to make it more palatable.
No. Just because you're angry that camping is convenient does not mean camping should be given completely broken punishments. The idea is trash.
I'm done here, as clearly all you want to do is punish killers for not following the fake Survivor Rule #2: Don't Camp; It makes Survivors angry they lost.

I want to punish gen rushing and gens before friends tactics as well they're equally boring, same with the hold W meta but I dont have a clue on how to change that without just outright nerfing survivors like giving them a sprint meter or something stupid like that.

in What if they removed hook timers Comment by gilgamer January 20, 2022

@AngyKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2758147#Comment_2758147
being able to camp someone from 1st hook to death should go away completely
No. What if I down somoene skilled at hiding in the end-game? Do I not deserve that kill when I literally have 0 gens to patrol anymore?
Camping in general deserves to exist but it shouldn't reward killers nearly as much as it does now, and shouldn't reward them at all for trying to do it from 1st hook to death hook.
Jesus. It does not 'reward killers'. Camping someone from 1st hook to death hook costs Killers the entire match. Literally, when you factor in chase time; 5 gens can pop before 1 Survivor dies, if they don't give up on the hook.
But Survivors demand rules and punishments and all sorts of BS because THEY decided winning was not enough; the person hooked deserves to not die, too.
Camping is a tactic. A bad one. Slugging is a tactic.Tunneling is a tactic. They don't need bullshit punishments and workaround because the people losing decided they should not have. End of story.

Also I've already said that during egc timers would have to come back but you probably didn't read the rest of the thread to see that

in What if they removed hook timers Comment by gilgamer January 20, 2022

@Zolfo16 said:
One killer and one surv can take hostage 3 survs. Not viable.
In my opinion making 120 seconds each hook phare and 120 seconds every generator (without grat skill chekc, tb or other stuff) it is a good idea thou.

Doubling hook states could work too

in What if they removed hook timers Comment by gilgamer January 20, 2022

@AngyKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2758147#Comment_2758147
being able to camp someone from 1st hook to death should go away completely
No. What if I down somoene skilled at hiding in the end-game? Do I not deserve that kill when I literally have 0 gens to patrol anymore?
Camping in general deserves to exist but it shouldn't reward killers nearly as much as it does now, and shouldn't reward them at all for trying to do it from 1st hook to death hook.
Jesus. It does not 'reward killers'. Camping someone from 1st hook to death hook costs Killers the entire match. Literally, when you factor in chase time; 5 gens can pop before 1 Survivor dies, if they don't give up on the hook.
But Survivors demand rules and punishments and all sorts of BS because THEY decided winning was not enough; the person hooked deserves to not die, too.
Camping is a tactic. A bad one. Slugging is a tactic.Tunneling is a tactic. They don't need bullshit punishments and workaround because the people losing decided they should not have. End of story.

I mean it does its not hard as a killer to camp one perso to death and while survivors waste time trying get them unhooked or searching for gens they die, then they can just do it to the next person. Some killers are better at it then others especially bubba and trickster if you know what you are doing with the right addons.

Also if it were so ineffectual then why does it happen in comp games all the time, not 1st hook to death but camping to ensure a hook state happens all the time and sure camping is a tactic and I'm not saying it doesn't have its place but currently it happens way to often because it's just an easy effective tactic.

And it doesn't take bad survivors it just take uncoordinated survivors which for an all solo queue team is impossible to expect all or even most of the time with so few tools to communicate in the game currently.

Also camping and gen rushing just aren't fun to go against so why do people defend them so adamantly. I don't get it, what's the problem with trying to move the game in a direction the rewards more interactive playstyles?

in What if they removed hook timers Comment by gilgamer January 20, 2022

Billy and blight on lerys has always been a particularly annoying combo for me. Those killers on Hawkins was pretty annoying too.

in Most Miserable Map/Killer Combinations? Comment by gilgamer January 20, 2022

@Dino7281 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2758061#Comment_2758061
They did buff him.
Problem is buffing his ADS movement speed was bad idea anyway, because fake ADS is still viable because of that. Well, it is needed anyway with those changes.
Then they buffed his break chain recovery, which feels good. Problem is that it's just nothing compare with nerfs he got.

Tbh I forgot they even buffed that aspect of his kit he wasn't my main and I haven't played since before they nerfed him. So I can only go off what people who do still play say and what I see his gameplay through somewhat else's gameplay and he looks horrible to play personally.

His chain breaking was almost never a problem for me when I did play him for a bit before his nerf so that being his buff to compensate for the nerfs he got, which I Don't even completely disagree with, feels like more of a slap in the face.

in You guys really went to town on slinger eh Comment by gilgamer January 19, 2022

@Dino7281 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2758124#Comment_2758124
It's very good to hook survivor next to gen with progress, but that is usually in hands of survivors unless you are one shot type killer.
Usually when you hit survivor, they will (should) run as far as possible away from gens.

True that is the smart thing to do, but it's also the smart thing to spread out as survivors to spread your teams gen pressure which would if the team is smart would limit where they can run to in order to not be near any gens with progress. Again not always viable hell maybe not even usually viable.

The game really needs reward more hook states than it is currently and being able to camp someone from 1st hook to death should go away completely. It adds nothing to the game. Camping in general deserves to exist but it shouldn't reward killers nearly as much as it does now, and shouldn't reward them at all for trying to do it from 1st hook to death hook.