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@Bodark said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908778#Comment_3908778
So we’re just gonna skate past the fact you blatantly lied about how Ralph felt about the Huntress buffs to try and discredit my opinion? Yikes.
Survivors want Lightborn nerfed so that’s a moot point to try and use that as a deflection. Because if it was up to you Lightborn wouldn’t work how it does.
I’ve seen a lot of your posts. It’s very clear that you don’t play killer that much. You always advocate for killer nerfs. You always advocate for survivor buffs. You’re very clearly biased.
And yes I watch Tru3. I’m not a brainless amoeba who believes what chronically online DBD Twitter users say. Not a single claim they make about him is true at all. They all lie to slander him.
Do you ever see me make a post saying killer op, please nerf killer? Show me one cause I doubt you can give me any. To make you look more silly here
I have platinum trophy on dbd on psn which includes having to the 5 og killers nurse ofc being one of them and if you wish you I can shown you killer trophies on psn or steam achievements so try again 😉 . Your posts and comments is just as bias as everytime someone mention anything about survivor, your first outdated comment is killer is.ment to be power role. So if you wanna keep doing this us vs then continue
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@Bodark said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908495#Comment_3908495
Nice Try Buddy but stop lying. Ralph said the buffs she got were fine on the PTB. So did Scott, Squirtle, Ray, Tru3, Coco, Spooky and Ohtofu. All of which know her whereas you clearly have no clue if she is balanced or not.
Not sure why you brought up Lightborn though? Completely irrelevant and doesn’t apply at all to this conversation
Stunning on command is bad and should never happen ever. I’m glad you don’t balance this game honestly. Survivor main for sure.
Oh you watch tru3 no wonder. Did I say flashbang stun? I said lightborn it negates all blind perks making them useless so all the qq about flashbang being bugged and not to do x y z was fix easily with lightborn, so it does have something to do with the topic.
Now if there was no perk to help with the flashbang problem that I get but do not pretend that despite the bugs, you had a perk that counter it. Also you only play survivor argument is so weak and outdated.
I can say that you only play killer and not survivor too then. Fyi I play killer at least 20% of time like this current event since BP is far better to get than survivor nice try buddy.
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@SaltyNooty said:
Honestly? Not really. DBD has been on a steady decline since the 6.1.0 Update way back in July of 2022, and from there, they've only made their game progressively more miserable and miserable to play. Especially for Solo Q. Anyone who plays the game, like the majority of us have a love-hate relationship with the game in the hopes that it'll get better but are CONSTANTLY and REPEATEDLY disappointed by the decisions that BHVR continue to make without any base for feedback or input.
(Or, in the face of entitled killer mains who love having free, easy, brainde@d 4K games and being as toxic as possible; but can't handle facing the same treatment. It's been in a pretty good spot for them since the Devs have actively proven that killers are all that matter.)
The 6.1.0 Update was the framework for all the nonsense and BS both Survivors and Killers are now putting up with and have been putting up with for years. Everything else that followed after that, including THIS Update was the result of the Community not being able to unite as a force and get it through the devs' thick skulls that they should be listening to feedback instead of doing whatever fits their MO.
(And more so to those who defend the update because "They just need more time for data" When they can clearly see that their update was horrid and that the decision-making was even worse.)
Because, as you can see, the lack of pushback was why we have Kaneki as he is now and why things are they way they are now. Couple this with the idea that the DBD devs DONT play their own game, which shows in their decision matching…
And you get this. Dead by Misery, Suffering, Agony, Unfairness, and Complaints.
Hopefully, this paints a clear enough picture.Yep I say this all this all the time and killers wonder why DC or giving up in hook became a norm since then. But you know people will pretend as if its not true.
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Just killers being killers that is all. The amount of BP you can get as killer compare to survivor is so crazy that means me being 80% survivor main will not be touching survivor and will easily get my p 80 Trevor to 100.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908520#Comment_3908520
The love of looping and view of it being the only skill thing with survivor isn't restricted to content creators at all. It's insane how many matches I have that regular players say this post match as killer and survivor. I often ask why didn't they do gens and they almost always respond with "because it's boring". As survivor I do gens because soloq is awful due to so many people refusing to touch gens, I play stealth just fine, I pre run, lose line of sight when possible and I don't get tunneled anywhere near as much as most people.
Complains of gen rush and admits to tunneling cause of gen rush as killer but at the same time complaining about team mates not doing gens. Jesus Christ bro.
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@Legendary_deedee said:
Sounds like survivor mains wanna win easily and can’t handle the pressure of tunneling. Try killer for once and maybe you’ll see why people tunnel. It’s called applying pressure. Y’all have perks that can counter tunneling and y’all still refuse to use them sounds like a skill issue.
Yall qq and talk about said perks being abused and weaponized at the same time make it make sense will you?
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@ChrissyG88 said:
I think everybody enjoyed DBD a lot more back in the days of stealth and search. I think the game would be better on both sides if aura perks on both sides were massively nerfed, or otherwise completely removed, and gens increased to 2 minutes. I don't enjoy the loopfest meme game that this once stealth horror game has become.
Exactly
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@Coffeecrashing said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908487#Comment_3908487
Flashbangs having a reliable noise is intended, and literally is the flashbangs working properly. They aren’t intended to be muffled.
Also, BHVR never said the goal was to make flashbangs equal to flashlights, and I’m not sure how you made that conclusion. They aren’t required to work the same.
Flashbangs drop silently in the actual re 2 and re 3 remakes and in re 5 aster a two second delay while in re 6 it was buff to instant blind with no delay without warning in said games. Else the lickers one of the most annoying re enemies be even more op than they are.
They buff lickers in the remakes 2 and 3 that even the stand still trick don't even work as much like it did in og.
So if they had make flashbang make a cling when drop, they would easily dodge it even though they are blind their hearing is insane.
Point is ofc as I said a few times Capcom and most player who never touched an RE game wouldn't know this.
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Anything that gives even a slight but niche advantage to survivors is always overrated but its too early for me even make a rather long list of niche things killers qq about so I'll wait in a few hours and post em.
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@XtremeDBD said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908025#Comment_3908025
Lary is not overtuned, Nurse and Blight are. Thats why they're S tier
As I said before sometimes tiers means nothing s a b c z whatever, everyone is different some people can handle some killers better than others hence yes my point why I have no personal issue with nurse or blight compared to others like singularity.
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@Bodark said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908180#Comment_3908180
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908180#Comment_3908180
If you have even a single clue how game balance works you would know that letting flash bangs stun the killer would kill the game outright.
That’s why even after 9 years we still don’t have a survivor perk that can stun the killer on command unless in a niche scenario like lockers.
As soon as you let survivors stun the killer, that’s it. Game is dead. Hooking would be impossible. Survivors would group up and stun lock the killer and so on.
It’s common sense.
If you have any common sense you know there is a perk that exist since the game been born. It's call lightborn which most killers mains admit to using as base kit even if the see no flashlights which is true. As I had matches where no one has flashlight or flashbang and killer has Lightborn
Also you who still ask for more huntress buff when she use to be the most balanced killer before her unnecessary buff not even good huntress content creators like Ralph asked for. So if you want to talk about common sense look into yourself.
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@LithefinesseXD said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3907908#Comment_3907908
so flashbangs being dropped not at a wall infront of the killer and not blinding at all is a supposed feature me don’t think so
@HeyBlakee said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3907908#Comment_3907908
youre extremely misinformed and this update is NOT what that is.
That collision bug waa fixed a while back. As well as the sound bug that made them quiet. This change in 8.6.0 is something completely different and they were disingenuous about it in the patch notes. They tried writing it off as a bug fix when its a balance change and just didnt want people upset about it.
At this point Capcom should take away licenses. I doubt most these players and bvhr have not even played a re game ever. The funny part is flashbangs is both blind and stunned a ear pierce sound in the remakes. Don't even get me started on them splitting up rpd.
Oh but you know they won't nerf lightborn which makes every blind perk pointless don't worry it gets better soon we can't drop pallets or jump throw windows.
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@biggybiggybiggens said:
It's a lot like putting perfume on a pig. Eventually you have to get stronger perfume.
😅 you and I will get along well xd keep up funny vibes friend.
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@Cypherius said:
I am seeing people complain about the tail nerf, but i don't feel the difference. A change of 0.1 seconds is pretty negligible. The buffs definitely outweigh the tail nerf.
Just like mft overrated 3% only worked well with hope and counters 110 killers not 115.
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As a 80% survivor, I do not even want to play survivor this entire event but queues are so whack now even night time is awful for killer. This event or tomes in general is always easier as killer since well I decide how the match goes as killer.
Honestly even I feel to abandon survivor and be a killer main as win or lose mean nothing to me. I do not camp or tunnel and always 4th hatch if they gave me some great chase and mind game. Hell sometimes ill even let 2 people live or all if I feel the game is ending too fast.
Really was impressed with how well a Lara outplayed me as venca using the eye and locker her to safety after an amazing 360.
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@JPLongstreet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908057#Comment_3908057
I thought it was spit and baling wire and wishful thinking 🤔
@biggybiggybiggens said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3908058#Comment_3908058
You have more faith in them than I. Guess I'm harder to impress.
OK you two lol ya killing me 🤣
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@100PercentBPMain said:
Precisely why I think healing under hook against kaneki should be illegal; doing so is depending on charity.
Friends til the end is pretty nutty too
Honestly the way killers tunnel specially high mobile ones, it super irritating when people want to heal under hook specially basement e.e.and I have perm calm spirit and distortion.
Friends till end is op than people think and does abit much and any killer with mobility or teleport power will always benefit off it.
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@biggybiggybiggens said:
This really shouldn't surprise anybody. The game is being held together by string and rubber bands…
😆 thanks for this I needed it.
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There so seem to be rubber banding as well on survivor side as well, I be running then suddenly screen jerks back. Idk if its a pc only thing or console, if so amma go back to ps5 sigh.
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Ngl have no problem with nurse or blight compared to far more other killers like over tuned singularity.
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I agree with @Langweilig and am tired of being a broken record, the game was the best before 6.1 period. After wesker project w release ( my favorite chapter) that is when all hell broke loose started with no skill knight to this current patch game is killer sided for almost now a whopping 3 years. Every killer now after wesker is just no skilled and ez mode, stupidity op ( waves at singularity for example)
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No it feels Iike a chore to do gens because all the little ones mostly replace them. It feels like the games drag out. A for attempt, E for effort and overall a F for failure.
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@WolfyWood said:
Vaults have been feeling janky for awhile (as usual) but I did notice this too.
Ngl I thought you was @wolfph this whole time xd
@op yes everything for survivors is always broken. They should start the survivors with wheel chairs and crutches cause for how long we complain about fast vault but still get hit 5 feet away from windows because killer ping takes priority.
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@LithefinesseXD said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3907213#Comment_3907213
right Mandy the double standards with this is crazy I’ve played this game since release oni was always meant to have a 90 cap lock on his power but since people complained it got made into a feature but you literally kill a perk that was already fair and balanced and just say oh it was a bug yeah right…
That part it clearly once again shows the favoritism good one to bring up. Reminds meof boons, they had shattered hope but killers didn't wanna use it and if they don't have lightborn to begin with to counter even the so call bugged flashbang its so disgusting.
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@Mandy said:
Flashbangs now work as they were always intended to work, it was never intended that the survivor model could clip into a killers model so that they could get a blind which a killer couldn't avoid - even when facing a wall. Same as the audio and blind radius - you should not be blinded when looking up (which was happening) and you should not be blinded if the flashbang is not within your range of vision, hence we adjusted the angles. There has to be a way for the killer to avoid the flashbang, before it was incredibly easy to just drop the bang and the killer would be blinded with no way to avoid it, that's definitely not something that was ever intended to happen.
Whilst I appreciate that those who enjoy using flashbangs, have to now learn the new radius etc, the previous version was bugged.
So can lightborn be nerfed since it robs survivors to protect themselves. Nerf it to 4 tokens like pain res, how is this fair?
its just like distortion how killer qq one perk shouldn't be countering all aura add ons and perks. Lightborn should not be survivors few defense all match.
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@LockerLurk said:
Yet when I posted this same exact topic, I got downvoted to oblivion from the word go.
Yeah its stupid and ofc its the people who uses that bug no brain killer is doing it and dont care for others to enjoy event. Ofc behavior refuses to remove this button which Many claim=it is a test and can easily be turned off if it gets out of hand* why even try to test a failure that promotes toxicity yet claiming to try make forums feel welcoming and peaceful and I see very old posts of years back that it was ask to be gone and finally it was gone its so disgusting and worse than seeing 0 upvote. Its as pointless as depipping was. But it seem am the only one begin vocal about it and no one else.
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YES because they are abusing a BUG that makes them able to permanent hinder you and after they hit you during a pallet vault AND your prompts to try revault said pallets are not working too, which am recording every single instance of this as we speak and will be posting them later.
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ok these ghouls are abusing a bug that makes you PERM HINDERED sometimes after they jump hit you through a pallet and also no promp comes up when you try to revault said pallet(like when you try wesker tech where you vault the pallet back after he virtual bond vault) yeah no kill switch this now. Yall have NO right to even dare punish any person who wants to go next this is digusting.
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So is this like the moon rod event where using event offering is a waste and instead best use cakes/puddings?
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It feels like am in a trial with a pig(even though I have not get one yet as of this post) and its actually annoying specially on indoor maps where these lil gens replace the maines ones mostly its like nope not clicking to me.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3907060#Comment_3907060
But it's not a losing play. All gens require less progress? Or wall hacks when a killer scares a crow? That's huge. The other survivors just need to make good use of their time. But I guess when the bar has been lowered such that even that's not expected of survivors, this is the kind of reaction you get.
I find it funny your defending the two trash waste of time innovations perks which 95% of smart survivors know its actually a killer perk, but dear someone say oh flashbang(which am going to make a post about) is nerfed to trash now , you shoot down said topic talking about how unfair it is right?
@Nazzzak said:
Had a team mate with an Invocation perk earlier. The killer had BBQ and yet opted to ignore them in the basement, I'm guessing because he knew they were better off in there than on a gen. He started chasing another team mate and she ran him right into basement to rat out the Invocation user. The situation amused me because it showed just how much these perks are killer perks in disguise - the team mate was annoyed it was in use, while the killer was totally fine with it in use lol personally, I'd drop it from your build.
While I technically do not believe in sandbagging ngl that is the one time I will do it, I see you loading with no mither(which they make it obvious) and am wasting the killer time in a chase while your doing that ritual voodoo perk then yeah I too get annoyed and do the same lol.
@StudiousTome I do not get why with the many other GEN rush perks like deja vu/prove thyself, commodos with bnp, stake out and many other gen rushing build perks your wasting your time and other people time with this? that same 60 seconds could have just been spent on a gen in the first place specially if you got a good teammate who is looping and wasting the killers time as much as possible. Hate to sound cruel but like no mither your handing the killer a free win with trashovations perks
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@DestroyerBG said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3905772#Comment_3905772
flashbangs don't blind the killer if he has lightborn? They never did at least before. So yeah you are right if you play solo que you gotta be selfish or you are just gonna be dragged down by your teammates
oh no sorry i didnt explain clear. I met with having flashbang+selfcare/shadows I still have blinds/heals but ofc if they have lightborn flashbang is a wasted perk slot xD. Else overall when they want to use cringe franklins they wasted a perk slot since I will always have a heal/blind on me.
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My only complaint about white ward is that it does not protect against franklins which makes it part worthless
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Yeah this recent update I realize how garbage flashlights and flashbang became even more. I got 0 blinds with either in 10 matches yesterday and gave up{,killer did not have lightborn). At this point am telling you they may remove the survivors out the game its just pathetic.
I also like to add at this point I want capcom to take away the re License because bvhr apparently never played a RE game before. First they gutted RPD and now they ruin flashbang because you know something flash bang also STUNS in the actual re game so it does both like blast mine does. If they wanna ruin the blind then put stun on it.
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@Caiman said:
Imagine having to deal with nonstop Ghoul players running full meta in the new game mode. I don't think it's going to be playable. New game mechanics for survivors to learn against a hypermobile killer who's always on top of you. Getting through the event tome is going to be a struggle.
Another one of the rare times we see eye to eye agreed.
@Reinami said:
Would you rather go against nurses doing the same?
@Unequalmitten86 said:
I was thinking the same thing.
They are rare to this day and time so quit exaggerating and they take far more skill as other said and is either very bad or very good.
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@DestroyerBG said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3905368#Comment_3905368
Also lets not forget flashlights are completely worthless. The killer has a brain and does not let you blind him even at a pallet anymore. I just never bring flashlight although a medkit is barely good with needing so much just for 1 or 2 heals and toolboxes are the only viable thing but the killer might just go kill you for bringing a toolbox. Just sucks too much to use anything anymore if you play survivor you just won't have a good time almost all the time
Yup, I rather flashbang anyday and if solo q am taking self care or strengh in shadows for health. Takes just 1 disgusting cheap Franklin's ro ruin even a med kit with 2 charges . I bring a broken key or brown tool box at most now and lol at them wasting a perk slot on Franklin's.
Guess what with flashbang and self care/shadows am still gonna gonna now be able to heal and even if you don't have lightborn which is common anyways, your gonna be blinded , so fast your Franklin's lol
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Nerf
Spirit= The spirit will now kick dust up when she is phrasing to give survivors a better queue of counter play( this actually was to be added along with audio queue which idk why bhvr scraped that part of nerf) Am sorry to say but nurse has more fair counterplay, a nurse is either very bad or good and at least you see her red stain during a blink. Oh also remove the ability for her to fake phase.
Singularity = Remove biopods from 10 to 4 in base kit and make it an add on he needs for the 10. This killer has it way to easy to chase and control generators. Biopods, cd after being broken increased to 60 seconds. Overclock removed because given base kit spirit fury is dumb.
Wraith = lightburn added back. I am so tired of cheap body blocks, he add ons are strong, so he can easily counter this.
Buff/reworked
Trickster = reverted back to what he was but base ms remain 115. Why should artist who has a far better power that goes across a map be 115 and has annoying antiloop?
Wesker = Cool down on a missed dash or successful dash has been significantly decreased. Again why does nurse and blights the S tier killers gets there power back so fast whether it connects? Also if Wesker vaults a pallet or window with power, he can still keep going like legion and chucky can.
Vecna= Flight he no longer slows down after landing. Am sorry but flight is a joke, yes you use it as a catch up tool but when he lands the survivor already is long gone. It is the only thing in his kit I see no point of vs just walking normally the.
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@DestroyerBG said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3905219#Comment_3905219
you are pretty right I mean I overall just quit the game and keep it for when a friend wants us to play custom games. The normal mode is just torture to be played and I completely understand survivors refusing to participate anymore since it is such a pain. Especially with this new killer being added.
I have to say it got so bad I am kinda forcing myself to play else my trevor may have hit 100 ages ago who current been 78 for 2 weeks lmao and also cause am a streamer but now that am affliate and it may cause lost viewers, Happiness comes first.
I much rather stream other things even cartoon idv is better lol. Cause sometimes even 1 bad match on killer sided by light specially when with potatoes solo q makes me nope not streaming this today.
Even my 3man swf is not enough now if not 4 man I will pass, as it even take one dumb solo q person trying to be wannabe jrm/aryun wasting time chasing a killer with a flashlight who has crutches born is annoying or pulling me or said 2 man off hooks clearly farming us for the killer.
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It always been like this even befire this new killer lol. Incentives for survivor is almost always on like 95% of time and its been this way since last year.
Shows just how lesser of survivors players are as time goes. I am also assuming the distortion gutting and finisher mori being part of it.
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@redhat74 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3904641#Comment_3904641
"Oh Lawd, Here we go again!"
So true, makes you wonder after all this time whether it will ever get balanced.Because this topic is stale and beyond ridiculous now. I am sorry to tell you or anyone living in this fantasy world but you CANNOT stop people from teaming with their friends and family. I rather have my swf who wont dc like a 3 year old infants because they die in 10 seconds of a chase. DBD its the ONLY game that people qq about people playing with who they know vs randums, its so bad that I cant even think of any other pvp game where people qq about swf this swf that. If yall hate swf so much play a pve game simple. I get yall wanna just have easy wins and stomp solo q but that is not how you will get better at playing.
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Ngl as @Tits says renatos and aces in that black suite with flashies tends be very toxic and cocky and I seen this quite often as both survivor and killer lol.
As Leon Yoichi and Trevor or Alucard are my mains I seem to get 0 hates ty god. Draculas always tend to want me to live as alucard especially.
Honestly its steves I got a hatred in ever since scene partner and I avoid lobbies as a survivor or killer. Am sorry that perk is annoying and not healthy for people with disabilities( not that I have any other then wearing glasses.)
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No nothing more annoying when christine or christopher is forcing you to move off an important gen your trying to get rid of and given nemesis the oh hey they are info. Its annoying having to play escort as well as waste pallets to counter them.
Idc what people say but nemesis is far more annoying than wesker in every way. With a wesker its just him and his big 40 terror radius, no worries about being gen interupt unless he is coming vs the damn zombies.
Aint nothing more lame than trying to loop and out of no where get hit by zombies specially indoor maps given him easy downs with his undeserved 6.5 hit box.
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@Lixadonna said:
That's because Survivors will use Cakes and Killer use their Pudding. Now Killer can still use their Pudding can not leech off all the Survivor's Cakes.
Exactly and look we being downvoted for speaking the truth not surprised lol.
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@Thusly_Boned said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3904248#Comment_3904248
That "balanced counterplay" also jacks up her lethality.
I appreciate your aversion to the puking, but unless your whole team is also cleansing, it's a recipe for disaster against a good Plague. And "simply" stunning or juking her when she's in her power is far easier said than done unless her player is a potato.
The majority of good surv players will stay sick and broken for the whole match, at least until the very end. And Plague matches are very winnable even with the whole team remaining injured.
Well here is my thing a plague with dying light,than and gift of pain = forever to do gens. You choking is = free info for them to track you easily and specially the ones who use that crutch add on that show aura reveal everytime you choke is another issue.
Even if survivors do not cleanse the game gives her power automatically or she can drink from the 2 to 3 corrupt fountains anytime. I rather take 2 hits from red power than be a one hit down for her. I did say her power hit boxes is weird as sometimes even if she seem she will hit it does not register.
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A friend told me even on pc dbd is cap at 60 even if you have 120 settings on and your pc is fast. Can someone confirm please. Cause a 4060 rtx graphics card and every game.cept dbd shows pretty and I have all the highest possible settings. Though it can be my monitor I confess sinces its not 4k like my tv which dbd shows way prettier on my ps5.
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No keep them personal. The way killers play with camp tunnel and slugging is a perfect reason why. This is why since 6.1 stop using party streamers. Very funny seeing like 400 on my p 100 Leon and Yoichi.
I aint gonna get just 5k points because of the usual 3 said reasons or out the game by some tombstone myers before I even got a chance to do a thing.
Finally what @Crowman I was sick of both killer and survivor who brining cakes and puddings to leech off my event items.
