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The finisher mori seriously is just having people more waste time not hooking to see the same stale animations over and over and I wish killers stop with the boil over sabo squad excuse.
Hooks respawn and I tend to not get sabo squad ever when I play killer, last time I got a sabo squad was like 6 so month ago when the tool boxes got sabo buff.
Waiting on the third person on hook to die only to mori forth when literally there a hook close by to hook fourth just wastes more time. As if maps like dead dawng dont have 6 hooks right upon each other. Amount of mori offerings too seem to have sky rocket too.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
If I had a nickel for every 2v8 game I played that didn't have a huntress in it, I'd have no nickels.
Seriously, I think they should try 2v8 with keeping the killer roster limited and just rotating in + out different killers each time, at least before they decide they want it to be a permanent mode. She's in every single game that I play - which, cool! she's popular, she's fun, I'm glad people are having fun with her, but even the most enjoyable killer gets boring when you face them every single game back to back (and play with them, too). It's the Wesker Principle all over again.
Shes always in regular mode too am sick of her give me one million weskers over 1 huntress if you please.
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@vBlossom_ said:
Really, what where you thinking when you buffed survivors to the point of having an unlimited amount of pallets, heals in 2 seconds, unlimited unbreakable?
Killers could team with each other to double tap survivors and insta-down them, but I see it is not fitting into "killers are sooo miserable :((" thing. Also survivors are almost constantly revealed to them, so stop with this whole "boo hoo" 🙄
+ Survivor classes aren't unlimited, they are once per like 2 minutes of match?
So you need to be coordinated and time it out perfectly.
This^^ I was watching my friend stream last night and every march was 6k to 8 k because all killers did was double team people or use the most broken duo killer team he only escape 1 match out 10 matches until he said nope back to normal mode in which he had far better fun and was like 7 out of 10 match wins with the 3 being close games.
Its pathetic cause those double tappers my friend and even other survivors you can see would juke and dodge one attack or heck even both at once which he did an amazing 360 dodging both only still be down right away. Shows how bad most of these killers when they need to call on their buddy for help. Sad part is when its the last survivor both of them is dry humping and wasting that last survivor time as if they was even good to begin with .
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@versacefeng said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3839676#Comment_3839676
Then the hitbox should be accommodated for certain killers. Just gotta count on the devs to not destroy hitboxes as a whole.
With chucky,neme,Freddy and huntress moon size hit boxes I doubt it.
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No because its a waste of time and I already platinum the game on ps5 2 years ago and dont care for killer adepts. Also if one of my re babies, yoichi, or a trevor is in the match I want them alive. 3k is my win ty, am not getting rl money, fame or glory for 4k slugging and wasting other people precious time either.
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We? Who is we? Sure in hell it is not me.
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@GeneralV said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3840601#Comment_3840601
May I ask if you dislike him more than skull merchant?
Yes, because I don't dislike Skull Merchant.
But there isn't a killer I hate more than Wesker.
Ah fair enough hehe we all just dont like something no matter what and I respect that. I feel the same whenever its spirit.
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I say just put grunts of pain to 100 and all actions increase by 5% It use to be at least strong with old dead hard and it also should not trigger oni power its stupid. Just as how adrenaline no longer wakes you vs Freddy, why should this perk trigger oni power for free?
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Yeah some perks no matter how much they are buffed or even reworked will never seem to shine
Blood rush ( the same perk killers thought be meta on its released and now its rework and still no one uses it.
Smash hit = no one uses it
Poised =No one using it
Babysitter= shockingly no one is using it
Lucky star= no one uses it
List goes on 😐
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@GeneralV said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3840578#Comment_3840578
A killer being strong doesn't necessarily mean they are unfun, and vice-versa.
Hillbilly has always been fun, in my opinion, and for a long time he was the second most powerful killer in the game. Trickster on his release was weak, but still miserable to go against.
Wesker doesn't have to be among the top to cause problems. He already does.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3840581#Comment_3840581
It shouldn't be a thing at all, imo.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3840584#Comment_3840584
His power doesn't need to work the exact same way as theirs, but it cannot remain in its current state either.
May I ask if you dislike him more than skull merchant? Also imo nemesis is far more annoying than wesker as he is now huntress 2.0 with insane hit hoxes, his zombies can be annoying specially indoor maps , your trying to complete an important gen and ken and barbie is forcing you off it or your trying to loop him and get a good loop only for said ken and barbie to hit you or down you for him and ofc he also gets info because the zombies raises their arms like someone is around here look here. Imo his power the poor design one, should have been the rocket launcher. Neme has far less vaccines to use vs wesker who has 2 fas per case and he too gets killer insticts so he has more info than wesker cause zombies alerts him as well.
As in voice line chucky is far more annoying along with unknowns cause chucky gives that cocky ######### like attitude that I wish I can yank him out the screen and unknown is some demented person sounding like a person who needs a ward.
Wesker voice line and power is designed from his re5 game, these are the exact things he says mind you and yeah re 5 sadly was not scary. A billy able to spam his saw after missing and up on your butt with no slow down is far more bad designed imo and wesker power has a bad cooldown.
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@Royval said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3837481#Comment_3837481
I think Wesker is the most perfect designed killer ever.
I agree with you 100% specially as an re vet. Compare to far annoying killers like spirit,chucky etch he is fine and I miss him everyday. Getting at least one is the easiest way to make me happy.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3840489#Comment_3840489
You're making a false association between toxicity and camping, and also between Huntress and those things. It's mostly just killers playing the game. There's toxic ones for sure, but you sound like a killer beating you, because they were playing sweaty, is toxic.
You have nothing better to do than always assuming things a out people? It aint nothing about being beaten and people do find certain killers to always be toxic sorry if the truth hurts you and your probably one of them who does this else you wouldn't comment on it. Then I cay say the same of survivors if they t bag you cause you fail to catch them its not toxic you just got outplayed.
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I been tired of huntress for months in even regular mode, starting at 6.1 i notice how they become one of the most toxic camping, tunneling bming killers specially if you loop them hard and its usually those with the default skin and dog mask lol.
It's sad as I use to enjoy and love going against them now I just groan hard everytime I get one. Idk but all the nice ones have moved on cant last tell when any of them arent obnoxious and egotistical. Glad am not playing 2 v 8 sounds like a bore
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I would love my old dead hard and iron will back and beautiful old haddonfield, old dead hard was just chefs kiss when people try using basement trapper, dash through traps lol, so glad I made memories of things like that on my ytd and will forever keep them.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3839370#Comment_3839370
"Perfectly useable" as much as many other Trashperks for Survivor. As I said, the version right before the most recent Nerf was useable, but IMO already too weak to actually be effective.
But I dont care too much, the less people are running CoH on my Survivor-Teams the better.
Anything in killer rule books that is garbage to survivors is still good to killer mains , we hear the same thing with mft, iron will( before its recent but now mediocre buff,distortion, adrenaline, and so on.
Said perks I have not seen not one person using them in months unless its a person who take a break only come and ask oh what happen to this perk? The cheap saying they add is its still good as a swf is such a stale excuse too.
We all ( my swf)rather just use strength in shadows or hell self care at that point instead of circle of garbage and waste less time booning or looking for each other.
People seem to underestimate how time efficient it is for someone to heal themselves over trying to look for people to heal them its as bad as booning.
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Adding spirit oh yes already not even going to touch 2 v 8, I love my iron will ty and the last I need is her with her 0 counter play cause even using head phones still dont mean anything of a counter and more of close your eyes and pray. Ill take idv 2 v 8 anytime anyday. Hopefully most the sweat fest killers stay in the mode.
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3 gens are just spawning so in 95% of the maps and its so bad sometimes its 2x three gen spawn with hooks by them so that no matter which way you try to approach you still will be in one and its disgusting cause killers lately has been abusing this and being wraiths 2.0 with hitting but not committing to chase when they see 3 gen spawns. Like having a 40mins match vs a trapper doing this along with trap disabling was so mind numbing yesterday.
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Or they can just give self care strength in shadows healing speed and rework strength in shadows into something else but then killers will no doubt qq nerf nerf nerf.
Heal nerfs and lightburn only indirectly buff legion and wraith and my hate for them 1000x fold. Wraith went from easy to simply brain dead no skill stress relief.
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@SuspiciousBrownie said:
Crouch techs 100% need to go. Crazy how I can bounce off of a survivor as Wesker, Billy or Demo because they press crouch. A zero skill move that nullifies a lot of power plays
Oh 0 skill ok listen. Huntress with her moon size hit hox and that crutch aura read that show aura hit by hatches aint no skill along with the not needed increase that she has 7 hatches to spam now cause most huntress now just auto pilot throw without even trying to aim properly. Her ability to ignore anti camp when trying to get a end game save is also no skilled like instant down killers ability to camp(bubba the king of it)
Nemesis hitting you everywhere around everything like cars is no skill.
Demo instant breaking pallets with shread because most of them shreads for pallet breaking over trying to injure with it cause they are lazy like billy and bubba who instant break pallets.
Chucky getting wall hacks with crutch poison and exploiting the slice and dice bug and getting free hits with it or even regular m1 with flick exploits is no skill.
Wesker get a pass since I love him as an re vet and I never see people try crutch tech him as bob and weave is better
Killers in general with supermarket/fast food or vpns getting undeserved hits and we must enjoy the game from their client or even lag switching when they losing. That takes no skill.
Yesterday I had a billy that me and my swf won and our pings was fine who we was 30 each and killer was 50, we got him again after and our pings and was 300 and 400 apparently salty we beat his p100 billy so turns on lag switch mode to win for 0 effort which I was glad to record and report. Sad part too they are ttv and as a ttv myself its people like that give all us other ttvs bad names.
You know your aura read crutch add ons and perks for 24/7 free info for everything we do worst its more icreased 100 fold since distortion is a dumpster fire? That takes no skill.
Seem to killers every thing survivor do even if niche takes no skill yet killers themselves act like they dont have no skill things too.
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98% of the time I forget crutch tech exists. 2% of time when I try it vs huntress and nemesis I still get hit all the time even by trickster too with his low throwing lol.
Also when will chucky exploit of flick hits be gone, its getting really out of hand as if they got base kit coup de grace. They are getting some really pathetic hits via slice and dice or m1s and I already hate this voodoo doll with a passion.
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It may make killers ( doubt it,) not hit people on hook as much or all but as someone who run calm spirit I still get hit on it simply for outplaying the killer though xd. Overall good idea. Grunts of pain too should be added so I do need to run iron will.
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Skull merchant= laundry mat
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They just need to add back lightburn so that he cant get free hits wasy fix. I miss the days when they fear you more cause once they see your using especially flashbang they try their best to leave you be lol.
Yes his adds on too are all annoying specially the 60% break actions. I use to not mind wraith but as soon as they remove lightburn off him he became onf of my top hates.
Also like bubba they all run bambi so people who say him and bubba weakness is windows guess what happens when they have bambi.
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@Rudjohns said:
I didn't read but I will say
"Stop unhooking survivors when the game is already over and everybody is trading hooks at 5 gens. Just hide and try to get the hatch for f sake"
Lately its been odd like if we at 4 to 5 gens and its only 2 of us and am caught idk why the person dont let me go and try for hatch.
I mean I appreciate it but am not going to be mad if its 2 of us only and I got caught. I only get mad if all of us is alive and your not doing nothing and letting everyone else die while you seek hatch.
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This perk and moment of glory are two of the most worthless heal perks in the game may as well not bother. I much rather they both be reworked to something else
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Freddy is a weird one I vouch for him but skull merchant good riddance.
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Never like this killer myself and for these reasons
1 = unlike myers ghosty and oni who has to do things for their instant down(stalking myers and ghosty) oni must injure and collect blood. All 3 has limited time on their instant downs not counting perm 3 myers add on. All 3 if they hit someone with their instant down they have attack cool down.
2= Billy if he can only hit one person at a time with his saw and he has attack cool down, while bubba can one person down and still be going to try chain down other survivor in quick sessions and thats just annoying. I find it dumb that his saw seem to ignore things that billy saw dont like trying to hug a huge rock or tree yet his saw iframes and hits you still .
They all run bambi and eats up pallets so unless its a map like leries its a wrap. When they run double iri its a wrap. Its also stupid how I can bait legion to fenzy slash via a locker dodging it and their fatigue lets me get away unlike bubba that keeps swinging after hitting the locker which you got to time perfect when to get out else a free grab for him unless you have head on which shines honesty vs him only
3=His perks Franklin's and knock out sorry to say just gives you feeling that these perks was designed with the thought of being an a hole to people.
I feel he needs to be punished more that if he hits something like a locker he stops, same if he hits down a survivor with a saw he should stop just like every oner killer do with their power. Old bubba was much more fun and took skill compared to this annoying bane, love bullying him in his own game though get poked by a bone scrap doink.
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Interesting because onepumpwillie who is a onryu main still get tons of condemn win streaks on her and most people copy and paste what he does like the one I had 3 days ago that done this very boring and all that for 10k points.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Knockout is only "good" versus SoloQ players. SWFs will just tell the team where they are.
No its annoying to swfs too and and some swfs can have a person that is new to the game and is uncertain of map lay outs 😒
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I hate that perk ngl, with how killers are are return to hook Andy and tunneling sorry no but I do not wish to take ages to be heal.
I rather botany simply cause it already useful from start to finish and it works for heals on you and teamates even if they on the ground.
Auto do not even work on yourself for self heal speeds. Heck Resurgence buff with a med kit or self care even is enough .
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I am up for any wesker buffs as an re vet who was excited for his release wesker was balanced and only the infection needed a nerf to reduce tunneling, the hindrance was a none issue.
He should have his power cool down reduced for miss grabs cause why should billy get to spam his chain saw after missing but Wesker cant with a horrible cool down on his power?
I miss him so much and you have so much other boring irritating killers like spirit with her non counter play because its not everyone games with a headset and even if you do you still have to be lucky cause of fake phasing and what not
Nemesis is far more annoying and a bane compare to wesker cause being forced off gens via zombies or some how as your looping a strong area they come and hit you out of no where and buffing his tentacle hit box was so stupid. The zombies too is free info for him to know where a person can be.
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@Potato_Survivor said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3834082#Comment_3834082
Ironic how you call out skill issue with the zillion second chance perks you have
You mean ds and otr that is situational and easy counterable by simply not tunneling so they become useless? Conspicuous actions also being on them to them useless as well?
Your talking dead hard that has only 2 limited uses and is easily counter if you just learn to time when to swing and not just swing mindlessly?
You mean one time use unbreakable which is simply counter by picking up the survivor instead of slugging them?
You mean deliverance when your the first one that got unlucky and got chase and put on the hook first?
You mean mettle of mine that involves you taking 3 hits to gain its benefits?
Sure we do have a zillion second chance worthless perks indeed.
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My biggest question is why killers LIE when survivors was complaining about hook respawn happening they quickly try to shut down the complains and say oh its a good thing to have and we wont even have to slug as much or not at all no more. But me knowing its just a sack of bs lies knew that it still will happen, only gotten worst with this mori update + increase bming third person on hook and body humping fourth person.
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I made a ton of good friends off dbd but sadly 98% of them had move on to better games and I do not blame them one bit, telling you if not for me being a sucker for rifts things + trevor who am working on p 100 id be gone ages ago myself.
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@Potato_Survivor said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3834016#Comment_3834016
Find it funny that we always have to cater to survivors constant complaining, enough of the hand holding if its not this it be something else it is always something else they are truly never happy unless they get everything they want so they do not actually have to rely on skill or just using the right perks to counter.
Slugging is not against the rules the sooner they accept that it is part of the game the better, and if they can't handle a PVP style game that they are not able to control completely maybe minecraft be a better choice.
Yes i slug i wont bleed out and its generally if exit gates are open or 1 gen left and the team make it easy for me to do it like hanging all around one place.
I care about your fun as much as you care about mine so meh ridiculous that people still expect others to play for there fun but never worry about how they play may not be fun for the other side absolute no self awareness.Like killers dont do the same thing take a page out of your own book. Like when you bad at catching people and lost the game and you have crutch ED giving you free kills you did not even deserve? Or when when karma hits you and you get a team that mops the floor with you and cry its swf bullies(even though its not only swfs that can do that, but the rare good solo q teammates can bullies too yeah? Then its nerf this nerf that nerf this nerf that. Omg they have HOPE it needs to be nerfed (because the survivor who survived the trial dont deserve a lil 7% speed boost.
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This cool animation people keep preaching about, more like stale and outdated its not every animation is just 5 seconds some are so long and just unnecessary dragged out like chuckies.
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@Mr_Digi said:
i'm almost joining you. been playing since 2017 and it has become so boring to play solo now. there is so much bullshit added that just makes the game unfun. And thats the issue with balancing for "new players". making the game easy and fun for new players just makes it broken for experienced players. And yes, slugging in soloq. crazy how unbreakable still isnt basekit after 2 min or something. i play a few games every now and then. today my first game was a cheater that instakilled me, and i got a penalty of a minute. i waited, joined another game, same cheater. got a 5 min penalty. next game, blight tunneling at 5 gens. then closed the game. very fun experience indeed
Had this annoying onryu who did the boring TV spam you free mori everyone and she must have been cheating because she was just spamming TV back to back before anyone could reach for tapes, when me and one got condemn fully. L
That's when my one friend and random got to clean off theirs while we got down and killed and ofc she slugs for 4k and bms both on hook salty she didn't got a 4k free mori only got 2. Congrads on your 10k points. Very same killers like that too who qq when karma bites them and they get the top notch team that tears them up amd cry survivor op.
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@sinkra said:
Adrenaline, Boil Over and Distortion nerfs were the last straw for me. Distortion has one single charge while killers get to wall hack all game with constant aura reading JFL. You can't even hide anymore in a game that was based on stealth. Survivors are just supposed to be playthings for a killer's ego and not allowed to have counterplay?
These devs don't understand how to make a game fun. I remember an interview with a dev in another game who said the aim should be to make all abilities feel powerful, because it's FUN and balance each other out. Gutting any useful perk to the point no one with any sense would take it is effectively removing it from the game.
All we can do is pray one day all aura read add ons is gone and all aura reading perks get the 4 token use only like pain res did cause it's just pathetic and skilless being seen for everything you do.
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I am so glad there are games that allow you to set internet connection requirements like tekken/final fantasy dissidia nt because I just cant tolerate super market/fast food restaurant connections.
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Goodness gracious like are you serious? You already have your solution which is lightborn so no leave what one thing we have to defend ourselves be which is nullified by a perk that takes 0 requirement to activate, yall already have smaller size pancake maps and 90% of the pallets in all maps cept the game now is unsafe. I swear then people ask why I always say apparently killers want us to start the trial with 2 hook each injured so we can get down and hang cause like what are we suppose to have?
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Interesting because we just had this lame ass ghost face who did this with knock/third seal not hooking no one and slug and ofc want mori forth am so glad I was the one that got picked up atleast. This is just beyond annoying now and survivors should just stop playing so that these killers can have 30mins wait queue.
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Honestly go for both because cause 2 out of 3 of theie perks is solid , I guess rookie spirit is okish it is pretty much a survivor version of surveillance from pig. Counter force is so so if you love knocking out totems.
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@Akumakaji said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3832180#Comment_3832180
This is very solid advise and so true, BUT in the case of bully SWFs you can bet that the one who escapes will rub it in in the most devious and painful way, claiming that the killer didn't win at all, because they escaped yadda yadda yadda.
Most of the time I can just ignore such non-sense, but not gonna lie, some games that survivor made your life SO hard and got under your skin and seeing them escape and mock you can be pretty painful, even if you are mostly levelheaded, BUT in the end, the best is just to try to ignore it and don't let it affect you.
I had killers who was salty someone loop them for all gens and only got a 1k ( the looper) and wanna tell the looper how they are bad and have no skill and they abuse this and that yadda yadda and they ( killer) won the game umm yeah sure you did while 3 others has escape portraits.
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@Rogue11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3832002#Comment_3832002
Billy isnt currently bugged that i know of. I still think they nerfed the wrong things recently and the extended curve window ruined counterplay against him, but that's not an exploit.
@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3832002#Comment_3832002
I mean there's lopro flick I guess but all in all Billy's not that different on controller.
Ah thanks.
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How come Billy is left out or am I missing something?
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@Valuetown said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3831871#Comment_3831871
Even if they are out of danger, having 1 person slugged for that long is effectively playing like one person has already been sacrificed. The killer can snowball from there within those 3 minutes and the game would be over. Even if they get up, the game is unrecoverable for survivors.
The sad part too is how they the say survivors get too altruistic and should do gens if someone is being slugged/ tunneled and now they saying it's their team should stop gens and get people up rescue, heal like it's just no win with killer mains just a endless merry go around.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3831609#Comment_3831609
One way to give incentive to not slug would be to get rid of flashlights, flash bangs and the hatch lol. If a killer can't pick up due to flash bangs ect they will slug. If survivors get steamrolled and hide out for the hatch, killers will slug to get the 4k they rightfully should get in that situation. Slugging is often used as a counter to survivor tactics so maybe look into the root cause of why killers slug and deal with that?
Sure but can we get rid of all aura read add ons and aura read killer perks and Franklin's demise and conspicuous actions
You know I'd love to use my ds for end game tunneling so the killer do not get a free kill they should not earn and wonder why they rightfully got looped and lost.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3830461#Comment_3830461
Then we're at an impasse. He can't prove it and you can't disprove it. Isn't this a great system the devs have, where nobody can tell what their MMR is? To where we can't even begin to have conversations about the game?
Oh but when a survivor complains though its get good skill issue, killer ain't at fault, its you or your teammate fault,learn to loop, stealth, run this run that. Change your playstyle and I can go on. Well killers out to do the same thing they suggest to survivors aka take a page out their own book.
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Can we get read of all aura read add ons it's unhealthy for the game oh and Franklin's demise exist use it
@BorisDDAA said:
Bnp has been nerfed like 1000 times already. And weaving spiders is a killer perk.
Ye omg do I HATE that perk , last night running a not so good huntress Feng and Lara did 1 gen each and what was yui doing? you guessed it, maybe it would have been 3 to 4 gens instead but no let's waste time with weaving spider, and people say distortion users are bad, spirnt burst, urban fixated,bond woo and weaving users are 10x worst than distortion users.
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I want ada claire leon and chris updated, sure claire was finally change but she still looks off, ada overall her face specially on re 4 dress just seem off. Leon and Chris face was ruined I believe when twins was updated or was vecnas release not sure. Jill, Carlos, Rebecca and Sheva is spot on perfect of how they look in their games so I know they can fix the other 4.