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As mention many times by me make it has only 4 tokens and then disabled rest of trial or let it only charge after the killer did things like hook survivors or kick/break things.
One perk should not be countering one of the few defense survivors have for 0 effort the same we hear of distortion countering all aura read for 0 effort.
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@SidneysBane1996 said:
Flashbang has been glitched for over half a year now and it's blinding in ways it should not be with no warning. I've never not once met a multiple flashy squad who WASN'T trying to ruin the Killer's day, they're like sabo wiggle people that way. And I hate, absolutely LOATHE, the terrible perk design of Blast Mine, which punishes Killers for bothering to defend gens at all and helps force use of perks like Grim or Pain Res to ignore the blinding entirely, despite Blast Mine being an objectively crappy perk.
Why?
Because I have sensory issues and I cannot stand the blind effect going off every several seconds. And I know I'm not alone in this. I can avoid them just fine but there's no avoiding being in an animation lock and going into a blind, or being caught off guard by someone dropping a flashbang inside your character model which should NEVER. HAPPEN.
I will continue to use Lightborne as needed. It should never be touched, it's fine. Blinding is an accessibility nightmare for people like me.
Stop griefing Killer players with sensory concerns and pretending it's just fun troll gameplay. It's not and I'm tired of pretending it is. We ALL know why you and your SWF actually do it.
I mean clowns gas bothers me along with mending acreen as someone who has bad eye sight even with a screen guard and glasses and plague vomiting affects a friend of mine with eating disorders.
Tru3talent mention that bill and bubba saw affects him with ( forgot what it called that he has) which makes his ears go ring ring. So its not just killer mains that can suffer sensory things from the game, survivors also have it too and indirectly being griefed by the examples I gave because I do not condone dcing so am force to suffer mend or clown gas sensory effects.
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Here is the thing op, its called hypocrisy and am going to break this down.
Lets start with tunneling. Survivors make a post about tunneling and the usual response is just run otr and ds. We run the said perks but then they qq it needs to be nerfed, it is being abused to body block the rescuer from damage and both gets away. Now killers claim that survivors should be working as a team cause its team game yet when a survivors do work as a team(mostly swf) they complain such as the example I gave with the otr ds use saying survivors are abusing it.
Next is perks. Survivors hated and got tired of the 1million aura reading things we have now. Now lets say someone say am tired of lethal Pursuer or no where to hide or any aura stuff. Killers say= use distortion but look it was used but got nerfed to garbage with the million qq posts.
Now lets say a killer complains about exhaustion perks. Survivors say just run mindbreaker= killers get mad and say its niche, weak and I shouldn't have to run such a weak perk btw they do run it though particularly wraiths, myers, ghosty since they hate if they are trying to stalk or sneak hit you but the survivor meep meep away with sprint burst.
If they complain about flashbangs and bgp and we say use lightborn, they say shouldn't have to run that yet at the same time many of them brag and say how they use lightborn as base kit even if its 0 flashlights in the lobby.
We complain about noed and find it a crutch( it actually is and forever will be the biggest crutch out of any killer perk and i also put rancor in that one too. Both those perks give kills that the killer shouldn't deserve for the survivors playing well and complete their objectives for the killer failing their job to capture the survivors. We are told run detective hunch,small game etc or in rancor case hide and try to let your team help you escape etch which again only a swf can protect their teamate as solo q will not know rancor in play till it procs the obsession.
Look at conspicuous actions. Remember the good old days when a bad killer would try to tunnel you loop them well all match so they are ego busted and will throw the game to tunnel you out yet you still ran em for all gens?
Now lets say you got down somehow and now being face camp to death when the exit gate opens, someone rescues you they even took 2 hits for you to swap, killer is so mad wants you dead, they slug your teamate intent to still kill you and goes to down you again but what happened? Surprise you doink em in the neck with ds and victory dance about it, but now you cant do that no more cause of what? Conspicuous actions!!!!!!! So overall this being added already shows that to me bvhr wants the survivor some to get a kill even if they do not deserve it. I mean yeah I know people will try come back with the but the hatch is the same thing and that I admit and respect as I care not much for hatch anyways.
In conclusion what am saying is if survivors complain and want something change killers will say skill issue, get good, work as a team entitlement etch. If we do what they say and run x perk, work as a team and what takes no skill, it is being abused, its unfair etch. We cant win man.
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No I am playing SURVIVOR and amma do everything I can to SURVIVE. That is like me asking and hoping the killer will allow me to get the achievement that I need to be the last one alive and repair the last gen and escape. That is not bad sportsmans ship nore is it burger king, cant always have it your way.
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@SidneysBane1996 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3852244#Comment_3852244
They will stop nerfing Survivor perks when they stop nerfing Killer perks. That will be never.
Yeah ofc you would try to use that come back, but do remember killers are always the one first to complain and ask for survivors perks to be nerfed, its only fair the survivors asks for the same thing. How about both sides stop asking for nerfs of each other things?
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@SidneysBane1996 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3852277#Comment_3852277
How has it increased at all if it's always been a thing? I don't think people want the Finisher that bad, it's just a faster way to end the round…
Yes it has been a thing always but it has gotten worst because it was more like a 50 50 whether the killer does hook the third or not before finisher mori came. This finisher mori update every match always now is third survivor slugged for the 4k to see the stale out of date mori.
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Never mind false alarm sorry.
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Of all killers pyramid head I feel should have all of it, poor thing has not one single add on, how is it possible his add ons is all trash, then you got plague where all her add ons are good and some annoying op. Usually iri seal and tablet.
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I think amma just do a recommended get gens done in 40 seconds builds. Usually am not the type to want to encourage gen rushing but since slugging and this finisher mori wont be addressed.The gloves are off.
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@Sandt1985 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3852298#Comment_3852298
Oh, they can move and try to hide if they want, but if the killer cant find them afterword, they lose the right to complain.
Sometimes hooking right away isn't the smart move. Thats not opinion, thats just a factDeer stalker easy fix.
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@smurf said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3831748#Comment_3831748
Do you mean that because hatch exists alongside challenges requiring a 4k, that players are slugging for 4k in order to ensure they complete their challenges? If so, I'd say that's definitely a contributing factor to the number of slug for 4k instances. But that already existed before the update; I think it wouldn't likely contribute much to the increased incidence of these behaviors a lot of people are talking about since the finisher mori update.
But I think that OP is right that various bm playstyles have gotten significantly worse since the finisher mori was released. I've also definitely seen bm directly centered around getting the free mori. Personally, I've even already had situations where the killer hit me repeatedly on hook because they had the slug down near me and wanted me to let them do the finisher mori. It's really just adding bm to the game for the sake of some annoying animation.
It's gotten so bad for me that I've actually not even played the game in the last couple days because I don't feel like dealing with the increased chance of tunneling, proxy camping, and slugging for 4k I've seen lately. Every time I think of playing it, I just get this feeling like it's going to be a bad experience, and instead just go watch some videos.
Exactly they be hitting third hooked person repeatedly and with the 4th some goes as far as to even let the survivor bleed out up 95% then use it.
But let them be ignorant and these killers are the same ones with omg swf bully squad, omg survivors dc or giving up it never will change at this rate.
I been enjoying streaming and playing other things and am glad identity v being even if its more child like is far more fun and almost no toxicity compare to this mess.
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@Sandt1985 said:
Just want to through out a quick scenario: If a survivor is downed, and the killer sees another survivor nearby, its smart to try to get an injure or down on the second survivor if they are really out of position. However, sometimes, the first survivor then crawls away to hide so the killer can't hook them
If you crawl away to hide, resulting in the killer being unable to find you, then you do NOT get the privilege of complaining about slugging. You brought that case on yourselfYour always trying to twist things around, if you get GREEDY and slug a person to try injure and down another instead of hooking the first person you downed, then the slugged one has the right to waste your time as you wasted theirs.
Your literally saying the person the person you down first should wait there for you to try get another person and create free snow balling lol?
I swear killer mains do any and everything to justify their rotten play style yet have an audacity to find a way to make it seem the survivor is at fault always.
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They should put the 2 hook rule to it but I rather it be removed. I lol all these killers acting as if we do not know camping,slugging and tunneling aint a thing befire finisher mori, the point is slugging has increased 100000 folder.
Always trying to use survivor t bag excuse is so stupid because you can progress the game by whacking them out which also give you bp. A slugged person cannot do anything and unbreakable and expo niche and garbage uses is a poor excuse of a solution.
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If they stop nerfing every decent perk survivors get, shrinking and nerfing maps and making busted and easy to play killers they have been doing as lately, maybe it will stop.
However looking at other aspect too I have seen whether am survivor or killer where the game could have been won by survivors but the rage quitting tiny timmy leaves. Usually its the gen jockey who dies in 10 seconds wanna kamikaze cause they did not want to be found at all while. Like you gotta understand the looper is the reason you did 2 to 3 gens and you do other things other than twisting wires.
Then you have the weird moment where a person loops for 2 to 3 gen and get down and gives up on first hook, like I gemaubybe you wanted a 5 gen run and 0 hook challange but kamikaze cause of ego is pathetic.
Once more this why people should stop complaining about swf so mich, a swf is most to almost never dc vs solo q. Honestly win or lose when I vs a swf I have never have a dc on me like I get 95% of time on solo q. This again is why I barely play unless am a full 4 man.
I think a slight fix that can work is people who gets chased and loops killer as long as possible should always have the highest points. It is unfair imo to the looper to get last place while gen jocky gets first. Idv does this and that is why being chase on it always feel good. You can do all 5 cipers and get the least points out the team for not doing anything else lol.
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@Doxie said:
I don't know about anyone else....but if I'm one of the last two survivors in a match and the other person is slugged by a killer looking for end game moir....I will hide and evade. Sorry BHVR....you made your bed. When I play in a group and I'm the person down ...I tell whoever I'm playing with the same thing. The last survivor moir is horrible and I won't feed I won't feed into it. I've even been known to hide and wait out the end game timer just to waste their time like they've wasted mine.
Oh don't feel bad at all if am the last person and if they do hook the third and hatch is found , I hide and let egc kill me to deny their stale out of date mori. It seem to makes them very angry since they come into my stream to qq about it. The best part is spamming fast vaults just when entity proc as the revengeful hahahaha you didnt find me.
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This sound like the usual I raised my mmr so high via tunneling/slugging/camping and got destroyed by competent survivors post.
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Quentin, Yoichi, Clarie and that legendary Renato skin with the call of duty person , am glad to be a very rare appearing p100 yoichi and get alot of shocks gives me a celeb feel.
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@not_Queef said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3850875#Comment_3850875
Somebody tried to do this the other day but they are still blessing so we don't yet know the result.
Fair enough ill check in 2 business days xd.
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@Volcz said:
Although I don't think its warranted, I can't help but smile @ all the biased killer mains.
Killer mains did the same thing with Distortion, Iron Will, even some complaining about WoO, etc.. so in a way, this is just payback.
Reap what you sow.
Say it again they are so hypocritical always acting like they don't the same thing. See all the shoulder of burden perk complaints? I still have yet seen anyone run it lol.
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@thrkeybs said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3850579#Comment_3850579
Do you play survivor?
Just wondering if you can also see how almost all of your posts have this extremely biased and even condescending attitude about any opinion that goes against yours, and how biased all your takes are.I have them on ignore cause you cant reason with a 100% killer main. It has been paradise not being notified by them.
Back on topic
Just like how killers qq about wglf then toth deserves the same treatment.
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Hate to ask but anyone by chance know long it would take to bless a hex totem with this meta? I have yet to vs this toth outbreak but as I saw complaints of it, I stopped playing.
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@radiantHero23 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3850817#Comment_3850817
I'm sorry, but you are delusional.
LOL.
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It has been 2 to almost now 3 years and your complaining about this now? Am sure people have at least 2 minimum p100s and stop acting as if its a survivor only thing. P100 killers also can have unlimited annoying iri stuff too.
You have a perk call Franklin's if you hate syringes so much and if you let a syringe proc( btw it was nerfed along with all medkits and med kits add on) that is on you for the survivor outplaying you. Worst if hit by sloppy the syringe takes about 15 or 20 seconds to proc
Also you as a killer have unlimited use of your add ons in a match. Survivors items are limited in use and survivors do not have a perk to disable your add ons. Imagine if we could use a syringe or bnp infinitely? Like I swear these killer mains but its survivors who always complain and whine about everything.
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@Lixadonna said:
I saw a big streamer run Thrill of the Hunt buillds with the sole intent of making people miserable.
Especially when it is other streamers playing with either solo q or their group so that they can make these toxic ttv pathetic ytd videos to give said streamer a bad name
There is a certain someone whos really good at it but I will not mention name but its lame how people do this
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Well if all the maps was not the size of a dunkin donuts spawning 3 to 4 gens neck to neck that would have have been fine.
But killers new habit lately is immediate finding 3 4 gen spawns and proxy camping them, am shocked there is not a topic about this.
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You caught me off guard with the title because i was looking through patch notes like crazy and like are you SERIOUS!!! undocumented things again!!?
But yeah seriously some people are so bitter and miserable with life they do these these things. These are probably people too who hack peoples Pii and cc information too e.e
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They could also remove the unnecessary cleanse debuff to calm spirit, a perk you tend not to see even though I have it as base kit lol.
As much as I love and rather harden, spending time to do a totem and a chest is too much time wasting.
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Ok then reduce all killer speed to 110%
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The boops I give to pigs are pallets and flashbangs cause I hate that killer.
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Very rarely and honestly I only do it on trevor if am not feeling to use alucard since trevor has a perm gash scar on his chest so it matches the bloody outfit in that aspect.
It actually turns me off on all the other characters and yeah I admit I like to look stylish I wish the whole stupid cant mix certain cosmetics thing just simply goes.
Like example I remember there was a bug on Gabriel purple like outfit with the black visor. I liked I was able to mix his rift skin blue hair with that purple skin and it was cool till bhvr fixed it to not be mixed again.
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I kinda agree and see what Op means, you have some killers who believe in the whole lore thing and tunnels their survivor counter part, like nemesies going only for re characters.
This can happen at times with chapters that include survivor and killer. Then again you had Mikaela use to be a killer priority when she was released cause old love circle of healing.
I did experienced a taurie hard tunneled by a portia no matter how many flash light and body block I did for her as my other 2 friends slam gen and we each took over guard duty, in the end it was a 3s ofc with poor hero taurie dead lol.
Interesting as wesker came out I always wanna be chased by him as leon(chris). I also like it when am alucard and its a drac that whole son vs father thing is fun and depending on the match i may make drac or wesker mori me like specially if they had a rough game. I had a drac came into my stream and said thank you my dear son for giving him the mori after a rough game where it would have been a 4 s. I was like your welcome papa 🤭
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I want leon and ada re 6 skins. Sherry could also be nice legendary skin and jake as a legendary wesker skin.
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@Shroompy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3847431#Comment_3847431
It really aint tho
Well i played evil dead I dont hear demons complain on swf just survivors in general, I played re resistance, I do not hear master minds complaining of swf just surviviors in general I play tcm I do not hear family complaining about swf only victims in general. Identity v no complaints about swf. So am trying to see which other games do people qq on swf other than dbd.
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Why is this the only game people moans so much about people rather playing with family and friends than with rage quitting solo q baby Timmies, can anyone tell me please?
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Like billy no matter how much distance you get he just teleports to you with no slow down if he pods you, it also dont help he has a some what built in spirit fury making pallets only half to no effect its so dumb. Even nurse suffers greatly from missed blinks for distance gaining and possibly los.
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@Marzipan210 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3844549#Comment_3844549
Nearly every killer uses their power at windows and pallets. That is the ######### point of killer powers.
3% haste is barely anything and YOU THE SURVIVOR gave it to her by tripping her power. Do you think survivor perks like sprint burst, lithe, and balanced that give survivors MORE HASTE FOR EXISTING should be removed too? Or are you only applying your "logic" to killer?Back up a second, 3% was not that huge? Oh but 3% mft was and had on billion qq topic to nerf.
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Pressing m2 and getting 7 benefits for 0 thinking deserves no apology for the washing machine.
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I barely get dcs from survivors myself and I play wesker, vecna and trickster. Although if I see my favorite survivors like any re character, a yoichi or a castlevania char I just wanna be nice and give them pallets and what not, specially if I need a challenge to do things like break pallets.
If dc do happen I try my hardest not to go too hard and I seem to always get positives in my stream from the survivors especially if they are streamers as well since I am one. It pays to play nice most times for me at least.
I had one team even commend my vecnas ( my second time using when I got 11 hooks and I felt I could have done better with like how I just throw the dispel sphere mindlessly and I lol when one of them said that was the only questionable thing they wonder about the bad ball throwing I was doing compared to how I use mage hand/flight well. 🤭
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@HerInfernalMajesty said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3847253#Comment_3847253
Neat 😊
Are you excited for the Junji Ito collection in Dbd?
My friend is for sure cause he know about the series, I do not know nothing about it lol, but I would love a persona 5 crossover hehe.
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Identity v has their versions of this already.
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@Vishlumbra said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3847217#Comment_3847217
It’s not surprising that you didn’t see Shoulder the Burden much on its first day. Many players are still experimenting with the new patch and learning how to incorporate the perk into their builds. Meta-shifting perks like this often take time to catch on because players need to fully understand their potential before they become widely used.
The perk’s true power shines in coordinated teams with strategic synergy, but it shouldn’t be dismissed in solo queue either. Even in solo games, its ability to trade hook stages can keep teammates in the match longer, provide extra chances for recovery, and drastically alter the killer’s strategy. A single player running it effectively in solo can still swing the tide of a match, especially when combined with perks like Decisive Strike or exhaustion perks.
Just because you didn’t see it much yesterday doesn’t mean it won’t become a major staple as players refine their builds. We’ve seen this pattern before with other perks—many seemed “meh” at first, only to dominate the meta later. If this perk becomes popular, it’s easy to see why it would raise concerns about its impact on game balance. It’s still early, but the implications are already being recognized.
I heard the same thing of pre blood rush and new bloodrush. Heck am shock even babysitter that got buffed aint even meta since they buffed it massively and its stupid op with a certain build I will keep to myself.
Good swfs that know how to loop already wont use this garbage better off using reassurance or cammadre. But its fine if it gets nerf people just will just cry meta meta again when everyone then runs back to the same old stuff🫠 RadiantHero has already given valid points so I shall say no more.
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I am sorry op but honestly I to agree with everyone that she is not too bad, I was thinking she be pinhead 2.0. but he is far more stronger and more annoying than her and even pre dropping works nice against her like her boyfriend the clown.
The dog will vault the drop pallet and all you simple do is move just even a few inches to the left or right to dodge and it becomes stuck lol. Knight was even more a menance than her.
I only lost to 2 out 10 of them so far and that was cause my teammates was ofc bad looping which your to expect 90% of solo q. She is actually weak for real lol.
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In my 8 hours stream yesterday 30 of them being solo q matches and the rest full swf seen not one person bought this perk.
Ofc my swf and I have 0 use for it but wow I must be very unlucky with solo q since o one bought it, not that I care for this perk. So whether or not it gets nerfed oh well.
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These newbie trap perks are worst than people with urban or self care, I much rather those two than innovations. Had a match where we had 3 gens done and while am being chased by doctor 2 of them in basement doing innovation, like bro that could have been the last 2 gens and idk wth the last person was doing.
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No because at least am sure at least 80% of players are glad 2 v 8 gone. Sorry I love to loop and 2 v 8 dont give that when killers wanna double tap like 2.0 knights.
The game play itself becomes stale quickly cause lets admit perks tend to make you want to try new things even if they are niche.
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Good now I do not have to get boring scratch mirror myers as easily or lamewitch elementwry school,hawkins haddon field and the now many killer sided maps as easily time to burn 500 hoarding I have on my p100 leon and p 100 yoichi.
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No thanks me mending 100 times per match is already enough. Legion has what no other killers has and that is fast vaults of windows and pallets, even wesker cant just fast vault unless he power on a pallet and window.
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I got my adept with her only cause we had a rage quitting timmy sable who out herself on her first down, thanks to the vecna I got both the eye/hand challenge +adept taurie bless that person.
I also do not get why the rare times I get vecna's people give up on him and he aint even that hard to go against or maybe its cause I play him to know his ups and downs + like going against him as a survivor.
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Working on my third being daddy Trevor.