Zesty

@DBD78 said:
Nerfing one of the least played killers in the game is really strange. I just don't understand it.

Exactly! And now for the people that do play them (Like myself) We are basically being told to camp, as the ability to down with Victor is now non existent... So if this change was to stop people playing them all together... Thats not gonna happen, in fact the same people are going to play them, but they will be hated even more then they are now!

in I don't understand the twins nerf Comment by Zesty April 15, 2021

@Warcrafter4 said:
The reasoning is simple:
The developers don't want people to play the killer anymore so they nerfed them into the ground and make them as unfun to play as possible so they don't have to deal with them anymore.
I mean its what they tried to do to both nurse and billy to get people to shut up about them. Both had changes to make them horribly unfun to play and they have been weakened enough for the developers to ignore them.

Id say they need to take the Twins out of the game for a week or so... Completely rework them, make Charlotte more interactive and not just an M1 killer and make them more fun to play as and against... Camping needs to be fixed and once that is all done, put them back in the game... Hopefully they are being changed in the next Mid chapter as this is the most unnecessary change the devs have ever done!

#JusticeForTwins #RevertChanges

in I don't understand the twins nerf Comment by Zesty April 15, 2021

@Zarathos said:
They nerfed the twins in the worst way they could exposing viktor to be kicked even more. Lets be honest viktor being kickable whilst necessary is the main reason people hate playing the killer making that occur more frequently is jusy giving players even less of an incentive to play them.
Charlotte needs a purpose that more then m1 killer that deploys viktor. Because a 4.6 killer with no power is awful. Whikst viktors is down charllote is just awful to play and there should be some way for charllote to be empowered by viktor. An increase in speed upon hitting someone with viktor would go a long way to fix her map traversal issues and it would mean on loops she would pressure pallets drops sooner.

Yeah! And considering the lore, she is supposed to not let anyone hurt her brother, and if they do she is supposed to be like enraged i guess... In game she is just a standard M1 killer, and if a survivor kicks Victor, even DIRECTLY in front of her face... She literally does absolutely nothing....

in I don't understand the twins nerf Comment by Zesty April 15, 2021

@Haddix said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/243048/i-dont-understand-the-twins-nerf
funny thing is, charlotte has had camera control in the transition for over a month or two now. this change isnt new and idk why they're acting like it is.
i think it was actually just to distract us from the fact that they got a pretty awful feeling nerf.

OMG exactly i was just saying that lol! This change was unjustified and needs to be reverted immediately!

#JusticeForTwins #RevertChanges

in I don't understand the twins nerf Comment by Zesty April 15, 2021

@Zesty said:
Everyone! The devs are refusing to listen, ive posted on their twitter, FB and on the forums! Been Twins main since release and i wont take anymore stupid changes from the devs! Slugging is not a good enough justification for these nerfs, thats like saying every time Oni downs a survivor from now on, he must stay still for 5 seconds, his power bar will go to 0, then he can pick up the survivor, as thats what is happening to Twins right now, you are literally a sitting duck for the survivors, 3 seconds was long enough, its the survivors fault for not kicking him...
At this current moment i wouldn't even be mad if they took them out of the game for a week, fixed all their problems like camping, and buffed them in areas which they needed, as this was a lazy change, given the fact there is literally no animation for the new nerf...
#JusticeForTwins #RevertChanges !!!!!!!!!!
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/242946/why-do-the-devs-keep-on-making-unnecessary-changes-to-killers-twins#latest

And if im not mistaken, Charlotte already had full camera control, or at least half before this change, so its just to distract us from the inevitable and bad change they will be making!

in I don't understand the twins nerf Comment by Zesty April 15, 2021

Everyone! The devs are refusing to listen, ive posted on their twitter, FB and on the forums! Been Twins main since release and i wont take anymore stupid changes from the devs! Slugging is not a good enough justification for these nerfs, thats like saying every time Oni downs a survivor from now on, he must stay still for 5 seconds, his power bar will go to 0, then he can pick up the survivor, as thats what is happening to Twins right now, you are literally a sitting duck for the survivors, 3 seconds was long enough, its the survivors fault for not kicking him...

But its even worse for the Twins... Charlotte literally has to walk the entire map sometimes to pick up a Survivor, meaning by the time she gets to them, especially if they have WGLF, their power is going to feel useless.

At this current moment i wouldn't even be mad if they took them out of the game for a week, fixed all their problems like camping, and buffed them in areas which they needed, as this was a lazy change, given the fact there is literally no animation for the new nerf...

#JusticeForTwins #RevertChanges !!!!!!!!!!

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/242946/why-do-the-devs-keep-on-making-unnecessary-changes-to-killers-twins#latest

in I don't understand the twins nerf Comment by Zesty April 15, 2021

@Irisora said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2110928#Comment_2110928
Exactly. Almost no one play them and for some unknow reasons they decided to come with this nerfs. I hope it doesn't go live.

Me to and for the reasoning of "slugging" its just a kick in the leg honestly... LITERALLY Oni, nurse can all slug better than twins!

in Why do the devs keep on making unnecessary changes to killers? (Twins) Comment by Zesty April 15, 2021

@WishIcouldmain said:
What are twins?

A killer with a unique power, that the community neglect as they were released in a poor manner, but they were finally in a good state, but the Devs are now nerfing them, putting them into the dust for good... I will not take this!

in Why do the devs keep on making unnecessary changes to killers? (Twins) Comment by Zesty April 15, 2021

I think this is the coolest idea! Would allow for a cool new mechanic that we haven't really seen with other killers...

in Idea for a trickster buff/rework? ❤ Comment by Zesty April 10, 2021

TBH, till we actually get them in the live game... We won't know for sure whether he will be to strong or not?

in Will Trickster be TOO oppressive after the buffs? Comment by Zesty April 8, 2021

@some_guy1 said:
you mean the wake up animation after victor pounces a survivor?
if it's not the thing im talking about can you record it?

Yep the wake up animation! Its awful now! So clunky

in Either Bug OR Shadow Nerf! Comment by Zesty March 30, 2021

@papichulo said:
#########, why is there no love for PAIN RELIEVER-

I love his content! I said I can't add more xd

in Who is your favourite DBD content creator? Comment by Zesty March 27, 2021

FNAF Spring Trap <3

in Which license do you want more? Comment by Zesty March 12, 2021

@Tzeff_NL_YOUTUBE_0 said:
Why did you group them together??? I LOVE the Twins: great design and good skills/gameplay.
I hate the Trickster: Awful killer design AND skills too!
Design: Unlike all the other killers, he doesn't look like a creepy killer at all. He couldn't even have his own horror movie! He looks and SHOULD BE a Survivor!!
Skills: His rapid throwing knives make him look like an Overwatch hero! He should be the only knives-throwing Survivor (with a 60-second cooldown at tiee 1) who can slow the killer down.

You just pick one, there are to many options otherwise to make a poll xd

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 10, 2021

@PeaceNGrease said:
Inb4 Trickster release (He looks trash, but admittedly pretty damn fun).
The twins feel like they are currently amongst the least explored killers out there currently, which I think is a crime. This pair is possibly the most fun I've had in DBD in a long time, they feel strong enough to fit nicely into high ranks (I've been having PLENTY of success, and not just with camping, although with their kit, it's pretty much redundant) and they can split the game in such a way that no other killer can... Very unique style of play (which is arguably more than the trickster even has)
And sure, they don't have the best perk synergy out there.... But Victor is really that powerful that he doesn't need perks behind his downs. He gives a ridiculous amount of information and utility when he hits a healthy survivor, while making it all the easier to benefit off of m1 hit perks because you will know where the survivor is after landing vic now, and on top of that you get oblivious which means to that survivor, you might as well be a stealth killer unless they remove vic immediately (which as we all know, is not favorable to survivors most of the time).
They get SOOO much from their kit it is honestly overwhelming what they can get away with... And what I've spoken of only scratches the surface...
From having possibly THE best add ons in game (pretty much the most useful expose add on their is because it's simply set and forget, survivors will almost always kick victor or regret not doing) not to mention the one that makes victor a better franklin's demise,
To having possibly the best 4 gen coverage in the game, I mean if played right the pressure can be unreal
And the mindgaming their kit allows for (such as hiding certain m1 perks behind victor hits, keeping pwyf and stbfl stacks
What more can you ask for?
What do you all think? Is the killer super fun to play? Who do you think is more interesting? What don't you like about twins?

Hey!!! It sounds like you are possibly about to main the Twins :) That's great news ! I made the Ultimate Twins guide, if you would like to know the ins and outs of the killer I would really recommend that you check it out <3 https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest Thanks and welcome to the journey that is maining this killer xd

in Are twins the most fun killer in DBD currently? Comment by Zesty March 10, 2021

@Moxie said:
It's really not fun running Victor across the entire map, attempting a pounce, missing and then being crushed.
A literal waste of all the effort you put in and you are right back where you started.
Super fun.

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest Here is a guide on how to play them, i hope it helps... For your situation it sounds like you aren't waiting out the jukes and are getting kicked early, to combat this either bring the stale biscuit addon or attempt at waiting for the jukes <3

in Are twins the most fun killer in DBD currently? Comment by Zesty March 10, 2021

@daggersnight said:
The main problem with the Twins (imo) is most people play them like dicks. They can camp hooks like no tomorrow and that is just the default play style a lot of people use for them. Even more so when they don't give them a chance. I stand by the Twins being a good pressure killer just DON'T HOOK CAMP. Actually go out and use the fact you are two people in one to your advantage. Plus Victor flies far for a little dude. Long range snipe people.

Exactly it's sad that most people play them like this, it usually means that they are inexperienced however... I have an amazing guide on the Twins you should check it out ❤️ it's called the ultimate twins guide in the guide section ❤️https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest Here's the link

in Why I started maining Twins Comment by Zesty March 10, 2021

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008544#Comment_2008544
Lol yep, there's a notable lack of an "it's not an issue" button :D

low prioritty????

in Third Party Services and your thoughts on them. Comment by Zesty March 9, 2021

@fogdonkey said:
Maybe they should add voice chat communication like e.g. in Counter Strike. Then all survivors, even solo, could talk to each other.

But then the whole game would be SWF which would be 20 times worse xd

in Third Party Services and your thoughts on them. Comment by Zesty March 9, 2021

@fogdonkey said:
Not ideal, but another quick solution is simply just don't be pissed if you lose against an SWF. You know they are an SWF, you know it is hard, so then just accept that they will most likely easily win.

I get what you are saying but its so hard to get over the fact that they won because of something they used to gain a competitive advantage... :(

in Third Party Services and your thoughts on them. Comment by Zesty March 9, 2021

@Yords said:
I have been thinking about this a lot lately. I never really thought much about it before, but you are right in saying that the game was not designed for this specifically. I mean, now that I think of it, it actually is pretty unfair for the killer. But I am not sure how you would fix this. Would you completely nerf it or get rid of it? Or somehow give the killer something when against SWF groups to compensate? It is also a very hard thing to fix because most SWF groups love using voice chat to play with each other.
Honestly, the best solution to this I have heard so far is to enable proximity voice chat in the game. But it doesn't take a genius to say what is wrong with that. I believe the levels of toxicity in this game rival the salt from RUST, and that is saying something. But you know what? On the serious side, voice proximity chat would allow better solo queue coordination in general and since the killer would hear them, abrupt intervention by the killer would prevent them from communicating properly making stealth killers and stealth powerful because they could spy on survivors for information.
Voice proximity chat is definitely a very scary thing (for most people since a lot of children) because of the sheer toxicity that can come from it. I can already hear it now: "Toxic piece of poop camper" or "f-bombing duckhead". However, the only thing stopping proximity chat from being in-game I believe is the fear of toxicity. I myself could handle a 25-year-old man or woman cussing me out in-game (I mean they already do in other games lmao), but could a mentally unstable person or young child handle it? Probably not, and that is scary which is why it makes it hard to implement.

Literally perfect analogy lol... They would definitely need to add a mute button!!

in Third Party Services and your thoughts on them. Comment by Zesty March 9, 2021

@JimboMason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008304#Comment_2008304
Thanks! I'll go ahead and give it a look. Maybe it'll spark some interest into the killer.

I hope so to!! Let me know what you think <3

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 9, 2021

@JimboMason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008304#Comment_2008304
Thanks! I'll go ahead and give it a look. Maybe it'll spark some interest into the killer.

:) I hope so to and thank you very much... Let me know what you think <3

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 9, 2021

@JimboMason said:
Twins has a very flawed design where you can only really win by slugging and tunneling, but really you can do this much better with literally any other killer imo.

Here is a link to my VERY in depth Twins guide... It makes me sad that people are using them in such scummy ways... Im rank 1 and I almost never slug... I would love it if you could upvote it and have a little read through xd... https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 9, 2021

@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006608#Comment_2006608
Honestly I’m impressed. Seems like you put in a lot of time and effort to make that guide so thank you so much. I’ve been playing the Twins a bit lately and they’re pretty fun to play.

Thank you <3

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 9, 2021

@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006632#Comment_2006632
Much appreciated.
That being said, I did write this from a survivor's perspective, and I really never got Twins as good as you; just face campers and pathological sluggers. I'll try out your tips for when I play her, though. Maybe babyslinging will turn out to be more fun than deathslinging.

Trust! :) all the streamers just bandwagon on the hate train which in turn led everyone else to do the same thing <3 There are endless strategies to be had when playing them! Even though slugging is strong with them there is no denying that! I think there are many more fun and interesting ways to play them that wont interfere with the fun factor of the game as a whole <3

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@RepostRiposte said:
Twins are literally built to proxy-camp.

Talking about twins.... Here is my ULTIMATE Twins guide <3 Hopefully it will change your perception on the ideal way to play them <3 https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@Brokenbones said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006622#Comment_2006622
I'll check this out! I don't hate the twins, I just think their power being released unfinished + Charlotte lacking a power of her own aside from Victor makes them seem badly designed.
ngl though Trickster's design is worse imo, hence why I picked that poll option.

Trickster is a half huntress half plague copy and paste with half the power lol

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@ShamelessPigMain said:
Twins makes the mistake of bridging the gaps required to counter tunneling and camping, which isn't really healthy for anybody. A major issue of camping is that survivors will just churn through objectives, with the knowledge that you can only be at one place at a time (being in front of the hook). Now, with their dual presence, you can park Charlotte in front of the hook and go on a rampage with Victor's considerably faster speed. Then, you can switch back and not worry about BT. Plus, Victor is ridiculously good at slugging. With incredible mobility and a very difficult to counter lunge (once you get the hang of it; inexperienced Twins are going to suck). There is little interesting counterplay to them and they encourage camping.
Plus, I've played Twins for a while and they are just not that interesting. I prefer to throw hatchets instead of babies.

Hey! I understand your frustrations with the Twins as the people behind them playing them are just doing the most obnoxious strategies :( Here is a link to my twins guide that may change your perception on the way they actually should/can be played <3 https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@Brokenbones said:
A few months ago I would've said Blight
However I actually really enjoy his power and think it's one of the better designed ones
Has to be Twins and Trickster for me personally.

Talking about twins.... Here is my ULTIMATE Twins guide <3 Hopefully it will change your perception on the ideal way to play them <3 https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@Zesty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006606#Comment_2006606
The problem is is that its the player behind them that makes it frustrating to play against... The way i play Twins is very different to others and i think its a lot more fair <3 Check out my guide if you dont believer me <3 https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest

Bubba can be frustrating coz he is op when camps.... Nurse can be frustrating coz she can 4 man slug at 5 gens with infectious... I think the argument that was made is a little silly :)

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@ClownIsUnderrated said:
Twins, I would love to know who at BHVR approved of putting the most unhealthiest killer in the game that does things that survivors hate.

The problem is is that its the player behind them that makes it frustrating to play against... The way i play Twins is very different to others and i think its a lot more fair <3 Check out my guide if you dont believer me <3 https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@GannTM said:
Twins because the way to do well with them is to do boring and unhealthy play styles.

i disagree <3 Have a look at my guide here and it may change your mind :) https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@Bigbubbaboi said:
I would say twins because to get the most out of her people usually just slug a lot in the match
trickster we’ll have to see if he gets a buff I hope so

Oh and umm talking about twins hehhehe☺️ here is my ultimate twins guide... lol https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233212/the-ultimate-twins-guide#latest

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

Id say Oni - He relies to much on the survivors ######### up for him to be able to get his power... He could be an M1 killer the whole match if the survivors are top tier! My Proposed change would be to allow him to by default or by the use of an addon to be able to gain his power meter past the 99 percent threshold, so his power isn't so reliant on survivors messing up and hopefully increasing his power up time :)

in Who is the most poorly designed killer in the game (Not worst killer, the worst designed) Comment by Zesty March 8, 2021

@The_Krapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1970731#Comment_1970731
My son plays it and he's 9 so that logic is flawed , asking for FNAF in dbd is about like asking for the guy from hello neighbor to be killer it's just not scary and has a completely different feel to it that makes it seem more child friendly

Children play dbd :) and fnaf 1 - 4 were the most horrifying it was the games onwards which make it look childish. The lore of the whole series is disturbing look at my link if you dont believe me!