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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2389022#Comment_2389022
And I will again and again point out that such bare statements about queue times are empty and useless without proper context.
For example i played killer (like always) on Monday evening in euw at 9pm on PC with X-Play on and didn't even have the time to pick an offering before getting a lobby.
Is this standard for everyone just from my experience? Hell no and I guess so is yours.
Not as useless as complaining about survivors vaulting.
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You should try make a post that isn’t just ‘survivor bad’
also survivor queues are instant
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@SasukeKun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388980#Comment_2388980
no it's not but ok pop off
Yeah it is you’re literally saying survivors are toxic for playing the game
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388905#Comment_2388905
Well the bleedout timer is still just 4 minutes, except you think of the dribbling until drop and redown. Then yes, that is indeed toxic but will probably never lead to a 4k since the last survivor should've found hatch by then except it is done on top of the hatch.
But topic of this thread is or atleast should be in my eyes about the simply slug with 4 minute bleed out timer to get the last survivor. And that is just normal gameplay in my eyes just as 3 survivor trying to rescue the 4th at egc. Both sides have the right to play for a clean slate.
It’s not 4 minutes when you get picked up, downed, picked up, down, etc. It lasts longer than the rest of the match, it’s ridiculous.
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Jake + Quentin is canon
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Midwich is the worst map they’ve ever made, it’s awful gameplay wise, but also visually just looks disgusting.
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This is like saying:
Nothing but toxic killers, they keep injuring me instead of getting away in the chase.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388960#Comment_2388960
The problem is, and has always been, that unless players are perfectly synced (impossible unless both playing very close to the server with an awesome connection) then one side is always going to be favoured over the other. It's just a tug of war, does it favour the survivor, or the killer? You gotta pick one.
Survivor should be picked, as they generally have a heavier involvement in the looping.
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Survivors have had to deal with this for years on the other end, this is the best solution.
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You can only loop windows 3 times before it’s blocked? Most windows you can’t even loop that many times, try mindgaming it.
Survivors aren’t toxic for playing the game, vaulting a window in chase is literally as non-toxic as anything could be.
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@TripleSteal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388886#Comment_2388886
Iirc during one of their streams they said it is planned to be a new character rather than an update to an already existing survivor.
Can you link this? Besides, they can do both.
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388864#Comment_2388864
I love this one sided mentality.
Killer going for the 4k because hatch is always a factor (friendly or not friendly killer) -> damn those toxic pos killer and their sweating.
Killer going for 12 hooks (without camping and so on) and managing the 8th in egc -> survivor doing everything they can, probably armed with multiple dh, DS, ub and all bodyblocking because the killer basically lost at this point, according to their narrative.
(And yes just like most portrait every killer as a toxic/sweaty/camping/slugging/tunneling/
whatever killer, i cherry pick this scenario according to my playstyle,while I also dont care for kills anymore but want to shed some light one the other end of the spectrum.)
I don’t care if killers go for the 4k, I just don’t want the game to be extended by 10 minutes, and slugged multiple times. It’s not really one sided, it’s just common courtesy.
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@TripleSteal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388873#Comment_2388873
He could be or he could be not. Neither of the quotes indicates him being queer.
There's a whole set of reasons for one to feel excluded - childhood traumas, higher/lower intellectual capacities, family issues, race, health, being introverted overall, and so on. Different sexual preferences are just one of the many reasons somewhere in the middle of this list.
You’re right, but as the devs have said a LGBTQ+ character is coming, it’s only natural to speculate that Jake may be.
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@TripleSteal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388858#Comment_2388858
?
That's not the point, like at all.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388853#Comment_2388853
It is used both ways; it's not incorrect to refer to orientation as sexual preference as a broader concept. By your terms, I meant orientation indeed.
I’m not sure what your point is here then. There’s nothing wrong with speculating that a character could be queer.
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@SasukeKun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388857#Comment_2388857
There's still multiple parts of maps that can be taken advantage of, (HADDONFIELD) 1, Ex
Okay so if it’s not RPD or haddonfield, we can agree that it’s not okay to slugging for ages :)
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@TripleSteal said:
That's a very bold assumtpion.
Feeling like an outsider or different to others is not a trait unique to lgbt, not even close to that. Not everything revolves around sexual preferences.
Not everything revolves around it but it’s important to many people.
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@SasukeKun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388836#Comment_2388836
oh so but it's mandatory not to do so after he prob dealt with 5everloops, prob deserved it in that case
Unless it’s RPD I guarantee a good player isn’t going to deal with never ending loops lol
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@SasukeKun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2377508#Comment_2377508
Yes because you're trying to win on your side. why argue some in-between in this case?
Because it literally doesn’t matter if you kill 3 or 4, it’s one thing to go for it, and another to slug for 10 minutes sweating your brain out, incredibly selfish.
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But yeah, people have brought up some good points here as to why he may not be gay, but I’m going to choose to believe it for now :)
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The game is one of the most balanced maps in the game tbh. The safe pallets are basically required for it though, as the map offers many advantages to killers.
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Can’t comment since I played 10 games yesterday and never saw a single one
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@Unicorn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388773#Comment_2388773
It may be. I only saw the Iron Will buff. Did they also rework Object? ;o
They did a couple months ago, every 30 seconds you and the survivor see each other. Also, if you reveal their aura with a perk like BBQ, they get to see you too.
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Why would it be two licensed chapters in a row?
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@BingBongMan said:
Before this is taken down could you please link it? I've been wanting to read the lore early.
Here’s the full tome lore https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NN_1fwDZlWyTHpE4_BbM8uY6JqlhWqY-cDoZ5T9yQP8/edit?usp=sharing
if we could not discuss the clown + observer stuff here since I haven’t read it yet that would be appreciated
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@LiunUK said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387362#Comment_2387362
when they say original survivors I think they meant non-licenced not the survivors that were in the game on release
Still, I’d like to see what they said. Either way, it’s interesting.
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Hopefully, as it would trump whispers as the best perk for bullying the last survivor.
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What I’d give for a new good outdoor map, since the last outdoor map was… trash
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Very strong perk
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@Zokenay said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387421#Comment_2387421
Easy:
Joel and Tommy being downright idiotic with how much they let their guard down around Abby and co, specially Tommy which was BEGGING to have his home raided, and ill address this cause im sure youll bring the same stupid argument, getting softer over the years doesnt mean you lose over 20 years of experience, the way both acted almost made them look like people that were at the very start of the outbreak, which is funny cause Joel was already cautious at that time as seen when he ignored that family on the road.
Tommy constantly switches his stance on getting revenge trough the game and turns into a total ######### at the end.
Ellie portrayal during cutscenes and gameplay are completely disconnected
Ellie believing Joel's lie, the scene in the first game makes it really clear she didnt believe it with the face she made.
Ellie's treatment of Joel made her extremely unlikable, which was mainly caused by the above, regardless, she being so antagonistic towards him just felt out of place considering the reason Joel saved her in the first place.
Now regarding Abby, shes freaking awful...
Shes an idiot for starters, since she gets annoyed by Ellie going after her, like... what did you expect was gonna happen?, you go to her home, kill the person she was crying and screaming at you to not kill and expected she wouldnt care?, and not just her, same for Tommy which she knew was Joel's brother.
And the same goes for Lev, like, does he not care about his life or something? cause he changed gender being fully aware it would get him killed in his group.
Also regarding both, they are just discount Joel and Ellie, could they really dont come up with an original plot instead of trying to do the same dynamic Joel and Ellie had?
Abby is also a monster, this is proven multiple times, first with Joel, despite him saving her, she didnt hesitate to torture and kill him at all, not did she felt any remorse for her actions later on, she betrays her allies and kills them without hesitation to save two people she met like a day ago, she treats killing Scars like a sport, she rejoiced the idea of killing a pregnant woman, now Joel was no saint, but his actions were largely driven by survival, unlike Abby that seems to enjoy hurting others.
Regarding the remorse part, she didnt deserve to be forgiven by Ellie, that didnt made ANY sense, why? to begin with both barely interacted with each other, so Ellie has practically no reason to forgive her because theres barely any relationship between both, to Ellie, Abby is just a stranger that came one day and ruined her life, nothing else, and like i mentioned, Abby never felt any remorse for her actions.
Anyway i can keep going all day, TLOU2 is a disaster of writing, theres MANY more issues i can point out.
To your first point, it’s not just that having a safer life made them less cautious. They were in a desperate situation, and Abby fought with them, which would have developed some trust, especially from their perspective that they saved Abby’s life. As seen in notes in the game, it’s very common for Jackson members to help and recruit people in the area, they’ve probably done it dozens of times at this point, and presumably there hasn’t been major issues. It’s human to make mistakes, and in stressful life or death situations, people make them. Joel very quickly realises something is off, they didn’t make him stupid. A major part of the first game was how Joel began jaded, then had something to live for, and Ellie is the inverse of that, so it makes sense that Joel is not quite as pessimistic as he once was.
Tommy never wavers, he always wanted to take revenge. He simply doesn’t want to put Ellie in danger, which is why he leaves her, and then is willing to return with her, for her safety as she’s all he has left of Joel. After suffering a severe injury, and breaking up with Maria, it’s completely understandable that he would be even more into the idea of killing Abby as she has directly and indirectly cost him everything.
Not sure what you want to do about this, you have to suspend disbelief with gameplay and story in most games, this isn’t a TLOU2 issue.
The game never implies Ellie ever believed him, only that she WANTED to as that was easier.
Being unlikable doesn’t make a character bad, Ellie has immense survivor guilt and she’s projecting that anger at herself for being alive onto Joel. He took her purpose away, and is only able to try forgive him at the end, which reminds the player that she still loves him.
Abby is a hypocrite when she tells Ellie she saved her for sure, but this is literally after the person she loved died, I think it’s understandable why she wouldn’t be in the best mental place.
I don’t think it’s fair at all to blame Lev, as he is a child and in history, the threat of death hasn’t stopped lgbtq people being themselves.
Joel and Ellie really aren’t the same as Abby and Lev, it’s a parental bond vs more of a sibling bond. They also have the dynamic coming from rivalling groups, which is not something Joel and Ellie had to deal with. The point is that as Abby begins to view Lev (and the scars) as humans, despite being her enemies, we can sympathise with Abby despite her being the person who killed a character we love. That’s why Lev and Abby’s relationship is significant, it’s a metaphor.
Quite frankly, I would never forgive someone who killed my parent, even if they saved me, not sure who would. Also, it’s flat out false that Abby doesn’t feel remorse for her actions. She has nightmares before killing Joel, and still has them after, showing that her revenge on him didn’t make her feel any less angry. It’s only until she helps Lev & Yara, that they go away, as she’s making a positive decision in her life to help people, instead of hurting them. Again, the man Abby loved was literally just killed by Ellie, the fact that she’s able to control herself and spare her + Dina shows how she’s grown and is not a monster.
Ellie literally had to forgive Abby, as she knows damn well she crossed the line by threatening Lev, a child. She remembers how angry she was at Joel, and how that anger cost her time that she could’ve spent with Joel, and now her anger at Abby has cost her her love and adoptive child. She also saw how Abby’s first priority upon being cut down was taking Lev to safety, and that humanised Abby to a certain extent in Ellie’s eyes. Ellie is so exhausted at the end, she is tired of fighting, and only wants the pain to end, but knows after her experience in Seattle, the way to get over her pain is not with violence, it’s with love.
The first game is about overcoming loss with love, the second is about overcoming loss with hate, but then at the final hour backing down from hate to retain the last shred of humanity Ellie has.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387461#Comment_2387461
It sure doesn't feel that way, TBH. Feels like bi-erasure.
As someone who previously thought they were bi, I’d never want to erase bisexual people. As far as it goes for me, ‘gay’ in a general context includes anyone who isn’t straight and/or cis.
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If anyone can find where the devs said one of the og survivors is queer, I’d love to see it as it would be some more concrete proof that Jake could be gay
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387444#Comment_2387444
That person could be a woman, for all you know. Even if they're a man, Jake could still be bi. I don't know why everyone focuses on "G" when there's 4 letters in "LGBT", three of which pertain to sexual orientation.
Gay can be an umbrella term, in the same way as queer
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Good news everyone, I’ve just had two confirmations.
- Jake popped up on grindr, gonna try meet up with him.
- Behaviour just dmed me, saying he’s gay as #########
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@TacitusKilgore said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387146#Comment_2387146
We need more people simping for jake. Dude is seriously a 10/10 on the scale of pure attractiveness
Yeah new Jake is the most attractive man in this game by far
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@Snowbawlzzz said:
Jake ate my ass
New Jake or old Jake?
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@Satelit said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387404#Comment_2387404
They said that one of the original survivors is LGBT long ago,speculating whenever it's Jake or not makes perfect sense :)
Hey can you link some kind of proof that the devs said this? Genuinely curious
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@Unifall said:
Devs need to close these threads it just starts getting out of hand.
Or they could just warn/ban the ones causing the disruptions, it was fine until some people chimed in.
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@Zokenay said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387397#Comment_2387397
Sure.... its not like it ruined nearly all stablished characters and all new ones are not even close to the quality of the first game.
I’d love to hear how it ruins the established characters, as I’m sure I could dispute the points. Abby is just as great as Ellie/Joel imo.
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Enough of this. This thread is not to debate whether or not their should be a gay person in the game, the mods close threads for that. This is a speculation thread.
Until proven otherwise, I’m claiming Jake as one of us!
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Never trust someone who says ‘homosexual’ lmao
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@Zokenay said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387371#Comment_2387371
I just wish the game's plot wasnt total garbage...
Besides Ellie's and Dina's relationship felt kinda unbelievable to me at times
Best plot of all time you mean? No other game comes close.
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@Gaffy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387374#Comment_2387374
I'm not against homosexuals thank you, thanks for just immediately lashing out and not thinking my comment through. I'm just saying that changing someone's orientation because of "diversity" and "representation" points alone and not just for the sake of having good backstory or character depth is a bad idea.
What you said was homophobic.
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@Elena said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387366#Comment_2387366
Slightly off topic but Ellie and Dina were perfect together
Their scenes were too pure
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@Gaffy said:
I swear if they ruin yet another fine character for a publicity stunt...
Get the ######### out this thread, thanks
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Also, just a side note. Just because a character is not created with the intention for them to be gay, does not mean they aren’t. For example, during development of The Last of Us, the devs didn’t know Ellie was gay until near the end of production, but it fit her character perfectly and they expanded on her sexuality in a dlc after.
Even creators of characters can’t always know for sure who their characters are 100%
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As a partial Jake main, it would be really cool if one of the characters I was naturally drawn to was gay. Especially one with such an amazing tome as Jake, and it would be nice to just have be a natural part of his character.
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Can we stay on the speculation, instead of going to politics?
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@CornMoss said:
I feel everyone is going a lil crazy over the want for a gay character though, I am bi myself. I don't think gay should be a character trait or personality trait
Read the tome, if Jake is gay they’ve certainly not made it a defining trait. That’s why I hope he is, as they would’ve done it in a very powerful way
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@Orion said:
"A straight thing" is an expression that basically means something is going to go according to a plan or roadmap. So you go from A to B to C, all the way to the end, with no deviation whatsoever, no surprises, nothing.
I’m aware of what it means, but considering that it could be a double meaning.
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@Northener1907 said:
Was not he autistic? I don't think he is gay or he likes anyone.
The tome implies he’s dyslexic, not autistic