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@Phasmamain said:
It is endgame tbf so he can’t really do anything else
dude. he faceamped to death the first player from his first hook, he's a basement bubba with agitation and iron grasp. then he got me and facecamed me too and then my stupid teammate who knew from the start that it's a basement bubba gave him another free kill.
@Tsulan said:
So the killer wants to secure a 2 kill after only getting 4 hooks during the entire match (or maybe it was just 2 hooks and he also camped the first one).
dude. it's a basement bubba he didn't got 4 hooks he forced one guy to die from the start and then faceamped me to death.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
This is less of a Bubba issue and more of an Insidious + Basement issue.
Believe me, if any other killer decided to Insidious camp, particularly someone like Billy, Huntress, or Pyramid Head, the results would be the same.
Not really, if u go with 2 people in you have a good chance to save now that bt procs even when insidious works.
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The OP is using NOED cause he has to be carried at the endgame.
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Noed is a bullshit perk and there's a reason why it's a sign or at least being looked at - used by bad killers. the perk is so strong that it's being laughed at killers who use it, since they can't do anything without it. there's a reason this perk is being used in comp, it's just too strong and stupid and the killers in comp take it as an advantage cause they can't beat the god tier swfs in a normal way, usually.
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@Unifall said:
It still doesn't make swf with comms balanced. The thing killers complaining about swf is comms and the free information they get. Solo can be stressful yes but I disagree that even if you're a great looper you can't do anything. If you're a great looper you should be able to waste enough time so your team mates can finish gens. If you're struggling in solo red ranks then sorry but you're not suppose to be that rank.
You see, there's a thing that happens in red ranks.. when you actually go against a killer that knows what he's doing and not a boosted potato.. that he doesn't commit to you for much when he sees you can waste his time.. and then when he changes target, that's where the solo q hell starts.
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@ilovedbd123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2448999#Comment_2448999
When I say at 5 gens, I don't mean literally (usually 2 gens pop first chase) so I'm going to tunnel at 3 gens if literal.
And you do you, but you can't shame a tactic that both is valid and sometimes necessary to win. If you don't care about winning that fine, but don't shame others for trying to win
Now it's easy for you to say after you claim" I actually do that on 3 gens". say that in the original comment. and trust me, every player in this game will shame a killer that tunnels at 5 gens.
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@ilovedbd123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445044#Comment_2445044
When I play nicely, then I get maybe a 2k mostly 1ks playing people like clown, wraith and trapper as well as a few worse killers.
When I'm playing nurse or deathslinger I don't need to tunnel. I can consistently 3/4k.
It's more the fact that i don't like playing the same killers 24/7, so when I want to win on other killers I play harshly at the start.
And btw, to say what I mean about tunneling, it's:
I will go back to hook at unhook if I'm lacking pressure,
I will choose the easier target if both are available, I won't go out of my way to make it easier for them. That's not my job.
But anyhow, what's wrong about tunneling? Also what's your hours, rank and how often you play killer? I doubt your playing against decent survivors with that mindset.
I have 2400 hours and red ranks in both. I still never tunnel at 5 gens. If i feel like im going to lose i just go for the 2 people but i never go for the same guy over and over again.
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@IamFran said:
Play Killer in red ranks without Gen related perks, when you get 3 gens done by survivors after only 2 chases and hooks come and talk, sorry for you if you are a solo survivor, if the people weren't so obsesed with repairing and scaping with only 14.000 points you wouldn't see that perks so frequently.
You're right, you can't play killer in red ranks with no gen defence but it's kind of a cycle, players like to sit and repair gens because many killers they play against are using the same sweaty builds even against poor solo q teams, which led me to open this post.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445106#Comment_2445106
Why? I don't find it weird that I can understand different perspectives and come to the conclusion that what's best isn't necessarily what I like. I don't have to be a killer main or even a competitive player to understand that people trying to win isn't a problem in PvP games. Hell, people trying to win is why I don't usually play PvP games, because I'm more of a casual player.
It's okay for trying to win. that's why I never blame killers who tunnel when they realize they got like 2-3 hooks and there are 2 gens left already. I play killer myself a lot and if I go to tunnel if I see the game is almost finished. tunneling normally at 5 gens would be equal and normal for me if you go against 4 man swf with 4 brand new parts every match. Until that day of this scenario to happen, I can't see how tunneling at 5 gens isn't a toxic way to play this game.
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Why are you complaining about a game that has more than 25 killers yet, it's biggest competitor(or was) had only 1. learn to appreciate some stuff even if they're not perfect.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445096#Comment_2445096
Now let me ask you good sir who acuses me of not reading well
I didn't accuse you of anything, but the shoe does fit. You're literally quoting someone else. Look at my name - hell, look at my profile picture - then scroll up a bit and look at who said that.
You're right. I'm actually pretty dumb cause I didn't notice the names, BUT, even tho I'm dumb. you're still claiming to be a survivor main and saying that it's okay that he tunnels on 5 gens cause he wants to win. I find it weird.
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@FeelsBadMan said:
Most Huntress players gets pretty much carried by a combination of bad ping and her broken hatchet hitboxes. Most of the time I face a Huntress the killer has really bad ping and I am sure the killers know how it does help them. Getting hit behind walls and through stuff like trees and rocks is normal at this point.
There's actually a tech to activate the broken hitbox, as my friend who mains huntress taught me.
If you throw the hatchet really close to the object, the rock/pallet/etc the hitxbox somehow gets bigger and it will hit you even if you're kinda behind it.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445080#Comment_2445080
I didn't say I tunneled at 5 gens, that was your (wildly wrong) assumption that you somehow took as gospel truth without even asking.
You have wrote:
"I tunnel at 5 gens because if I don't, then gens go down even quicker."
Yet a sentence before that you've wrote:
"The few occasions when gens are getting done rather slowly, I tend to be able to sit back for a game. I don't need to worry about pressuring gens perfectly ect,"
Now let me ask you good sir who acuses me of not reading well or going into conclusions, don't you think these 2 statements contradicts?
If you tunnel at 5 gens.. how can you relax and see that they're not gen rushing? you're already taking one guy out of the game while, if you downed them at 5 gens, means you're actually leading cause you got a quick down.
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@feruis said:
Make other killers viable against good swf and you won't have such a problem anymore
Most of your matches are against sweaty swfs? nice you must have a truly bad lack in your queues.
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But if you talk about the lack of variation, btw, so yeah nothing you can do about it players want to win consistently they're not gonna play myers.
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Blight and huntress require some hours of practice and mastery.
There's no reason a killer should play less viable killers in red ranks, while they worked hard to master the strong yet high skill based killers(not looking at you, spirit mains).
If you see that the blight and the huntress aren't that good but they play them to win, it means you can easily beat them if you and your team know what you're doing.
I'm telling that as a survivor main but I also play killer a lot.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445077#Comment_2445077
I'm a survivor main, but I take it resorting to ad hominem means you're trying to distract from your lack of retort?
Congratz. you're the first survivor main that I've seen tunneling on 5 gens when he plays killer.
I really find it hard to believe your words.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445066#Comment_2445066
They play to win, just like the vast majority of players. The survivor is irrelevant.
This is why we need SBMM, to separate people who play casually from people who play to win. The former will naturally have a lower MMR and the latter can "sweat" all they want.
Lol, keep justifying your 5 gen tunneling good sir. you make a regular tunnelers look like nice persons now. good job for that.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445066#Comment_2445066
They play to win, just like the vast majority of players. The survivor is irrelevant.
This is why we need SBMM, to separate people who play casually from people who play to win. The former will naturally have a lower MMR and the latter can "sweat" all they want.
Okay. keep justifying your 5 gen tunneling. regular tunnelers look like nice people compared to you sorry.
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@ThiccBudhha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445063#Comment_2445063
He does not need my protection?
I am just saying that gatekeeping people from roles because of how they play is silly.
If they play to ruin one survivor's expierience every time on 5 gens because they're afraid of losing, while the survivors didn't show they gen rush or they're about to win yet, yeah i'll gatekeep. tunneling shouldn't be complained about if the killer feels he's going to lose but from the start of the game? nah that's just a really disgusting behavior.
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@ThiccBudhha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2445044#Comment_2445044
Playing a role has nothing to do with how good at it you are. That is like saying survivor is not for me because I cannot run a killer for 10 seconds. If I like survivor, I like survivor. That has nothing to do with my skill level or playstyle. I go treasure hunting and I am sure most of my teammates hate that, but guess what? That is fun for me. The thrill of brown box or green flashlight thrills me to no end.
I'm really not gonna have a discussion with someone who protects a guy that tunnels on 5 gens. that's absurd.
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@ilovedbd123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443816#Comment_2443816
It's harder than survivor imo. I play solo survivor (rarely play a 2-3 man swf) and killer both at red ranks.
What I've found is:
A lot more people know general tiles, structures of the map and totem spawns,
They can play efficiently even outside of swf, although it's obvious when they're just a really good team Vs 4 man swf,
Gens do get popped fairly quickly, and that's when I'm playing my mains of nurse and huntress,
The few occasions when gens are getting done rather slowly, I tend to be able to sit back for a game. I don't need to worry about pressuring gens perfectly ect,
I tunnel at 5 gens because if I don't, then gens go down even quicker.
I rarely run the "meta" perks. I run fun perks that work on killers and survivors alike.
For example:
Deathslinger build: forced penance, I'm all ears, thanat, unnerving presence (stops them mending mid chase).
Nurse build: sloppy, thanat, I'm all ears, coup.
Stealth build as survivor:
Lightweight, iron will, calm spirit, self care.
No mither build:
No mither, DS or DH, resilience, iron will.
It was a nice read until I've read "I tunnel at 5 gens". I really don't want to tell you what i think about killers like you, but I'll tell you that playing this role isn't for you if you need to tunnel at 5 gens.
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@Gulsvart said:
2K solo survivor hours and you haven't tried the opposite perspective? Give it a shot, might be a nice change of pace.
I played a lot of killer at least 800 hours of these but now I'm playing survivor for a period of time.
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Do you want us to tell you you're losing your skill without knowing any of your gameplay? what's the point of this pointless post? to recieve hugs?
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2444174#Comment_2444174
Sorry but i don't want to link because i know the people here are going to start an argument on that one.
Nah I'm actually working I won't even comment, just wanna read out of curiosity.
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@[Deleted User] said:
There is basically another thread that was posted today that is basically the killer POV version of this.
It's clear this game doesn't feel fair to both sides
can u link please?
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@ArchAbhor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443884#Comment_2443884
The balance of the game imo is the most important part. Once the balance is fixed, if ever, all other issues could be addressed. So I think people have a right to complain about it. Just as you have a right to complain about them complaining XD.
I wish the meta drastically changed so that my builds dont have to be focused on gen defense. The most fun I have in DBD is when i bring non meta fun builds, but those builds are almost going to guarantee a loss at high level play. When I am beaten I want it to feel like I was beaten, and then I'm fine with it. When the games unbalanced nature beats me I have issues with that.
The worst games are ones where i smoke every survivor in chase but the still manage to do all the gens and/or escape. Survivor gameplay is so relaxed and inconsequential when compared to killer gameplay. They can make many many mistakes and all get out. The killer makes one and it could cost them the game. Its not a good thing for the health of this game.
Agreed. I read a lot of comments in this forum but finally I see an honest one without bias.
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@KblokoBR said:
How can you identify SKILL in dbd?? In my point of view, this is not only about the 4k or 4 escapes, being too much subjective. Other point is that, this game is impossible to play just to "chill" because if ur not sweating, the survs that are obliterate you. So what is the point of making this game even more competitive since there are MASSIVE issues of balance in either sides? A killer can do the quickest chases possible, if is haddonfield + SWF he is uneskilled because he dont get even 1k? I just don't understand bhvr actions...
It's there more to help solo q.
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People are still playing PTB in 2021?
I couldn't care less with all the boring killers they bring for an year.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443902#Comment_2443902
No not really, I think most people complain about SWFs for valid reasons, regardless of how often they are actually playing against them.
Adding a party indicator in the post game lobby would be good so Killer's could be educated on when they've lost to a SWF and when it was solo or partially solo.
Well let's agree to disagree.
It's valid to be annoyed by SWFS, but crying about them while enjoying the more common part of the spectrum, the solo q disaster is kinda dumb for me.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443858#Comment_2443858
No because a poll isn't going to be that much better data than you simply saying "my friends said this". A poll can still be biased and isn't going to give us a real indication of the whole community (a very small portion of the player base goes on these forums).
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443866#Comment_2443866
You are making out as if the games are either a sweaty SWF with 20K combined hours, or Solo Q potatoes who fail skill checks and dive hooks. The reality is something in the middle. You can get solo Q games where the players are actually good, and you can also get SWFs which are actually just casual and playing the game for fun.
Also it doesn't have to a be a strong 4-man, a well co-ordinated 3 man, or even 2 players together can create problems even for a good Killer, especially if they are not running strong slowdown builds.
Still, I believe that we can agree that most of the killers that cry about SWFS, are doing that after they played against solo q teams usually which are in the bottom of the food chain. If you as a killer get to play against the bottom of the food chain mostly, why would you keep crying after you face a strong team who can challange you? Even I beat 4 mans sometimes if i play smart and barely do mistakes.
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@ArchAbhor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/274654/red-ranks-hypocrisy
there is a direct connection between solo q and killer but this isnt it. The devs refuse to balance for swfs so killers feel like they need to play like this because they do not know if they are facing a sweaty team or not. So the ones who suffer most are solo q but its because of swfs ultimately. Play both at high level and you will see what i mean.
The real fix for this game is to nerf down swfs and then after you've brought swfs down to solo q or solo q up to swfs level. Address scummy killer tactics, but as it stands those ways of playing are a killers defense to an unbalanced game
Fair enough, even I when i suspect a swf when i see 4 pc gamers, bring my strong build BUT, if i lose to them i don't come here to cry in the forums about them cause before that match I was in a 5-8 win streak with normal matches and my normal builds.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443849#Comment_2443849
Can I see the statistics you have access to where you saw that you are 10x more likely to get a solo Q team than a SWF team? Since you must have access to some data directly from the game developers.
Also, if strong 4 mans were so common, otzdarva and people as him would never get 50 win streaks in a row that easily, u can see in his streams how rarely he faces a strong 4 man and usually stomp pubs.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443849#Comment_2443849
Can I see the statistics you have access to where you saw that you are 10x more likely to get a solo Q team than a SWF team? Since you must have access to some data directly from the game developers.
No. but I know many people who play the game and most of them are killer mains and all of them told me that they don't encounter strong swfs a lot of times, usually duo but never a full 4 man, and even if it's a 4 man there are always 1-2 weak links that u can abuse.
Also I'm saying that as a guy who plays killer a lot in red ranks and i can agree with them. maybe we should do a poll in this forum about this.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443826#Comment_2443826
SWF is an issue, if it wasn't every Killer would win any "pro" game of DBD by tunneling, but they don't.
Oh yeah, cause every SWF is made of 4 god survivors who play sweaty and can loop the killers in a pro level, I forgot.
My agenda is this:
Yes, a strong SWF is hard for every killer. but a solo q team is usually easy for every competent killer, they are matched 10x more against solo q teams that they beat than sweaty good loopers team yet still cry a lot.
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@Zozzy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2443823#Comment_2443823
It isn't that they lost. its that nothing you can do matters depending on the swf and killer you are playing.
They make so many perks and even powers in this game useless
Really? go tunnel a guy off hook against a swf(which killers do in solo q a lot anyway) and see how easy it is to beat them. they go in frenzy and become altrustic and u can make at least half of them lose only by that start alone.
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@Clowning said:
Aren't you the same dude that made several threads complaining he keeps dying to Nemesis' Zombies?
Yeah cause it happened to me a few games in a row and it was frustraing. tbh now It doesn't happen quite much and I don't consider him a strong killer, i just play against him sorta like I would against huntress.
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@Alphasoul05 said:
I don't think you understand what hypocrisy means, friend, because that is not it.
SWF can be just as much of an issue as this game and the struggles of playing solo queue, I don't really understand why you're making this into an imaginary argument with made up hypocrites.
"Bro, you can't complain about SWF, solo queue is way worse" Solid logic. Here's some for you: I can't believe you're comparing SWF to solo queue difficulty, do you have any idea how difficult this game is as someone who just bought the game, and also has no arms? Absolutely ridiculous how hypocritical people are. I promise you if you play without arms or eyes you'll realize you're just an entitled killer main.
SWF Is not an issue once you bring to the table the tunneling/massive gen regression arsenal. it is an hypocrisy because all the killers that are crying here aren't crying when they destroy a solo team with their bamboozle bubba or tinkerer slide blight.
I prefer playing with friends not because of the escaping part but because I know that the 2 minutes I've ran the killer wouldn't go to waste because some a noob3 wannabe nea is chasing me for a flashy save she won't get cause the killer isn't the dumb, or survivors that just leave everything they do just to crowd near the hook to get the unhook.
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@Zozzy said:
People have been asking for BHVR to buff solo players and then buff killers if needed.
Things like Kindred base and a ping system or quick chat wheel would buff solo players without really giving anything new to swf on coms.
It's nice but I'm talking about the current state.
All I see here are posts crying about swfs, gen speeds and "tunneling is a start".
They all come from salty killers that once they lose to a coordinated team, they are angry cause they weren't 3-4gen stompable like most solo 1 pub games they get with their sweaty gen regression builds.
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@legacycolt said:
Yes this is true. Also playing killer is really not as hard as people are making it out to be.
Exactly, playing killer these days with all the buffs they got is easier than it ever was.
Killers here are crying cause they can't stomp Swfs the same way the stomp all the solo pubs with a cup of coffe in one hand.
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sucks as survivor.. but as a killer im happy i only faced teams with 4k+hrs each it was a gen speed disaster.
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Which rank are u that you put PH so low? you clearly don't face good pyramid heads.
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this forum is so killer sided that they don't want to admit it's so easy to play killer today.
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Yeah it is. they cry about surivors and swfs. justifying tunneling on 4-5 gens while not recognizing that the game is the most ez for killer than it ever was.
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Most killers tunnel and camp today, to save their shattered ego.
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get good then. LOL
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@Alice_pbg said:
spirit is free with game time.
it's not pay 2 win.
also nurse is the best killer and literally on the base game
For nurse you need skill and put many of hours while losing many games. with spirit you can be a bot with 5 fingers broken, as long as you have stidor and headphones u can compete against survivors that are way better than you.
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@Mooks said:
You can get her free with shards…
Grind 2 win then.
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And i am sick with use stridor with spirit to outplay.
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@BenihimeWrath said:
Sorry, I literally have to kill someone as fast as possible. Its the only real way to slow the game down to a manageable level. Its not enjoyable for me to get 1 hook and then get tbagged at the exit gate because I allowed survivors to snowball. I'm the one I want to snowball, and thats how I do it, by getting rid of a survivor. It sounds, and appears when I play survivor, that a lot of other killers are making that decision as well, if they have any experience at the game. Toxicity goes in a cycle, and both sides are responsible for the other sides fun because the roles are symbiotic. But the unfortunate reality is that people are not against you, they are for themselves, so if its the choice between them having fun, or you having fun, they are going to pick themselves.
I really think that you're one of those shameful killers, the lowest of the low players who tunnel on 4-5 gens. Your message really does strike me as you're one of them and if you are, you're disgusting tbh.