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@anarchy753 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769979#Comment_769979
Yeah, just a completely irrelevant one because you still have to hit them again without touching your power button, wounds or not.
can I just say
*cries in Legion main*
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@Frosty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769376#Comment_769376
Alright. I'll start with that is just a made up deffinition to describe a situation in which survivors have felt is "unfair" and "not fun"
Some killers may also say that a highly effective strategy is "is going after the survivor you just hooked in an attempt to kill them much quicker." Fortunately a fair amount of killers realize when a team mate is being a d-bag and will punish them for blatantly unsafe rescues.
The devs have pandered to the masses because they realize it was best for the overall health of the game to limit these situations that left many disgruntled. This I'm fine with as I am rather fond of powerful but situational perks.
If you can't think of or admit to how decisive strikes 60 seconds of unregulated ability to stun a killer that has downed and picked you up, then I'm not going to be able to convince you. There are to many to even get into on this thread.
Tl;Dr: killers main goal is to get sacrifices. Suggesting that you deserve a minute of unregulated immunity that only requires a skill check after being unhooked because it's not fun to die, is not fair.
ALSO ALL OF THIS!
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769412#Comment_769412
Survivor 1 gets unhooked. I hook survivors 2 and 3. Find survivor 1, chase them, down them, and get hit with DS. But gee, my bad, I should've had a stop watch to keep track of how long it'd been since they got unhooked.
And for anyone who says "You must've been doing good that match, it couldn't have made a difference," no, wrong. While I was stunned by DS survivors 2 and 3 were unhooked, so all four survivors are on their feet and the pressure I'd suddenly managed to put on them was completely lost.
Sorry, I hate that argument. Killers do not have to tunnel to get punished by DS, and it is not as simple as "just don't go after the survivor."
This. ALL of this.
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@anarchy753 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769967#Comment_769967
I'm a Plague main atm, I bathe in the salty tears of survivors who wasted their instas.
Well I can KINDA do that as Legion. DW is a health state...
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@FairP1ayer said:
Wow I’m the only one that thinks Sheltered Woods needs a rework? All the other maps up here only need minor tweaks to them.
have you played Killer on most maps?
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but from the poll this one.
It's called "Had No Fun" for a reason.
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[ ] Other
ALL OF THEM (that haven't been. Seriously there is like.... 3 maps that are KINDA Killer sided)
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@anarchy753 said:
"Instaheals are so rare."
Are you kidding, even before the patch was announced there was at least one every other match.
it's SO BAD RIGHT NOW
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@Usui said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769820#Comment_769820
You're hilarious, she's been absolutely broken since release, go check how long ago that was.
And you've been absolutely Biased every time i've seen you, including expressly declining to see information that proved you wrong.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
None. They are all killer-sided.
Excuse me a moment:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
good joke.
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769883#Comment_769883
Ranking is a nasty #########. I'm constantly going up and down and trying to find a place where I'm happy, but I haven't figured it out yet. It's too bad there's not more than one mode for this game, like a "I'm taking this hella serious" mode and a "ooh, what's this button do?" mode.
Hey, remember: Killers play alone. They win alone. They lose alone. They take crap from survivors alone. And it feels even worse 'cause you're outnumbered 4 to 1. No matter how not seriously you try to take the game, it will get to you; it's inevitable. I don't really have advice or anything for it, but I can tell you that I know how you feel, man.
It's only natural for killers and solo survivors both to come to these forums and look for others who share their pain. I don't think you're whining; I think the game is testing your breaking point and you're reaching out. I haven't even been playing the game that long and I've had to take breaks from it; I try not to take it seriously but at some point getting kicked in the teeth over and over again gets to be too much for anyone.
Thank you. You get it. It just drives me up the wall when i'm like "Okay, gonna just play Clown." or "alright, gonna test this out to see how it works." and I come out the other end of it like a cartoon character after an explosion with a big flashing "you suck" neon blazed into my eyes from the screen.
I'd love a mode that wasn't ranked or something like that. Just a Screw around mode or something so I could test builds or play someone that's not that great (or that i'm familiar with cause I get Legion to work somehow).
And yes, I'm not whining as you could tell. I was just sick to death of everything seeming to be against me in DBD today and wondered if others got those feels. Like i've been Red ranks, i've kicked some tail but I KEPT getting the games were two gens would pop either before or as I downed the first guy. It's hard to "Apply pressure" to the map when you arn't Billy, Spirit, or Nurse. It's hard to "Lock down the map" when you have only seen and chased ONE PERSON.
This is the ONLY game i've been told to go kill myself cause of a character I played or cause I won, or even cause i've lost. I do not understand toxic people in the least. When I win, I say gg and tell them the good moves they did and such like that. When I lose, if they arnt being toxic, I talk to them about things like "Oh you were on the other side of that wall when i checked the locker?" "Yea! That scared me so bad!"
It gets rough being on the rough end of either of this game. Not just Killer (though honestly it seems alot easier for the Killer to get the shaft, so to speak) but survivors have it rough too when they get that Killer that's prolly had enough or is just that kinda person and just does the most he can to suck the fun outta the game.
That's what bothers me the most. This is a game. It shouldn't get to the point I wonder why i'm bothering to play a game for fun.
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@KillermainBTWm8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769568#Comment_769568
Why are we still here just to suffer?
Now i hear the whole speech!
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@TragicSolitude said:
Whenever I'm in the mood to fool around as survivor, I get serious killers who immediately tunnel me out of the game.
Whenever I'm in the mood to fool around as killer, I get survivors who avoid me all match and/or rush through the gens.
It can be hard to play this game in a way that's not super serious.
I think it's the ranking honestly. Which they say they use for MM but you could have fooled me with how it works.
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@ItsYourBoyGuzma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769683#Comment_769683
ill tell you what i do, I KEEP PLAYING AND LOCK DOWN AREAS OF THE MAP.
just because the game is not going in my favor doesnt mean im gonna cry and whinge about it on the forums.
And!
If you cant win as the low tier killers just switch to Spirit, nurse, billy , or huntress.
Nice try trying to make it seem like you've seen it all bud, Been playing killer since launch 2016.
You know nothing of pain
Nice assuming. I've been playing Killer just as long. Quit after 2017 and came back for Legion. How about you shut ya trap if all you have to say is that i'm whining. I'm not. I also hate playing as all of the higher tier Killers. I play Legion in Red Ranks, friend. Don't get on me like I don't know what I'm doing.
@Johnny_XMan said:
You blame people for taking the game "so serious" but you log into the forums to create a thread about it?
Sounds to me you should follow your own advice.
Both of you. Guzma and johnny both. I came here cause I was wondering if anyone ELSE had the same feels, or if I WAS taking it too seriously.
If you both just wanna assume i'm whining and have no real input or whatever, that's fine. But you both need to take a step back from your snarky attitude and try and look at things outside of your own narrow view point.
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@Rin_is_my_waifu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/96766/those-feels
Let me guess, cries in legion main?
no
*cries in DBD player*
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@Yamaoka said:
What killer+build did you try? Just curious
It just seems like EVERY time I do ANYTHING that is not my A game, whatever I try is worthless or gets BM'ed into the ground.
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@ItsYourBoyGuzma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/96766/those-feels
why are you getting upset that the survivors are doing their objective?
it's not like they know you're memeing or screwing around in the first place.
You're a killer, so kill..
Also, i'm not MAD. I'm just over come with "Why am I bothering to play this game?"
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It's not fun when you are playing a game and you get a feeling of "Why even bother?" I honestly could get no traction today no matter what i did. Taking a break from the game now.
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@ItsYourBoyGuzma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/96766/those-feels
why are you getting upset that the survivors are doing their objective?
it's not like they know you're memeing or screwing around in the first place.
You're a killer, so kill..
This is very very easy to say, and very very very hard to do at times.
I want you to tell me how you feel playing Killer and you down the first guy you saw and 2-3 gens go off. Go ahead, I'll wait.
You can drop your snark too.
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It's this, or 2-3 gens going off after one bloody chase.
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@Yamaoka said:
What killer+build did you try? Just curious
a few. Legion with mad grit, relentless, STBFL, and PWYF
Legion with FC, Tinkerer, DD, and Corrupt
"Immersed Ghostface"
just things that pop into my head.
The unfamiliar Killer was basically any time i try and play Spirit or Demo.
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I'm not whining. Yall should know me enough by now to know how I am and all. But it's really demoralizing for EVERY GAME to either be a stomp or an uphill battle. I thought I gave rank reset enough time, so i decided to play around a bit. Screw me for wanting to have fun I guess. I'll just go back to stabby mode so I have fun either way. (unless it's the 2-3 gens popping at once after I manage to hook one guy after a loop or two in the corn etc. Thats NEVER fun)
It's bad when the survivors are like "Oh that was really fun, sorry we made it end that fast."
And before you people say "Git Gud" or anything, this is me trying to map pressure and every thing even if i'm using silly builds. I'm still trying.
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@TragicSolitude said:
I've died plenty of times from losing the rhythm. Or the joint in my thumb just didn't feel great that day.
A terrible mechanic. Just have players hold a button down like they do on gens.
then you'd get more "Yay... hold m1..."
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@C3Tooth said:
Wanna counter face camp? Ever heard of Kindred?
Wanna counter tunneling? Ever heard of DS?
Wanna counter slugging? Ever heard of Unbreakable?
Wanna counter Spirit? Ever heard of IronWill?
Wanna counter Doctor? Ever heard of Camp Spirit?
Wanna counter Nurse? Ever heard of Dead hard?
I agree topics about wanting Noed nerf is nonsense, because Survivor can actually prevent it in game without requiring a Perk. Using LightBorn if you see more than 1 Flashlight. Or BBQ because Survivor can notice Killer behavior after a hook or two.
A perk counter a Killer power is pure luck. You can not tell Survivor use a perk to counter a play style. Killer main speak like Survivor has 50 perk slots, or Survivor has cheat mode that able to see what Killer they're going to face, and able to read mind what play style going.
Woah dude. Calm down.
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@BunnyTheHutt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/767112#Comment_767112
To clarify, you wanted a 16 meter terror radius, 24 meters is what Hag has and what Old Legion had. 16 meters is too low because if paired with monitor it would give you a Terror Radius like EW1 Myers, 8 meters, but you aren't slowed or have poor Lunge Range, which is why it would be OP.
The what now? I crossed that one off a while back. There is ALOT of ideas there
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also Rank reset
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769357#Comment_769357
Excellent bait for dead hard
and just for general panic
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Lunging Illusions!
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Pack it up people. No need to give this thread attention if they wont listen.
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@yandere777 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769274#Comment_769274
I was adding onto what you were replying to, my bad if it confused you lmao
Ohhh okay XD
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@Davidjzuniga said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769296#Comment_769296
Lol your argument is garbage. "Bring unbreakable". So i can get up and then you instantly down me because your standing over me waiting for my DS timer to run down? Unbreakable is extremely situational. You want me to use an entire perk slot for that?
I love how not only do you insult me, but you pick one thing out (a perk that is widely regarded as useful) to trash. I am starting to think you will not change your narrow view...
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@Davidjzuniga said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769301#Comment_769301
He doesnt leave. He stares at me and waits the timer out
Then he's giving up the other gens. Well done, your sacrifice will be remembered.
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@humanbeing1704 said:
most of the killers on these forums crying gen rush probably tunneled someone for 5 gens
@GennyFromTheBlock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769207#Comment_769207
It's actually was proven a few times when Killer players come on here with screenshots lol and then someone counters with video footage that they tunneled a successful looper. I can't find the post cuz I wasn't a member, but a killer was being super fresh with video footage and it backfired.
Both of you are super biased.
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@GrootDude said:
You aren’t being tunneled if the killer leaves you to go find others which is the whole point of slugging.
This too is a good point
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@Davidjzuniga said:
What if when the killer is next to you and your in dying state the timer didnt go down? Its so annoying and unfun to be tunneled and then DS be renedered usless cuz the killer is to afraid of a one time use DS and slugs for 1 minute. It literally wastes an entire perk slot.
Well this is because 60 seconds is very long and being stunned and letting someone start a chase again is TERRIBLE for a Killer. Slugging is literally the only way around it other than keeping count for every survivor in your head cause you don't know who has what.
Alot of people seem to think DS is immunity to the Killer for 60 seconds. If you get unhooked and get in my face, you are laying down for a bit. Bring Unbreakable.
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@arslaN said:
Complaining about small game. Amazing.
People just love to go complain here after losing one match
cough on both sides cough
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@ASurvkillivorer said:
Real fun, real fair. I don't play the trapper much but I usually had good luck with him because of how he can push you into his traps. Fired him up for the daily. Didn't get a single trap. A PERK that turns off an entire power. Wow.
Never did the "his power goes away against SWF" argument ring more true than in this match. Not a single person walked into a trap. Every trap I placed was down in seconds which they could've managed without small game on this TRASH Blood Lodge map. More like the See where all trap killers are placing their traps Lodge. ######### ruin spawn? You got it....I don't think a good spawn exists on THIS map anyways.
And they're afraid to let Trapper start with all of his traps? That would be square ONE for making him not so bullyable.
So balanced, so fair. Someone even healed off of the hook in seconds to where I instantly thought insta heal? There was no insta heal and there was only one Meg so wow a SWF showing me new things that are even more BS. No we will make it or any healing buffs and she was somehow healed in actually 4-5 seconds. Real SWF can converge on the hook in your face and force you into a defensive position and STILL pull it off. Taking ONE hit on a body block gives enough space to cross more than a quarter of the map.
I know that was a bad time man, but it wasn't JUST Small Game that did it. I hope you had better games after this and have fun in the Fog. Hopefully that kinda team is rare enough you can get that lovely SNAP soon.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
Are we at the point where we complain about Survivor Perks like Small Game?
Are we at the point where we belittle everything someone says?
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@yandere777 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769125#Comment_769125
Not to mention the killer gets 2500 points just for a 4k.
Um, yes hello?
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I do really think it's funny how everyone says Spirit is so easy and I play as her and don't know a single thing I'm doing. Literally everything takes some kinda of learning period.
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Also, why is this in Feedback?
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Mad Grit, Unrelenting, STBFL, and.... Fire Up
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I would also like to point out that @Kabu has given really good ideas for Legion reworks. Kabu isnt against Legion at all.
@bubbascal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/766926#Comment_766926
"Certain playstyles that Legion had did not have much counterplay."
Oh, you mean "tunneled via Frenzy"? Buddy, that was a trash strategy. Sure, it MIGHT get the Survivor downed, but it took so damn long that gens would get popped. Legions were discouraged from doing it as a result.
And if you're going to do the even more stupid "YoU CaN'T EsCaPe FrEnZy" whenever someone got hit and you were revealed via Killer Instinct... because y'all didn't know how to ######### RUN IN STRAIGHT LINES... or run ANY exhaustion perk.
Legion's power was absolutely useless if Survivors scrammed. It was easy to outrun.
Deep Wound tunneling, trapping someone in Deep Wound and then downing them with a hit when they couldn't move, and moonwalking are some of the only valid complaints. Plus the blade exploit. The way the devs handled this was absolutely awful and made Frenzy a non-existent threat.
"As for Spirit, survivors do not like and have a difficult time versing Spirit as there is very little feedback with her power."
Because you're stupid and don't actually watch the damn Spirit you're going up against whenever she does chases.
Bad to average Spirits tend to move in predictable ways, and not being able to see Spirit when she's vaulting is the STUPIDEST complaint imaginable. If Spirit does not appear after a few seconds, she is most likely phasing. Simple.
"There are counters and I've written a small novella of said counters but that doesn't mean they are reliable."
And they shouldn't. Because then elite Survivors will always go for that safe tactic and be able to loop Killers for multiple gens.
I have a proposition: I'll let Survivors nerf Spirit and Nurse... in exchange for gen times, looping and genrushing being nerfed. Sound fair?
If you don't agree with this, then Spirit stays. Period. You don't get to ruin the game for one side while keeping your side fun.
There is never a reason to make things personal. I think you need some time to breathe.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769203#Comment_769203
You’re welcome, I was prepared for the backlash of a spirit thread. I plan on making more advice threads for various topics in the future. :)
I support this!
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@Xboned said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769226#Comment_769226
That would help a great deal, yes, as one thing that makes most lower tier killers lower tier is the lack of ability to exert enough map pressure to stop the gen rush.
I can only FF so much! .... and get looped while doing it.... *cries more in Legion main* a 115% Killer with 3 stacks of PWYF is FASTER THAN FF!!!
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Ohhhh... I see what you mean now. Map reworks would help too.
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@Xboned said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769205#Comment_769205
There appears to be some confusion here.
My comment wasn't about MY perception of what killers can deal with SWF, it's about the COMMUNITY'S perception of what killers can deal with SWF. My citing other people's arguments as evidence of unhealthy bias is not the same as me claiming that bias for myself.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769192#Comment_769192
Sigh. Swing, miss, Frenzy canceled.
I do favor buffing certain killers, yes. I said so earlier. I also pointed out why that alone is not an adequate solution.
*Legion stun noise* I'll go look. Sorry I'm still waking up!
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Woo, @GrootDude , I'm sorry it turned into such a mess. But I want to thank you for at least trying to teach people. I agree with your thoughts on Spirit as well, shaking up the gameplay is FUN. I don't get WHY people think its so OP or anything when all it is, is DIFFERENT! Be happy the game isnt stale people.
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@Xboned said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769182#Comment_769182
You're the one who pointed out the disparity between Nurse/Spirit and everyone else.
I'm simply saying that the inevitable uproar over them getting their wings clipped would probably be lessened if fewer people felt it was essential to play them.
In other words!
Buff Lower Tier Killers!