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And another thread as if this wasnt discussed 100 times during last couple of days.
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Killer bias confirmed.
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@JeanCharpentier said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2701324#Comment_2701324
They come to the conclusion that the game is broken but obviously you hear whatever you want to hear. :)
Whatever, survivors queue times are 10 minutes long and most killers are total babies, i escape 80% of the time and there are 3 escapes+ like 90% of the time in the trial i play as a survivor.
But hey, everything is okay right ? MMR is perfect, boon totems are not even strong enough to be discussed about and the game is greatly balanced.
You might be a really bad player to think that the game is in a good state cause if everything looks fine for you, it means you are not good enough to see how broken it is.
Maybe you think there are not too many pallets/loops on most maps right ? You should level up then, really as there are enough pallets/windows/loop to juke the killer for 15 minutes while you just need 7 minutes to do all gens.
1st video = the game is not fun anymore
2nd video = items are way too strong
3rd video = boons are too strong in their current state and need changes
4th video = healing with boons is way too strong and "holy ######### the perk is broken"
5th video = boons are broken, healing items are even even more broken, global healing speed is broken
You should look the videos again cause at that point you are just a troll.
So its a broken game if you play against killers that are just bad players? Makes total sense. and maybe dont just look at the title, but hear what the people say. I know thats much asked of you.
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I dont understand why people rant about games that they just started playing. Like: learn to play the game, and search for information if youre dazzled. Like everything you complain about is totaly trivial.
- The possibility that a survivors fully heals himself and runs away while a killer is breaking a pallet is 0. Its just impossible. You can heal very quickly by stacking every perk possible, but not like you told.
- Boons aren quite good, but not OP. Also you can hear them quite far away and pinpoint their location quite easily, as long as youre not a total newbie, like you are. And it doesnt take much time to snuff them out. Also it takes 16s to bless them again. Which is much time theyre not doing a gen.
- Just think about it how easy you could down survivors if you wpuldnt have that little cooldown on hits. Try and take alook at killers using save the best for last. Thats would be unfair as basekit. Also if they stay around you after a hit that just in your favor, cause they lose valuable distance.
- Flashlights. The most easy thing to dodge as killer, if youre not a total newbie like you.It just shows youre a newbie if you use lightborn. Cause its a newbie perk. Flashlights even works in your favor, cause they dont do a gen and you can just bait them and smack them for free.
- If you think trapper is useless, thats again a sign of being a newbie. Even though hes lower tier, hes really good if you can strategize quite well. Also at yopur potential playtime you wont get much competent teams due to your low MMR.
- If you cant take it to lose as killer while you have no issues as survivor despite any circumstances its a total YOU issue. As killer its completely your fault if you lose (even though we first would have to talk of what is a win as killer for you). Cause you know: Killer is the powerrole, not survivors. Not at all.
summary: Learn the basics before ranting instantly after starting a game.
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To be honest show me any other dev team with a game thispouplar that takes better care of their playerbase. They all do not much, cause they dont need to.
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@JeanCharpentier said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2700615#Comment_2700615
They all complain about SBMM, boons and strong loops + map designs, all of them.
From Scott jund to Otz to Truetalent and Lilith. You clearly do not look any streamers a they often talk about those issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5KjhbxVZrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7RkW1dw5BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5arehrQ8No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS-VhpJJMgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVqTEWnG0zg
Everything is broken in this game, the balance is completely off on most features, no way to enjoy anything as it is always unfair...
Maybe you should look up those videos again, cause thats not complaining, thats discussing (some of them are even not relevant cause of ptb "issues") and many times they just come to the conclusion thats its not an issue to complain about.
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@chargernick85 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2698952#Comment_2698952
Am the only one confused by this?
Nurse - Has anti everything (including anti-loop)
Spirit - Has anti loop (Phasing)
Blight - Lethal rush can be used as anti loop.
What makes these the top 3 is they are anti-loop, have mobility, AND counter Hold W.
anti loop is about restricting movement. none of those does this.
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@JeanCharpentier said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2698928#Comment_2698928
Bad faith here, clearly.
- hexes are not the same as there are 4 survivors with 3rd person POV to deal with them
- Only a few maps work also in favour of killers and still the unbalance is nowhere near Haddonfield for exemple
- once again, 4 survviors with 3rd POV to deal with it
- Ok for this one
- SWF is a problem but at high MMR, SWF or not, you still face 4 unbeatable survivors
- Ye the "fake news" disease... Shack + most of the time you have a window/pallet jungle gym or shack combined with a safe loop
- killer sided maps are there too but the balance is not off as it is on Haddonfield, The game, the new map etc...
- All safe loops are too storng if you play a basic M1 killer...
- agree on this one, HV is normal
- DH on 4 survivors is game changer, you clearly do not play killer at all
- nope there aren't any broken killer perks while survivors have ton of OP perks and they can all equip them
- agree on this one
- then learn to ignore camping and tunneling as you will get this in every trial pretty soon
You are clearly delusionnal and obviously you do not play killer at a high level. Every killer players are complaining about the state of the game.
You don't want to admit something is wrong ? Enjoy you 15min queues to end up facing a baby or a camper/tunneler, great game.
delusionnal. Sure. I dont know what high MMR killers you know that complain about soo much non-issues, but all those streamers in high mmr i know dont complain about such things at all. be honest youre cpmpletely biased here.
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Luckily less than before, but still some unfun dudes out there. But i guess thats the killer cycle. If a character gets their OP-######### nerfed, they just stop playing, cause they cant bully anymore.
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Yeah, Yeah dodge every lobby til you may find a lobby you can be 110% sure about to play against four solo survivors. Have fun never playing again as killer. And dont come back crying if you find a lobby and still lose xD
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So if top killers have to be anti loop, i guess Nurse, Spirit and Blight srent top 3 at all? kind of scary.
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visual-wise its one of the best maps ever. gameplay-wise its basically one of the worst, and i doubt it will ever get changed due to license issues.
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Its kinda hilarious how much killer players complain about basicly everything, AND neglecting everything that works in their favour. the game isnt supposed to be a stomping simulator for killers. if you get a 2k that more than fair enough for everyone. and thats more than easy to handle as killer, even without playing like a jerk. but lets get through ypur complains:
- hexes are the same side for killers.
- maps work also in favour of killers.
- works also for survivors.
- its basically impossible to not spawn near a gen, otherwise maps would be far bigger, but than youre complaining again i guess.
- rare edge cases, but in general not that much of an issue at all.
- fake news
- killer sided maps are there too, but that doesnt count, right? lol
- what loops? TL Wall too strong now? lol despite some edge cases with loop chains, not an issue at all.
- so fair hits are an issue now? HILARIOUS
- if you cant play vs DH thats still your fault
- like multiple easy game perks on killer?
- yeah sorry for not hooktrading with you for easy downs after still hanging around the hook lol
- who cares? doesnt hurt anyones gameplay at all. learn to ignore it.
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Validation is the best system for fair gameplay. Just because it looks awful as killer it doesnt corrupt the system itself.
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@oh_salutations said:
The artist's rare skins were instead of being used in the shop was left out from us and is only gained through twitch prime. I'm not hating on Prime gaming but it shouldn't be removing skins that should already be there in the first place. If it was only the artist I wouldn't care but along as people don't talk about it... how many other future characters won't have rare skins, or will have their base cosmetics that were planned for the store be shifted to twitch benefits. It's limiting and makes outfits that were most likely going to be purchasable with shards and make it so you need to buy a subscription service that not everyone is interested in. It would be better if twitch had a new skin that she had, or better yet just give Rare outfits for free and have the rares still be in the store for purchase because BHVR says they HATE exclusives so much 🙄.
Who said that those skins were supposed to be in the shop?
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689915#Comment_2689915
Hey, Mettle of Man proved that just ONE hit is a massive gamechanger. :P
Thats soo far off in compariosn with this. But I guess you cant see this.
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@ThatOneDemoPlayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689862#Comment_2689862
Because they're not balanced when combined with Perks like Dead Hard. They're not even balanced on their own
Sure those 6 hits are totally gamechanging. Hilarious.
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Can we pls stop this obnoxious complaining about some stupid snowmen?
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689555#Comment_2689555
It's clearly been a while since you played against twins or you would have remembered that Viktor clings to you if you're healthy.
Unless you are refering to getting with with BT but then it still doesn't make sense cause you would still get the speed boost out of it.
Serious? You were the one talking about BT and validation, so why would you attack me like this? What does a sprintboost against an instant long range jump attack?
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Learn to play killer properly.
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@Sonzaishinai said:
This isn't really a snowman issue but a huge twins issue in general.
Viktor going into his 5 (!) second stun after hitting BT or getting validated by dead hard is also bs.
The trigger of his stun should br the downing of a survivor not the hitting part
Good idea to let them double jump a survivor for an easy down. Sigh. Twins are just the most "unbalanced" killer ever, just being a camper/tunnler/slugger. I am glad for every day without seeing any Twin player.
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Who cares? Noone plays Twins.
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@Ruma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689340#Comment_2689340
If its not gamechanging, why dont you just stand still for 2 seconds everytime the killer starts chasing you?
Please record your matches then.
Its not a big deal, right?
Thats quite the logic. Not.
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Yeah those 2s that you get hit later are so gamechanging. Its hilarious on what killer players complain about every time.
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Maybe get better at those killers gameplay? But i guess thats impossible.
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@THEBLASTOUT said:
Why can survivors repair 4 gens at a time if I can't chase 4 at the same time, even though killer are a little bit faster survivors have way less things to do in a match than killers.
Killers waste more BP than survivors because they can find a flashlight or medkit in a chest, but killers can't get anything in match, you can be looking for a specific add-on but you can't find it so you waste more BP than a survivor.
Survivors doesn't need perks to play but killers does.
The game is so unbalanced that I can play with no mither as my only perk and win
- killer have to chase and hook. Survivors have to do gens, unhooks, exit gates, add. chase and healing. But sure, survivors have less to do.
- What you find as survivor has basically no impact on the match at all. Has nothing to do with wasting BPs. Btw. killer get much more BPs and have much less perks to grind.
- Thats totally wrong. Survivors basically have to run certain perks in order to even play the match thanks due to tunneling, camping and slugging.
- Sure. Pls record this, cause if this would be true, no survivor would have to use perks.
Summary: Just another whiny thread from someone who obviously cant play killer properly.
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Exponential is just a bad perk. But to be honest, killers complain about every perks survivors get. Just look into the forums before a chapter release and see threads like "Perk X is OP" "Perk Y is the new meta" "Perk Z is broken". Its always the same, and after release nothing of this is true anymore, but they still complain. Never got a broken survivor perk in ages, not even a meta perk.
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Never, NEVER assume skill by playtime. Its just unjustified.
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@Wraithy234 said:
"Acceptable" in that you are always considered bad and a no-skill when you can't loop. As a survivor I can do basically anything besides looping, and I do get called bad all the time because "other things require no skill".
Are there really no other skills involved in this game?
So tell me what else requires skill? Iam realy curious on your answer.
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Okay, then lets give pentimento a activate to use ability with 16s ignite timer, and 2s disable time. Youre serious?
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Its kinda sad too see that there are still poeple tyring to defend tunneling. And those are the same that complain about genrush after their first game ever.
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Cause everytime the DC penalty is disabled the game is so much more fun to play, right? Hopefully they never even consider this at all.
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Yeah Yeah so much fun with all this tunneling, camping, slugging, massive slowdown and sweaty killers. Ah and hit registration again: Would be great if guys like you would understand that this is exactly how it should be. Youre not robbed by a hit, cause there was no hit that would be legal.
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How about not tunneling?
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Nobody wants to see a comeback of noscope. It was broken to beyond.
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Using one slowdown perk doesnt makes it an issue. The times are okay for skilled players and thats what everyone decent players tells you.
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@Viamont said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2681533#Comment_2681533
Dont you find it a problem when generators time repair its supoused to be 80 seconds? thats basically those survivors where done in half the time, thats a problem that many killers have pointed out a lot of time. IT is a problem and a very serious one. Learn your basics, clearly you know little to nothing about the game with that atitud and comment
Nah the times were pretty normal. 60s chase + time you needed to get into the chase is enough for a normal gen speed with some great skillchecks. 44s is also pretty nomal if two were on one gen. Nothing with genrush. it was normal gen speed if you dont interrupt them once. And yeah thats not an issue for skilled players.
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Every skilled player will tell you its not.
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Why should any side win consistently at all?
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Thats not genrush. Learn your basics as killer before complaining about something that obviously not a problem at all.
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@Huge_Bush said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2679866#Comment_2679866
Right, you know this as fact because you're telepathic and can easily read the killers mind and learn the intention behind their actions. It has nothing to do with how fast competent survivors can split up on gens and complete 2, sometimes 3 gens before the killer gets their first hook.
So you will tell me that this isnt common knowledge for everyone with at least basic gamesense? Unless youre not using your killer power at all or using a setup killer, youre never gonna loose 3 nor even 2 gens before your first hook. If that happens youre just too weak as a killer player. And for setup killers its just basic knowledge to not cry about the first gens.
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False logic. Killers camp, tunnel and slug cause thats the cheapest way to play and makes survivor gameplay frustrating as hell. You dont do it cause survivors have it easy that would be a blatant lie.
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- You can just ignore clickers. There is nothing that affects you if they click the whole game for nothing. Lightborn isnt used often, cause you can just turn around while picking up a survivor, and at pallets its even good for you cause theyre wasting distance.
- You can hit them, drop the survivor and go for the blocker. Basically two downs.
- This would just be free hooks for killers in too many scenarios, when the killer doesnt deserve it at all.
- Just chase them out of the exit.
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Most players are just bad. Even many players with high amounts of playtime dont get the basic done. Dont know why, but thats my experience playing and watching the past 4 years.
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Maybe, just MAYBE, learn to play killer before going on a cry rampage on the forums? the artist is a high tier killer.
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Maybe you should play more survivor to see that there is nothing more unfun than this at the moment. Most killer players are utterly trash and just tunnel, camp and slug every game, which makes playing survivor the most unfun thing in the game. And the thing ist those killer still get rewarded by MMR for playing like this. Also playing killer became so much easier over the past years its kind of hilarious to say that killer is worse than playing survivor. Stressful? Yeah its a 1 vs 4. Its meant to be stressful as killer cause of its asymmetrical gameplay. I mostly played trapper as killer over the years i dont see any difference in outcomes on my side. My advice: get better at playing killer. there are so many good killers out there and non of them are complaining like this.
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Those advices arent counterplay. thats basic gameplay as always.
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The only change in mindset is that they think playing even more unfun is what is necessary. they still think that they deserve getting many kills.