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I don't mind the loops, I just think there should be less of them. The game would be much more exciting if the number of safe tiles was cut down. Not gutted, just make it to where using pallets mattered more so you really have to think whether you should drop it or not. Right now theres so many pallets and other loops that using them mean nothing as theres plenty for each survivor to have lengthy chases. A couple decently long chases can ruin a game. Even if you drop a chase that's time wasted and even more time to find another survivor and start another chase.
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@SunderMun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1659227#Comment_1659227
Duoing isn't grouping up with 3 other people; it's also widely agreed on that duos are equal to killer, not stronger, so if you're struggling against only duos regularly, IDK what to say about that.
I don't understand why you think I'm struggling with duos. I said get 3 friends and play. You said not many people do that. I took it as you saying people aren't playing with friends because you didn't make it clear what you were referencing. And I just said I usually play against groups with at least 2 people in a swf. You decided to focus on that for some reason. Lol Nowhere does it suggest anyone struggles with duos. The main point was to play with friends and the game becomes easier because of the information that can be shared on comms. That, stay on gens when not in chase, and string together loops when you're chased are the only things I said. It was meant to be a little bit sarcastic lol Obviously there's more to it then that. But that said, if you have any survivors on comms that's a significant advantage. It just becomes larger the more people you're playing with. Whether duos are on par or stronger than the killer doesn't really matter. That wasn't the point. Was just saying play with friends and you'll win more games. 🙂
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@Trwth said:
For more than four years now, the game has been designed around Survivors being able to sprint as long as they want, with the risk being that they're noisy and leave scratch marks. Giving Survivors stamina would throw off the balance completely and swing it in the Killer's favor.
And realistically speaking, yes, anyone can run forever. You'll notice that Survivors don't actually run at their full speed like they do during Sprint Burst. I run cross country and I know that stamina over speed is essential, or else you'll spend all of your energy and get exhausted for 40 seconds. :)
I get that but the main point I'm trying to make is there's too much safety in most maps and something needs to be done to balance it. If you mention nerfing survivors they throw a fit but truth of the matter is, aside from a select few maps, most are survivor sided. Not only that, if you dont play the few viable killers it's almost impossible to win against good teams. Idk who you or anyone else go against but I have at least 2 usually more swf in probably 90 percent of my games. All on comms feeding each other information the whole time. That in itself is game breaking. I'd rather see a variety of killers and be able to use a variety of killers with different builds. But that's not gonna happen unless the survivors give a little. They won't though because they have that sense of entitlement and wouldn't play if they had to work harder for their escapes and couldn't bully the killer. There should be a sense of danger around the killer. They should be scary. but right now its almost as if the majority are toys to play with before you escape.Im not just a killer I play both sides. That's why i really think something needs to change. I wouldn't call myself a god survivor but unless it's one of the higher skill ceiling killers even I can loop for 2 to 3 gens at times. running from pallet loop to jungle gym, to window vault... you understand what I'm saying? It feels too easy. I want the excitement and tension back in dbd. Not just play to piss the other side off.
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@SunderMun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1659204#Comment_1659204
...except not that many actually do this.
But they do. I can confidently say most of my games have at least 2 in swf together and if you're not on gens when not in chase then what are you doing? And while you're in a chase if you're not running to loops then what are you doing? I don't see what you're disagreeing with.
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@Hameline said:
I got the game like a week ago, mybe a little more. I got to rank 8, I've been only playing survivor, but I'm still pretty bad and get in games with way better players. The problems isn't just getting ouplayed, I'm also being harrased by player cuz they say how can you be level 8... you so trash...and other thing you may imagine..... is it a way to reset my rank that isn't waiting till the 13th... or disconecting from games??? I've tried using survivors i didn't use but it makes it worse since now i don't even have decent perks. If there is no way to reset it,what else would you recomend? (Besides getting good at the game...i'm trying to but youtube videos may seen not enought ðŸ˜....)
Just do what everyone else does. Get 3 more people all on comms and it's easy mode. Do gens when the killer is chasing someone else and run from loop to loop when you're being chased. Survivor is super simple.
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Killer has to chase each survivor 2 to 3 times through mainly survivor favorable maps full of pallets and various other tiles and loops. Killer has to watch the gens while chasing and hooking these survivors while dealing with their 16 perks. Killer can only chase 1 at a time so if they're not completely braindead and can run in circles the other 3 can work on the already too fast generators until all 5 are done. Coordinated teams are near impossible to beat and most teams have at least 2 that are on comms. That alone screws the killer in many ways. Any small nerfs the survivors get is well needed and it still wouldn't be enough for this game to truly be balanced. As long as you can hit a skillcheck, run from loop to loop and use your camera to watch the killer you can play survivor. Survivor is what I play when I wanna chill because there's nothing to it.
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@AhoyWolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1658818#Comment_1658818
You made a suggestion, and suggestions belong to feedback...
Don't even try to make this into Killers vs Survivors.
I put this in general discussion because I wanted it seen. I've seen plenty topics in general that could've gone into different categories that were left where they were posted
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@Bwsted said:
Killers are already faster than survivors. A fatigue mechanic would be redundant. This isn't F13 where counselors can outrun Jason.
Well the problem is there's too much safety for the survivors. Some survivors can run for long periods stringing together different tiles. So my suggestion of making it so a survivor would essentially get tired after awhile would cut down on that situation. You get 4 who can all run decent enough you're done. As it stands there's so much safety for them that using pallets doesn't matter because there's plenty to go around. It should be a bigger decision to use that pallet. Sure I could slog, play like a jerk and tunnel, run back to the hook, and keep playing the same killers with the same perks but this game is getting boring and I've got a lot of time invested and I used to really enjoy it. Now unless that changes I'm getting to where I hate it.
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Really gonna move my discussion because you don't like my opinion? Wow these admins must be survivor mains
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It's always funny to me to see these posts. The game is so survivor sided that if you're having trouble it says more about you than the killer. All survivors have to do is run a meta build and run to the over abundance of pallets and various other loops on the map over and over while the rest of the team rushes gens. I don't and never will feel sorry for any survivors. Killers do what they have to do and run whatever they have to run to try and counter the survivors bs then you see the survivors crying about it here. DBD has to be there only asymmetrical mp game where the "power role " is anything but. Probably not a popular opinion but nobody can change my mind and I can't change yours. So the cycle continues. Such is the dbd experience. If you wanna leave more power to you, but I'd bet my last dime you, just like the rest of us, will always crawl back. Maybe not today or tomorrow but you'll be back.
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I'm not sure they do. I think a reduction in pallets and weaker tiles are definitely needed. Most competent survivors can chain them together and it's a nightmare with nothing you can do. You can try to mind game and pull out all the tricks but "good" survivors will still have that extra step on you. Even if you leave to find another survivor you just wasted time and probably lost gens on a useless chase. Using pallets needs to matter. On most maps right now theres so many and other loops it doesn't. A survivor should not be able to run 5 gens. It doesn't make you good just because you can get to another pallet or loop, it just means the maps are survivor sided and poorly designed. So yea that, gen speeds, meta builds, they think all that equals skill and will argue to death that it is.
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@Kees_T said:
Killers are just our toys to play with and make fun of them. Don't treat them like they're human or something.
Nice attempt at bait but doesn't look like you're catching much. Next time you troll, don't be so obvious about it and you'll get more hits. GG better luck next time.
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@KingFrost said:
Had it happen to me 4 times. Seen it happen to someone else once. They're supposed to fix it in the next patch.
Oh that's good to hear. It's really annoying. I had it happen twice recently but thought the first time was just a random bug. Didnt realize it was happening so often.
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@StardustSpeedway said:
I ran into the same Nea who I'm assuming was on PC like 4 matches in a row last night and it was pretty cool that we survived 3/4 matches when our team mates were nothing but potatoes. I had never seen that happening btw where I've run across the same player for 4 matches in a row lol.
Yeah I dont think I've ever seen that happen. Twice I've seen many times but not 3 and 4 times.
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I'm having a similar problem only when I return to the lobby after a trial my game completely crashes.
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I kinda played dbd in vr with psvr when I first got it. You can play anything on the headset but it's just like sitting in front of a large screen, not actual vr. Still kinda cool playing killer though.
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@ThisGuuy83 said:
Sad it's come to this, but I can't keep up anymore. swf's is dominating ps4, and they suck any bit of fun outta the game for the killer. It'd be one thing if they were actually good, but all they do is exploit bugs(360 bug, dark spot bugs, auto aim bug) run the same Meta perks, and all on coms. I'm not otz, I'm not tru3. I don't get paid to stream games. I have a regular job, and a life. Hell, I don't even think they'd be as good as they are on ps4. Something seriously needs to be done. I'm not the first, and I damn sure won't be the last either. More and more killers are taking breaks, or flat out quitting the game because of how overpowering swf's has become. When is enough actually enough behavior? Why is this still tolerated? And allll you swf's can get mad, yell at the screen, and pound your fingers on your keyboard telling me how fair it is, how most just wanna play with there friends and ain't toxic, blah, blah, blah. You know as well as I do, it's nothing but BS.
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I feel you. I play on ps4. I'm a rank 1 killer main and it's become a sweat fest. I've been taking somewhat of a break myself. Still a game or two here and there but quickly get tired of the bs. For a long time dbd was the only game I played. Recently I bought the quantic dream bundle of Detroit become human, heavy rain, and beyond two souls. Had a blast with Detroit playing my first playthrough in one sitting lol Just purchased and started Ghost of Tsushima too so DBD will continue to be placed on the backburner for awhile. Try playing other games for a bit. I'm actually really enjoying the my time with other titles. If more people actually stopped playing killer and stuck to it, they'd have to do something. I love dbd, but with the way things are currently, I don't have the same passion I used to for it. Sad thing is, idk if I ever will. Not to sound overly dramatic but it does suck things have gotten this bad.
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@Yamaoka said:
There's no such thing as one single best player for a killer. While I am able to use 100% of Bubba's potential so are many other people. I've seen Otz using exactly the same pallet chainsaw baits as me every now and then resulting in quick and unexpected downs. Now that's already two people doing the exact same thing in the same situation. Now you tell me who's the better Bubba when two people with thousands of hours in the game do the same exact thing? 🤔 That's just one example. I'm sure @GrootDude , @LordGlint etc etc. are all using 100% of Bubba's potential as well.
You get the point. There's many phenomenal players out there some of which don't even post content.
I assume he's asking for opinions on which content creators are best at certain killers. It doesn't mean others aren't good at them. I feel like your reply is some kind of weird flex. Honestly there's no way to know who is truly the best because theres always a chance someone is better. But people do have opinions on this sort of thing and that's all he's asking for.
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@malatruse said:
"Connection with this quote could not be established. Please try again."
Also had a nice lol when I got "YEEHAW" right before spawning into dead dawg saloon.
Yeah the connection one is a good one!
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@Buttercake said:
This idea is a pile of crap. Why isn't Switch part of 'console' wars? 😢
Hey I never counted it out. I own a switch too. I just dont see how it would work without giving one of the 3 a bye straight to the main game. Unless the console part is dropped and added PC to the mix, but then it's not console wars. More of a crossplay battle royale to see which platform is the best and we all know who has the advantage there.
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@LilTinyPump120 said:
I hate noed like if u go up aganst a killer who camps, tunnels, u name it and u manage to get all gens done (at the cost of ur friend because they ran the killer the whole game) and your at the exit gate about to escape but nope noed just deletes all ur time and effort and the thing that annoys me the most If the perk noed gets a speed boost like why surely you should be slower for using the perk and overall its broken and everyone hates it yet the devs do absolutely nothing about it
Kind of pointless post if I'm honest. No offense but there's so many posts about noed all saying the same thing. All I'm saying is get ready for nearly every response to be "do bones" And rightly so.
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Not to be rude but with Freddy at those ranks I'd worry if you lost. That being said they were probably just messing around trying to bully instead of actually play right. But good job regardless. I know those teams can be annoying at first but really easy to kill since they pretty much throw themselves at you.
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You get an A+ lmao
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@tippy2k2 said:
I've never heard it referred to as "Zoning" but that makes sense and I absolutely do that (even with killers who aren't the doctor).
Any killer worth their salt should have map awareness and use their own body position to try to force survivors to go in your desired direction (generally away from pallets/windows or towards the Basement). It's probably easier with someone like The Doctor but if you're not pushing the survivors in certain directions during chase, you're not being as effective as you could be.
Exactly. Most people who play know this. After I tried explaining that to the guy he told me I was trash if I had to use zoning to get hits lmao That's like using clowns gas to block off safe areas and someone saying you're garbage because you didnt directly hit the survivor.
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I got 50k. Some people got 100k. I didn't complete the exam so don't really know what it's for or why the amounts differ between players.
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@CANxOFxCORN said:
I mean im on pc and could edit the game files to get whatever i want, but dont want to risk EAC
Right, that's what I was saying. It'd be nice to be able to have nice icons without risking being banned wouldn't it?
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@xCarrie said:
They could, I can’t see it as a purchase though. Maybe as a reward for the rift? Like at a certain tier the reward would be a style perk pack? (Black and white, glowing, neon, bloody, etc.)
Purchased or earned either way would be fine with me. I just think it'd be cool to have. Maybe if this post gets enough attention they will see it and at least think about it 😂
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@OmegaXII said:
I think the key of succeed as hag is to use your knowledge as survivor. If you're survivor main and wanna play killer, then this killer is for you.
Basically what you need to do is you walk around the map, mimicking how you walk or being chased as survivor , and laying traps at key points such as narrow pathway, vaults, shortest distance to pallet, etc. Most of the time the trap will work.
I had a match where i only layed 3 traps before seeing the survivor, and that particular survivor triggered all my 3 traps and downed. It was so satisfying!
I'm just sharing this information here. Hope someone can benefit from it.
Yea that's how she is played. My favorite thing about hag is putting the traps on the other side of pallets that way when they run through it you get a guaranteed hit by either the survivor running back toward you or teleporting if they drop the pallet.
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I have a friend on ps4 who literally cannot run when we get on those maps. His character will move very very slowly. I've never seen anyone else have that issue. When we play swf those maps are the bain of our existence.
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@Respectfulnancymain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1250921#Comment_1250921
Yea ik just mentiong that both sides are hypocritical not just survivors
Yeah the community as a whole is toxic. Neither side will budge one way or the other. They refuse to see the other sides point of view. I'm a rank 1 killer and survivor. I see the hypocrisy more from survivors but it's definitely there from killers too. Another example I got from a survivor was a message I got after the game saying I was scummy because I "respected 360s, bt, and ds" What else am I supposed to do? I see it all the time.
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@Respectfulnancymain said:
Ok and? Killers cry about ds then say "jUsT Do BoNeS" its really hypocrisy from the community really. Tho i understand making posts like this i made a post about killer hypocrisy a whileee ago which i regret making now since i was a survivor main back then
Personally I almost never get hit with ds since I rarely go for the person who was just unhooked. If I do I just slug and let someone else get them up. I don't fault survivors for running it though. Nobody wants to be tunneled off the hook. When it comes to noed, the argument really is to cleanse totems if you're afraid the killer has it. If they cleanse it helps the killer time wise. If they don't they risk being 1 shot. This post isn't about whether this perk or that perk should be ran. It's more about people are gonna run what they want, so if you're bringing whatever you think is going to help you win, expect your opponent to do the same.
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@metalklok said:
Its the most stupid argument ever. "YOU ONLY WON CAUSE OF NOED", but the same can be said when they win because of ds,iron will, borrowed time(BORROWED TIME SUCKS) etc etc.
Exactly. It's like they don't see the hypocrisy in that. Both sides are gonna run what helps them win. That's what perks are there for. You can't expect them not too. Especially because the opposing side said so. I just thought it was ironic this guy said he would've been able to use his perks to win had I not used mine.
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Yamaoka maps are the worst but I think that most maps need to be a bit brighter on console. I hope the devs take a look and help us out.
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@TheVVitch What platform are you on? I know pc players had been making their way into ps4 lobbies somehow as well. I saw a few videos of it and then had it happen to me personally. Had a legacy survivor, think it was a dwight, join my lobby with the globe icon and his name was just blocks.
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@Raven014 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1041130#Comment_1041130
Right now, escape seems impossible. The only way out at the moment is... well, the Void. But the Void is certain death of the soul.
However, the Entity's weaknesses are starting to be revealed. We already knew of one (Lightburn), but there are worlds that could potentially fight back against them (the Observer mentioned this). Perhaps, through these informed worlds, they could be freed.
That reminds me of a qna the devs did where a player asked if there was a way to kill the killer. Mathieu responded with this:
"We hinted to that at some point, to having a very secret sequence of things that could allow you to do that, maybe not killing the killer, but escaping for real."
That would be cool if there was a secret sequence of events in that game that did trigger some kind of event. I wonder if there are any secrets we don't know about.
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@Keezo Idk why but I wasn't expecting anyone to say hag. Especially not first, but now that you mention it, it sounds like it would be pretty interesting.
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I've posted about this before. Another user compiled a list of lore related questions, and answers from the devs.
Q: WILL THERE EVER BE A WAY TO KILL THE KILLER?
A :"We hinted to that at some point, to having a very secret sequence of things that could allow you to do that, maybe not killing the killer, but escaping for real.
That answer was really interesting, but I honestly doubt such a thing exists or will ever exist. As someone said in my post about it, data miners would have found it.
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I used to play a lot more than I do now. At my peak I was playing all night almost every night. Lately I play maybe 1-3 hours each night.
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A big TV is a problem for me only until I'm used to it. I have a console in my bedroom and my living room. In my bedroom I use a monitor. 22 inch I believe. In my living room I have a bigger tv. I play 95% of the time on my monitor and when I do play on the TV it takes some time to adjust. Usually after a few games it's not that big of a deal but I do find it a lot easier to play on my smaller screen.
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She's obviously not that good, but she figured out a way to get 2 kills. Kinda scummy but effective nonetheless.
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@powerbats I wish they would focus more on fixes and less on new content.
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@TreemanXD I just went back until I saw it on hybrid panda's shrine watch series. So I'm pretty sure that's how long it's been.
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@Boss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/367946#Comment_367946
Hah, tell that to those who wait for B&C.
Haha right. I just paid up for Leatherface instead of waiting.
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I think it's been about 6 months since it was last on the shrine so it was bound to come around again eventually.
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I dont see that gen rushing is that big of a deal. There's perks to slow the game, and different strategies to use to combat this. If you are honestly having that much trouble use a noed blood warden combo. If they're doing gens that fast I doubt they're doing totems. Maybe try a slugging strat where you down a guy, chase another, then one of the other 2 has to pick the first up. That leaves 1 guy on a generator. I do that sometimes if I need time. Don't get sucked into long chases near safe loops. Sooner or later you'll catch them out. Sometimes you might have to drop chases to pressure others off the gens. There's plenty ways to counter. Just have to figure it out.
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Trapper would start with all his traps so you don't have to waste time going out of your way to pick them up. You already have to take time to place them. So once you pick them up and place you're gonna give up at least 1 or 2 gens before you start patrolling for survivors.
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Not sure if this counts but recently I had a match as wraith against 3 claudettes and a David. One of the Claudettes had a flashlight. Now normally this doesnt bother me because it's easily avoidable. My problem was the pallets were bugged and invisible the whole game so I never knew where they were so I kept getting slammed and blinded. That's only part of the problem though. Skip to the end of the game. The flashlight claudette and David are left. I down David by a gen right next to where the hatch spawned and he crawls on top of it. Hes on death hook so I didnt wanna hook him and let that claudette get hatch in case they were swf and he tells her where it is. I leave him down and search for the claudette who is fully immersed and hard to find. By this time David is getting close to bleeding out so i pick him up and let him wiggle out to prevent the hatch opening. I guess he thinks I'm gonna let him live so he goes to work on the gen. I finally see the Claudette and I down her knowing she's not close to the hatch. I go back to the gen David was working and hes still there. I down and hook him, he dies. I go back to get the claudette and hook her to claim the 4k. I guess it's a bit petty since I could've killed David and pipped whether claudette got hatch or not but I really wanted to kill her.
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Finally! What an awesome announcement. It's about time.
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Hatch sucks for sure, but most games I slug the 3rd to get the 4th. Doesn't work every time but if I've killed 3 survivors and the last guy happens to get the hatch that's still a win to me. I do believe there should be a point threshold or something that shows you contributed enough to deserve the hatch in the first place though. Hopefully one day they will figure out something that satisfies the community and we can stop talking about it.
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It's happening to me on Xbox. Vial doesn't show up on screen and I can't harvest nectar as survivor. I had just finished a vial when it started.Â
Cloud id: 1f2b0170-99b2-11e7-aa37-3f6aac87269b
EDIT*Â Happening on killer too. Killer vial is half full but vial doesn't show up on screen.Â