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@FishFry247 said:
Yea it still sucks that 1 bad chase can ruin the game, or get maps like Haddon field and Auto haven. This game isn't to skill based ether tbf. You will (not often) lose to people with less skill than you. And it sucks sometimes, Understand why so many killers get annoyed about that
Okay I understand that but nerfing survivors some more and giving them more M1 or LB isn't the solution, adding a secondary objective isn't the way to go either remember the last even with the flowers? Survivors got murdered.
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@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/83784/the-trend-i-see-with-killer-mains
Its maybe because the game was completely survivor favorered at the beginning of the game. Now its in a pretty balanced state, but there are still a few problems with it like repedetively survivor gameplay and some maps. You can't just say "fixing actual game problems" is just "nerfing survivors due to whining killer mains". Thats just a lie. Remember various Nurse nerfs. Remember (me) Freddy nerfs. Remember Legion destruction.
Nurse didn't recieve a huge nerf, and she's still considered top tier (Omega Nurse Oops), Freddy didn't even get nerfed all they did was flip his ability that made him see survivors outside his terror radius rather than inside which gave him natural bbq and chili. Then of course are we gonna ignore Moonwalking Legion? Are we really doing this?
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655378#Comment_655378
Nah mate streamers are the only people worth listening to, for they are the mighty wolves and we are mere sheep. Also they know everything because they have the devs on speed dial.
I'm sorry I didn't know my place, I will go online now and allow the killer to kill me. Forgive me for my tresgression.
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@altruistic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655375#Comment_655375
I literally gave you numbers, and you still deny it. You can’t pick and choose based off what fits your narrative.
this guy is literally just gonna respond with watch the streamers for proof.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655359#Comment_655359
No, I've made my point, and I'm not interested in derailing this thread any further. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that "anything else" was simply a polite invitation to continue the discussion, even though I suspect that's not the case.
this guy literally just tries to tell people they're wrong and need to watch streamers to see proof as if we ourselves don't play the ######### game.
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655344#Comment_655344
...true is an exact 50/50 player.....shows you know very little of him
You clearly watch True religiously, but the man has more killer videos than survivor,.
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@SteelDragon said:
for context see this video by Tru3talent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3seF7dtTXA
2:20 seconds into a red ranks game, with NO RUIN but he does have PoP, 3 gens are done with a 4th at 75% completion. this proves that gens either need to be nerfed or a new objective needs to be added to the game to slow the game down further. now it was without ruin but when the game balance is to a point where if you don't run ruin you can have a game like this then it is a problem, then you are building a loadout with only 3 perks not 4. unlike people who run adrenaline they CHOOSE to run 3 perks for most of the game, this is either run 3 perks or your games can end in a shorter time than it took you to find a game lobby.
You're listening to a guy who literally got a mori off, a hook, and 2 dcs. This is your god?
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@Jesya said:
Is there ever going to be an "argument" on these forums where people don't speak about killer mains and bring up Tru3? He isn't the only killer main and he doesn't speak for the "killer main" community. His word isn't gospel.
I'm not speaking on all Killer mains just a small group of them.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655331#Comment_655331
Do... do you know what data means? If that's not anecdotal evidence, I don't know what is.
I made sure to say only a select few not all Killer mains.
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@altruistic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655322#Comment_655322
Gen speeds are more than fine. In my 15 games last night, the average match lasted 19 minutes. Here are the other stats if you’re curious : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fmwuhlmag8s32myoqtKQvCxneF5WNWhRvE4bz6pWfRQ
I am gonna play 100 solo games and see the end results, but I imagine the results won’t change that much.
Thank you for providing proof vs just making a statement and not backing up your evidence.
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655328#Comment_655328
Go look up tru3etalent, the dbd casefile series from bricky , watch any streamer with tons of in game experiance..its universal..I've played every killer but clown and bubba extensively, I've played a good deal of survivor as well..I've seen just about all I can see here...I've seen it in the past versions of dbd and I've seen it in the time I've been here..just look around you dude
I do watch streamers on both sides usually I see killers whine saying they can't get their 4k, and I see survivors getting brutally murdered by the killer unless they ran with a squad. TrueTalent =Killer Main Bricky= Killer Main Those guys are trying to speak for a group they rarely ever play so how does that correlate with survivors?
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/83784/the-trend-i-see-with-killer-mains
Thinking DS was fine the way it used to be (It wasn't fine) is... oof. You can't look at old DS and seriously think that was balanced, can you?
Borrowed Time needed to be nerfed. People would just go in and rescue with zero consequences because that's what the perk allowed people to do. It made it impossible for Killers to defend their objective at all, which they have the right to do. Borrowed Time has also literally be consistently buffed the past year.
Vaulting got changed because infinites caused by fast vaulting places that are not supposed to be fast vaultable breaks the balance of a lot of maps. Who would have thought?
People have always been complaining about how fast gens can be done, especially since the depip squad showed how easy it is to do. I honestly don't know what you are talking about.
People complain about SWF because the game literally was not balanced with communication in mind. Therefore, it's no surprise that SWF breaks the balance of the game and people (justifiably) complain about it.
DS was a carbon copy of Friday the 13th game feature it was a one time use and you had to be the obession for it to work especially if you weren't obession you needed to reach 30% wiggle bar, even then Killers would juggle survivors to counter DS. Vaulting didn't need to be nerfed so bad that the killer can still hit you despite being on the other side already. BT was created as a anti camping perk, if you weren't in the area of the hook BT didn't work you could sit there and camp but you got punished for camping.
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@[Deleted User] said:
They won’t increase gen times. They wouldn’t have removed Freddy’s action penalty if they thought longer gen times were ok.
If the devs are pressured enough they'll cave in and apply the demand eventually they've done it before.
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655324#Comment_655324
Its not... this is what you see when someone only plays one side..
What data do you have can you provide them to me then since you know so much.
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655310#Comment_655310
I'll leave you with this...the fact you just assume hexes should always be easy and temporary snd the fact you dont quite understand that ruin is needed to band aid fix the poor gen balancing..plus you assume there arnt enough survivors which is why cues are bad when actually there arnt enough killers because the balance is still very poor outside the top 3-6..so I doubt there will be much productive convorsation
See this right here..... Gen was never the issue until recently, which means survivors have decided to start gen jocking vs doing other things. There's a reason for this you obviously chose to ignore that factor. Killers are the ones not able to find a lobby, you know why? There aren't enough survivors in general which is why they usually get paired up with survivors outside their ranks. Hexes whole purpose even Monto says this is to "Slow the game down just a little bit", you wouldn't be saying any of this if a perk like Small Game didn't exist. If you want to slow the game down run PGTW, Corrupt Intervention, or Thrilling Tremors . Gen balancing wasn't a issue until survivors said ######### this I'm working on Gens.
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655278#Comment_655278
Ah your one of those guys..yeah sorry but I see talking to you eoll be like talking to a rock...
Okay but you haven't contributed anything that will change my mind or at least inform me of anything all you literally just said was, "Ok your obviously not thinking this through dude" You're not saying anything so goodbye.
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655263#Comment_655263
Ok..no..? Clearly you arnt
Literally what is there to think through, most Killer mains enjoy slaughtering survivors so Ruin isn't going to be that big of a deal. With small game being used more frequently the totem isn't going to last anyways. Hex perks weren't meant to last forever just temporarily.
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@swamptrash said:
So small game is good but not really needed i feel like its a waste of space.... I mean u know. Its not hard to find totems. Its a crutch. I actually love it when a killer runs nodead
Is this sarcasm
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655176#Comment_655176
Ok your obviously not thinking this through dude
I am
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/653574#Comment_653574
And if ruin fell out the game would lose more killers
Killers won't go anywhere you know why because they come to this game to fulfill their sadistic desires, then they have other perks that act like ruins, and of course if they were to lose more killers just means other killers would have more survivors to play against
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@savevatznick said:
Detective's hunch is better.
Sorta
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@BunnyTheHutt said:
Title, really hate being in high ranks because every game gens are done in what feels like 5 mins.
Ruin is not a good gen rushing counter since it's a totem perk
Pop Goes only works if you can down people fast, which may not happen depending on who you are playing.
Thana only works on Huntress, Legion, and Plague, and is pretty pointless on those who can't constantly keep people injured.
Lullaby, Overcharge, and other skill check perks work at low ranks, but the higher you get the harder it is too see a failed skillcheck, even with overcharge. And lullaby is shown right at the start of the match, so it suffers from both ruin and Pop goes problem in it'll get popped early or you won't get tokens too make it matter.
IMO a good change would be too increase gen length until the devs make a second objective. I know no one wants it or likes it, but with toolboxes, Brand New Part, and Prove Thyself, I can't see 20 seconds being enough too make it feel any different. Another good change is a second objective, where you have too find gas cans too power up a gen, or find the bulbs for the exit gates, or something else because right now it really sucks too be a high rank killer unless you want too only play Nurse.
This isn't Friday the 13th, no GIT GUD as the killers always tell me as they camp and tunnel
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@Jacoby2041 said:
Yes use that perk so that's one less meta perk I have to deal with
*Laughs in SWF* silly rabbit only one person needs a SG
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@Mochan said:
What is this nonsense. NoED has been meta for years.
Small Game is useless and is only good as training wheels for beginners who don't know where totems spawn, or when you are bad against Trapper.
Ever since noed got buffed all killers been running Noed 1 so it's better for one person to run it
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@Th3Nightmare said:
Each time a survivor is hung on the hook, this survivor gets a debuff of: 2/4% speed of action (repair only)
The numbers may be different.
Why this effect?
Once it is hung on the hook, the survivor is damaged by the entity, so ... his repair actions are damaged.
Hmmm Opinions about this?
Promotes camping
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@JESUS_CHRIST said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/654144#Comment_654144
I like going in raw and searching them nooks and crannies.
Waste of time SG ftw
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@inutilem said:
I use NOED more frequently lately. Why I do this? Because gens take zero skill to complete and with or without ruin they take only minutes to finish all 5. If I had more time on my hands as killer, I probably would never run it and totally be in favor of it being removed from the game(though if things were that way from the start in DBD, NOED might never have existed in the first place).
NOED takes zero skills also and if you get gen rushed that badly there are perks to counter the gen rush that isn't called Ruin
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@MrDardon said:
Inner Strenght is gonna be the new hero.
*Laughs in Iron Maiden*
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@altruistic said:
Small Game is amazing. I’ve been using it since I am back to playing again. The totems are not always so easy to find, it can be a game changer.
If more Survivors equipped SG, Ruin and NOED would fall out of the meta.
Every team needs at least one SG user.
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@TAG said:
So as long as the team has a dedicated Bone Breaker, all is well?
Tbh NOED is still a cheap route to winning, but if you feel like you need to run it go ahead.
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@MegsAreEvil said:
So annother one who cant comprehend whats wrong with NOED. Yikes
I'm aware of what's wrong with NOED but the devs purposely buffed it and we all know they won't touch it. So I'm willing to break totems and prevent killers from using it and incentive them to use something else. Until they nerf it or killers stop running it what else can we do.
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@FireHazard said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/653285#Comment_653285
Happens to the best of us.
Not anymore *NOED flashbacks* not anymore
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@Chocolate_Cosmos said:
Small Game is love, Small Game is life <3
You can say that again ❤️❤️
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@FireHazard said:
NOED has been rampant since they updated it to give the exposed status effect to all tiers of the perk.
Its mostly dominant at Yellow, Green and Purple Ranks. You sometimes see it in Red Ranks but that's only when its on a Killer like Wraith, Trapper, or Freddy 1.0
Its just a throw away perk that taxes on bad Survivors, that's literally it...
Still not gonna catch me slipping friend
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@NuclearBurrito said:
Thank you. Every team needs it's small game user for doing bones.
People need SG more than ever.
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@Seltas0208 said:
You get hate mail for doing totems? God what has the world come too
I've recieved over 14 message from seperate killers telling me to ######### off or die in a hole, all because I took the advice of their own which was "Do TOTEMS and you won't get hit with NOED" I'm confused man.
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The nerfed survivors a lot and buffed killers a lot. Killers are still whining and want more nerfs. Case in point this forums.
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@Zanely89 said:
Negative Nancy gonna negative
I'm only negative because there's nothing positive to say about ######### killers
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@immortalls96 said:
Well...thanks for using a jackass who messaged you to represent everyone
9 jackasses
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@joker7997 said:
I know they are annoying but there is no way in hell this is ever going to happen. If you get a toxic team just faceamp, it makes me feel better, and as a bonus you depip, do it enough times and you'll get survivors that are more fun to play against.
To translate. "I don't like challenges, I rather take a game where survivors crouch all game and farm off other survivors."
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@lynelmane said:
When you use a splinter, you should be guaranteed a safety pip. Obviously, it's a killer you dont have, so you arent going to be good at them.
Kinda sucks when you derank because you had a shite game because you played a killer you dont even own.
But you chose to run the Splinter tho?
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@xnes_galax said:
Most Killers moves at 4.6 m/s , so 50% is 2.3 m/s. Not 3.15 m/s. Unless you were talking about something else.
I think this could be helpful in some situation, but still not really powerful.
Imo it's worth for some testing at least
If a Dev says this isn't a good idea, that's like a Doctor telling you you're diagnosed with a sickness and you try to counter that.
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@THEghostface said:
I wonder who the heck in the community thinks of him negatively? He's absolutely fine as as he is. I think it's a good idea to remember that Ghost Face needs at least 20% of his body in your view within range in order to break him out. It's like a Ghost getting stopped by a pallet, so he begins to lean beside the other side of the pallet. The survivor is gonna try to break his power, but they most likely only get his head.
Make his reveal harder so he can one shot you no thanks
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@justarandy said:
Since devs never talk about second objectives and I personally lost hope on that (cuz devs are just so focused on adding new DLCs noone needs atm or just simply can't because idk) I thought about adding ruin into basekit to counter genrush but with rules and requirements:
- Ruin can't be destroyed
- Ruin will deactivate after 3 hooks or/and 3 gens popping
- The effect of ruin is depended on killer tier and survivor rank (Nurse for example will have a weaker version of ruin than wraith, rank 1 survivors will have to deal with a stronger version of ruin than rank 15 survivors, maybe rank 16-20 has no ruin)
Thoughts?
No
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@Fictionalname said:
This incredibly stupid fantasy that there's less survivors than killers CauSE kIlLeR lObBy iS lOnGeR
As of RIGHT NOW there is: 120 killers and 406 survivors waiting in lobbies.
I'm not sure if I can link the website showing this, but you can probably google it. There's NEVER less survivors than there is killers. It's always MINIMUM the double up
Delete this post you're making yourself look like a Jackass
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/649397#Comment_649397
I saw plenty of survivors escaping 3 gen strats are rank 1, so your point is invalid. But how you kill 1 person ? Because you said to abandon chases with strong survivors to chase weak survivors. But if in that team aren't any weak survivors, who you chase then ? How you kill them then ?
Maybe because I play strategically and with Myers.
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/649356#Comment_649356
You still can't put enough pressure on 4 survivors. It doesn't matter that you have a 3 gen strat, if 4 survivors are still alive, they gonna get the gens done. And the 3 gens strats is just survivors fault that they didn't spread out the gens.
I would agree if I failed this repeatdly at rank 1 but I don't so sounds like your issue at this point. If plenty other can pull it off then you should be able to, and at that point one survivor should be dead if you haven't kill one person yet well I don't know what to tell you.
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@Digwiid said:
Before i opened this i was thinking; "It's going to be that locker thing again isn't it?"
Lo and behold.
He's fine as he is, so i'll say no thanks.
He fine for being a cheap Myers knock off, it's too easy to stalk and the fact you can run faster than a survivor this was a bailout, and lazy. P.B.P.
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@Richter_Cade said:
Killer main of about 100 hours and decided to try survivor out. Threw some BP into David and Laurie. My experiences.
Camped.
Tunnelled and camped.
Nobody came, died on first hook. Happened several times. They weren't doing gens either, at least half were just crouching middle of nowhere.
Tunnelled more.
Camped more.
Looped killer for 3 gens, spent 2 mins with him slapping me on the hook. Everybody else finished up and left.
Tunnelled more.
Random LF approaches with the power of unholy lag and insidious. Mayhem ensued.
There were a few good games but my Lord, it's hard being competent (I think I'm competent) down in yellow and I'm happy that I'll soon be out of this hellhole. When do I start seeing the survivors I have to deal with who do gens and things? When will I find killers like me who understand that not camping might get you more points?
Rant over, and my sympathies to all new survivor players.
This is what I'm talking about man, I keep addressing this issue but the only thing I get is GIT GUD. You'll see a increase in playerbase momentarily, then a big dip after a few weeks.
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/649340#Comment_649340
But survivors can avoid 3 gens strats + if they are 4 survivors alive, a 3 gen strat will do nothing, because you still need to down and kill the survivors, but if survivors put enough pressure on gens, you won't succeed.
That's if you're impatient, patience goes a long way. If you're insecure you can run Surveillance which makes this strat strong, if they don't play by your rules they just make it harder on themselves. If you catch them working on any of the gens just hit them and force them away, if they're feeling frisky they're more likely to return to that gen and more than likely they will screw up. I do this strat especially against swf groups and I always get a 4k out of it.