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@podkall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953983#Comment_953983
Rank 18 killer Rank 8 survivor
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953975#Comment_953975
Maybe
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953992#Comment_953992
Maybe rank 18 on killer could be the reason but what about survivor? I'm roughly rank 10 that should be most people at right?
Yes, Rank 18 will take a very long time.
As for Rank 10, there could be a lot of Green rank Survivors and not a lot of Killers, I do not know.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953992#Comment_953992
Sorry I thought you meant all ranks. Even at purple ranks both queues are instant but red rank survivor even solo queue takes 5+ mins. I play on xb1 btw.
No no, I can only speak for my own rank. I don't know anything about purple or green q's.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953897#Comment_953897
Maybe at red ranks.
That is where I play, so I can only speak for that particular group.
My brother does tell me that Rank 15-20 q's are a nightmare.
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Do you code? Do you know how difficult it is to account for every single variable and loophole people will find?
Cut them some slack, they are on a well-deserved holiday.
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@podkall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953935#Comment_953935
you should be happy on your consoles cause finding a game here on PC is matter of few minutes every time and for killer it can be even 10 minutes
I would think there are more people playing console DBD
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@DepressedClownMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953912#Comment_953912
But something I have noticed on people that play trapper is that they often dont dare as much as he does like, he gladly gives people 3 gens and unhooks to turn the game to his territory
He also happens to be an extremely good player who rarely loses, even with Killers like LF.
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@podkall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953897#Comment_953897
can you please ######### off with "there are lot more survivors than killers"...
I AM ######### WAITING 3X LONGER QUEUES WITH KILLER IT'S NOT THAT PLAYERS ARE PLAYING ONE SIDE MORE IT'S BROKEN
I'm only speaking from personal experience. On both PS4 and Xbox R1, it takes about 10 seconds to find a Killer lobby.
For Survivor, it takes upwards of 10 minutes
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Some of the challenges are borderline impossible to do.
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@DepressedClownMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953901#Comment_953901
I am not the best Trapper, but Otzdarva says the trapper is rewarded by gens popping and being territorial, so the 2 gens popping is not really an issue
Otz also happens to be an ASCENDED god at Trapper. Most players cannot do what he does, ergo, Trapper is lower.
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Because the Emblem system is #########
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@DepressedClownMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/116041/my-first-tierlist-console
In on pc but I cant really see why is Trapper on D tier
Any player's opinion is welcome, no matter the platform!
I have put Trapper that low for 2 reasons.
1) His setup time. He takes way too long to gather his traps and place them. Even with Corrupt Intervention, a good team can get two gens done before he can get his traps down. If he started with all of them, he would be B tier EASILY.
2) There are no ads-ons involved with this list, if there were, even Doc would be in B tier. His traps are very bright and easy to see. Plus, he can only carry one by default.
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There are a lot more Survivors than Killers right now. Most people do not find Killer enjoyable, either that or the MM is more ######### than we realized.
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@Hag.is.Dtier said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/116041/my-first-tierlist-console
TBH I'm surprised by your Huntress placement. Most would put her at the bottom.
Huntress is definitely more forgiving than Nurse. Plus, I have to take into account their popularity and strength. Huntress is way more popular on console than Nurse.
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@28_stabs said:
AGM and Pulsar, thanks.
You are welcome.
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@Immoral said:
This is a Clown thread. - not Freddy thread
It is directly related to a potential Clown rework, plus, its just some friendly debate and discussion :)
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953084#Comment_953084
While I enjoy new Freddy, I've been a Freddy main for over a year now. When they announced his rework, I decided to take my addons of choice (class photo and nancy's masterpiece) into abunch of farm maps to TRY to get rotten fields (which I considered strong for him). Heres a screenshot I took of the scorecard screen after a 2 minute game that resulted in a 4k with 5 gens to go...
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/737/LWXXU831DTSE.jpg
Thought the black pip with no camping was worthy of a screenshot, lol.
Well, we all know the rank system punishes hyper efficiency.
Old Freddy was GOOD, in the right hands. Problem was, that power was locked behind too many bars and had too many restrictions.
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953081#Comment_953081
I was wondering where the comparison was, makes abit more sense now. I dont consider the main selling point of a killer who loudly screams while flying around the map to be "stealth". Thats like me going "See Billy here, the guy who flys around at mach speeds with a loud as hell chainsaw that 1 shots... Hes got a muffler addon, which makes him a stealth killer."
As far as the devs intention vs the reality of how a killer is played... Shred is the main use of Demo. The guy turns into a sort of short ranged Huntress while NOT being 110% movement speed.
Point in all this being...comparing him to a stealth killer isnt really a good comparison.
If Shred is his main power, why does he have like, two add-ons that affect it? The rest affect his portals. He does slow down when charging Shred, I can't remember if it is 110% or less, but I do know that it is slower than 115%.
Most of Billy's add-ons affect his speed, charge time, cooldown or slowdown. Most of Demo's add-ons affect his stealth time, effects given when touching portals, speed of portals, how many portals he can place, and how fast he can place them.
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953077#Comment_953077
It wasnt the sole reason for the rework as a whole, but it was a large part of it. I remember hearing during a dev stream them say they removed the aura reading because some people didnt know that Freddy COULD read their aura while they were asleep. At the time I thought that was a weird reason... A survivor being uninformed about a killers base power being the reason for a change, not even an obscure addon or anything.
Idk, I think if they left him in that state any longer, people would have rioted. I do remember being awfully confused about why Freddy always found me when I was a baby Survivor tho
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953059#Comment_953059
Im not sure why youd compare Demo and Myers here... The 2 are VERY different with pros and cons to each.
Docs power though (the power to make FPS crash and burn) together with already bad FPS issues CAN indeed make skillchecks tough. After putting everyone in madness tier 2, you could walk off the map and hangout with your killer buddys and the amount of slowdown on those gens would be the same since those graphics cards have surely already melted, lol.
According to the Devs and their choice of add-ons for Demo, his Portals are his main power, meaning he should be stealthy. His Shred is just there as a bonus.
Myers has stealth and snowball, but little anti-loop or map pressure.
Demo is supposed to have map pressure and anti-loop and some stealth. Instead, he is loud as hell, his Shred is iffy at best and his map pressure can be totally avoided by cleansing his power.
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@Immoral said:
Well that's when the mind games and mooning walking start. :P
Then he isn't any better than Myers or GhostFace. He gets easy first hits but he struggles to down anyone.
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@chase131119 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953064#Comment_953064
This man has the right idea.
Now when are we getting rid of his shirt? I need to know.
Thicc Bricc Myers.
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953047#Comment_953047
People felt the aura reading and heavily reduced action speed was annoying, which is why that got removed with the rework.
True. But I don't think that was the sole reason.
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@Immoral said:
Some of her add-ons along with perks can get her up to 190 percent while steathed. I was watch Wraith speed builds. There is so much map pressure because she's everywhere.
No chase potential though. That's only one build as well.
Lots of map pressure is good, but you have to be able to finish chases quickly. Otherwise, you are just an Iri Button Legion :/
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Can...can we just remove the underwear and NOT replace it ;)
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I do. I try to send gg :) every game. Win or lose.
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@Immoral said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953043#Comment_953043
Thanks. I really want to main him,. Just gets frustrating. Thanks for the quick reply.
Of course. You are most welcome, do not be concerned about his power. You can be good at ANY Killer if you practice enough :)
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953041#Comment_953041
Whats your reasoning for placing Doc at the same lvl as Demo and Oni, while placing him ABOVE others?
Doc's power, coupled with some terrible FPS, makes him a legit threat to missing skill checks. He gets way more bang for his buck than Oni or Demo.
Oni had his flick removed and the sensitivity on console is still awful.
DemoDoggo's Shred has a long stun if you miss and with console FPS and sensitivity, it is very difficult to hit. Plus, his portals are loud AF. Why would I pick Demo when I could pick Myers?
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@Immoral said:
Wraith should be top tier with nurse.
Why?
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Console players, such as myself, would simply like to be treated to the same standard of care that our PC brethern are.
There are numerous problems with console DBD, but everyone on console asked for Oni to have the same flick that he did on the PTB.
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@ProfessorDunwich said:
Given their track record, if the killer is not "annoying" for survivors, they won't be touched. Clown isn't seen as "annoying" and more like an easy win for survivors. So he is probably seen as perfectly balanced and won't be changed for some time.
I do not think so. Freddy was not annoying for Survivors. He had one of the lowest Kill rates and was miserable to play as.
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I am sure he is in-line for a buff/rework. I am personally hoping Legion get some love next, but we shall see.
Point being, not sure if it has been officially announced but I am sure he is on their radar.
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@xEa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/116041/my-first-tierlist-console
Nurse is also the best killer on console, most are just bad with her, but that does not mean she isn't the greatest.
You overrate Ghostface an Plague a bit. Trapper should be C or even B Tier.
Otherwise a decent list.
I have had two games against a Nurse in the last month. Everyone got out and it was a red rank Nurse. There are very few Nurse's on console. I do not doubt her power, but her popularity, well, she isn't ever picked; as such i cannot put her higher.
Plague has some decent slowdown and snowball, plus, a lot of console Survivors cleanse.
GF's ability to turn off his TR and get instant downs is INVALUABLE.
If Trapper started with all his traps, he would be B tier at least.
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I am somewhat sure that it does not affect a downed Survivor's RECOVERY speed, but it does increase the amount of time needed to heal them.
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/952924#Comment_952924
Which he has accounted for this time difference STBFL causes, as well as who is GOING to be the obsession when setting up his build.
He is truly the most ASCENDED player we will ever see.
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As much as I would love to share your view, I cannot. Do not misunderstand me though, you are for sure WAYYYYY better for the community than I am. We need more wholesome players like yourself.
I play to win, that's how I get enjoyement out of a game. It is a sad but true reality of my hyper-competitive nature.
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
I agree for the most part. Only things i disagree on is i'd put Oni and Demogorgon in A. I'd also put huntress by nurse since she suffers from the same issues on console.
Oni has a lot of problems. Why would you put them in A?
On console, at least.
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/952890#Comment_952890
The guy regularly uses the most random looking builds that only make sense to him because he knows the exact location of the Claudette that WILL join his lobby in 36 seconds. This haunted grounds hes putting on is for her to cleanse at exactly 6 minutes and 32 seconds into the match when hes swinging at the Nea (who will join the lobby in 37 seconds)...and hes doing it with brown addons. SCREW YO RUIN!!!
@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/952890#Comment_952890
The guy regularly uses the most random looking builds that only make sense to him because he knows the exact location of the Claudette that WILL join his lobby in 36 seconds. This haunted grounds hes putting on is for her to cleanse at exactly 6 minutes and 32 seconds into the match when hes swinging at the Nea (who will join the lobby in 37 seconds)...and hes doing it with brown addons. SCREW YO RUIN!!!
Oh, but remember, STBFL causes him to down all 4 Survivors in approximately .003 seconds thanks to his 8 tokens.
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@terumisan said:
Nurse belongs in d tier but ok.
There are some hella good console Nurse players, there's just only about 5 of them
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/952883#Comment_952883
Its really hard to think of Trapper as being the lowest tier when I've seen what Otz can do with him. In all fairness though...some of Otz's trapper plays seem like borderline mind reading AND fortune telling. The guy could put a trap INSIDE a bush, and even though its physically impossible for a survivor to get in the bush...the trap will still find someones foot.
True. Otz is a Trapper god, but I'm thinking of a generic meta build with zero add-ons. If he started with all of his traps and they were darker, at least B tier.
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@Liruliniel said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/952883#Comment_952883
Mostly what your reasoning for each placement. With the perfect build or just a generic meta build, Addons or not?
Generic meta build, zero add-ons.
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@Liruliniel said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/116041/my-first-tierlist-console
Weird list imho. Everyone has a right to think differently though. Mine would honestly be quite different. May I inquire to your reasoning on all killers?
I play PS4 and PC for rephrase. I've played on Xbox with my friends account as well. Never tried switch.
@Tr0g said:
Trapper should be B or C tier, he can actually be pretty decent with add-ons. His ability does not suffer from console controllers and their poor character control. Billy should be lower imo, he is harder to play with a controller. I barely see people play Billy.
Well, what specifically do you want to know?
Trapper is kinda bad without add-ons. He is outdated, if he started with all of his traps, he would be easily B tier.
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I actually think hatch closing is one of the most healthy things that BHVR has ever added.
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@Thomasthetrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/952716#Comment_952716
I've faced pigs who tried to mindgame at loops with the ambush.
Honestly,they always failed;it seems pretty easy to avoid.
But Pig has some stall,yes and she is not too bad overall;wish I could play her more but I'm trying to level up Oni x)
Her ability to turn ir her TR is extremely valuable.
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@Umbrae_pk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951125#Comment_951125
Easy solution: don’t play Legion. He’s just bad
Nurse on the other hand it still very good, and very much the same. It just takes a little longer to down someone.
Not what I am referring too. Their strength does not matter. They FEEL miserable to play. Both of them suck on console, especially, but Nurse makes me physically ill and Legion gives me a headache with his stun. Both feel clunky.
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She does have stall. It isn't much, but it is there. She has some anti-loop mindgame, again, not much but it's there. She has no map pressure and zero snowball tho
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It's a good trick, I legit just wanted to see it for myself when you were picking up the pallet lol
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@PistolTimb said:
Why complain? Take the loss and move on.
If I were a newer player I would be upset too.
@Shenochek tough it out man. My first game was against a team of Claudette's with flashlights while I was playing Wraith. I was a baby Rank 20 and I got spammed with hatemail because I killed the one lower ranked player. You gotta tough it out, this should be fixed when the Devs come back to the office, until then, don't take the game too seriously.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951134#Comment_951134
Exhaustion is much more boring to use than watching survivors miss skill checks left and right.
Honestly, even though I hate playing against 3-gen Doc, it is hella entertaining to play as.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951068#Comment_951068
No you have it backwards kid.
The standard for reworks should be Freddy, powerful but not oppressive.
Legion and Nurse, while arguably more fair for Survivors, are absolutely miserable to play as.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951053#Comment_951053
There is no aim assist.
Oh yes, I forgot, it is "enhanced animations."