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And both are small
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@MrBeast said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/690774#Comment_690774
Dude she is broken OP without addons, she is not fun to play with or against this is not my opinion its streamers and killers main opinion.
Who cares about what streamers have to say? They're just normal players with a cam and they're not better than the others lol
At least find your opinion without using the others. Prayer beads is broken, not the killer itself. Learn to play against her because she's not the M1 killer that you and your friends can run for hours over infinites or bully them
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Imagine Annie Wilkes with her hammer as a killer? Omggggg
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I don't think Demogorgon is OP
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I prefer original killers
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@SeducedByDaemonette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/678918#Comment_678918
Hoping that Spirit player is deaf/bad is the only thing you can do in red ranks . Stop this bs about how fair and 'counterable' she is . Rin is a braindead version of Nurse . Instead of hundreds hours of practice you need only like 10 to master her , and working headphones ofc .
Why do people think that skills in video games are so important
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@Star99er said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/682528#Comment_682528
Emily? But she’s so mean. Personally think Sam should be the Survivor. Her and Mike played the biggest roles throughout the story
I like her, she knows how to survive alone
Ashley is the worst in my opinion
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@HatCreature said:
Whenever someone brings up the wendigo people say that Hag is a wendigo because she ate her victims, or at least I think she did.
But anyway, a wendigo would be really cool in this game because wendigos can mimic people to lure them to their doom, just like when I fell for it in the mine and got that blonde killed by opening the hatch :(
With that in mind, the wendigo could have a power to imitate other Survivors. Gold Express has a Killer who imitates other Survivors and it looks like it works but of course would never work against a SWF group. I would love a wendigo, it's a cannibalistic tortured human with supernatural abilities and is perfect for DBD. Someone got lost in the woods on cursed land and ate their friends and then became a wendigo before being taken by the Entity.
YES! Imagine faking sounds of generators or survivors running
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I would love to see the wendigos and Emily, she's my favorite from Until Dawn <3
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There's a lot of unbalanced things in this game, people just want to use Spirit as a excuse because is very convencional but forgot what M1 killers suffer against high ranks. I honestly don't blame people for playing Spirit or Nurse
Prayer beads is bullshit but the killer itself? Nah
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Nurse is fine, we need her and SPirit to deal with bad map design and SWF
but Prayer Beads and Omegablink can go
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In my opinion Demogorgon can be a solid killer but not OP
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/673342#Comment_673342
You said
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/673262#Comment_673262
And clowns power also helps during chases, meaning, by your definition, clown isn't a m1 killer
Clown power is weak, doesn't help him in chases, or map control. That's why people call him M1 killer
Still don't know what's your point but anyway
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/673262#Comment_673262
So does clowns. Is he not a m1 killer?
I can't understand your point, what does Clown do? Bottles to slow survivors, ok. But survivors still can deal with his power and avoid it with no difficulties. Spirit and Nurse, you just teleport and hit them fast. They aren't killers running for hours in circles, unless the players are inexperienced
You can't really compare Clown, Pig, Plague, Legion, Trapper and Wraith at the level of Spirit, Billy, Nurse, Huntress or Hag. Huntress need to get her hatchets and Hag's traps can be countered but both powers still usefull during the chases, the rest is just lucky (Trapper traps) or circunstancial (Plague with corrupt purge)
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Nobody is gonna use Nurse or Spirit as a M1 killer because their power actually helps during the chase
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well, it's 4x1
At least in one moment someone will be chased, then the others will try clean the totem
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I can't see at least 1 reason why Demogorgon needs a nerf tbh
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Demogorgon is fine and actually pretty scary
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I'm using dark devotion, sloppy butcher, nurse's calling and corrupt intervetion in my Hag
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@Corrupted said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/659631#Comment_659631
Yeah they're gonna troll, bully and be toxic to killers if they are winning. But that's honestly the internet and how online games work at this point. It's just something you gotta get used to.
Exactly
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With Huntress, Pig and Plague, she is my favorite killer. I love how creative her power is and also her lore
She is such a fun killer
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I don't care about SWF, I just can't deal in how they can be evil with killers in general, bullying them or just making their experience frustrated using infinites. I would never indicate play as killer to new players
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Well, Tofu was saying that bamboozle and Spirit Fury are unfun perks, after that I can't take him serious anymore
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Thanks everyone for the kind words! We're free to love or hate things, I just found this hate very unnecessary when it turns in a personal thing. I don't take this game so seriously but never in my head I thought people hates me because I use THIS killer. I will use another killers besides Spirit to give survivors a good time, too but she is still my favorite and always will be. No matter what nerf she will receive in the future. Thanks everyone who read my topic!
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Hag is a good anjd very confident killer but people doesn't know how to play appropriately with her. Do you know Space Coconut? He's a great Hag main
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Always. Specially in the red rank
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I like her story, is kinda sad :c
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Spirit
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@Locker_Monster said:
This kind of IS how the Forums work:
Nurse will get looked at.
Survivors will decide if she's been 'nerfed enough'
If no:
Keep complaining
If yes:
Target Spirit next.
Spirit will get looked at.
Survivors will decide if the nerfs are enough, etc.
If yes: Target Billy next.
Exactly
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@Chaddad2169 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/633512#Comment_633512
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/633512#Comment_633512
Mate, every time I see you, it's cringe.
I'm not running one of the worst perks in the game in the case of facing ONE out of SIXTEEN killers.
You came here with 0 arguments, just being sassy with everyone lol
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@deadbyhitbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/633823#Comment_633823
Ah yes, because Spirit sure takes a lot of skill to use! Standing still is very difficult btw
Why do people always bring the difficult topic? When I play survivor idgaf If you are a skilled Huntress ir Billy btw
This game has diferent playstiles
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@[Deleted User] said:
I can't speak for everyone else, but I want Spirit changed because I find her absolutely boring to play against.
I don't care about the fact she's strong. You can still have a very strong killer that's fun to play against, I.E. Huntress, Hillbilly, etc.
She's fun in the same way that playing Chess without being able to see your opponent's board is fun, in that, you're expected to play a tactical game, and yet given zero information to make any tactical decisions.
She's got no audio cue when she's doing anything within her terror radius, she's got no visual cue she's doing anything. She doesn't even move grass when phasing. It just isn't fun. Anyone who's expecting me to HAVE to take a perk to even have a chance to get any information to make more than a wild guess and, I dunno, INTERACT with the killer, is being unrealistic and biased, imo.
Biased and unrealistic? What's the point of not using perks to gain advantage against the killers in general?
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@mistar_z said:
I believe its mainly because she doesn't really give the survivors any feedback to play against her abilities.
She can use scratchmarks, sounds, grass AND COLLISION. To hit a survivor. Meanwhile the survivors only really have the grass to know where she's at. Or that if she's even phasing especially around windows. Survivors can feel like they're cheated.
I've heard sentiment that playing against a nurse is actually more fair because you know when the Nurse is charging her blink, blinking and reblinking before she either hits you or goes into fatigue. So survivors can adjust their playstyles according against the nurse. With the spirit all they can do is pray that she is terrible if they did't bring Iron Will into the match.
While I am personally fine with her being as strong as she is right now because it helps break up the repetitive 1/3rd of the ranks being filled with nothing but Nurses and Hillbillies.
The only real nerf that I would ever give her is for her to have a particle effect like the nurse when she's phasing around, similar to the nurse where she has leaves following her. For the spirit she could have maybe glass shards instead that sparkle behind her.That way survivors don't lose before the match even starts, if they get maps without grass and it also means we don't need to nerf her stronger addons.
In my opinion Nurse isn't fair in general since she ignores all the survivors defenses. As example, Spirit can still got problems with vaults and pallets and lose the chase. Quick and Quiet/Lithe is a threat to Spirit on the hands of good survivors. Nurse just blink and get a free hit
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@[Deleted User] said:
There is ONE reason people hate the Spirit so much. All mindgames against her and jukes are purely based on LUCKY guesses. At least the Spirit can hear the direction of sounds while you run or are wounded - but survivors got thar ability taken away after PTB because her phasin is no longer directional. That removed all counterplay for survivors.
I agree but imagine Spirit as the old version from PTB, she would be a viable killer? I could say that she would still a good map pressure but not that good during chases, since you will know how to deal with her and tha she is a 110% killer with a useless power, loud and loopable.
Forgive me for being stupid or dumb but I can't really see how she would be useful without the element of imprevisibility. Prayer beads is a exception
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@Locker_Monster said:
Well, Mr Wayne...
Some people don't need reasons for their nerfs.
Some people just want to watch the balance burn.
Like I said I'm not spoking facts but only about MY opinion towards from what I see. And I would love to read other people's opinions. You should said why Spirit deserves a nerf instead of being ironic.
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@YaiPa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/633285#Comment_633285
That's the point, it's always a guessing game, you can't win or lose the "mind game" because there's no outplay, just wrong guess.
It depends in my opinion. If your power is still in recovery this strategy can't be so effective. At least to me, I use phase-walking all the game to patrol gens, it's not like that I will use a mind game to get down every survivor lol but I like your point about the grass sound
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@YaiPa said:
Imagine calling Spirit standing still mindgame. Just make grass moving when Spirit is phasing and it will be more fair.
Well, you don't know that she is pretending or she is behind you
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- Spirit - Tattered Tradition
- Plague - I forgot the name, it's a gold skin
- Freddy - P3 Skin
- Hag - Mud Medusa
- Huntress - Mother Bear
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Ghostface is fun to use but he is pathetic at the high ranks. I mean, good survivors won't let GF use his power properly
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I hate this word LOL
I've noticed that people think that "toxic" is a personality. You're not toxic just because you're pretending to be Noob3. You're just... unoriginal.
As a killer to me is kinda annoying when SWFs bring keys, 3 or 4 instaheals, stupid maps offering like Haddonfield or Ormond with high survivor advantage and then says GG IZI in the end of the match. But that's all, annoying. I wouldn't use another word. Toxic in my opinion is people using bugs (The Sprint Burst one) and offenses
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Because she was weak on the PTB and now she is fine and actually a viable killer
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And for those who think that Spirit is the most unfair killer in the game... oh well, just remember that the game isn't 1x1
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You can chase survivors for even less than 30 seconds and then 4 gens are done at the same time! It depends how killer you're playing, Spirit and Nurse are the only with Map control but survivors wants a counterplay for both.
I would say: prayer beads, omega blink, iri heads, moris, insta heals and keys should go.
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People never cared about Ash, it's only about the trash old MoM
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@PickCollins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/625382#Comment_625382
So what? You mess up against Spirit you get hit. You mess up against Billy and u get hooked. There's a massive difference.
Billy and Spirit have been locked in this "who is better" war ever since Spirit got buffed. She's easier to loop than Billy is, since you have promised ways to force her to drop her power, which turns her into a 110 killer. Like I said before she cannot brute Force through a chase. She needs her power. Conversely Billy's is a luxury. Now that wouldn't be an issue if Spirits power had 100% no counterplay. But considering something as simple as vaulting a remotely safe window destroys her phasing entirely, I'd say it's an issue. You have a far easier time against Spirit than you do against Billy. That's not saying Spirit is a bad killer. But that IS saying she's not superior to Billy.
SPIRIT easy to loop?
Yikes my dude
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Spirit can't be looped, Billy can. Spirit is unpredictable and Billy depends of survivors mistakes. Spirit by herself is a mind game, you can't tell where from she is coming no matter iron will or quick and quite you're using
By far the second best killer in the game
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Myers over Spirit? Pff