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@prettyf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/817829#Comment_817829
i def sure one thing
if umbra lived in korea or near the korea she must looking for double wind up or red hatchet every rounds,
and if you all killed without addons least half of survivors were lemmings you luckly found, if that basekit wasn't old nurse
So either way, killers without add-ons are destined to lose, is that what you mean? Even if the killer somehow wins, it's not because of killer have skill, but survivors are bad?
If that's the case, i really don't know what to say..
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@prettyf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/817731#Comment_817731
basekit was mega op, because no one play killer without addons and that base nurse were already better than other killers most powerful addons
nurse always used like people threw their conscience and seek all kill every rounds, doesn't mean its not op, it was broken as hell
base nurse is fine=same as i don't have skill
"no one play killer without add-ons"
you're gonna trigger a lot of people. i'm the one who plays without add-ons. in fact, many nurse player played without any add-ons.
While i agree she is op with add-ons, that doesn't mean her basekit is op. Majority of people are happy those add-ons are gone, but not with the basekit change
"base nurse is fine=same as i don't have skill"
tell that to nurse player
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try to play as her, and you will understand. play her at red rank if possible
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@prettyf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/817693#Comment_817693
i played nurse with range build or 2 yellow 3blink based
doesn't need any more blinks than 2 if range increased from basekit
never used any mori
that explains.. we're talking about base nurse with no add-ons here. Base nurse was fine, not op like people claims
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i guess devs will look into her in another 3 years...
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@prettyf said:
lots of comments here sounds like nurse got nerfed her blink range or lunge
but nope, those still there until you hit or miss someone
this character should not viable with average skilled players at firstplace because ignoring any rules of chase
this character overused, super overpowered for year and everyone used because of how easy to play like myself
now? its hard, and should be hard because still strong
or else this character having wrong designed like devs said
so should be rework like freddy if many people doesn't happy about it
super overpowered? easy to play? were you playing omega blink or 5 blink?
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@Laakeri said:
Nurses that used Ruin with her cry she is dead. People that were actually good with her still down people with ease, only takes couple more seconds now.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/504856278?t=00h08m53s
Vod from Zubats yesterdays stream. First Nurse game starts at 00h08m53s and people still drop like flies.
I already said she might still be best killer, but no one is playing her anymore. A killer that no one wants to play is a dead killer, regardless how strong she can be
Why would you want to torture yourself to play the killer that isn't fun at all? Why would you want to spend so much time just to master ONE unfun killer to reach her full potential?
Not everyone has 3k hours in-game
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it's funny to see people actually saying that 3 secs is not a big deal..
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@TooKoolFoU said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/816646#Comment_816646
I was a console nurse main. I’ve played her so much since her change. She’s just... she’s not as fun and it doesn’t feel so awarding anymore. It’s not that she isn’t a good killer still, but she doesn’t feel great. For me it’s just as much fun to play her as it is to camp someone in the basement. I’ve seen 2 other nurses since the update vise versa to how it was prior on console. We had many nurses. It’s a dying group of people on console sadly
it will be lowest kill rate + lowest pick rate for nurse for console
which means not strong + not fun
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@AngryFluffy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/817079#Comment_817079
I think the devs sometimes overdue it with the nerfs. The only thing that made nurse broken was omega blink. I think it would have been enough to remove only this and not to touch her base kit at all.
Same with Legion. The only problem was the moonwalk exploit. The only change that was needed was to stop the mending timer in the TR. Everything else was just too much imo.
IMO the perk STBFL itself (4 stacks above) is better than whole legion power.
You know what it means for a mediocre perk that can be better than the killer's main power? Legion players dump their whole power for a perk... This should never be a thing
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@theArashi said:
I wouldn't say she is dead but I when I play her I have to really focus and push myself.
I still can do well against the best survivors but what's the point? I can play my trapper and get similar result and if survivors want to finish the game in 5 minutes and escape with keys then I can't do anything about it.
She is the most taxing killer for me with not much payoff.
Which means high skill, mediocre reward. Good job devs
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@Drazen said:
yep since last week I saw maybe 1-2 nurses shes dead :(
"pretty good job so far" for devs, by making no one plays her anymore. They killed her...
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@prettyf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/817047#Comment_817047
most people in dbd not reached theoretical skill cap of nurse but they, no, we all killed most rounds and we all knew it
so nurse "main" players, they never had chance to test how decently skilled before this nerf
because it didn't matter before, personally i did all killed like 90% after 5h practice of nurse
now i don't think that easy but still thinking better than spirit but, much harder than spirit
this is better than billy vs spirit, because billy is harder than spirit but weaker than spirit
so i think nurse became fair right now
remember this question
what killer viable without addons?
huntress is weaker than billy, but have higher skill cap, so is it okay to nerf billy?
Doctor has higher skill cap than most M1 killer, and yet he is one of the weakest killer. So other killers should be nerf? (Devs are not saying they are going to buff doctor, they said they will make him more fun to play as or play against)
BTW how many nurse out there that can kill your team faster than spirit now? If like you said she is stronger than spirit, then why people abandon nurse to play spirit?
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@DocOnLoose said:
That's my stats of last 15 games as Legion at rank 1.
Games - 15
Wins - 12
Losses - 1
Draws - 2
4k - 9
2 pips - 5
K/R - 3.27
Just for reference.
how do you do it? What build do you use?
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i'm looking forward to seeing nurse pick rate from devs.. after they see the statistic, i wonder if they will say "pretty good job so far" again
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@Mochan said:
I have played against a decent amount of nurses since the patch.
Less than before, but she is not extinct. Yet.
That may change in a few more weeks as more people get tired of playing Nurse.
I hope so.. because i never seen her after update except matchmaking occasionally makes me play with rank 20 killers
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@AsePlayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/816652#Comment_816652
If you do it (as killer) and occasionally sprinkle in real games you're probably fine but legally I have to say I am joking and that I don't encourage it. /s
I know, but i still have 2 levels to go for new killer.. so i might be accidentally AFK
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@anarchy753 said:
Nothing else in the game is as blatantly strong as Nurse and Spirit. Nurse mains still had the option to abandon ship in protest over to the next most broken thing. I reckon once she gets nerfed we'll see a healthier spread overall, including both of them.
I'm admit i'm playing nurse just to suffer. I had no fun playing as her, but i still do it because I don't want the player base of nurse become zero..
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@anarchy753 said:
Nothing else in the game is as blatantly strong as Nurse and Spirit. Nurse mains still had the option to abandon ship in protest over to the next most broken thing. I reckon once she gets nerfed we'll see a healthier spread overall, including both of them.
So i guess majority of people want to play the most broken thing in game?
I wonder when those killers start to become survivor mains and play as full optimum SWF team with voice chat
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@AsePlayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/816644#Comment_816644
Probably, but I doubt anybody reports it. Free win and free bloodpoints. AFK reporting seems reserved for AFK survivors who throw the match.
That's why i never AFK as survivors (not saying that i AFK before as killer)
AFK as survivor is worse than dc rightaway IMO
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@shadowman0105 said:
What system do you play on
I'm on pc, i can imagine what consoles look like right now..
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@AsePlayer said:
I feel that if the Rift grind isn't changed in some significant way by the time Tome II rolls out, we're going to experience burnout throughout a big chunk of the player-base (aside from complete casuals).
Maybe it's just me, but I've personally stopped caring about actually surviving the game/killing the survivors and just making the match go on long enough to obtain the max xp for the match. I've also seen a lot of other players having the same mentality as well (Killers afking, survivors hiding instead of doing generators at red ranks, etc).
Anyone else feeling the burn?
Is AFK as killer bannable?
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That is another way of saying "majority of killers are not viable to versus competent survivors"
It is not that killers don't want to get good, but you can only be that good because of how the weaker killers work. They have limited tools that can only do so much.
For example like legion, you're basically a M1 killer, and his power has low skill cap too. There is nothing to get good at how to use his power, especially when all survivors are separate. You basically only get a free 1st hit, fatigue, and be M1 killer with no power at all
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@Karl_Childers said:
Odd post. You said yourself you are not a good Nurse, then switch your tune and start blaming killer nerfs. Why do you expect to crush survivors if you are not even good with a killer? This feels a lot like entitlement. A good nurse is still a good nurse after the changes. As you said, you are not a good nurse. That explains everything.
It's like i'm hindered in every way possible by playing her.. btw how many nurse have you seen after update? Let alone good nurse?
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@FancyMrB said:
+1 for Hag!
She is my go to for fun :)
You can play her many different ways so she never gets stale and she isn't add-on dependent so leveling her up isn't a pain (imo).
She also has one of the best Moris!
Is she eating the spleen? Or it's the liver?
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At least put some shards or blood point in there.. last few pages are literally empty
It's funny that the game asks me to claim reward after i unlock a tier, and then finds out there is nothing to claim at that slot LOL
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/814974#Comment_814974
Yeah, same. I only went against the new nurse just once. No one wants to play her anymore.
Nurse is truly dead if no one wants to play her, regardless how strong she can be..
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/814946#Comment_814946
Of course not every player thinks like that. Keep playing whatever or however you want.
Btw i don't see a single nurse when i'm playing as survivors for 20 - 30 matches after the update..
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/101916/survivors-is-this-what-you-want-every-game
Yes, you are overly dramatic. Some survivors will always dc, it doesn't matter which killer you play. They just have a losing=dc mentality.
They're not even losing lol. I'm the one who is losing.
I hate the fact that people call you a bad nurse for even trying to play as current nurse. It is not my fault that i can't chase and down you like with old nurse. At least encourage people that are willing to play the weaker nurse, or any other weaker killers like doctor or legion
I bet these kind of people will talk trash no matter what you do or what killer you play
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@maemalade said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/814902#Comment_814902
so you're being "punished" because you're not playing killer well..? if you can't work the nurses blinks to keep up with survivors why not play with a different killer?
I want to play every killers, as for reason, i don't know either
If every players think like this, then there will be no more nurse...
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@ColonGlock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/814771#Comment_814771
That applies to most of the killer cast. If survivors always make the right choices, most of them will escape.
This is the power of a good SWF, when all of them are making the right choices based on communication.
Then our nurse has loss the identity, which was able to down survivors by their own skill, not waiting for them to make mistakes. Now she is just like any other killers (maybe except spirit before nerf..)
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@Dreamnomad said:
You are being overly dramatic.
As i said in the thread, i may be. But it's still depressing that nurse is nerf to this..
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@NuclearBurrito said:
I don't get this post. How are you being punished exactly?
I'm not entirely sure how to say this
1. I'm forced to follow survivors with slower speed. If they managed to break line of sight, and you cannot clearly determine which way survivors run due to how scratch mark works, you lose even more distance by walking to wrong ways
2. I'm forced to play survivor's mindgames like "just running in straight line". If they are 30 - 40 meters away, especially when their "running in straight line mindgame" works, i have no way to close distance without wasting too much time
3. I'm forced to look at your power bar (because if your second blink is 99% charged, and i accidentally or press the m2 too soon, i have no way to cancel the blink, so i must use the 1.99 power bar for only 1 blink)
4. A miss prediction, which is relatively common due to cooldown that gives survivors extra time to stay out of line of sight, is severely punished
5. Not sure what causes the problem, but my weapon hits something in the air like hitting the wall, even when i can clearly get a hit
No other killer (maybe except legion) is punished this hard for just using your power, not to mention it's not fun to play as her now
But i'll still try to get good with her.. after all, i like how similar she is with nurse in silent hill^^
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i guess i'll get good.. i was called a bad killer for using no add-ons "OP" old nurse, and now i am called a bad nurse because i sucks.. it's depressing for playing killers
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@Mochan said:
From your story, I don't see how you were being punished?
Also why did you turn the post from some weird "I am being punished for being bad at the game" rant into a "killers are all getting nerfed" rant?
it's not like survivors outplayed me, but i'm handicapped and cannot do anything, such as running straight line and juke me once or twice to waste my time. One miss read from me (Which is common because so much time of survivors staying out of line of sight), and the chase is prolonged for 10 - 20 sec. You know how steep the price is to use blinks to chase survivors across the map?
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@Aura_babyy said:
Odd way to say that all killers will be nerfed.
While true, they should not have said that... you didn't seem to be playing that well to begin with. It doesn't seem to have been a fast game either, since the remaining survivors are near 30k score.The DCs came at endgame, and only one of them is inexplicable. Could have been him lagging out for all we know, it happens.
The only Scummy one was the one who intentionally DCd bc you waited out his DS. But I don't think this is a good jab at survivors for 1 intentional DC and some BM post-game. This game lacks so much info that this is more of a rant about killers being nerfed rather than this particular group of survivors are mean or DCd.
Also proxy camping hooks smh smh
i already blinked from basement to the door forced the survivors to go out. and the whispers and scratch marks show the last survivor was going back to the basement.. what can i do? sit there and watch them unhooking?
FYI, when i play killers, i don't camp or tunnel, even it's the correct decision. i don't even bring ruin because of how unfun it is for survivors
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when i play nurse, even when i got kills, i don't feel like it's because of my skill, it's because how big the mistakes survivors made.
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is hag good enough without add-ons?
I know other 2 are not, so i'm just asking for hag
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@[Deleted User] said:
I’d like to add that if you’re serious about investing time into Clown, I recommend playing as many matches as necessary where you DON’T CARE about losing, and practice getting direct hits with the bottles. Be right on top of survivors at first, it teaches you the first part:biding your time and choosing your moment. Then gradually try from further and further away until you feel very comfortable with the throw arc.
Don’t ever expect to reach a skill level of 100% accuracy, but it should be possible to get good enough to rely on it most of the time.
Why though?
IT’S SO GODAMN SATISFYING INTERRUPTING A VAULT, HEAL, REPAIR, UNHOOK, PALLET DROP, TOTEM CLEANSE, OR GATE OPENING FROM A DISTANCE.
Feels so good.
Then i guess you're good huntress too?
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/813983#Comment_813983
I don't get why people find this so hard to believe? A beginner nurse will usually be fighting against beginner survivors, unless it's a killer main with thousands of hours on other killers before trying nurse.
I got 4k on my first Nurse game. Rank 20. Blinked and walked around to kill 2 of them on hook, then got into a 3-gen defense against the last two. They eventually caved and died. These kinds of games are common at Rank 20 no matter what killer you're using.
Playing nurse as a beginner is hard, but playing survivor as a beginner is even harder.
Yes, playing as beginner as either killer or survivor is hard, but there is difference once you mastered them
Nurse is punished (nerfed) for being good at killing survivors. Now spirit is on the chopping block because "no counterplay" and "overperforming"
Survivors, on the other hand, don't get punished for being too efficient on gen or infinitely looping the killer because "it's killer's fault for not pressuring enough or too bad at chase"
Either way, killers are punished, and later it will be lobby stimulator
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/813962#Comment_813962
Yeah, she's awful on console. I don't care about 4k'ing as killer or anything; I just want to have fun. It was already a struggle to have fun with Nurse on console, but now, she's just miserable with that power bar. Who wants to stare at a power bar all match? I mess up my blinks so often and that thing makes the punishment ten times worse than it already was with just her fatigue.
Not fun at all. She's not worth touching.
You and i have the exact same opinion, although i play on pc. I hate staring at the power bar too
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@TragicSolitude said:
Even when I use headphones and no one's running Iron Will, I still have a ton of trouble tracking survivors by sound. If there's music, I definitely can't hear them over it.
I used to think it was my headphones, but I'm actually able to track directional sounds pretty well in Dying Light (I don't play many games on PS4 where tracking by sound is necessary; I think I'm able to track sound in Battlefront II, as well, though), so now I'm not sure what it is. But I often have no idea where a sound is originating from in Dead by Daylight. I can't figure out where that dull totem I just heard a survivor cleanse is. If I hear the sound of an injured survivor for a moment and then it goes quiet, I couldn't even give a basic direction of where they were. And I can't use my power mid-chase because if I lose visual of the survivor, I lose the survivor.
I have the same problem. It's almost as if all the sounds are omnidirection, and i can't determine the distance too
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Nurse was the 2nd hardest killer to learn and do well(1st is huntress), but she was nerfed because of that 1% of the player manage to do well with her with basekit.
So yeah, spirit will be nerfed too to "increase skill cap" because she is "overperforming", and later will be billy, freddy, hag... until every killers are nerf
Btw i think only prayer beads need change, others are fine
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Yeah, i encountered it too, i placed a snare before the window, and the survivors run through the snare and fast vault..
I think this is because of dedicated server
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no one wants to read these kinds of threads that are related to nurse.. all they wanted is nurse nerf and done. They don't want to acknowledge that she is not fun to play as anymore
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This will not happen anytime soon.. look how long they took to even buff freddy.. let alone buffing solos and buffing all weaker killers
Looks like SWF will still gonna dominate for a while.. majority of the killers are currently not capable of keeping up with 4 man optimal SWF.. killers are a joke and playtoy for them
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/809648#Comment_809648
I always use addons if I have em. Dont really see the point in NOT using SOMETHING, since im forced to buy more than I can ever use when lvling the characters.
Haha that's how i play killers, without add-ons, so i still stuck at rank 6 or 7
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@Awakey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/809656#Comment_809656
Not even stalk add-ons?
Strange. You do you.
I don't use add-ons on any killer (except freddy's pallets add-ons)
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@Spooky13 said:
S - Wraith, Ghostface, Demogorgon, Legion, Plague
All killers I currently main.
A - Huntress, Hillbilly, Pig
Killers I used to main, can still have some fun games as them occasionally
B - Trapper, Freddy, Myers
Killers I've considered getting good with but never have
C - Spirit, Bubba, Doctor
Played very rarely, usually just for dailies
D - Nurse, Clown, Hag
Killers I will get absolutely destroyed with and are only played for dailies
How's your experience with legion?
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Myers
Whisper, BBQ, Nurse calling, Monitor
No add-ons