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  • OK so you consider Feng light skin but Jake is not ? Jake is south korean.

  • Exposed with Hubris

  • Shhhh don’t tell them. As long as they keep complaining about Nurse, the killer with the same winrate of Wraith at top MMR, I can enjoy Sadako in peace.

  • Just bait it out.

  • Unfortunately, killers mains are a tiny minority here, you won’t get much answers.

    Most are survivors mains here to complain about meta killers, soloQ, and eruption.

  • As survivor, teamates thank me for going for the save in end game, especially when I am the only one trying.

    As killer, all I get are -rep, silence or insults.

  • @Shroompy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3322116#Comment_3322116

    I'm sorry, but the only thing you got right here is Nurse is "skill reliant"

    While yes she does take skill (and Survivors also need to learn how to verse her specifically) she doesn't take nearly as much as some like to make it out to be. She's actually pretty simple, and putting in a few hours to learn the timings and distances is all it takes

    Predicting movement is actually a pretty common misconception by some who haven't played her much, or is newer to the game. I would agree with you if she only had 1 blink, but since she has 2 its a different story. You use your first blink to every single opening or possible path that a Survivor can take, and then use your 2nd blink (if you have to) to react to where the Survivor went. The only time this isn't really applicable, are in maps with LOTS of LoS blockers. The ability to do so makes her the best chaser in the game, and without a doubt the best killer in the game since she can use this tool to traverse the map relatively quickly.

    It’s way more chill and brain dead to play any other killer. Forcing pallets drops, dead zone, and 3gen is way easier.

    Yes, nurse is more deadly the start of the game, but she cannot remove survivor defenses for good. So you have to stay focus at all times.

  • Sorry but she is very boring to play now. I am not going to waste any more hours into her when I can have the same outcome with Sadako.

  • Because they create their topic in a way that it’s not feedback only (but it is). For exemple :

    Instead of saying :

    Title 1 : "Nurse is still broken and need a nerf ASAP"

    Text 1 : "Please delet this killer, she is a relic of the past with broken addons, you can master her in like 2 hours, she is stupid, do something !!!!!""

    They will say :

    Title 2 : "Do you think the nurse nerf is enough ?"

    Text 2 : "I tried her in PTB and honestly she still feels very broken, maybe even stronger than before. I don’t have a lot of hours but I got only 4k…also her addons are still insanely good, I thought she was supposed to be nerfed ???

    What do you guys think ?"


    1 : General discussions : you ask the opinion of others, while still giving your opinion

    2 : Feedback : you give your opinion or ideas only


    You see that A LOT on topics about tunneling, slugging for 4k, complaining about nurse, blight, spirit, any regression perk.

  • Remove dead hard and coh and I will play him everyday.

  • He is afk farming shards.

  • -rep for your post, whining about things intended or non-issues like pretige level being displayed (I like it when I play survivor) or nodding on hook, who cares.

  • If you respect the survivor, you don't give hatch. They earn the hook.

  • My top 5 :

    5. Plague. Unfortunatly she has to get redpuke at a fountain, wish she could pop it anywhere on the map as long as it is available somewhere.

    4. Dredge. But his tp is kinda slow and easy to counter.

    3. Blight. Speed is always fun.

    2. Nurse. Teleporting is ton of fun and she is one of the most unique killer of DBD.

    1. Sadako. Again I love teleporting and mini mori is always satisfying. She is hard to play without good addons but you don't feel bad if you lose, she is a m1 killer after all.

  • @Deathstroke said:

    You can't use brand new part every game and don't play with 3 friends that is not real survivor experience. Play soloQ or at most duo it's just tunnel fest now and that how most experience survivor. I hope they add 2 killer mode some day so I can just play it. I like playing killer but I don't like to be alone agains't team of 4.

    You can use BNP consistently, the higher prestige you get the more iri you have in your bloodweb. Don't you know that ?

  • @DudelPuma said:

    "I lose because I'm HigH mMR and the genes are rushing" or "I can only play Nurse, Blight, Spirit because I'm HigH mMR" are just excuses and the stats clearly show that MMR is a hidden embem system, btw: earlier it said "the people in the red ranks gene rushing i can only play nurse" and everyone knows how bad the MM was xD

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u1bWJtT_nM

    finally understands it, if mmr really only worked a little bit, then all killers would lose most of the time except Nurse, Blight, Spirit and not Wesker, Dredge, Plague are the top tier killers in the kill rate xD and by the stats you can also see the relation to the general MMR a few percent are shifted which is also logical, I mean if instead of "high mmr" (top 5%) you take 0-20% 20-40% etc... of each mmr then you have in all different mmr classes, different percentage of killers (the kill rate)

    dbd has no MMR! you can take a banana and give it the shape of an apple and paint it but at the end of the day it will remain a banana, bhvr can say "MMR" as often as it does at the end of the day it's basic a bad matchmaking simple like the emblem system and NEVER a skill based matchmaking

    When killers are saying this, they mean "I can only play Nurse, Blight, or Spirit if I don't want to tunnel , proxycamp, use strong addons or slowdowns to win consistently". And that is true.

    Also, this streamer is known for doing clickbait content, for the majority of players (survivors). In the past, he also said Lightborn was broken because no counterplay. He will say anything to get views.

    I stop listening when he talked about "the killer community". Excuse-me but what community ? The 1/5 players of the small DBD playerbase ? Lmao, what a joke.

  • As predicted, as long as my girl can blink over pallets, survivors won’t be happy.

  • It’s OK, she will fit in the kick meta. She is far from dead.

  • @hiken said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3308469#Comment_3308469

    try breaking a 3 gen with a solo group agaisnt a decent killer, good luck, your arguments are fantasy not the reality, there is a difference.

    This game will never be balanced around solo, otherwise SWF would be uber broken. The killer can't choose if survivors are going to be solo or SWF, but survivors can choose how they want to play. As long as survivor can play SWF, the game should be balanced around SWF.

  • Old meta :

    "Guys don't use Ruin + Undying, it's boosting you. Also don't use noed, or PR with DMS, same thing".

    Current meta :

    "Guys don't use Eruption + CoB it's boosting you.."

    Next meta :

    "Guys don't use..."

    Anyways. Play the meta if you want to. And if you get skilled survivors, GOOD, YOU WILL IMPROVE.

  • @Saiph said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3307407#Comment_3307407

    You're missing the point with this killer's profile. It is literally 1 click to delete a comment on your profile, and one click to make it private. This killer is not getting flamed for his gameplay, he is ACTIVELY TRYING to get -reps. If you have time, check hookcamperlol on twitch (not this killer but similar and will give you a good idea).

    I used to play nurse and got way worse than that because I dared to play double range and slowdowns.

    Check this : https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/305541/survivor-insults-and-harassment-toward-killer-should-be-banned/p1


    I had to STOP playing my favorite killer because of the amount of insults, and threats I receveid. Survivors adding me friend to wish cancer and aids to my whole family. It’s a game.

  • @Saiph said:

    Dead By Daylight in late 2022 is a totally different game now

    Only sweats are playing the game now. There's no business playing unless you're training to play comp. Casual players have lost interest as they were tired of playing against those same exact sweats who are still playing now, this is very easily seen by looking at player charts.

    https://i.ibb.co/zN8QYGj/Untitled.png

    We've lost -40% of the playerbase compared to June. People are still interested in this game, they try to go back to it during events, but they stop after a few weeks, because it just feels so horrible now unless you already have invested 2000+ hours in it.

    This game is way too hard and obnoxious for casual players. People come here expecting a survival horror game watching exciting video with hiding elements and intense chases with the killer, instead, they get matched against players with 6000 hours who down them in 5 sec then camp them on hook. Then in post-game screen they realize their opponent has perks that are 10x better than theirs and also that they have no chance to ever access these perks, unless they grind the game for 100+ hours

    I've been trying to get my friends to play this game and I felt literally embarrassed by how bad it was. In one particular game we faced a facecamping + tunneling spirit with only pink addons who slugged my friend 8 TIMES IN A ROW while she was trying like never to find me and get her 4k, look at the killer's profile:

    https://i.ibb.co/1TTqQgx/image.png

    That's 71 pages of only -rep. Please explain me BHVR, who wants to play against someone who has a profile like that. They're not even deleting the -rep, they are PROUD of it, and they played the game for 110 hours in past 2 weeks so that's 8 hours/day just with the intent of ruining other people's games. We got matched against many killers like this one and some of them were streaming.

    So to conclude, the game has not changed much, but the playerbase has. If you played it in mid 2022 then you were playing against people like you who want to play DBD like it is a GAME, but now you are playing against people who do it like it is a JOB.

    It's cringe the amount of survivors who trashtalk on someone else profil. Get a life, please.

    @Heytherebigguy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3307403#Comment_3307403

    You get what you're cooking, if he's playing in an annoying way to ruin someones day he deserves to be known as such.

    Your bully attitude has no place in DBD, get good instead of trashtalking, sending death threats and insults to the killer please. I know it's shocking but players chosing the killer role are human beings too.

  • DS is still strong, especially with OTR record now.

  • @AssortedSorting said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3303716#Comment_3303716

    This thread isn’t saying that proxy/tunnel shouldn’t be a strategy (and a survivor being out of place is different than proxy until hook notification and chasing them), but that if you rely on it too much (to the point of starting off with it every match) you’re going to be inappropriately matched up with loopers at a higher skill level. And your games are gonna suck hard and it’ll feel like the survivors are OP when in reality it’s that you’re lacking in other areas of gameplay.

    So what ? That’s a good thing anyways. It’s good for a smart killer to be matched against good survivors. This way he can improve and learn how to beat them. It’s not like mindgames are hard to learn either.

  • @C3Tooth said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3303674#Comment_3303674

    Chill survivors would not matched against you anyway, dont care about them.

    Though dont complain when you matched against the sweat.

    I am not complaing when survivors are good. I mostly play survivor now anyways. Good for them. Just tired of the double standard.

    • Good survivor = skill, fun, fair
    • Good killer = ruining the game, carried by X perk, Y addon, Z strat.

    Tunneling and proxycamp are fine. When you don’t hide from the killer and make yourself an easy target because you can’t loop, that’s not the killer playing dirty, it’s you being bad at the game. Or your teamates because they don’t take hits for you.

    Back in the days, when rank matchmaking was still a thing, a friend of mine got matched against Otz. He played very "fair", yet my friend called him a dog tunneler in the end game chat, only to realized it was Otz streaming lmao. You guys have to realize tunneling, camping and boring / zzz are copium words for survivors.

  • Blablabla. Watch any tournament et find me one killer who is not tunneling or proxycamping at some point (and is not nurse or blight).

    "But you don’t have to sweat !! Play chill"

    Don’t force people to play the way you want. The survivor rulebook is getting boring.

    These strats are only a problem for some survivors, the ones who are bad, can’t loop and take the L.

  • Head on is fun and easy to bait.

  • Maybe do video tapes instead of gen rushing, and turn off TVs.

    Also use CoH and Exponential, 2 meta boons.

  • Play nurse.

  • @Krazzik said:

    To be fair if they made gens take longer for survivors to do, killers would still camp and tunnel just as much as they do now, it'd just be even harder to punish it.

    There is nothing to "punish", it’s a game.

  • Nurse winrate is fine, no point in wasting development time to "fix" her.

  • @proxy_taxfraud said:

    Seems like a skill issue.

    Maybe you're boosted because of tryharding.

    If chases aren't fun for you then maybe play survivor. Or maybe try a different game for some time, it will do you good.

    "Maybe you're boosted because of tryharding."

    OP said he is trying to secure 1 kill each match. This doesn’t sound like tryharding.

    To OP : try to focus more on gens (where survivors are) and less on pallets (at least not on pallets where there are no gens). If you can, protect a 4gens / 3gens (with deadlock, also corrupt if you need) and go for the unhooker.

  • Myers is fun, please leave this killer alone. Also leave any killer you find "boring" alone, don’t play them and let others DBD players have fun with them.

  • She has the same WR as Wraith at high MMR and survivors are still obsessed over her lmao.

  • Don’t give up ! It’s just a matter of time and you will be used to it.

  • @gnehehe said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3298675#Comment_3298675

    After reading your comment, I hope you have the dignity to never use the 25s stun-like-so-much-fun-for-your-opponent perk ... a.k.a. Eruption

    I am a survivor main. I stopped playing killer since last balance patch.

  • Cheaters, toxicity (insulte, death threats), the survivor rulebook, survivors with bad ping teleporting.

  • @Aven_Fallen said:

    The thing is, OTR is the best tool against tunneling, but it is not really good. All Anti-Tunnel measures which are somewhat meaningful (this does not include DS, this is a joke at this point) resolve around Endurance. And one Hit after the Unhook and ALL of them are gone - the Basekit-Endurance, potential BT, potential DH, potential OTR. So there need more measures which are Anti-Tunnel, but dont use Endurance.

    Reverting the DS-Stun to 5 seconds should be a minimum that should happen. And in fact, it should have increased its Anti-Tunnel capacity once they nerfed it that it cannot be used in Endgame (which was totally fine). Because a DS which deactivates on anything AND is deactivated in Endgame AND is at 5 seconds was nothing anyone complained about. But, as we know, to "change" the Meta, some Perks just got nerfed into Oblivion to make them unattractive to use. DS is one of them.

    In the end, current DS grants the Survivor around 7 meters of distance. The Stun is 3 seconds, 1,3 seconds are used for the animation, so 1,7 seconds can be used for distance, which results in around 7 meters. This is barely anything. If I see DS used in games (by other Survivors or against me), the Killer really catches up way too quickly.

    IMO DS can be changed to let the Stun Time be depending on the number of Gens left. Number of Gens x 2 seconds = Stun Time. So:

    • 5 Gens left --> 10 Second Stun
    • 4 Gens left --> 8 Second Stun
    • 3 Gens left --> 6 Second Stun
    • 2 Gens left --> 4 Second Stun
    • 1 Gen left --> 2 second Stun
    • 0 Gens left --> deactivated

    This would punish a Killer very heavily who wants to tunnel right at the start to turn the game into an easy 3v1 which the Survivor cannot win anymore. But once the Killer needs a Survivor out of the game, because they lost some Gens, DS is not that useful anymore. E.g. at 4 seconds it would be barely stronger than now and with 2 seconds, it would basically be useless.

    This would also be in line with what Killers say when they say they HAVE to tunnel. They will be able to do so, when the game gets close for them. But if they try it earlier, there is a harsh penalty for it. (And no Killer HAS to tunnel at 5 Gens and if they get a 10 second Stun because of this, this is completely their own fault)

    But yeah, the bare minimum would be to buff DS back to 5 seconds. But, this will not happen, because then people would play DS and the Devs did not "change" the Meta.

    10s stun LMAOOOOOOO. So much fun. Thank you for the good laugh.

  • IW was OP. It is still very good, as well as DS. Please adapt.

  • That would be fun.

    As well as Devour basekit (with restrictions, like hook different survivors).

  • @Pulsar said:

    When you ban SWF, we won't have a game to play.

    I thought you were a SoloQ survivor, considering how much you complain about it

  • @Cybil said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3297529#Comment_3297529

    Those stats are disingenuous. Matches with disconnects are not taken into account and we all know that Nurse is the DC queen.

    Pretty sure this is a troll, but I thought I'd inform anyone who doesn't know.

    Sure, the official stats given by DBD devs are false. And I am the troll lmao.


    "Nurse is OP !!! She is getting 4k every games !"

    No she is not, look at these stats

    "It’s because bad nurse are taken into account in the stats, she is a free killer, high MMR is unplayable"

    No it’s not true, we have stats for high MMR as well. Her killrate is similar to every other killers…

    "Stats are lying, DC are not taken into account !!"

    So ? It’s the same for every other killer.

  • Nobody is holding the game hostage here. The survivor can leave at any time, and the killer and grab the survivor too. They both have a choice.

  • @maximo99ac said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3297529#Comment_3297529

    that a big part of the community considers nurse unfun to play againts is a problem

    Not a big part. The same survivors spamming these forums over and over. Also, you considering something "unfun" doesn't mean it should be removed.

    Are flashlights fun for the killer to not see anything ? No. Doesn't mean they should be removed.

  • @maximo99ac said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3296451#Comment_3296451

    so people are complaining about a problem that hasnt been fixed in years ? what a surprise and spoiler people will continue complaining until nurse is fixed

    There is no problem. We have stats. Even at high MMR, Nurse winrate is close to Wraith. Yes, I said Wraith so wake up, most players don't know how to play or counter her.

  • @Grandpa_Crack_Pipe said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3297450#Comment_3297450

    I am also liable to do the same thing to a 4 game offering BNP killsquad if that makes you feel any better.

    I hope you're just as accepting of them wanting to have fun on a good map, by the way.

    Yes I dont’ see any issue with that I do it all the time. I love genrush builds.

  • @Grandpa_Crack_Pipe said:

    You're entitled to play as seriously as you want and do whatever you feel is necessary to win.

    However, if you bring a full meta range/recharge Midwich Nurse and with everyone but one on the ground at 5 gens and you absolutely refuse to hook until you have everybody, i'm liable to point and laugh about how seriously you're taking this silly game.

    Or maybe the nurse wanted to have fun on a good map ?

    Players can pick whatever killers / addons / perks they want.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Maps. Not necessarily from a balance sense, but more from a power interaction sense. The random map selection turns me off from playing killer anymore. I only have so much time to play. There's no sense in me wasting it on Nurse+Lerys/RPD, Billy+indoor map, Huntress+indoor map, etc. So many maps are awful on certain killers and I would never play X killer on X map. I shouldn't have to play a map offering to work around it.

    I mean, honestly, the mere chance of ever getting RPD on any killer makes me not want to play.

    On Sadako RPD is fun.

  • @StarLost said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/358313/in-an-ideal-world-where-everything-else-is-balanced-nurse

    She honestly needs a top down, complete rework. She just doesn't work in DbD, as she essentially unplays the game.

    The problem is that her gross kill rates are extremely low, which makes the devs unwilling to change her.

    I actually enjoy playing against Nurse on most maps, but I still don't think she's good for the game as is.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3296208#Comment_3296208

    Nurse main spotted. XD

    No, but seriously, this thread was actually pretty constructive, from a generally constructive poster. Why the needless hostility?

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3296451#Comment_3296451

    Don't be a forum cop.

    It's an issue that people want to discuss. If you don't want to engage with the discussion, don't. If you think the threads are violating forum rules - feel free to report it.

    Or have I been massively baited again?

    See ya in the next nurse thread.

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