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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752724#Comment_1752724
I'm not exaggerating.
On Series X for DBD I MUST enable crossplay to play with other Xbox players, or to play the game at all. No other game requires me to enable crossplay to play with Xbox players.
And regarding the que times, YES sometimes it is impossible to find a game if you turn off crossplay. I've literally waited in lobbies for upwards of 10 minutes before I find a game. Sometimes my friends and I have waited 20 minutes and never found a game if it was like early on a Monday or something. There are plenty of people playing the game on Xbox, but the game doesn't match me with them because we have different crossplay options.
Don't sit there and tell me I'm exaggerating when you don't even know what's going on.
you are exaggerating.
this is a Videogame. One that you can play perfectly fine with crossplay on. There is no downside to this (you can’t name one real downside). If crossplay wasn’t a thing BHVR would have needed to implement a new crossplay feature for Series X to play with Xbox one. Then you couldn’t play this game at all right now. But you can, but currently you have to turn crossplay on because the playerbase is too small.
you are saying you would get an aneurysm. Something people are suffering from in real life and even dying. But you use it because you don’t like to hear that you make unreasonable demands for a videogame. And you are saying you are not exaggerating.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752665#Comment_1752665
If my only options are turn on crossplay or don't play, that's pretty forced dude. And it is entirely their fault for implementing an back ass wards crossplay. No other game does it this way. No other game has it on by default.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752659#Comment_1752659
Right except DBD can't do that for some reason. All I am asking for is that I can turn off crossplay and still play with Xbox players LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME OUT THERE.
I'm about to have an aneurysm.
You are exaggerating.
and again, you don’t like the way crossplay is implemented. That’s a fair and reasonable complaint. BUT there is still no force that makes you play with crossplay on.
crossplay is pretty much spot on implemented by BHVR for everyone but a few that only want to play with their own platform. There is no reason BHVR should change it. You said it yourself, you can’t give a reason for it. Many people are happy the way it is.
play every other game that implement is in another way if that makes you happy. No one is forcing you to play DbD. But be assured, many games have it enabled by default. Many games don’t even give an option to turn it off.
and you need to seriously calm down, stop the capslock and accept some of the facts. It really is okay to not like the implementation, but that’s a very subjective and unreasonable view of yours. I got some of those kind for this game as well. But I am not crying that I am forced to play with it or getting punished
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752642#Comment_1752642
Not being able to play unless you enable an option feature isn't a functional issue? Are you kidding me here?
no it is Not. There is no force involved, just unfortunate circumstances that let you not play the game, which is not the fault of BHVR.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752637#Comment_1752637
If it was then I would need to enable crossplay in every other game to play with my friends on Xbox.
I do not. Therefore Xbox One and Series X are actually the same platform. Next gen in this case merely means a more powerful console. It does NOT me a completely separate platform that is incompatible with last gen consoles.
I have told you many times as have others.
those games have implemented crossplay between different Xbox platforms. They are ‚forcing‘ everyone to use this crossplay feature, there is no option to turn it off and they are not informing the playerbase about crossplay.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752624#Comment_1752624
IT IS NOT. This issue only exists in DBD. I don't have to enable crossplay in other games to play with Xbox players.
This thread is getting ridiculous. It's almost like none of you actually care to understand my point and just want to argue.
It is. Everyone is saying so. Even the creator of the platform and the creator of the game.
other games use another system to enable crossplay between Xbox gens.
you are the one not accepting this fact.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752595#Comment_1752595
LOL who is imposing anything? If you want it on or off I don't care. I just don't want to be punished for turning it off, both because I chose to get a Series X (I am still on Xbox, crossplay shouldn't be required) AND because now my que times are LONGER than before crossplay was even added. THOSE ARE MY COMPLAINTS, I AM BEING FORCED TO ENABLED AN OPTIONAL FEATURE OF CROSSPLAY.
Dear lord this place is awful. Why I don't post much, because every time I do people do exactly what is being done in this thread. Now a mod came in and is more or less telling me oh well deal with it, you have to turn on crossplay to play on Xbox. Gee thanks, but right I'm the bully here.
You have to accept the fact that XBox Series X is a new gen console and not just another iteration of the Xbox One.
and use at least other words than ‚punished‘ and ‚forced‘, those do not fot in here at all.
you are not happy with the system, which is okay. But be more rational about it.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752336#Comment_1752336
IT IS NOT.
If it were then I wouldn't be able to play with anyone on any game unless crossplay exists and I turn it on.
So far the only game where this is a thing is DBD. In games where crossplay doesn't even exist I can play with friends.
For those games crossplay does exist but it only exists for specific platforms and there is no option to turn it on or off.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752308#Comment_1752308
"you are asking for people that don’t want a smaller playerbase to suffer longer queue times just because of selfish reasons."
LOL no. I'm saying that you shouldn't be separated from your own platform if they select a different option than you. If the system prioritized your own platform and then used crossplay to speed up the process only it would be fine and no one would have a problem with that because your que time wouldn't be worse than if no option existed. It would stay the same for everyone that has it off, and then get faster if you turn it on.
Right now it is SLOWER than normal if you turn it off, and is only normal speed if you turn you on.
The fact you guys insist I play with crossplay and then say I'm wrong for wanting what SHOULD be the normal non-crossplay experience that existed before crossplay became a thing is mind boggling.
It shouldn’t be the normal experience to have non-crossplay. You are in the Great minority to think it should. There are way more benefits for it to have crossplay and the feature was implemented fairly well.
you can’t even give a logical reason why it should be normal to have it off. I am not asking for a reason, we all know you don’t have one. But there still are good reasons to have this feature.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752307#Comment_1752307
Crossplay doesn't exist on Borderlands. You can't play with a PC player from Xbox.
This is a DBD issue not a Series X issue. Series X is still the same Xbox platform as Xbox One. My console is more powerful, that's it.
XBox series X is another platform though. It needs a crossplay feature to play with other XBox platforms
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752273#Comment_1752273
Yes, consequence of not using an OPTIONAL feature. Therefore it is punishment.
If turning it off didn't turn que times to complete ######### I wouldn't be complaining. But as it stands, it removes a chunk of players from the pool OF THEIR OWN PLATFORM and thus forces you to turn on crossplay.
Why should there be a consequence of having WORSE THAN BEFORE que times for an OPTIONAL feature? That's like saying because you opted out of the upgraded stereo system that your car should be 80% less fuel efficient than what it normally would have been if the stereo didn't exist.
It is NOT an optional feature to turn crossplay on. You are trying to use an optional feature that results in a smaller more selective playerbase. It’s only logical to have longer queue times this way.
you are asking for people that don’t want a smaller playerbase to suffer longer queue times just because of selfish reasons.
it is not a penalty, BHVR is not at fault, they can’t and shouldn’t dictate other players to play with a smaller playerbase of only selective platforms just because you say so. A great majority of those players WANT to play with crossplay on, even if you can’t understand it.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752228#Comment_1752228
"you are not being punished for deciding to not play in cross play. however you must accept what happens when you take that option."
That's literally what a punishment is. I don't do the thing my experience gets WORSE than it would if the thing didn't exist.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1752209#Comment_1752209
No I'm talking about the general Xbox pool. Right now, if I turn off crossplay I can only play with other Series X players. In order to play with other Xbox players I have to turn it on. JUST to play on Xbox I have to have it on. But that's an issue specific to Series X, my complaint there is that the game shouldn't have even launched in this state and I shouldn't be forced into crossplay to play with Xbox players. This isn't a thing in any other game I play.
But besides the Series X, my other complaint is that the Xbox pool is gutted because players with crossplay on and crossplay off don't get matched together. If the feature didn't exist we would all be able to play together. If it existed as I suggest, where it still matches you to your own platform regardless of which option you choose and in fact prioritizes matching you on that platform and only uses crossplay to speed up the que times, then I wouldn't have an issue because I'm not being punished with longer than normal wait times by having it off.
That’s not a punishment. That is a consequence that you are well aware off. It’s not something someone decided to punish you for, BHVR did not implement a feature to have longer queues for everyone with crossplay off.
you are literally asking for all people on XBox who decided to have crossplay turned on for various reasons to suffer longer queues just because you as a single individual want it that way. That is super unreasonable.
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@Freki said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751788#Comment_1751788
I agree, but they want to have their cake and eat it too. I will say this: Many of the bugs reported in game are not true bugs but network issues, latency and people's minds playing tricks on them. I have never once had the silent slug issue, I have had very few game crashes and all of those can be tied to windows having issues. many people try to modify their game but don't want to admit it, many will try to gain every edge possible on others by using third party programs and these programs are the ones that introduces true instability to the game. But they have to complain all the same. Are there bugs? am I just lucky? yea I am. but they haven't found the silent slug bug in how many months? this is probably the case with incorrect audio driver calls on systems that can barely run the game.
Sadly, I can only give you one upvote, you deserve more
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@Elena said:
Apparently it's no longer a set so you're all good
apparently that is exactly the problem some people have now.. which is totally weird..
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@DaFireSquirtle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751057#Comment_1751057
Doesn't matter does it? There are people who will buy up every new skin they can, as long as they make money they'll keep pushing out game breaking bug filled patches one after the other. Dbd is becoming a really scummy game. I don't buy the skins but one person won't make them give us quality gameplay over money.
If everyone who is complaining on this forum would stop supporting the game it would make a difference.
but apparently they all just wanna complain but like the game well enough to continue.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751288#Comment_1751288
The playerbase wouldn't be missing if BHVR didn't separate them from the other players on Xbox. If all crossplay did was fill in spots and speed up matchmaking when you need it I'd be fine, but as it stands you are just in a completely different pool.
So yes, BHVR is literally forcing me into crossplay by making it so I can't play with other people on my platform instead of doing what other game's do and prioritize your platform first, then fill in the rest with crossplayers.
But imagine this: other Xbox players turn off crossplay because they don’t want to play against platforms with better performance (eg PC).
and i am making a huge assumption now and may be wrong but: next gen Xbox also has better performance for this game. So there are many Xbox players you wanna screw over their optional feature just because... and there we are. No reason. Just because of you. Nothing else.
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I guess he will eventually get something.
i mean, even Adam got some cosmetics after all this time. Not many though..
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751273#Comment_1751273
An optional feature I can't use.
Therefore I am forced into crossplay.
It’s not BHVR that forces you but the (missing) playerbase. You can’t really talk about force here.
the feature is there and you can use it. And all other platforms show that it is functioning.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751264#Comment_1751264
"At this point, being able to turn crossplay off is the optional feature, not the other way around."
LOL so then you admit I am forced to play crossplay. Bravo.
How are you coming to that conclusion?
i am saying that crossplay turned on is the default mechanic and being able to turn it off is an optional feature.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751224#Comment_1751224
"I want crossplay off"
Except that's not my complaint.
My COMPLAINT is that I have to turn on crossplay to play on the Xbox Series X. Even with other Xbox players.
My COMPLAINT is that this game was completely unplayable for 4 days after the Xbox Series X came out. This is like major #########, how this even got to release is unacceptable.
My COMPLAINT is that because matchmaking doesn't allow Xbox players with crossplay on to play with Xbox players that have crossplay off, and this seriously hurt matchmaking times on Xbox. I shouldn't be punished for not using an optional feature.
Why I want it off has NOTHING to do with my complaints. I want it off, it doesn't matter why, but I can't turn it off without being punished somehow.
At this point, being able to turn crossplay off is the optional feature, not the other way around.
the 4 day not able to play thing is another matter, THAT IS a valid complaint.
you want it off, everyone here knows that. You don’t wanna tell why. Okay, whatever.
you won’t get what you want. And BHVR is not at fault here. Why should they rework their whole crossplay mechanic for one single person? This does not make sense at all.
people were asking for your reasons because they wanted to understand you problem, not to bully or shame you. But you are coming off rather aggressive
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@NomiNomad said:
Do people legitimately hate specific suvivors? I've always really seen them as skins, and I've had pretty much either Survivor in this game be a toxic little ######### or wholesome and funny.
Except Jeff. Jeff is always a good boi
Most people don’t care for survivors/skins.
but there are some players out there hating on specific survivors or cosmetics for various reasons; including Laurie (probably bc DC/OoO association), Steve (dont know why), P3 Claudette (Blendette), Claudette in general (racist), Dwelf
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751188#Comment_1751188
Dude just read this thread. Almost every new post is "why don't you want crossplay?" No one cares about my actual complaint. Like 2 people said something like "gee I'm sorry this is happening to you they should fix it/improve crossplay".
But yea you guys are totally not bullying or shaming me for wanting to play how I want. Nope not at all. Oh and you're also not bullying me to tell you why too, again irrelevant to the conversation.
Your actual complaint is unreasonable though. „I want crossplay off“ is not a complaint. You are demanding something, something you do not need to play the game.
the solution to your problem is super simple. Play with crossplay turned on until there is a bigger player base on your platform with crossplay turned off to find matches. It is that simple. Really. That Ash you complained about earlier may have been an Xbox player for all we know after all.
there is literally no problem, crossplay makes sure the playerbase is big enough even for new consoles to find matches fast.
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try explaining your issue here and give as much info as you can:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/categories/technical-issues
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You are using the words ‚force‘, ‚shame‘ and ‚bully‘ but I don’t think you know what those actually mean..
and saying you would get banned for stating your true reasons doesn’t help your case either.
the Crossplay feature works as intended and you seem to be the only one to want it changed, and you get aggressive when people ask for the reason.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751123#Comment_1751123
Did I ever say they play worse than me or that I'm a better player?
No I didn't. You assumed and then shamed/bullied me for wanting to play the game how I want.
You didn’t use the words ‚better‘ or ‚worse‘ but you pretty much said that. Yes.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751092#Comment_1751092
Not every other game.
Once in 50 games maybe at red ranks. People don't play like this on Xbox at high ranks.
Yeah.. sure.
just a troll post, I understand now.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751069#Comment_1751069
Yes, exactly. But as a Series X player I'm forced to play with potatoes and trolls instead.
Literally just had a game where an Ash offered Lery's then decided to try and meme with the killer by looping around hooks. People just don't do that ######### on Xbox. He was crossplay. I don't want to play with him at all.
You really think this is a crossplay issue and that there can never be an Xbox player that plays like that?
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Am I the only one not understanding what the problem of crossplay is for Xbox players? I know of framerate/general performance issues for consoles compared to PC but OP doesn’t want to play against PS as well..
i mean, I would understand if Switch players complained..
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@DaFireSquirtle said:
Is anybody surprised? The game is teaming with bugs and performance issues. Among other things. But they can be counted on in making sure they get their money from our pockets. Don't give me the different teams do different things bs. They earn so much money each year yet still can't fix their game. This shows they don't care unless it's money involved.
Then don’t give them any money.
seems like there are people actually enjoying the game even with the flaws so they spend their money on it.
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Did they increase the wait time? I thought for first DC it was 5 min not 15..
also if you think PC players are too OP, you have to turn Crossplay off, then you won’t feel forced to dc because you can’t get matched against any PC players.
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Not gonna happen because of the license owner/director of the movies.
the devs looked into it and were interested in the license but they don’t want to be associated with such a human being
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Most people will just tell you ez it is to play survivor and pip..
i think dull totems don’t do anything for emblems, but hex ones do.
running the killer will give you lightkeeper emblem points as well as the chasing one. but I think (not sure) every hit you take is registered as a ‚lost chase‘...
only doing gens is def not the right way and escaping is not highest priority if you wanna pip.
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They can’t get licensed easily? Many people doubted they would get Silent Hill license but here we are.
but licensed from Steven King are particularly difficult to get for video games (not only for BHVR)
aaaand no Danny as surv, BHVR stated they won’t include children.
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That’s... reasonable to ask. Also Hags traps?
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no answer here?
hm, so I’m the very beginning all friends were bugged, but the same-platform friends thing is definitely fixed.
i think the cross platform friends are still bugged but I am not sure.
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I didn’t even say I would agree tunneling and camping are healthy for the game or should stay..
but as you said yourself: it’s a free country, the devs can create the game they want.
and if you want to actually reach them, don’t do so in the ‚ask the community‘-section of the Forum.
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again: post in feedback and suggestions then.
but no? It is definitely not the devs fault that you lost your friends.
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You can’t even use punctuation or post in the right forum section. Those are suggestions and feedback and not questions for the community. So don’t be so hard on the devs, game developing is a lot harder than those things.
camping and tunneling are valid strategy’s according to the devs, so they don’t even want to ‚fix‘ it. And they even tried some time ago a possible solution against camping, but survivors could abuse that.
genrush is something that doesn’t even really exist. It’s the killers job to prevent gen progression, not the devs.
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I don’t think forcing yourself to play the game will make you enjoy it more..
play the game when you actually feel like it, learn all killers a bit if you have fun doing it and then decide on mood/daily’s which one to pick. That’s what I am doing, plus achievement hunting when I feel like it.
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Well. It will take some time for the lawsuit to be over. And then the negotiations have to get started and finished before they can think about a release day..
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they did an awesome job on gen repair, opening chests, and kicking Victor.
i hope we will see cool reworks for Healing and cleansing as well, but cleansing is already okay-ish..
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To all people complaining: just don’t buy the Sets. If it wasn’t a set, we wouldn’t have seen it at all. There would not be more mix and match cosmetics if you delete the sets.
and if others like the sets, then let them like them, it’s none of your business what they spend their money or shards on.
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It’s a cosmetic for a licensed character. There are probably licensing reasons for it to be a set..
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There is a bug with the POV of Blight that the Devs acknowledged in the last Q&A. They will fix it, but it takes some time because they need to fix every animation of blight for the right POV.
with Victor I guess a lower POV would have made him nearly unplayable? But that’s just my guess..
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Wouldn’t Ace have fitted better, since he is the ‚lucky‘ one?
not against this idea, but I kinda wanna see the others getting killed too..
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@sudintlink said:
It's working up to that one island map. Read the lore a lot of the new characters have the island in mentioned in their lore but I forgot the name of it
It’s Dyer Island and I hope we will see it eventually!
Do we know where this island is supposed to be in the world? Would be cool to get a tropical island with a beach..
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@JustChangeIt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1738596#Comment_1738596
Had the same problem. Had do buy a new controller. :/
I already tried with 2 Switch pro controllers and 1 Xbox Elite 2 controller.
it’s also only when I am changing directions while looping, that feels super slow
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I think Jason is pretty much expected (once the lawsuit is over of course) so he wouldn’t be really shocking.
I would say it’s Alien.
it’s a super well known horror icon, but not in the slasher genre. Many people think it’s too powerful and don’t expect it or they think it’s. It possible because of license owner. Then we have the whole new genre that is sci-fi horror that would be kind of new for DbD (well Stranger Things goes in the direction, but that’s different dimension and not space and all..)
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Nothing has been confirmed. But looking at the last few PTBs the best guess is Dec 1st (3 weeks after PTB start)
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They confirmed they will update character models, right?
i really really hope those will be on the same level as Elodie, her hair is amazing!