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@Shraar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/829840#Comment_829840
dude i just met you today what do you mean you've been telling me this for 3 years lol
also how can you say "i like the lore" when you just said "bad writing? maybe"... lmao. No consistency with you. very hard to talk to.
i'm here for a creative discussion, not have someone say "it sucks, get used to it, cookies crumble" like no, let's challenge ourselves here. Don't say "im the outlier" i feel like that's arrogant lol, i'm just expressing my opinion, why you tryin to turn this into a poparity contest or something? smh. maybe your right, i feel like ti has been 3 years of arguing with a brick wall cause you are exhausting lol
Three years of the game existing, three years of the DEVS making CLEAR what WE have been saying to YOU in the last DAY. Why did you assume I meant talking for three years? You can also like bad writing, fam. Ever see "The Room"? If you keep treating my truthisms as attacks, there is no point to continuing this. Mellow out and understand that your way of viewing the story of the game isn't the same as the Devs.
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@AshleyWB said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/829829#Comment_829829
I agree with you exactly. I just think there are so many other options to explore that will feel a lot more fresh. I don't see Rins father being very interesting but having said that I don't know what he'll be like if he was in game.
I just hope it's teasing tome 2 lore rather than the next chapter. I thought teasing the next chapter would come maybe next week.
Tome 2 releases in 2 days (14th) that to me suggests the Spirit lore with her father is just an insight into the second time.
Tome 2 releases in January. Tome 1 - Level 2 releases tomorrow or Thursday. Why would they tease Tome 2 when the next chapter isn't even out yet? Not smart from a marketing stance.
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@Shraar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/829775#Comment_829775
Thanks for nothing... sorry I'm just trying to be constructively critical, try to think of what could be better instead of "yeah it sucks"... like no, don't be satisfied with that lmao. think harder.
How am I supposed to think harder when the Devs have made what I and numerous others have been telling you clear for the last three years? What do you want us to do? Write our own version of the story and just ignore whatever the Devs put out. If you don't like the fundamental lore of the game, too bad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. I like the lore. I like the eternal hellscape of the Entity. I like it and I know many, many, many others do to. Sorry to say you're the outlier, bud.
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@Shraar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/829392#Comment_829392
well that's pointless
Welcome to hell. That's the point. There is no happy ending here. Bad writing? Maybe. The Dev's goal from the start? Yep.
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@Shraar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/828316#Comment_828316
Really? You're like "we can't possibly understand the entity" and then you immediately follow it up by characterizing its behaviors and applying inductive logic that it is likely to repeat similar behaviour, and also concluding that it is evil by our standards, and that by extension it must also be a liar because lying is evil. Very "bold of you" to make so many assumptions on an inscrutable mystery box (a mystery box is a cheap trick writers use, where they keep something mysterious enough to justify anything coming out of it: the entity is everything, or nothing, in other words, it sucks and isn't compelling)
also, the carrot analogy is broken: The point of that analogy is you can see the carrot on the stick right in front of you. How on earth can you use that analogy and then also say " it sure as hell won't let Rin find out that her father is also a killer" so she can't see him? You don't make sense, and that analogy blew up instantly.
The Entity can make people see auras, who's to say she can't make people see what they desire most. Alas, there's no point arguing with you. You don't see reason and I can't make the blind see. Just know, when Rin's dad is added, you're gonna be one upset camper reading his lore.
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@Shraar said:
Fibjean I'm sorry if I offended a real person, I'm just short on patience because I really can't believe anyone is thick enough to say '"blood and revenge" is all we know of the oath that was made, and that's incredibly vague." like no, it isn't vague, I gave you the definition of revenge. She wants revenge vs. dad. That's not possible with Killer dad. And if the Entity is just a liar, well, the lore sucks and we shouldn't trust anything we here: lying is bad, mmkay? And it makes for lame stories when anything can be retconned/disregarded. No weight or consequence to the writing, setup for no payoff, it's bad writing. Sorry if you're a real person and not a troll btw, I didn't want to offend.
I'm stupefied that you actually think an Entity that abducts people, tortures them into being slaves, and throws them away like dirty tissues when they're used up would keep its word. It was an empty promise to make Rin kill for it for an eternity. If the Entity has at least two brain cells in whatever body it inhabits, it sure as hell won't let Rin find out that her father is also a killer. Call it, conflict of interests. The Entity wins and Rin will keep killing so she can eventually get the revenge. It's like putting a carrot in front of a horse you're riding. The horse wants the carrot but you want it to go forward, so you tempt it to chase it. THAT is what the Entity is doing. How straight forward do I have to put it?
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/828204#Comment_828204
You're operating on the assumption that the Entity is morally upstanding and cares about keeping promises, and not a malevolent, indifferent being that couldn't care less what its puppets want or feel as long as it gets fed. Even if that's not the case, "blood and revenge" is all we know of the oath that was made, and that's incredibly vague.
But since you're operating from such a level of intellectual superiority that you seem to be more interested in talking down to me and insulting my intelligence than actual considering my points and discussing them in good faith, I don't see this conversation going anywhere productive so I'll be ending it here.
This, this, and this. Covered it perfectly.
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@Shraar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/828180#Comment_828180
It is a game, yeah. But they don't have to write themselves into a corner by introducing her dad as a killer. That'd be a dumb move.
They wrote themselves into a corner when they introduced Ash. At this point, they can only go deeper. Bring on Papa Yama.
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@Shraar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/828002#Comment_828002
So by that logic, Rin will stop trying and they'll, what, delete her from the game? I don't think so. They can either take a dump on her established lore by adding her dad as a Killer, or, you know, do literally anything else
Lore wise, yeah, if she really refuses to kill for the Entity she won't be used by it anymore. Gameplay wise, no, she'll be in the game. Remember, you have to pull apart the story the Devs are telling and the actual game. Look at Overwatch, it's the same deal. Why is so and so fighting so and so? It's a game.
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@Shraar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/827939#Comment_827939
Is it bold? If the Entity is just BSing her, the Spirit would cease to exist. Spirit is literally a creature of pure rage, doing what she does only for vengeance. If her vengeance was eternally denied, the very thing that fuels her would no more, and she'd stop doing the Entity's bidding. She'd have no reason to. It would completely ruin her purpose. Vengeance is all she is, she isn't chasing Survivors she has no beef with for fun: It's all to get at her father. But if he was promoted to be her equal, she'd have no chance. And that would be really bad writing. And before you say "well he'd like torture her" she's already been through the worst pain imaginable, so terrible it inspired a hatred that persisted through death.
Also like I said, the Entity passed him over for Rin. What do you mean the Entity grabbed him as well?
The Devs have said Killers are isolated from each other for... reasons. If Rin's dad was added, she wouldn't know. Let's say she did though and lost her drive to kill, the Entity would chuck her aside. Have you seen that new animation, the Hallowed Blight one that came with the Rift? I'll assume you have. Remember all those gray corpses? Those are the empty husks of both killer and survivor who have been bled dry by the Entity. You're looking at it likes it is a rational creature you can reason and bargain with. It is not. It wants food and it wants hunters. It doesn't care if the food gets sad, mad, or even happy. It doesn't care if the hunters don't like each other. If Rin were to stop killing for the Entity, it would be lack a need for her and it would not sweat to find a replacement, just as it has, thousands of times before. It's not a matter of if the Entity is BSing her, it is a matter of how long will she let it.
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@Jimsalabim said:
my theory: the spirit aka Rin stole the long sword to have her ready for her big upcoming change: a bigger lunge
If only, right? (Yeah, no, I hate Spirit)
Why would the Devs drop two teaser in one day about the Spirit rework when it hasn't even been announced yet.
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@Shraar said:
Just saying before it's called one way or the other. It would be such a terrible redundant addition to the game if they added Rin's dad as KILLER.
Survivor? Yes please. Let us chase that murdering PoS and stab him a few times for what he did to his family. But if he's the Killer... Come on. Rin's lore stated he was passed over in favour of Rin, promising her revenge... so, what? Did the Entity change its mind? Did it just lie to her? How does any of this work and why am I quickly not caring? Don't take a huge dump on your lore right as soon as you start to focus on it through tomes, BHVR!!
Smh, I was honestly so hyped for the next original Killer (or even the Nun) to be revealed, but now I'm dreading it. I'm really hoping they don't add pointless Spirit 2.0 to the game, that would absolutely SUCK.
Bold of you to assume the Entity is honest.
Seriously though, why would a katana be missing if he is going to become a survivor? And if he becomes a survivor, who is gonna want a play a normal salaryman who snapped and cruelly murdered his family like it was nothing? His story probably starts after Rin's "death" and as he is trying to kill himself in a traditional method, the Entity grabs him as well.
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@LordziPL said:
New level is new chapter for: Trapper, Claudette and the Entity.
New TOME (January 2020) can be referenced for Yamaoka Family.
The Tomes are most likely going to go in chronological order to some degree. Skipping two years worth of survivors and killers just to tell Spirit's story is odd writing. Plus, the next tome is two months away. Why tease for it now when the first Tome has not even received its second level yet? The missing katana ingame is the final nail in the coffin.
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@Volfawott said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/827640#Comment_827640
I haven't watched the Evil Dead franchise with the exception of the remake
Well, you probably should check out the three films and the show when you have time but until then, yeah, Ash is a walking punching bag and the poor dude really deserves a break.
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@Volfawott said:
If you're going to do this so probably be best to split it into physical and mental
For mental I would say:
Feng Min- spiralled into depression and addiction ( We know that you definitely had a gaming addiction alcoholism maybe however I'm not sure if she's actually addicted to alcohol) because of the pressures in her life and an increasing sense of self-deprecation.
Dwight- constantly was treated like a doormat and was essentially a band and then a bit of nowhere before he was taken
Physical
Bill and David Tapp- to put it in the simplest of terms they both died in rather painful ways I don't think you can get much more extreme than that.
Honorable mentions
I don't think these guys are what I consider the most traumatized or messed up but they did have bad things happen to them.
Jane- talk show with her mother
Adam- caught in a train crash
Quentin- stalked and mentally tortured by Freddy
Steve- he knew Nancy so that's quite a lot of naggy and entitled baggage right there
Jeff- mourning the loss of his father bonus points for being forced to unintentionally abandon a doggo
How did you completely gloss over the man who has been through absolute hell and back multiple times?
Ash takes the cake for both mental AND physical.
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Well, many cosmetics refer to the Trapper as a loyal and good son. The cutscene plus lore paragraphs suggest otherwise. I'm thinking he has some form of Stockholm Syndrome but we will have to wait and see.
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I can see them repurposing Needle Claw Freddy for Blighted Freddy in the future.
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@Mc_Harty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/813587#Comment_813587
Theres an easter egg related to Dart on Steves new cosmetics.
How so? The descriptions?
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Jack Torrance.
He'll have the ability to go crazy and oneshot people.
Hm.
Just like what was leaked for the next killer. 👀
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Hopefully it gets added, it is kinda weird seeing them missing.
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I dropped Self Care for Bond four months ago and I haven't looked back.
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It's a good offmeta perk. Fun but don't expect to see it every game if you yourself are not running it.
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@SaintDenisSlasher said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/773372#Comment_773372
What about Dwights trapper T-shirt?
The Entity has a sick sense of humour too. Feng's facemask as well.
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INB4 this gets deleted because someone mentions Jack Torrance and the leaked "crazy" status.
Whoops.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/803589#Comment_803589
Eh, well, first twenty minutes has Mini-Mike and Judith. I coulda sworn that they don't even show Michael in this outfit.
About 10 minutes into the movie they do.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/803316#Comment_803316
I hope you are talking about Judith and not Mini-Mike...
I'm referring to Myers in the gown after he broke out. Dunno where your head's at.
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Do you not remember the opening 20 minutes of the movie?
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I think that he was in the void from the start of the cutscenes. The lore entries hint at this. This is just him snapping.
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I like the size of them, to be honest. They're like keychains, not huge things to stick on your belt.
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Billy was written as a racist in the first season so I dunno if the Devs would be into adding a bigot as a "hero". He died one, yeah, but he wasn't totally redeemed. Robin, despite how cool she is, is way too new to be considered over Steve and Nancy. Seriously the four candidates for a survivor without total overlap are Steve, Nancy, Joyce, and Hopper. Anyone else is either too young (the kids) or too similar to an existing character (Jonathan). Steve, the god king himself, and Nancy, a total badass, are perfect choices for the game. It's just the truth, yo.
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@Phox said:
I’m pretty sure we’re getting the day of the dead cosmetics next week so it’ll probably be the week after next.
Nah, we're getting them on Saturday and Steve/Nancy on Wednesday. Weird month this is.
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Man, I wish the gens had some pustulas or something at the least... I loved the grotesqueness of the prior event.
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I hope they just touch up Prayer Beads and maybe the audio when phasing. She doesn't need tokens or a longer recharge like Nurse.
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@Peasant said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/796974#Comment_796974
Fair enough. Wanted to make sure you weren't one of the few that saw Blighted Jake and thought he was a tunnel bandit Steve.
I wish it was Tunnel Bandit Steve lmao but hey, Jake needs some good skins.
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@Peasant said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/796690#Comment_796690
Steve Skin? You mean Jake skin?
No, I mean the Babysitter skin that comes next week.
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@Karltastisk said:
So i didnt have time to participate in the PTB so i apparently didnt get the memo, but is this suppose to be THE EVENT!?
So after all this hype because of last years amazing event coming back, this is what we get!?
I must say this is truly... truly dissapointing. Doing the same old gens and hooks bUt iT HaS a PuMpKiN oN iT is NOT an event. Did you learn nothing from the so called 3rd anniversary event? Putting stuff on gens does NOT make it an event.
Im sorry for being really disrespectfull off your hard work devs, but with all the defecation going on lately. This was the tip of the iceberg.
Atleast i wont be missing out on anything since there's nothing to miss out on...
Exactly. I was stressed about getting the serums in time and making sure I get the lore and most out of this event/archives and the rift but, at this point, I don't care. Just give me my Steve skin, Devs. Give it to me and I'll go.
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Well, this thread was a mistake. Darn.
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Big fan of Babysitter. Hopefully it gets some buffs in the future (what was the update to it?). I love the information you get, the stealth for the rescued survivor, and the sweet icon.
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EAC said if BHVR doesn't ban you they won't. Point is, mod the icons of perks, powers, addons, etcetera to your hearts content. Just don't touch anything else. There is some super cool perk and portrait packs out there!
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Hopefully the leaked schedule will still apply tomorrow. I see no reason for it not to but still, this delay has me questioning things. Nov 6 is International Babysitter Day and I sure hope it's not delayed a week. 😎
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@LordGlint said:
Thats one reason I like Freddy. Theres really no map hes weak on.
Same, it's one of my favorite reasons to play the Fredster.
"Temple? Okay, I can make it work."
"Haddonfield? Alright, yeah, I can do this."
"Chapel/Game? Oh yeah, this'll do just fine."
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Thanks, Devs! Had my faith in ya tested but I stood strong with ya!
Babysitter Steve hype!
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Balance, simple as that.
I'd love an alternative End Game Colapse with some F13 style brawling between Survivors and Killers but I sure as hell don't expect everyone to start carrying shivs and heavy sticks into trials simply because it wouldn't be fun for Killers.
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As an Ash Vs Evil Dead fan, I have an answer. Ash, being Ash, screwed up a cantation and accidentally summoned the Entity/accidentally created a portal into the realm of the Entity. Every survivor has their strength that they came in with but every killer is injected with some Entity roid rage. They're unkillable because the Entity made it that way. If this wasn't the case, Ash, Steve, David, and Bill would all beat up Legion, steal their weapons, and then go after everyone else. Ash is still the Chosen One, the question is, will he be the Chosen One for this realm or the next?
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Considering the nature of the devs these days, I doubt we'll get another free chater let alone free perks. The goofy perks will get released but they'll get released with characters as actual "serious" perks. A la, Camaraderie, Mindbreaker, and Buckle Up.
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@MathiaStef said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789723#Comment_789723
People are already turning on the devs because of this delay
And you want the entire community to join those who have already turned against them?
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@MisterCremaster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/786431#Comment_786431
What build is this? I can't get a build on her that isn't rubbish.
Thana, Dying Light, Ruin, and Corrupt
Add Ons I use are Purp Emetic and the Red Ashes (these are optional).
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@MathiaStef said:
Now these are two completely different things but I just put them into one thing.
Now first off would I ever be plausible for The Teacher to be added into the game you know that scrapped killer? I just feel it would be cool to have them in.
Now the second thing is I feel BHVR should push back the update just because people are kind of being rude about it I mean come on people you are getting a lot of stuff in this update and a Halloween event for free if it gets pushed back a bit so what? Grow up a bit
If you want this community to turn on the devs faster than a pack of starving wolves on a wounded deer, then sure, lets delay the update because a few people are meanie weenies. If Peanits said that they were holding the update hostage another week due to behavioral issues, there would be boycotts and riots on the forums and on gaming platforms.
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I'm enjoying Plague a lot, especially with her "What is gen speed?" build. For survivor, I'm sticking to my guns: Steve and Ash. Steve will probably be all I play survivor wise once his Babysitter outfit drops.
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@PalletOrWhat said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/98098/steves-meh-perks-at-best-so-why-tunnel-them
That's really a thing? I play Steve myself and I haven't experienced such rudeness^^ I mean sometimes I get tunneled too, but not because I am Steve. Just because the killer prefers to tunnel all survivors.
Purple and Red Rank player here and yeah, I can relate, haven't been tunneled very much other than when going against a killer that just tunnels in general.