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@pizzavessel15 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634754#Comment_3634754
i want them to just flat out remove the license from bhvr. i would also encourage other license holders do the same if bhvr starts doing this to them. licensed killers should NOT be treated like this and if they are treated like this then bhvr does not deserve that license.
I get where you are coming from but I don’t want to lose her entirely.
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@jonifire said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634723#Comment_3634723
Giving condemned a cooldown would be fine if she had global condemned still and the other change makes no sense like the explanation to nerf it.
The lock in: supports tunneling!?
How is it supposed to do that? It doesn‘t help you to tunnel someone for the condemned lock in-> she has no chase power and she didn’t ‘t get the condemned increased just by tunneling.
On top of that she can’t see how many stacks they have, plus she has to hook them, if she can catch them with her loud lullaby, no chase power, or anti-loop ability.
And then they want to mention tunneling after creating a hook mechanic designed around her, condemn, but only to it?!?!
Is it hard to count how many stacks of condemn a person has no but it’s hard to keep up with everything at all times, everybody makes mistakes.
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@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634506#Comment_3634506
No cooldown teleportation promoted spamming teleport mindlessly with no decision making or thought process. The lock condemn stack promoted tunneling survivor off-hook and slugging people next to TV's to finish the 7 stacks of condemn on the "Locked Condemn" survivor.
These were grossly problematic designs in PTB Sadako. All the change are justified.
You will find here, that very few if anyone will agree to what you just said. These changes are awful. Survivors once again will get to do whatever they want without consequence.
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I wish I had something positive to say I was very excited for this update. Everything for the most part was heading in the right direction.
There are definitely some changes they need to make to fix this update before it goes live, unfortunately I don’t believe that’s going to happen. It’ll be a few more weeks before the patch up stuff.
I believe they have good intentions, I just wish they listen to feedback a little bit more. I know they do pay attention to our feedback, but sometimes it feels like it’s overlooked.
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@GeneralV said:
So, the January 2024 Developer Update has dropped today, and with it came changes to Hillbilly and Sadako which were not included on the PTB.
And long story short? While Hillbilly was done extremely right, Sadako was done extremely wrong.
Even before the PTB was available I was already pretty happy with the direction they wanted to go with Sadako. You can read more about that here, if you want to:
And the PTB gave me a lot of hope, because reverting a killer back to their old power while improving it in important aspects is EXACTLY what should be done to Freddy. It is even what I, and several other players, have suggested for him.
But for some reason Sadako is getting nerfed, even when her mains were pretty happy with her state during the PTB. And I don't understand why this happened, especially when there were several pieces of feedback available, none of which demanding a nerf.
This wasn't supposed to happen. Both Hillbilly mains and Onryo mains were happy and things should have stayed that way.
However, the topic of this thread is that Freddy is set for a change, probably around the later half of this year. And if the Sadako's nerf doesn't get reverted before the update drops I'll be concerned for Freddy.
When Freddy's turn comes, look at Sadako when making the change. But look at Hillbilly when sending it to live.
Well said my friend, I stand by you!
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@radiantHero23 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634588#Comment_3634588
We need heads thinking fast right now.
Put you suggestions here. I link up community managers now. Maybe they will listen, where the PTB failed.
Its so sad, i even have a badge on my profile that states that my post on PTB got read by the devs.
Suggestions;
Bring back passive condemn for tapes so survivors have something to worry about. It’s too easy for them.
Drop the cooldown to 7 seconds for condemn BUT the TV sadako comes out of you get a stack. (Old Sadako)
Newspaper OR Mirror - Basekit.
Fix the following Addons;
Sea-soaked cloth and Rickety pinwheel. Either merge them into 1 addon OR don’t punish sadako for teleporting to the tv making it useless.
telephone - increase to 8.5 meters. 7 is too short.
distorted photo-Not useful due to a survivor having to witness her to function.
iri videotape-Not useful. Bring back old Iri video tape or don’t turn off condemn since there’s a cooldown now.
clump of hair? Why? She’s invisible in power. Why is she still invisible at the same distance, when she is manifested, as she is de manifested. Clump of hair either needs to be increased or put into her base kit. There’s a lullaby and a visual effect heartbeat anyways.
Im tired of sounding like a broken record. Thank you for listening…maybe… but please. 🙏🏼
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@GeneralV said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634536#Comment_3634536
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634504#Comment_3634504
I'm really sorry, friends. This shouldn't have happened.
Thank you my friend :( 💕
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These changes would be perfect. I could settle for this!
Tapes need to bring passive condemning back with these 10 second global cooldown changes. This is a must. We need that added pressure.
(I’d like a few other things added for quality of life on her but if this is what I get I’ll deal)
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634518#Comment_3634518
I will just put Knock Out + Sloppy and i will slug everyone build on her.
But probably this will bother pretty fast because it's boring. But that's only viable way to play her. What i am supposed to do with her? I can't build stacks to make pressure on survivors. I have no chase power. Holding tapes have no risk, so survivor will just take tape and then they will sit on gen without fear.
Like seriously BHVR , what you want us to do with this killer?
Yup. Not to mention there’s no passive build up for condemn anymore. We’re worse off than square 1.
I will slug everyone. I don’t care. That’s sadly my best option now. Why force me to use ring drawing? Let’s address the other addons that need the help. We mentioned this over and over
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@ChaosWam said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634564#Comment_3634564
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634566#Comment_3634566
And one line later in the PTB really grinds my gears here:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/VGYQU7YWGULN/capture-png.png
Then what was the point of the PTB and everyone's feedback, BHVR?
it shouldn’t be difficult for them to predict and determine. It shouldn’t be difficult at all. With all the feedback, suggestions, and assistance they had on the public test server.
This actually should be a very easy decision. But instead it has to be extremely complicated.
before she was ever changed to begin with, when she was just in her original state, as an onyro main all I wanted was the other TVs to give off condemn. Everything else stays the same if they just buffed her power I wasn’t worried about anything else like her non exsistent anti looping and chase powers.
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@ChaosWam said:
There's no defending this at all.
I was already hoping she wouldn't receive the Freddy treatment before PTB, was pretty stoked about the changes in the PTB, never saw anyone abuse the power like they suggest because survivors can easily take tapes with NO downside, and they still manage to give her the Freddy treatment.
Heck, that power cooldown fits CURRENT Sadako's global condemned better than PTB Sadako, and we didn't get that???
Exactly! If you’re adding a cooldown that should be applying now! On global! Not her changes in the ptb. Bhvr please. 🙏🏼💕
don’t do this.
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I will too. Anything for Sadako. She is my one true main.
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@radiantHero23 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634527#Comment_3634527
Please tell me this is not real.
I’m so sorry but it is :(
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@radiantHero23 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634518#Comment_3634518
Sadly that seems to be the chase. I dont know anymore. 2 stacks for each hook IS NOT ENOUGH INCENTIVE.
Im so sad right now......
I see history repeating itself......
I too my friend. :(
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@radiantHero23 said:
I understand where the nerfs are coming from, but some of them are absolutely unjustified.
The lock on should have stayed as it was. It was the only thing making chases and hooks an incentive. Getting an early kill via hooking is not that common because Sadakos chase is not good.
The cooldown on condemned is bad. Thats it. Just bad.
WE NEEDED ADDON CHANGES! WHERE ARE THEY???
I agree.
The addons that really needed to be changed were left untouched.
PTB/Forums feedback was it ignored.
Condemn is shot again coupled with her no chase and anti loop potential = being bullied all over again.
Survivors are free to do whatever because they can grab a tape, 10 second cooldown, plus see auras of TVs at any given moment.
I’ll be slugging again that’s for sure. I’m not hooking a soul.
They want me to play healthier? Fine, no problem, but make healthy changes first not this.
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@radiantHero23 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634489#Comment_3634489
I dont know what is going on. We were on such a good path up until now. She was in a really good spot. Now shes a bit too lack luster.
I will still play her a lot. I will still find a way to make her really good. But this is really demoralizing not gonna lie.
I agree 💯 :(
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@GeneralV said:
@MechWarrior3 Your thoughts, my friend?
I 💯 agree my friend. I’m very disappointed.
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@GeneralV said:
@MechWarrior3 Your thoughts, my friend?
I’m very disappointed, now truly. I was extremely excited for this first live update of the year. I am very disappointed in the direction they took.
Behavior had such a Win on this until now. Do I understand the early tunnel/early kill aspect yes, but this was way too much of the nerf.
I took so much time creating feedback here for them after playing her for almost 2000 hours and then this. :(
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@Paternalpark said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3633723#Comment_3633723
Didn't killers just get basekit shadowborn?
Didn’t survivors just get anti face camping?
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@GeneralV said:
I agree with what you said for Billy, but overall I'm really happy with his changes.
Hopefully they will actually nerf Blight's add-ons, as it was supposed to be. Those two Iri add-ons cannot reach live servers.
And please cancel the STBFL change. That perk doesn't need a nerf.
facts 💯 on this!
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My humble opinion, I’m not too interested in this type of killer being in the game.
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@GeneralV said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3632892#Comment_3632892
It would have been way more fun to go against, especially because we don't get stealth killers that often.
I agree! ☝️
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@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3632883#Comment_3632883
...I was literally the person you replied to :(
I believe I was referencing NEW perks. FTP and Buckle Up are 3 and 4 years old, respectively.
That’s fair! I get distorted on here but I promise I mean no harm. I’m just trying to help. I’m a really level headed individual in all honesty.
I have lots of ideas and thoughts but soler people on here get so hostile. :(
As if it’s just their game. It’s my game toooooooo lol 💕
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@GeneralV said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3632468#Comment_3632468
It's on, then :)
And yes, Hillbilly's and Onryo's recent changes gave me a lot of hope for Freddy. The developers deciding to revert her rework while improving her old kit was a massive jump in the right direction, and doing the same thing to Freddy would be absolutely perfect.
He will rise again eventually, and it will be a glorious day. It is something I've been waiting for since July of 2019.
💯 agree as an onyro main ❤️
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@GeneralV said:
I'm still convinced Xeno should have been a stealth killer, because that would be far better than a generic anti-loop attack that is, in fact, extremely unfun to go against.
It’s very unfun to go against. His potential for stealth would be awesome.
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Makes sense, and I would agree with that 💯.
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I don’t play nemesis often but here and there. I would agree on this completely. Flashlight stuns are annoying for sure. You can already lure them away or kill them with a pallet.
As far as artist goes though, you use to be able to burn the crows away. Same with hags traps. I don’t think it’s too much to use lockers but I see your point. It’s isn’t necessary for survivors to have that.
Having more than 1 counter though now that I think about could be a bit much.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3632866#Comment_3632866
And we Killers have PR PGTW what's your point?
If you connected my reply to whom I was addressing you would see my point clearly.
They stated survivors only had 1 meta perk to use all year but forgot to mention all the other meta perks as if they don’t exists. My point being is meta perks are gutted on both sides. I don’t agree with however MFT getting the nerf it did. It wasn’t even that drastic. Most people that complained about it were trickster mains running 4.4 but since that buff it’s irrelevant
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
It has been months since this perk nerfed. But it's still one of the most popular perks. Ofcourse it's not number 1 anymore but still so much use.
So my question is that: How often you are seeing Dead Hard in your games? And how you are feeling about it?
I see it often. :)
I feel like it’s good in its current state. However, the only change I would make is you get to start with dead hard. (So a total of 3 deadhards)
I think that would help get slightly more value out of it.
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I hope for sadako they address some of her addons still.
Telephone, Distorted Photo need to be addressed. For purple addons they’re not great at all. Better off using green or yellow.
Rickety Pinwheel and Seasoaked cloth punish sadako for using them when she teleports.
The visual heart beat when she is demanifested is annoying. Survivors know you’re coming a mile away.
People seem concerned about tapes and think they should still build up passively? I’m okay with either or. Guess we will see.
Overall though! I love that we got old sadako back and I love her rework.
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@GeneralV said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3631988#Comment_3631988
Thank you so much, my friend!
As I've said, this is a matter I feel strongly about. I've wanted to my killer back ever since July of 2019 and I sincerely appreciate everyone who has shown support to this cause <3
Absolutely! We are gonna keep helping you get there until it happens! Old Freddy must come BACK! Please 🙏🏼 respectfully behavior. ❤️
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@Huge_Bush said:
I only care about a Freddy Rework because I want @GeneralV to be happy.
I second this! ❤️
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10/10. Give us old Freddy back please. 🙏🏼
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@GeneralV said:
That's why I'm here. If it will give me the killer I loved back, there is no greater priority.
💯 support you!
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@blithes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3630702#Comment_3630702
i know its not, its just this guy is saying that giving up on hook because you don't like the killer and lobby dodging are essentially the same thing when they are completely different. for the most part killers have a general idea what they're walking into, often they can see the hours survs have, along with the ping, items, etc. survivors don't know what killer they are going against, their prestige, or their ping. they don't get to lobby shop based on prestige level or ping, lobby dodging has literally 0 consequences other than prolonged wait time for both ends, where giving up on hook has greater consequences, ie. down a team mate, depip, no bp, etc. which while they are not BIG consequences w massive impact, it's still more impactful than a extra min wait time bc a killer is dodging a p100 survivor.
I do 💯 understand where you are coming from and I do agree. Some of those things probably should be looked at if they haven’t already
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Add those filters like you said but let me spend 500k all at once. I don’t wanna go through level by level. I’d love to filter what I want and what I don’t want.
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@blithes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3629527#Comment_3629527
you get penalised for that thru bloodpoint loss/depipping etc, you don't get penalised for lobby dodging
Meh, not too big of an impact. Honestly. If you lose pips you don’t have to worry about going down in the rank for example iri4 to gold1 etc.
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Respectfully I don’t agree with this idea.
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@Chiky said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3630296#Comment_3630296
yeah, a killer main for sure
🤷🏼♂️ I don’t care if you don’t believe me. I’m just speaking facts. That’s how you know when the truth slaps perfectly when all someone can say is “ohhhh yeah, killer main, doubt it…”
Cause that’s not overused it anything in this community. 🤣
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Always have been always will be. 🤷🏼♂️
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Buckle up and for the people is not an issue. Why do people always have to have something to complain about. MFT was never an issue either.
Im 💯 a killer main as a P100 onyro. Come on people. Let the survivors have something.
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@Toaster427 said:
Patch after patch, same old boring perk mechanics, or perks that literally nobody is gonna use.
This upcoming patch especially is just awful, it's like they spent a total of 5 min slapping ideas up on a whiteboard and then called it day.
Will survivors ever get anything exciting? It's a survivor only release DLC and the most exciting thing is the killer changes? What gives? The last exciting chapter for survivors was Mikaela...that's how long it's been..
Just really starting to wonder if BHVR is just completely focused on killers and nothing else in this game.
Like you all do know it takes 4 survivors to play a match right? Mayne toss the majority of your players a bone once in a while? Is that too much to ask?
I disagree. I’m excited for the new survivor and his new perks! I’m also excited for Onyro since I main her.
Survivors have tons of perks to choose from. This is an all survivor dlc of Mr Wake and you’re still not happy because the perks aren’t exciting aka OP? COH certainly was.
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@ays12151 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3629236#Comment_3629236
I didn't mention strong Survivors with items and meta perks. Just good Survivors and average Bubba it's usually 3 hooks.
I disagree respectfully.
He’s is in a balanced state.
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@ays12151 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3628270#Comment_3628270
If you play against better players he is not. At least they should fix his acceleration on the Chainsaw. Half of his addons are useless and his base kit isn't strong.
That can be said for all killers though. When you go against better players there’s always something that can buffed to help you in that situation.
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Skull merchants drones are far from weak. My personal opinion.
They hinder you, injury you, put you in deep wound, give the broken status affect, grant undetectable and potential haste as well as intel if claw trap is given. Up to 6 effects around there, not including addons.
Her drones are in a good spot in my humble opinion.
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@Astel said:
It is ANTI FACE-CAMPING, not anti camp feature, which means it is made to stop face camping only. Thus, it doesn't need bigger radius.
Agreed 💯
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@LordGlint said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3628319#Comment_3628319
And by that logic, why isn't Hag triggering her own traps. Do the traps KNOW who is walking past them? Why does Clowns gas not slow down Clown?
Clowns a fat alcoholic that breathes in his own gases for living so naturally he’s immune to it. Why is it so hard not to walk in your own trap?? I’m a killer main and play trapper. I don’t have this issue.
there’s bigger fish to fry than this. 🤷🏼♂️
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It’s a physical bear trap. What happens when someone walks into it?
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Why change the screams? What’s the reasoning behind it?